If that's the case, that he worked for Marvel despite loathing them more than anything else, then he wouldn't have dumped Stanton for 'degeneracy', would he? Not while he was prepared to take on Marvel work.
Next that dude from Hawaii who got doxed who everyone loved until everyone hated (in a nifty @FROG 1984 Big Brother type unpersoning) who seems to have shuffled off this mortal coil will come back. Fucked if I can even remember his name at this point.
Edwin? I’m pretty sure he just left comics Twitter and works for the Hawaii republican party now. He seemed like a nice guy so I’m glad he stopped basing his life around gay internet drama.
Except he was the one who most avoided the gay internet drama, and who most embodied the ideals of CG. At least for that brief twenty minute period between 'CG is about changing the comic industry' and 'CG is Ethan's factory farm of paypigs and shit-flinging monkeys', when CG's lofty ideals were 'CG is about creating an alternate, truly egalitarian comic industry'.
Edwin was the guy who genuinely tried to help and platform smaller comics projects, when his peers were piling into the goldrush with shitty books about their daughter or creepy librarians. He tried to smooth over some of that gay internet drama for the sake of good relations and semi-professionalism. I even remember when he called for calm and giving WC the benefit of the doubt, when news of their gay ops started to emerge. He went a little off the rails when it was all confirmed, but I think much of that was the shock and continued disappointment that this artistic community of 'high-T, alpha males' turned out to be an autistic community of sycophants and petty middle-school girls.
Well since it's been taken too far, I guess I'll have to set the record straight.
Comicsgate News Update: The Crimes of Smug Web Comics Edition
Several days ago I doxed Clint Stoker in this thread to prove a point to @Fathead that coming onto the farms and pearl clutching over doxing is a stupid thing to do. My motive for doing so was nothing more than proving a point to Donal, rather than any intentional malice towards Clint. To be perfectly honest, I like many of you completely forgot Clint even existed until Donal started dropping his name to get under @TheCosmicWarrior's skin. My point was simple, Donal's attempt to virtue signal that JDA attempted/threatened to dox Sweetcast on the the farms of all places was reckless and stupid. Keep such rhetoric on twitter, reddit and youtube comment sections where it belongs instead of New Zealands most notorious doxing site. Kiwifarms isn't some Comicsgate hugbox where crying about who threatened to dox who will win you any good boy points.
Since then this has escalated into something that I could honestly never have anticipated. After the doxing, Clint Stoker reached out to Thomas Roilup of the SWC brothers and asked if he was Smug Frieza and why he doxed him.
Clearly from the response of Thomas "I was listening to Ozzy records backwards and it told me to do it sorry, plus I have debilitating Tourettes where I do things to people who are trying to live in peace (double if they are gay) so I'm not at fault" is both humorous and sarcastic. It's not an answer that should be taken seriously or literally by anyone.
The theories about me being Thomas Roilup began months ago in this thread and others after I had shared several of their videos.
I enjoy seeing you sperg out once I mentioned swc. That lets me know you're either one of them, or the cucks that go to their discord server. I know you watch these threads and claim the farms are easily swayed because they wouldn't do your bidding in going after evs and cg.
At lest I'm not a faggot Anglo-saxton incel who likes calling little girls whores in order to get at their fathers. Couldn't be bothered to not include the child in this like a man, huh Thomas? Although knowing how much you jerk off to kiddie porn, it must've been difficult to stop thinking of kids.
You do realize I'm not Thomas Roilup right? It's a running joke from the CG thread after several users thought I was him, then I ran with it. Only dumb low IQ joggers and inbred retarded whites could be so stupid not to follow the joke.
Great detective work, I dug into your post history and exposed you and your big brained rebuttal is to link "Smug" to the SWC brothers anime character. Despite stating many times in various threads I don't consider myself to be anti-CG or pro-CG, just a casual observer of the trash-fire yet you assume I'm Thomas Roilup.
