Inactive Nick Bate / Nickalaus B. Stoutzenberger (Thread 2: THE RECKONING)

[Sonic Hoo]

Guys I found Nick's cell.

Spoiler

 

[Dudeofteenage]

I'm a bit late to the party on this one, but NobleGrayHorse, have you considered using Donotlink so you can share Lancasteronline's information without giving them traffic?

 

[Meowthkip]

Well, I haven't been in this thread in a while. I guess I didn't miss a whole lot, though.

did i ever say one time he made cookies and came in the batter then fed it to his family? because that happened. he doesn't have any concept of boundaries in relation to his bodily functions, again.

Did he say why he did it?


Oh hey, look at what I found!

Oh, for Lancaster to find out the crimes of her most loathsome son...

 

[Duke Nukem]

there was a series of tweets that went with that saying how he came in the batter ~_~
when can i rate things "horrifying"?

Do you have any archives of these tweets? Because that's pretty fucking...eh, can't think of a word strong enough. Let's just say I sat through his jackoff with shit video unscathed.

And the best part is that he allegedly fed them to his family???

 

[Mrs Paul]

And now she's probably had to have drank a few thousand bottles of beer in order to clear up that traumatic memory.

Even though you're joking, the disturbing thing is that Nick's video probably isn't even close to the worst thing she's seen. Considering what they're investigating, they've probably had to view child porn, torture videos, animal mutilations, etc.

 

[Yawning Bulbasaur]

Even though you're joking, the disturbing thing is that Nick's video probably isn't even close to the worst thing she's seen. Considering what they're investigating, they've probably had to view child porn, torture videos, animal mutilations, etc.

I wonder if Nick (aside from CP obviously) is also into that kind of stuff?

 

[pbls]

I wonder if Nick (aside from CP obviously) is also into that kind of stuff?

I don't think so? He's said that he doesn't find violence of any sort sexually appealing (aside from, obviously, throwing himself on children).

 

[TheUltimatePickle]

I don't think so? He's said that he doesn't find violence of any sort sexually appealing (aside from, obviously, throwing himself on children).

Are you sure about that? Pretty sure he had a song about assraping children, then dissembowling and forcefeeding them their own intestines.

Goddamn, I feel like I need a towel for just typing that.

 

[sugoi-chan]

Are you sure about that? Pretty sure he had a song about assraping children, then dissembowling and forcefeeding them their own intestines.

Goddamn, I feel like I need a towel for just typing that.

He was also an Edge Lord Supreme, so I bet that was a good part of that song's origin.

 

[pbls]

Are you sure about that? Pretty sure he had a song about assraping children, then dissembowling and forcefeeding them their own intestines.

Goddamn, I feel like I need a towel for just typing that.

He was under the impression that was funny. He never thought it was erotic, though. I was one of the first people he sent that song to when it was finished, and we had a lot of... long talks about his lyrics.

I was looking through my old email and I found a bunch of emails Nick sent me in 2013.

Some context: This was a year after Nick found out Anna lost her virginity. That's what our first conversation is about. Around this time he also showed interest in a girl at his group therapy meetings. There are also some emails in there that I didn't have my responses to, but I thought should be in here anyway. They aren't as cringe-worthy as some of the texts Maddi uploaded, but they do show his lack of awareness pretty well.

If you think I was too nice in any of these, you'd be correct. I was trying a... positive reinforcement approach.

 

[sugoi-chan]

I was looking through my old email and I found a bunch of emails Nick sent me in 2013.

Some context: This was a year after Nick found out Anna lost her virginity. That's what our first conversation is about. Around this time he also showed interest in a girl at his group therapy meetings. There are also some emails in there that I didn't have my responses to, but I thought should be in here anyway. They aren't as cringe-worthy as some of the texts Maddi uploaded, but they do show his lack of awareness pretty well.

If you think I was too nice in any of these, you'd be correct. I was trying a... positive reinforcement approach.

That's...a lot of patience on your part to deal with that. Him talking about getting close to that girl would be cute in an "aww, how awkward" kinda way if it weren't for all the "I need to have anal sex constantly." crap.

 

[Dudeofteenage]

That's...a lot of patience on your part to deal with that. Him talking about getting close to that girl would be cute in an "aww, how awkward" kinda way if it weren't for all the "I need to have anal sex constantly." crap.

