Trashfire Adam Kovic & Ryan Haywood (The Dead Pixel / Koko / Pikovic, and James Ryan Haywoood / Iron Ryan / The Mad King / Vagabond) - Rooster Teeth associates who've sent horrifying nudes behind their families' backs in what looks like a gay catfish

[Muted]

Do you think their fanbase is braindead enough to let them get away with not addressing everything that's happened?

That's not a rhetorical question, I'm asking that sincerely. Even now, after all this shit that's happened in barely over a fucking WEEK, are RT fans really at the point of letting them get away with never addressing this? Because that would be fucking insane.

I'm honestly anticipating another Geoff-almost-crying-on-camera video. They always seem to pull him out for damage control, for some reason - I guess he's just got a sort of down homey charisma and empathetic way of speaking that the others can't really match. I can't imagine Matt or Gus even attempting something like this, Burnie already got the hell out of dodge (and clearly with good reason), and I don't think anyone would accept a discussion of this from anyone but Achievement Hunter (and maybe Meg due to her connection to Ryan?). I have no clue how they as a company are gonna come back from this. This is like the killing blow after years and years of taking a pummeling from one scandal after another.

I do think the fans will let this go if it means keeping the rest of AH going honestly. In their minds the twitter roasting would be enough. The girls themselves don't seem to want to pursue legal action and they're the ones with most of the power right now. They still love RT. Legal action would garner mainstream attention, it would force RT to make a statement confirming or denying the accusations against their former employee.

 

[nerd bullier]

Do you think their fanbase is braindead enough to let them get away with not addressing everything that's happened?

That's not a rhetorical question, I'm asking that sincerely. Even now, after all this shit that's happened in barely over a fucking WEEK, are RT fans really at the point of letting them get away with never addressing this? Because that would be fucking insane.

they've yet to suffer a fuck up of this magnitude so i'm betting they will eventually address this. they have to.
judging from the subreddit and tumblr tags, fans are 50/50 on "i don't want to discuss this because it makes me feel bad" and "fuck ryan haywood" and the latter half seem more determined to get something done about this. i'm guessing it'll be addressed by friday, unless they want a RT fanbase riot.

 

[redfoxxx]

He was talking to the anonymous girl as recently as August. He was talking to Leigh as recently as last month. How much longer would he have continued doing this?

If none of this was ever leaked, I strongly believe he would still be chatting up these girls and probably looking for new virgins to traumatise. He's not sorry for what he's done, he's sorry that he got caught.

 

[TheClappening]

As someone who doesn't really give a shit about Rooster Teeth, this whole saga has been interesting and horrifying in equal measure. I guess this is what non weebs felt when they first learned of the whole Vic thing.

I'd say that bitch from the Dallas Observer could cover it, but we all know she only did so because Lemoine solicited her help after Vic sued.

Minor nitpick, but it's the Dallas Morning News.

 

[s0mbra]

It's a bit off topic but it reminds me of the nonscandal Markiplier had a few years back, where he opened up a public snapchat, got a few nudes sent to him and flirted back, and then apparently realized how stupid he was being when one of the girls made mention of the power imbalance and deleted his account. Thus, when the story came out it fizzled into nothing. Getting personal on your public sm accounts as even an e-celeb is real dumb.

Not to derail but WUT?
I was just thinking earlier if any other bif youtube celebrity went down I'd want it to be him.

 

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

At the speed in which the accusers come out into the public I'm sure we hit the tenth accuser by mid November.

 

[Dumb beast]

It's amazing - I think this is a consequence of the youtube generation. I'm older and started performing in bands in my teens. My first big gig touring with a semi-national famous act was when I was 17 (and way before the internet was a thing!) the first day the bandleader sat me down and told me outright, "You don't fuck anyone who comes to the shows. I find out you fucked anyone at a show and you're fired. A chick who likes the band will drag 4 of her friends to a show because that's what chicks do. If you fuck a fan and blow her off so now she hates us, that's 5 chicks not coming to a show buying tickets and merch. You just cost me money so you'll be fired". It was like a light bulb went off in my head - I had never looked at music before as a business but it made total sense. And in the few years I was with the band I did see the leader fire people for fucking fans so I knew he was serious.