I skimmed through my brother's and I... I mean.. those dastardly SWC dudes stream and found an interesting tid bit. The one who isn't Thomas Roilup doesn't even lurk the Farms and Thomas himself doesn't have an account here. They get linked to specific posts via their discord and check them out if the information is worthwhile.
My brother and I.. I mean, those SWC brothers just finished live-streaming with Doug TenNapel, DA Talks and some chick called Karat. They go over the Donal Delay cuck comics and actually gave kiwifarms a thank you for uncovering the information.
It was that last quote above that TUG first seized upon like the inept moron he is believing he had discovered the perfect "gotcha" on the SWC brothers by assuming they were me.
Oh no guys, my secret identity is out. TUG doxed me, its ogre. This will be my last post on kiwifarms, it was fun while it lasted. View attachment 1393646
He was incorrect then and he's incorrect now, in fact a simple search through this thread or my post history would reveal that I haven't always agreed with or praised the SWC brothers at all.
His from Shitty Web Comics, SWC revived. Idiots like him and the Comic Book Hut are the main reason why CG has never really faced any solid resistance. His videos normally consist of him and a co-host talking over each other, while claiming that they knew everything about everything before anyone else. God help CG if someone charismatic, articulate and objective begins to shine a light on their seedy underbelly, because most of the anti-CG crowd are just as plain old retarded.
Then of course there's the time I chastised @NasserRabadi13 for not posting Donal's DMs in this thread after he was done streaming with DA Talks and the SWC brothers about said DMs. If I really was Thomas Roilup or someone associated with the SWC brothers, wouldn't I already have had those DMs? Why would I need to ask Nasser to post them here when presumably I already had them and could just do it myself?
Posting them here so they're on the official kiwi record now. @NasserRabadi13 I don't know what deal you have with DA Talks and the SWC brothers but once they are finished with DMs remember to upload them here for us kiwi's to analyse and dissect.
Then there's the screenshots I took from their discord when I was lurking a few months ago and noticed them calling me a retarded, gay nigger for liking Dragonball Z.
Then of course there was the time that they reached out to me via an intermediary to see if @Mister Dongs and myself would join them for a stream discussing Comicsgate. Mister Dongs wasn't interested and I obviously didn't want my voice out there due to various hijinks I get up to on Kiwifarms, such as doxing speds in this very thread. So I sent two trolls known only as Mr Dickard and Glenn to impersonate myself and Mister Dongs as a playful prank. We assumed the stream would eventually turn hostile and since Dickard and Glenn are quite capable of handling themselves in IBS shit fights, we would get one hell of a show. The stream however never turned hostile and Dick and Glenn ended up actually enjoying the stream with the SWC brothers which is still available on bitchute here.
Of course I confessed all this previously in the post below.
Well it looks like the cat is out of the bag now, time to confess.
Several weeks ago @Mister Dongs and I were approached for a cordial livestream with the SWC brothers to discuss Comicsgate and the drama surrounding it. Mister Dongs and I were both apprehensive about appearing on a stream and putting our voices out there, however I felt the opportunity was too good to just dismiss entirely.
I instead arranged for a pair of imposters to represent us, which produced what was actually quite an entertaining stream, arguably one of the SWC brothers best.
Questions still lingered though about whether or not we were in fact the guests that appeared on the above livestream, so myself, Glenn and Mr Dickard (the imposters) arranged a confessional stream with the youtuber DA Talks. This confessional also happened to coincide with some embarrassing information that I and several of the Weeb Wars kiwis had discovered about Dean's brother, Crow, an "I Stand With Vic" Weeb Wars youtuber.
Either way I'd like to thank Thomas Roilup and Patriarchalape for the invitation and for being such fair sports about it all. I actually did appreciate the offer from them to share their platform with myself and Dongs, as opposed to the likes of Liam Gray who banned me from his youtube chat. View attachment 1490209
For anyone who enjoyed the show put on by Glenn and Dickard, they're starting their own youtube channel which will cover everything from Comicsgate, Weeb Wars, retards on the internet, along with news and current events in a podcast format.