I dunno, still pretty creepy. I mean, even leaving aside all of Nick's insanity and deviancy, therapy sessions and support groups are really terrible places to hit on people.

 

[HickoryDickory]

I dunno, still pretty creepy. I mean, even leaving aside all of Nick's insanity and deviancy, therapy sessions and support groups are really terrible places to hit on people.

It's highly discouraged, but the only things they could do would be to pull him in for "a talk", arrange for a different group, transfer or drop him. (Depending on his therapist or OT)

I'm guessing he never had an OT since they do home wellness checks to make sure the client/patient is taking care of themselves. If he were an inpatient in my area, he would have to prove that he could cook for himself and do basic hygiene and cleaning before considering letting him in housing.

 

[BrokenEntity]

List of things to do:

Clean the kitchen
Throw up thinking about Nick Bate
Build a robot
Throw up lunch thinking about Nick Bate
Play a game
Throw up dinner thinking about Nick Bate
Take a bath
Go and see a doctor.

 

[Curt Sibling]

(I know this seems spergtastic, but I know you gentlefolk must feel the same...)

The more I learn about Bates, the more I struggle not to be engulfed with fury at his rottenness.
It's hard to maintain a mood of detachment when looking at those smug faces he pulls.

Apologies, just had to say it!

 

[LordCustos3]

Nick's defense wasn't that he didn't molest her that one time because he remembers there being feces, but rather that the entire story recounted in his confession in the chat log couldn't be true because one of the details in his confession is untrue. He says in the video that if he were going to molest someone, then he would do anal no matter what, so therefore if he said he didn't do anal, then the whole story must have been a fabrication and he never molested her like he originally said he had. However, the only thing his poopsturbation video does is suggest that if he did molest her, then he would have done so regardless of the presence of feces; therefore, if there was feces on her, then he probably didn't lie about molesting her, but he might have lied about not molesting her.

So... Nick filmed himself playing with poop and had it released on the Internet and accomplished literally nothing as a result, except potentially incriminating himself or otherwise strengthening the prosecution.

I know this'll seem far-fetched.....but this reminds me of OJ Simpson.
What Sick Nick did is kinda like one of the dumb things that OJ Simpson did: when the police came to inform him of Nicole Brown's death, his immediate reaction wasn't "Oh, no. That's horrible."; his reaction was "Go in and check my guns. You'll see that haven't been shot."
Apparently, the policemen felt the way he said it was "rehearsed", like he was expecting someone to tell him about Nicole's death, and wanted to artificially put the idea into a questioners head that he "didn't know how she died, so he couldn't have possibly been the killer"; but it would've worked better if he had waited for the proper moment to deploy that, rather than blurting it out the first instant of the conversation.
Sooooooo, it was a half-clever/half-stupid idea that was clumsily implemented.
Sick Nick is trying (badly) to imply that he "didn't stick his peenor into his sisters vagoo"......not realizing that no-one said anything about any vagoo. Anything going on in her vag would've been only known to Amber and her attacker. This who video was him saying "Check my wang, you'll see it doesn't have vaginal juice on it....only shit."
Sooooooo, it was a 100% stupid idea that was catastrophically implemented.
Nick might as well starting writing that book called

if I Did It....in her pooper.​

By the way, how did that video get out to the public? I thought he just sent it to the detective.

I betcha Nick was so proud of that video, he's the one who posted it everywhere!

I dunno, still pretty creepy. I mean, even leaving aside all of Nick's insanity and deviancy, therapy sessions and support groups are really terrible places to hit on people.

Too true. For isn't one of the smartest rules of dating is "Don't Stick Your Dick into Crazy."
Hitting on someone in Sick Nick's therapy session guarantees you'll get someone like this....

Spoiler

PLAY MISTY FOR ME

....and that's if you're lucky.

 

[Dudeofteenage]

Too true. For isn't one of the smartest rules of dating is "Don't Stick Your Dick into Crazy."
Hitting on someone in a therapy session guarantees you'll get someone like this....

Wow, that's some pretty judgemental shit you've got going on there, buddy. Lots of people end up in therapy or group counseling. They're not all undateable nutjobs. Many of them are perfectly together people who are just dealing with grief, addiction, stress.

The 'don't hit on people in group therapy' maxim is there to protect the hittee, not the hitter. People go to group therapy to have a safe space to work through issues, not to find dates. It's hard to be open in an environment where you think people are sizing you up for sexytimes.

