UK Envoy to WHO Calls for End to Global COVID-19 Lockdowns: They're "Doubling" World Poverty - But remember, "the science is settled"!


The debate over how to respond to Covid-19, which shows no signs of disappearing anytime soon, continues to rage the world over. In the UK, there is an increasingly loud chorus of scientists and experts claiming that strict social distancing measures are doing more harm than good. The UK’s envoy to the World Health Organisation (WHO) has called for governments across the globe to cease national lockdown measures because of the socio-economic downturns they are producing. In an interview with The Spectator’s Andrew Neil, Dr David Nabarro slammed what he called the “ghastly global catastrophe” being caused by the use of lockdowns as “the primary means of controlling this virus.” He said that lockdowns should only be utilised to “buy you time to reorganise, regroup rebalance your resources” and to “protect your health workers."

The scientist offered up the grim prophecy that if the lockdowns continue on the current trajectory then there will be a “doubling” in the levels of world poverty and child malnutrition by 2021. Lockdowns make “poor people an awful lot poorer” he said. “I want to say it again: We in the World Health Organisation do not advocate lockdowns as a primary means of controlling this virus…Look what's happening to poverty levels - it seems we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. We may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition because children are not getting meals at school and their parents, in poor families, are not able to afford it,” he added.

Dr Nabarro, who previously worked as a Special Representative of the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, elaborated to The Daily Mail that too often the options that governments can take to combat the spread of Covid-19 are presented as a “stark choice” between lockdown or a Covid-19 rampage resulting from no lockdown. He said that he has now “become more and more convinced” that lockdowns should only be used as “a last resort.” “This is because of the way they impact on people’s livelihoods, mental health, non-Covid illnesses, access to education and more.” He has called upon governments to “develop better systems” by “work[ing] together and learn[ing] from each other” to beat the virus.

“If clusters and outbreaks do appear, they should be slowed and then suppressed promptly and that is why localised and targeted movement restrictions, implemented jointly by local actors and national authorities, will be needed from time to time. They should be kept as time-limited as possible.”
Dr Nabarro’s comments come hot on the heels of a letter which was written by Oxford University’s Dr Sunetra Gupta and has been signed by more than 6,500 scientists which warns that lockdowns and stringent social distancing measures are having “damaging physical and mental health impacts.”
The scientists claim that most of the population is not at risk of dying if they catch Covid-19 and that the majority should therefore be Abel to continue their lives as normal while the vulnerable are given extra protection.

“Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal,' the scientists say… keeping these [lockdown] measures in place until a vaccine is available will cause irreparable damage, with the underprivileged disproportionately harmed,” the letter says. Globally, there are around 36 million confirmed cases of Covid-19, with over 1 million deaths. In the UK, there are approximately 576 thousand confirmed cases, with 42,679 deaths so far.
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Since when did authoritarians worry about the economy instead of their agenda? Too bad the damage has already been done.
 
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And? That's with pretty strict measures in place. There's been 210k deaths in the US alone and it's not even close to being over or even at the peak yet.

Is it really that hard to wear a mask?
210,000 deaths of 328,000,000 people, or 0.04%, I'm not sure why this has to be habitually explained to you.

Highly contagious and extremely deadly with no vaccine or heard immunity and it killed 0.04% of the population?

It's not about the masks, it's about the Democrats utterly destroying the middle class over something that's killed 0.04% of the population, 40% of which are people in nursing homes.

I'm thankful every day that i have a job that's open and the flexibility to work from home or the office but I feel for every single person who hasn't been to work in six months because Orange Man Bad.
 
210,000 deaths of 328,000,000 people, or 0.04%, I'm not sure why this has to be habitually explained to you.

Highly contagious and extremely deadly with no vaccine or heard immunity and it killed 0.04% of the population?

It's not about the masks, it's about the Democrats utterly destroying the middle class over something that's killed 0.04% of the population, 40% of which are people in nursing homes.

I'm thankful every day that i have a job that's open and the flexibility to work from home or the office but I feel for every single person who hasn't been to work in six months because Orange Man Bad.

You don't compare death rate by using the whole population. You do it by people who came down with it. Not all the population has been exposed to it yet.

This is a stupid argument even by A&N standards.

Is it really that hard to wear a mask when you go to Walmart?
 
It's too early to tell:
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Source: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/season/faq-flu-season-2020-2021.htm (october update)
Imho the casualties are the result of poor crisis management and incompetence to set adapted guidelines for people who are more likely to be sensitive to that virus.

The reason it is not appropriate to advance claims on how dangerous the virus is compared to others is because there has never been comparative studies made with other coronavirus/influenza epidemic. There has never been such a massive scale of testing/quarantine of a pandemic in the past. With some exceptions like Swineflu or H1N1; flues and coronavirus diseases are treated by generalist as a mild sickness. In this instance there is a lot more data/patient testing to quantify the impact of the virus.
 
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I get the caution, I really do, but you can't hide from this. I really think this social distancing is fucking us up more than people realise; we're social creatures, we need to interact with other people or else we'll go crazy.
 
Masks are to protect you from spreading it to others (as I've told you a billion times by now).
Surgical masks do not do this, they exist for the purpose of preventing sweat and bacteria from dripping from a surgeon's face into a patient's innards. They do not stop the spread of viruses, the only thing that could do that is a gas mask or a rebreather, of which nobody has because those things cost real materials and money to produce.
 
How many high-ranking officials who were calling covid dangerous broke the lockdown orders in various countries?

Do you think you have more information about it than they do? Equivalent amounts of info? If you do you're fucking stupid.



No, the equivalent here would have been to have a government order for them to all stay inside and wear condoms if they went outside.
My general sentiment being that this is basically nothing and they didn't have serious attempts to stop AIDS at all, especially when they had the time to do so.
If they won't kill a dozen gay guys to prevent a world changing disaster, I don't really care about a super mild cough.
 