What would be the point of Thomas Roilup organizing such an event which potentially could have turned hostile and deliberately prank yourself?
If there is any doubt allow me to present an excerpt from our conversation on discord regarding the scheduling of the stream.
Both in the Smug Frieza Mister Dongs stream and in this separate video here the SWC brothers disavow doxing and state specifically that they personally "are not in favor of doxing."
Considering I've doxed numerous individuals from Comicsgate, Anti-Comicsgate, Warcampaign and SJW Comics Journalists I consider all factions in this tard war to be fair game. My dox of G.A Lungaro was in fact one of Preston Poulter's associates who by default would have been on amicable terms with the SWC brothers, so why would they dox a friend and ally of Preston's?
Despite everything I've shared above that is easily available in this thread and others TUG, Liam Gray and Comicsgate have engaged in deception and outright lying in trying to present the SWC brothers as myself.
He followed these tweets up with a livestream with Sweetcast that was archived on Kurono's channel.
Which was efapped and expanded upon by Liam Gray.
Which produced a reaction from the Comic Book Hut.
Before TUG did a follow up short video recently.
In the follow up video posted above TUG directly claims the SWC brothers are the ones whom doxed Clint Stoker yet then claims that Clint was doxed because "muhessjaydubyas" in comic books and plugs Clint's latest crowdfunding project FATL. TUG is clearly lying as the SWC brothers may be many things but they certainly aren't SJWs. Clearly this is all a ruse to rile up CG in typical TUG grifting fashion to use "SWC doxing Clint Stoker" as a narrative to sell more copies of the book. Which I had previous said looks like an improvement on his past projects.
Magical underpants wearer and possible potato head impersonator Clint Stoker, aka Sweetcast, has launched his third Indiegogo project a science fiction story called F.A.T.L. Following on from the mild success of Downcast and it's sequel Downcast: Rize and Fall, Stoker has raised almost 30K from over 500 backers in the space of twenty four hours, an impressive sum when compared to the earnings of his previous two books. The story follows Flynn, an alien exterminator, as he responds to a distress call from a posh planet full of sycophants. The book features some appealing artwork and is a notable improvement both visually and thematically on the otherwise bland concept of Downfall, which had been previously described by critics as "okay."
While an improvement on the previous offerings from Stoker, this reporter remains skeptical of the $25USD price tag with shipping for a 52 page graphic novel, especially since Stoker was reported to be publishing Downfall through Alterna at a much cheaper price.
Amazingly resident Joker Spirit devotee @9th legion centurion 002 managed to pick up on all this himself and produce an interesting video detailing recent events.
I would have posted all of this sooner, exonerating the SWC brothers, but watching TUG and Co flail around like exceptional detectives trying to crack the case of Smug Web Comics was just glorious to behold.
TLDR
If you managed to last this long reading this sworn affidavit in defense of the SWC brothers on the charges of doxing allow me to sum things up.
1. I am not Thomas nor Patrick Roilup.
2. Thomas and Patrick Roilup are not Smug Freiza (sp)
3. TUG is either a complete and utter retard or a disingenuous, opportunistic liar or both.
I would have posted all of this sooner, exonerating the SWC brothers, but watching TUG and Co flail around like exceptional detectives trying to crack the case of Smug Web Comics was just glorious to behold.
Both. Definitely both. Just from this, TUG is a near-perfect poster child for dunning-kruger. He imagines he sees the strings held by the puppet masters and even that he can pull on one or two of them himself, but he's too moronic to see that the strings attach to his own flabby limbs.