 

[LordCustos3]

Wow, that's some pretty judgemental shit you've got going on there, buddy. Lots of people end up in therapy or group counseling. They're not all undateable nutjobs. Many of them are perfectly together people who are just dealing with grief, addiction, stress.

The 'don't hit on people in group therapy' maxim is there to protect the hittee, not the hitter. People go to group therapy to have a safe space to work through issues, not to find dates. It's hard to be open in an environment where you think people are sizing you up for sexytimes.

Cool your jets, DudeofTeenage. Context is important.
We're not talking about all the average joe q neurotic-level therapy sessions attended by average joe q neurotics here....were talking about whatever ninth-circle-of-hell group therapy would be peopled by people as fucked up as Sick Nick.
I seriously doubt that "slightly glum guy with a sad but treatable issue" would be in the same group as "deranged, shit-smeared orangutan who wants to rape his sister"; I doubt either would benefit from being in the same group. For the same reason "girl with bulemia" and "Hannibal Lector" would be in different groups.
I'm not saying that anyone dealing with grief, addiction and stress are bad people. Far from it. But I am saying there are different groups, and Sick Nick is not in THOSE therapy sessions.....he's in the hardcore intense one down the hall for scatmunchers and pedorapists, where the door is locked and everyone is wearing tracker bracelets on their ankles.
I'm saying that if YOU -- through some bizarre fluke of fate -- were at a group therapy session for people as messed up as Sick Nick, I really would think twice about dating that Amanda Plummer-esque girl who keeps twitching and eating her hair.
Are we on the same wavelength now?

 

[sugoi-chan]

Cool your jets, DudeofTeenage. Context is important.
We're not talking about all the average joe q neurotic-level therapy sessions attended by average joe q neurotics here....were talking about whatever ninth-circle-of-hell group therapy for people like Sick Nick.
I seriously doubt that "slightly glum guy with a sad but treatable issue" would be in the same group as "deranged, shit-smeared orangutan who wants to rape his sister"; I doubt either would benefit from being in the same group.
I'm saying if YOU were -- through some bizarre fluke of fate -- at a group therapy session for people as messed up as Sick Nick, I really would think twice about dating that Amanda Plummer-esque girl who keeps twitching and eating her hair.
Are we on the same wavelength now?

I don't think he was in group therapy because of his sexual proclivities. I think he was in it to get over his social anxiety and inability to function as an adult ("if my kitchen was on fire, I'd text my aunt").

 

[AnOminous]

I don't think he was in group therapy because of his sexual proclivities. I think he was in it to get over his social anxiety and inability to function as an adult ("if my kitchen was on fire, I'd text my aunt").

I don't know exactly what prompted his treatment, but I doubt it was something so benign. He seems to have been forced into it. He had been involuntary institutionalized for a spell at the age of 15, and apparently some sort of "case manager" was responsible for his later psych eval (pastebin) where that quote about the kitchen came from.

From that.

1. Nick is an individual who is suffering from several depressive symptoms that appear to be minimally responsive to medication and therapy at this time. In addition, Nick appears to have significant problems with cognitive distortions and his orientation to reality is tenuous. It is likely that his social isolation, which allows him to spend most of his day fantasizing, is contributing to his overall impairment. While Nick has not acted on any of his impulses, based on the level of specific violent details involved in his fantasies and his grossly impaired judgment, it is strongly recommended that Nick be referred to a partial hospitalization program where he can be supervised and treated on a daily basis. This type of environment will also be able to provide him with a safe environment with structure to work on decreasing his anxiety related to interpersonal contact. If Nick is unwilling to attend a partial hospitalization program, his status should be monitored frequently by his intensive case manager to determine if inpatient treatment may be necessary.

2. With regard to his violent sexual fantasies that involve both adults and minors, it is recommended that a comprehensive psycho-sexual evaluation be conducted as soon as possible. It is recommended that a residential treatment center be considered due to the violent nature of his thoughts.

3. With regard to his housing situation, Nick has questioned his ability to live independently. Presently, his judgment and decision making abilities are impaired and it is questionable whether he would be able to function appropriately if faced with an emergency in his home. Based on this, it is recommended that a residential program be considered.

Anyone know exactly why he was sent for this psychiatric evaluation by some kind of case manager?