Fast forward to the 00s and you have people who become youtube famous. People who, if the internet had never existed would have never become famous. People who didn't "earn" their fame and didn't have the benefit of coming up under the tutelage of people who were already famous. People, who by all accounts, would barely get laid if they had never become famous. So you have people who have no idea how to handle fame, can't deal with having all this crazy pussy thrown at them, and have no idea how to act. Ergo, you get these crazy scandals one after another that are eerily alike; awkward soyboy bangs weird, very young, unstable fangirls who now claim victimhood.

Bad for them. Entertaining for us.

Thankfully because I came up in a time where you had to work your way up and I learned, I have never fucked a chick at any show. I restrict my dating and fuckbuddies to a small circle of friends I came up with and recommendations from within that group.

Fun fact: A friend of mine was in Liza Minnelli's band for many years (wow - that statement alone makes me sound old!) and he had told me that she routinely hired and paid for hookers for the band after the shows in every city. Because that's how much she doesn't want her band fucking people who come to her shows.

With all due respect, while these people are famous because of something that takes no effort, it doesn't mean there's no effort put into it.
Rooster Teeth took over 10 years to go from being funny dudes doing a machinima (which being legit funny on the internet is hard enough) to these YT rock stars, you could say they had the advantage of being the first ones but still, fame isn't measured in your achievements but in the amount of people who tried the same path and failed.
And pretty much every Funhaus member is quite technically skilled, not on Hollywood industry levels, but they're not Channel Awesome incompetent and are leagues above any rando let's player tries to do with their computer, even the friend simulator bit takes some improv acting skills and chemistry not everybody has.

This is dead on. A lot of these guys are nerdy and introverted, or not that physically attractive, or are just otherwise not going to get that sort of attention without some kind of name/face recognition. I imagine that it's a sort of vindication for these guys - the same sorts of girls who wouldn't fuck them when they were in high school are suddenly all over them, and they get drunk on that feeling. Ryan jumped headfirst into his "role" as Mad King Ryan - the dangerous and powerful man who's also a suave casanova with a swarm of eager women at his beck and call - and you can tell he really loved acting like that, whether it was for a joke or for more "serious" stuff. I think he started to sincerely believe that he was invincible and could do whatever - and whoever - he wanted with impunity, which is why he took no practical precautions to keep his nose clear and relied heavily on manipulation.

It's honestly embarrassing to me. How can someone think so highly of themselves, to the point of it being almost masturbatory, and yet not have common fucking sense? If you're going to cheat and fuck a billion fans, you'd better have more plausible deniability than "no way that bitch is crazy!", cause that's not gonna fly forever.

Still applies though.

 

[beautiful person]

This is also bad for the kids. Holy shit, when they're old enough to understand what he's done... It might legitimately be best to give them Daddy 2.0. Or even be a single mom.

The best thing that could happen to the kids would be for Ryan to choke on his own spit and die right now. A hard, random severance that would force an immediate change of life away from him without having to linger on the current filth that is leading to a life without him anyway.

Also, the general consensus seems to be that Ryan sucks in bed, whether he just doesn't possess the skills or simply doesn't give a shit about his partners pleasure is up in the air Yeah, no he's just a selfish prick.

I don't think it's just a selfishness thing. I think he gets off on making it as painful and unpleasureable as possible and them coming back for more in spite of it. Like 'lol, look what I can get these girls to let me do to them,' power kind of thing.

 

[RisingPhoenix]

"Had a connection" my ass. If he really was looking for actual companionship, he was shit at it. Maybe these logs are cherrypicked, but in all cases so far. He basically goes from small talk to "oh man you need a good daddy dicking bby" and gets stuck on that every time. There's an occasional "how you doin'" at best, but the "caring" persona these girls mention is seems like a front that he manages only till he knows there's chance of sex on the horizon. Heck all the "charity" is based around getting these women sex toys, getting them to places where he can fuck em, or hoping that giving them some of that "hush money" keeps lips sealed.

If he cared about his kids, he wouldn't be risking his health with constant sex with women he hardly knows, or spending nights where he could of been with them with some one nighter. There's no way he didn't miss something important during all those affairs. He said those things, made those decisions, and yeah - your kids will have to live with knowing you are a fuckup once they google search daddys name.