Quite frankly, seeing TUG swerve back into CG to push this narrative with his shit intel has been hilarious, I almost wished no one ever stepped in to correct him. Either ways, I don't think it'll be helpful. TUG already got what he wanted which was screenshots he could use for this narrative, and nigga's gonna grift with making these videos of "DOXED!" in his titles now. He's already done it with another one of his Amber Heard videos.
What I found even more funny was that TUG did the exact same shit Renfamous did after we doxed the I Freaking Love Comics crew: go on to detail the horrors of being doxed and all the harm it could bring to a freshly doxed person.
Next that dude from Hawaii who got doxed who everyone loved until everyone hated (in a nifty @FROG 1984 Big Brother type unpersoning) who seems to have shuffled off this mortal coil will come back. Fucked if I can even remember his name at this point.
Edwin had the gull to stand up for his christian principles in front of the Gaylord on his last stream with EVS and call him out on his Warcampaign / Dread ilk of comicsgate scam and schemes, before any in CG would even dare say it in his face, but too few remember this, saying he really disliked the treatment he was giving to other indie creators that are not willing part of CG, and former OG CG creators EVS has shunned for their general christian stances / values, then EVS in his typical fashion of not tolerating anyone slightly deviating from his theatrics and his pre planned show where he wants everyone to abide by his "loyalty" bullshit and never counter him,) just sent him in the shadowrealm of his sweaty underboob flaps to silence him forever. (And send his armies of Warcampaign cock suckers to harass him on any and every of his streams he would do on the topic after this incident.)
Cg is a trainwreck but sometimes when people in it stand their ground and tell it how it is, they are allways crushed.
Note on this "Loyalty" perspective of EVS tho :
This is not even what you can call "loyalty", nor friendship, you don't ask people to just nod and fake laugh to any and every of your jokes, go along with everything and never have a different opinion from your own, not only you are obviously not a friend for doing this and going along with the scam but this ends up feeling and looking as fake and inorganic / forced as a relationship as it gets for anyone noticing, and i've noticed , and a lot of other persons believing a bit in it in the beginning, started to notice early enough, been watching the streams since day one after the Dan Slott / Mark Waid interviews, my stop and doubt line begun at Vox Day dick sucking then not long after the crucifixion of Nerkish, then the spiraling down into gatekeeping and The constant tired, repetitive, unfunny jokes everyone in the stream had to force laugh to, nobody ever countering and criticizing EVS on anything, or not even LIFTING the slightest doubt and questionning about anything. That's how you end up understanding how fake the whole culture war grift is. (Good job on banning all conservatives / christians from the "show" and "movement" and good job allways being against other real conservative indie creators that might have success outside of your gatekeeping, doxxing ring of anyone experiencing it, and being rightfully unhappy with your "movement" for what it's lying to be about. )
And yeah, see, i did the stupid thing of backing the first cyberfrog comicsgate book too.
Judging it by it's fruits, Comicsgate isn't even a conservative platform, nor an issue pushing platform, which it claimed to be from the beginning "fighting teh kultur whooore" repeated and repeated this bullshit lie again and again, not only they aren't even trying to fight anything, but are only in it for their own profit and nothing else, that's the lie, they pushed any conservative value away, it as always been a personality cult ousting away and deplatforming real conservative values or real competition to keep the whole lion share of the crowdfunding space, that they are also destroying any trust left in.
Quite frankly, seeing TUG swerve back into CG to push this narrative with his shit intel has been hilarious, I almost wished no one ever stepped in to correct him. Either ways, I don't think it'll be helpful. TUG already got what he wanted which was screenshots he could use for this narrative, and nigga's gonna grift with making these videos of "DOXED!" in his titles now. He's already done it with another one of his Amber Heard videos.
What I found even more funny was that TUG did the exact same shit Renfamous did after we doxed the I Freaking Love Comics crew: go on to detail the horrors of being doxed and all the harm it could bring to you to a freshly doxed person.
Never heard back from Nick so I guess he doesn't want to cover it.