Surgical masks do not do this, they exist for the purpose of preventing sweat and bacteria from dripping from a surgeon's face into a patient's innards. They do not stop the spread of viruses, the only thing that could do that is a gas mask or a rebreather, of which nobody has because those things cost real materials and money to produce.

Wrong. Surgeons wear masks to do what you said, but also to help prevent them from spreading bacteria and viruses
 
Wrong. Surgeons wear masks to do what you said, but also to help prevent them from spreading bacteria and viruses

Real, actually rated surgical masks should kill viruses in any droplets you exhale, but weird ones from China or home-made ones won't.
 
Wrong. Surgeons wear masks to do what you said, but also to help prevent them from spreading bacteria and viruses
Real, actually rated surgical masks should kill viruses in any droplets you exhale, but weird ones from China or home-made ones won't.
Unless it happens to be airborne, which COVID-19, a respiratory disease, is.
 
Wut? If they tested negative for infection, it's hardly a surprise they had no symptoms.
You can be infected and asymptomatic, retard.
99.95% survival rate, that'd mean that only 1 in 2000 people who get it die. So that would mean that even if everyone caught it, it'd be 210,000 x 2000 = 420,000,000 people in the US. However, the population the US alone is 360,000,000 and the high-end estimates for exposure are only about 10%. So that'd mean math has proven you to be wrong yet again.
360,000,000 minus 99.95% is 180,000.

You were saying something about math being too hard?
Yay another bloody thread of people falling for Hulks bloody bait.
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210,000 deaths of 328,000,000 people, or 0.04%, I'm not sure why this has to be habitually explained to you.

Highly contagious and extremely deadly with no vaccine or heard immunity and it killed 0.04% of the population?

It's not about the masks, it's about the Democrats utterly destroying the middle class over something that's killed 0.04% of the population, 40% of which are people in nursing homes.

I'm thankful every day that i have a job that's open and the flexibility to work from home or the office but I feel for every single person who hasn't been to work in six months because Orange Man Bad.
You forgot to add in the damage it does to the lungs to even healthy people and even then you can get the virus again after 60 days.


Sooo yeah have fun not wearing your mask.
 
Surgical masks do not do this, they exist for the purpose of preventing sweat and bacteria from dripping from a surgeon's face into a patient's innards. They do not stop the spread of viruses, the only thing that could do that is a gas mask or a rebreather, of which nobody has because those things cost real materials and money to produce.
That and early on, nearly every store(online and offline) was out of N95 and better. This was when even hand sanitizer became like gold in terms of value. This was when toilet paper became ass-safe gold.
 
Surgical masks do not do this, they exist for the purpose of preventing sweat and bacteria from dripping from a surgeon's face into a patient's innards. They do not stop the spread of viruses, the only thing that could do that is a gas mask or a rebreather, of which nobody has because those things cost real materials and money to produce.
The proposed mechanism of action for face masks is that the virus is mostly spread by droplets emitted by breathing, so a properly-worn face mask will mitigate how much you expose others to the virus. Thinking that your mask will stop you from being infected is very :optimistic:, since you'll mostly draw air in through the sides when you inhale. I don't have enough rainbows to accommodate how :optimistic: putting 100+ people in a cramped space is OK and expecting their magic safety blanket to stop them from being infected (e.g. your favorite BLM rally) is. It's better than nothing, though, and reducing the growth rate of your logistic curve is helpful.

The advice given was accordingly to avoid social contact (if possible) and to wear a face mask (if you must). Compliance seems to have deteriorated to zero where not legally required, so now most people in my area are doing the same things they were before the pandemic started, except that they wear their magic legally-blessed thin cloth safety blanket (the same ones for weeks at a time - absorbing droplets is generally not a property of either moist or thin cloth) and whine at everyone who doesn't. That type of person is extremely annoying, because they're simultaneously quite likely to spread it and quite self-righteous about how proper their behavior is.
 
Surgical masks do not do this, they exist for the purpose of preventing sweat and bacteria from dripping from a surgeon's face into a patient's innards. They do not stop the spread of viruses, the only thing that could do that is a gas mask or a rebreather, of which nobody has because those things cost real materials and money to produce.
You quite clearly don't know what you're talking about. A respirator would not stop you from spreading the virus to other people if you have, the outlet isn't filtered, that's why you see doctors dealing with COVID patients wearing N95s AND surgical masks. A respirator only exists to protect the person wearing it.
 
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You can be infected and asymptomatic, retard.

360,000,000 minus 99.95% is 180,000.

You were saying something about math being too hard?
I would hope that people who test negative are asymptomatic, considering they don't have it.

So you're saying 100% of people have been infected with covid? You suck at math and logic buddy
 
If masks only affected the person wearing them, I wouldn't give a shit. Masks are to protect you from spreading it to others (as I've told you a billion times by now). Instead we have people like you who don't care that they're potentially spreading a pandemic (and thus extending all this bullshit) just because they're too much of a whiny bitch to wear a mask without throwing a temper tantrum
Riddle me this, CuckHogan, if your divine masks work SOOO well....then why the FUCK is the lockdown still going? Why are people being forced to use it?

You cant have both narratives. Either this virus isnt as dangerous as the media claimed it was, or the masks dont do dick.
 
Riddle me this, CuckHogan, if your divine masks work SOOO well....then why the FUCK is the lockdown still going? Why are people being forced to use it?

You cant have both narratives. Either this virus isnt as dangerous as the media claimed it was, or the masks dont do dick.
he's just skeer'd because his terminal case of GRIDS has made him extremely susceptible to the viral equivalent of a stiff breeze
 
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