 

[Captain Manning]

Do you think their fanbase is braindead enough to let them get away with not addressing everything that's happened?

Yes and no.

I think the fanbase is rattled to some extent, but they're not in revolt. Yet. Mainly because they have to go off the beaten path to get this information. Otherwise, new season of faux-anime RWBY next month! Can't miss that!

Notably, Miles Luna was comforting (gag) Monica on Twitter after the Vic thing broke in February of last year.



Now? He hasn't Tweeted a FUCKING THING since October 6th. What happened on that date? Oh, yeah. I bet anything AT&T Warner has told him to shut the fuck up. This is way more serious than the Vic thing, which is why they're in siege mode right now. Ryan was an employee (not an independent contractor) with a very tight relationship with RT.

Corporate Orders > Virtue Signaling

No, the pressure will have to be exerted externally. That's why I mentioned Meg could be useful. She's not on the payroll anymore. Will she? I dunno. She'd have some explaining to do concerning her relationship with Ryan.

Minor nitpick, but it's the Dallas Morning News.

Oh, sorry. I confused the local rag nobody gives a shit about with the other local rag nobody gives a shit about. I'll go ahead and flog myself now.

 

[Actually Christian Bale]

And then there's that take.

 

[nerd bullier]

If he cared about his kids, he wouldn't be risking his health with constant sex with women he hardly knows, or spending nights where he could of been with them with some one nighter. There's no way he didn't miss something important during all those affairs. He said those things, made those decisions, and yeah - your kids will have to live with knowing you are a fuckup once they google search daddys name.

man, imagine his kids turning 14-16, getting into some new game that all the other kids are into and being like "hey, my dad used to play video games like these for a living. i should look up some videos of him to tease him about." and finding all of.. this. they'd be better off not having a dad.

 

[northstar747]

So to the people that study cows and cowology

I dont know the structure of RT or really who these fuckers are but what if Ryan.

Deletes his social media.

Changes his phone number and gets a flip phone.

I dont know if he ll devorce his wife or they seperate but lets say he ether moves out or goes and gets job stocking shelves or something.


what happens then

 

[Most Dumbest Bitch]

Now? He hasn't Tweeted a FUCKING THING since October 6th. What happened on that date? Oh, yeah. I bet anything AT&T Warner has told him to shut the fuck up. This is way more serious than the Vic thing, which is why they're in siege mode right now. Ryan was an employee (not an independent contractor) with a very tight relationship with RT.

Corporate Orders > Virtue Signaling

No, the pressure will have to be exerted externally. That's why I mentioned Meg could be useful. She's not on the payroll anymore. Will she? I dunno. She'd have some explaining to do concerning her relationship with Ryan.

I'm in full agreement, but I think the chances of Meg sticking her neck out to do the right thing are pretty low. She strikes me as incredibly shallow and self-serving, and as I already mentioned, I'm highly suspicious of her involvement in all this. How plausible is it that Ryan managed to keep the truth from every single person in his life, both work and family? Not very. Someone would have to pick up on something down the line, as he clearly wasn't taking care to cover his tracks beyond calling the girls crazy. So then, who do we know for sure has been around him quite often, both on-camera and off, and has a close enough relationship that he's probably let something slip to them? Meg, transparently.

Again, I don't want to completely say she 100% knows something, or otherwise throw her under the bus, but she could certainly be doing and saying more as a close friend of Ryan's, and isn't. Her denouncing him publicly would carry a lot of weight for many people. I don't necessarily want to say we're entitled to that as an "audience," but given how many women - girls, really - have been hurt down the line because of him... well, maybe we're within our rights to be a little pushy.

So to the people that study cows and cowology

I dont know the structure of RT or really who these fuckers are but what if Ryan.

Deletes his social media.

Changes his phone number and gets a flip phone.

I dont know if he ll devorce his wife or they seperate but lets say he ether moves out or goes and gets job stocking shelves or something.


what happens then

Assuming he doesn't get his ass raked through the coals in court and get thrown in jail? He'll probably have to go into hiding for a while, a few months at the least, before he can turn tail and start working for some behind the scenes company. He may have to change his name to be hired anyway, since all of this information is absolutely going to come up on a basic Google search of "Ryan Haywood." And if I was him, I'd probably move, just to be safe. He's not from Texas anyway.