@Fathead shipped the 5th; we should hold back a small dollar amount to replace any potential lost books, and split the rest.
Sorry if you guys are tired of the subject but Donal blocked me and ignores my emails so this is the only place to talk to him/only place he bothers replying at.
Now the real hysterical conspiracy a-log chronicling you've come to expect from yours truly:
1981: Stan Lee goes gay for Hollywood.
1981: The AIDS epidemic begins.
1991: Disney has its first Gay Day.
1992: Northstar is the first outed gay superhero.
1993: Jurassic Park's main means of bring dinos back to life is using hermaphroditic frog DNA.
1994: The Air Force Wright Laboratory proposes the use of non-lethal chemical warfare to effectively make the enemy turn gay. This would inspire one of the greatest AJ memes of all time.
1994: Cyberfrog #1 is published on June 1st.
1994: Disney's famous subliminal "SEX" animation in The Lion King complete with ridiculous animated lion foreplay.
1995: Disney produces the film "Powder" directed by a convicted pedophile who had only 2 years prior completed his parole.
1995: Disney's Toy Story as directed by sex pest John "Lotso" Lasseter (what plays in Pixar's Love Lounge stays in Pixar's Love Lounge) and starring Yandex Pedolord Hanx.
2000: First X-men movie directed by a pedo comes out with the gayest Magneto ever, the worst villain in Toad and the dumbest Halle Berry meme of all time. Forecasts a gay Iceman.
2001: EVS' "Sex" Men issue #118 is published in November. Written by occultist and all-round esoteric weirdo Grant Morrison.
2009: Disney buys Marvel
2010: One of Disney's promo images for Tangled uses Rapunzel's hair to spell sex across Flynn's body, the same sacrificial hero who gives Rapunzel a feminist haircut in order to save her.
2012: DisMarv Comics goes completely SJW gay and tries to forecast a new age of cinematic gayness post-Thanos snap in the years to come.
2015: Disney begins a process to turn Star Wars pointless and retroactively gay and SJW.
2016: Pepe the Frog meme magic becomes weaponized. Will it ever be replicated? Donald Trump is proud to be called "the gayest President ever!"
2017: EVS restarts his channel, experiences meteoric rise once his wagon is hitched to YBZ & anti-DisMarv entertainment.
2018: Cyberfrog: Blood Honey is successfully crowdfunded. EVS disavows Comicsgate. EVS reavows Comicsgate. Stan Lee dies.
2019: Wall-to-wall Sciververse gayops and purgings. EVS disavows Warcampaign. EVS reavows Warcampaign.
2020: Everything is SJW, everything is frog, everything is gay, everything is infected. Congratulations, now don't cry or you'll give me a virus.
Feel free to add to this wondrous series of events.
Now the real hysterical conspiracy a-log chronicling you've come to expect from yours truly:
1981: Stan Lee goes gay for Hollywood.
1981: The AIDS epidemic begins.
1991: Disney has its first Gay Day.
1992: Northstar is the first outed gay superhero.
1993: Jurassic Park's main means of bring dinos back to life is using hermaphroditic frog DNA.
1994: The Air Force Wright Laboratory proposes the use of non-lethal chemical warfare to effectively make the enemy turn gay. This would inspire one of the greatest AJ memes of all time.
1994: Cyberfrog #1 is published on June 1st.
1994: Disney's famous subliminal "SEX" animation in The Lion King complete with ridiculous animated lion foreplay.
1995: Disney produces the film "Powder" directed by a convicted pedophile who had only 2 years prior completed his parole.
1995: Disney's Toy Story as directed by sex pest John "Lotso" Lasseter (what plays in Pixar's Love Lounge stays in Pixar's Love Lounge) and starring Yandex Pedolord Hanx.
2000: First X-men movie directed by a pedo comes out with the gayest Magneto ever, the worst villain in Toad and the dumbest Halle Berry meme of all time. Forecasts a gay Iceman.
2001: EVS' "Sex" Men issue #118 is published in November. Written by occultist and all-round esoteric weirdo Grant Morrison.
2009: Disney buys Marvel
2010: One of Disney's promo images for Tangled uses Rapunzel's hair to spell sex across Flynn's body, the same sacrificial hero who gives Rapunzel a feminist haircut in order to save her.
2012: DisMarv Comics goes completely SJW gay and tries to forecast a new age of cinematic gayness post-Thanos snap in the years to come.
2015: Disney begins a process to turn Star Wars pointless and retroactively gay and SJW.
2016: Pepe the Frog meme magic becomes weaponized. Will it ever be replicated? Donald Trump is proud to be called "the gayest President ever!"
2017: EVS restarts his channel, experiences meteoric rise once his wagon is hitched to YBZ & anti-DisMarv entertainment.
2018: Cyberfrog: Blood Honey is successfully crowdfunded. EVS disavows Comicsgate. EVS reavows Comicsgate. Stan Lee dies.
2019: Wall-to-wall Sciververse gayops and purgings. EVS disavows Warcampaign. EVS reavows Warcampaign.
2020: Everything is SJW, everything is frog, everything is gay, everything is infected. Congratulations, now don't cry or you'll give me a virus.
Feel free to add to this wondrous series of events.
2015: "What do you think tap water is? It's a gay bomb, baby. And I'm not saying people didn't naturally have homosexual feelings. I'm not even getting into it, quite frankly. I mean, give me a break. Do you think I'm like, oh, shocked by it, so I'm up here bashing it because I don't like gay people? I don't like 'em putting chemicals in the water that turn the freakin' frogs gay! Do you understand that? I'm sick of being social engineered, it's not funny!" - Alex Jones
Meh, I don't think it's quite at that level yet. This guy does come off as a former Warcampaigner who is still hasn't figured out how to relate to the world without his Ro-colored glasses. He says "there's something about you" when there's a pic of Donal right up front. Brutas was supposed to be Nasser's last foray into comics at least for the foreseeable future anyway. At best this is a postscript. There's always a chance Nasser could try to stretch this out into another opportunity, but he hasn't quite exceeded Donal in the Grift or in the Strange Life Decisions category. Cool pic though!
They're really good with the highlights being the Marvel Heroes Reborn saga. Interesting lore. I previously reported that Chuck Dixon was doing a series of videos, solid stuff. Dixon got asked about his getting credit on Liefeld's Cap America 1. Liefeld doesn't respect writers, I guess. Apparently Chuck sent him ideas, notes, reference materials for tanks and shit. He says he took one look and threw it in the garbage. Dixon didn't want his name on it and Rob still put it on there.
That's the thing about the podcasts. They're kindof him aping the new move to livestream that other creators are doing. But they're also a chance for him to try to reshape his legacy.
Summary, though I can't recommend those Marvel reborn eps enough, Liefeld has a number of people who remember him fondly. That includes Reborn. The consensus of the Elite in comics has been that Heroes Reborn was an epic boondoggle that didn't do well and was canned. Liefeld intersperses some juicy behind the scenes drama such as Jim Lee's power play for Marvel EIC and Jeph Loeb wooing him with an alternative.
Basically his Avengers #1 is the best selling Avengers #1 of all time. All the heroes reborn titles sold well, even by the standards of the time ie the end of the speculator bubble. But Rob undermines his point by revealing the ridiculous compensation he and Jim Lee demanded in addition, including a signing bonus.
So, in summation. Rob is wrong that Heroes Reborn is a success, because they paid him and Jim Lee a ridiculous sum of money to sell millions of copies like he brags about doing in '92. He didn't and has been unable to do so since because X-Force didn't sell millions of copies to readers but to speculators who were leaving to baseball cards or whatever. He's right in that the underlying Heroes Reborn material is solid, really most of it is better than the stuff that preceded it, not a high bar.
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