 

[Allanon]

Not to derail but WUT?
I was just thinking earlier if any other bif youtube celebrity went down I'd want it to be him.

Don't get too excited, it's pretty much a nonstory. Back during his Drunk Minecraft series timeframe, when he wasn't nearly as big a youtuber and when he was very publicly single, he briefly opened a snapchat for anyone to contact him on. Some girls (presumably adult, as no one accused him of otherwise ) did, and at least one sent him snaps of herself topless, to which he responded "Nice " and had a brief conversation with her, wherein she implied he sent provocative but non-lewd images of himself in return, like him being topless. He only had his Snapchat for a few months before he shut it down. If you dig through his archives you'll find him mention it briefly, saying he got weird/creepy messages on it and now doesn't have one. At some point during one of the times Tumblr got angry at him for making fun of how he looked when he put makeup on himself badly, a girl came out and accused him of using his power imbalance to try to get sex from fans on his snapchat....

But she never presented any evidence, and her story amounted to 'I shared him unsolicited nudes, he responded positively the first time but then got distracted and didn't give me more attention so I kept sending him more nudes and felt bad about myself for trying to get his attention with nudes and he should have known better than to flirt back with someone who was a fan of his' he expressly denied this, she never provided proof, and the story died there.

It's probably worth noting that Mark's fans are psychopaths. He's had to move house once or twice when his address was found because he instantly got stalkers coming to his place, they real-person yaoiship him with Jacksepticeye to the point where both of them went from finding it funny to extremely creepy, and he had to hide his RL girlfriend for a year+ because when people first found her and suspected she was his girlfriend she got a bunch of crazy fangirl stalkers who wanted her dead and tried to harass her off the internet for the crime of dating Markiplier and being neither them nor Jacksepticeye....so him having creepy/weird snaps enough to discourage him from having an account as he claims is more plausible than not

 

[Captain Manning]

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And then there's that take.

Cancer.

ITT, Kiwi Farms is #KickRyan. Ignorant redditors are #ISWR.

2020 is a bugfuck crazy year, and we still got almost three months to go.

 

[RisingPhoenix]

So to the people that study cows and cowology

I dont know the structure of RT or really who these fuckers are but what if Ryan.

Deletes his social media.

Changes his phone number and gets a flip phone.

I dont know if he ll devorce his wife or they seperate but lets say he ether moves out or goes and gets job stocking shelves or something.


what happens then

Well technically the unbalanced power aspect is gone unless he tries to tap the fanbase again somehow. But that will only last as long as he's relevant. I'm sure there are some dim fangirls still trying to hit him up atm now they think the missus is serving papers.

Otherwise, stripped of the whole youtuber thing, he's just another sad divorced guy who makes the checkout girls feel creeped out cuz he wasn't sold to them as hot relatable dad. Guys like that will still find someone to bone them, but almost always one and done affairs.

 

[Allanon]

Cancer.

ITT, Kiwi Farms is #KickRyan. Ignorant redditors are #ISWR.

2020 is a bugfuck crazy year, and we still got almost three months to go.

I mean they're totally right....if the accusers weren't literally posting proof. I'm holding off saying Ryan's definitely pedo at this point because that's yet to be proven....but boy howdy will it not be a surprise if it turns out to be so with the kind of evidence that's come out so far. The problem with culture today is that these kinds of accusations would cancel Ryan even without the proof for sure, and that's absolutely awful because things like Vic happen, or worse, Alec. But in Ryan's case, nope, he done did it.

 

[Ghostse]

LA? He’s extra-fucked now. Not only do you have the “regular” CP charges and possibly the sex trafficking stuff regarding state lines, let’s finally throw in statutory as well!

Also, as fuck, but didn't see if this got answered:
Its only going to run afoul of white slavery laws if he transported jailbait across state lines, not if HE crossed them.

A new challenger enters the arena nothing physical but lots of predatory behaviour.

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He definitely has a type....

 

[Crescent Fresh]

Also, as fuck, but didn't see if this got answered:
Its only going to run afoul of white slavery laws if he transported jailbait across state lines, not if HE crossed them.

He definitely has a type....

With how much he’s been paying people for transport, that’s still absolutely not out of the question.