2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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You too? I don't understand how texting random people is supposed to help for their cause. I ask how they get my number, but I surmised that if you're registered to vote, they have your information on file.

Do actual people send those texts or are they bots?

It's borderline spam.
Actual people and bots. I've gotten texts from nonexistent organizations, even.
I've had my number for a really long time so I assume that they check the voter rolls and have had my number tied to my voter information for years now and whoever "they" are have spread it out to whoever pays for it and then that was further distributed... etc etc.

edit: sometimes you can just look up the number of who texted you and find out their info. it's a thing for organizations like moveon to get students to volunteer their times (and phones) to spam a bunch of people.
 
What if they are simply polling X number of people at a time, and the samples favor Dems in terms of just numbers?

Edit: as I've established, I pray to God Almighty every day I am wrong. I want you guys to be right when you say that the journoscum are setting themselves up for another 2016-tier humiliation. But I find it hard to believe that the Left have learned nothing over the last 4 years; at the very least, they know not to get complacent.
Fear is of the devil. Its literal demon worship

If you win then there is nothing to worry about.

If you lose have plans to make whatever the democrats have in store to be very costly to enact.

Either way do something positive instead of sitting and worrying.

What I am doing is living with a friend in a very rural area. You know to keep distance between me and whatever post election shit storm that happens in urban areas.

Sure this wont change the situation but its what I can do myself and is whats within my power to do so.

Thats my advice. Do something you can do that postive. If only to keep your morale up.


In another thread I came up with the idea of a safety work strike. The idea is people stop working due to concern of their safety. Why work if political violence is running amok? If enough people did this America would come to screeching halt. The strike wont end until these violent rioters are reigned in.
 
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I know that this is for the presidential election, but I really just gotta give the Missouri governor race a shoutout. They're really sending out their best.

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So, here's the thing:

Most of this is something that I think a LOT of Americans have been thinking; something that a LOT of Americans would like to say to a lot of people they know.

But the fact that it's coming from Mitt Romney? Fuck off. There's a difference between civility and being a pussy ... Guess which type of person I think that Romney is?

Romney is being less harsh on the guy that LITERALLY said that "Romney will put you all back in chains" back in 2012 than the President of the United States, who is only guilty of being an example of why Romney is such a loser.

The democrats set the tone years ago. Trump represents the boiling point that many conservatives and republicans have been feeling for years. Conservatives like myself have been called every awful name in the book for a very long time, and it appeared that "taking the high road" that Romney wants us to continuously take did NOTHING to alleviate those falsehoods being peddled everywhere. Also, the country was going to hell in a handbasket as a result of "taking that high road," too. Hence, Donald Trump happened.
 
In 2016 I received 1 text asking for support for Hillary. My then step-uncle was a big Hillary shill who was campaigning for her. He gave them all the numbers in his contact for texting, so mine was like, "Hey, Clockwork! Step-Uncle has given us your number..."

I wasn't even old enough to vote then.

So that's one way your number gets spread around, though that might not be why they have yours.
 
So, here's the thing:

Most of this is something that I think a LOT of Americans have been thinking; something that a LOT of Americans would like to say to a lot of people they know.

But the fact that it's coming from Mitt Romney? Fuck off. There's a difference between civility and being a pussy ... Guess which type of person I think that Romney is?

Romney is being less harsh on the guy that LITERALLY said that "Romney will put you all back in chains" back in 2012 than the President of the United States, who is only guilty of being an example of why Romney is such a loser.

The democrats set the tone years ago. Trump represents the boiling point that many conservatives and republicans have been feeling for years. Conservatives like myself have been called every awful name in the book for a very long time, and it appeared that "taking the high road" that Romney wants us to continuously take did NOTHING to alleviate those falsehoods being peddled everywhere. Also, the country was going to hell in a handbasket as a result of "taking that high road," too. Hence, Donald Trump happened.
Basically this.

The Right has been called Bigots, Racist, Sexist, Fascist, Nazi KKK members for as long as I can remember. Donald Trump calling Joe Biden sleepy is not remotely close to what the Right has been called for ages.

Keith Olberman legitimately called Trump Supporters Maggots this weekend and called for everyone who supports Donald Trump to be put in fucking Jail, and Mitt is STILL fucking being a simp.
 
In 2016 I received 1 text asking for support for Hillary. My then step-uncle was a big Hillary shill who was campaigning for her. He gave them all the numbers in his contact for texting, so mine was like, "Hey, Clockwork! Step-Uncle has given us your number..."

I wasn't even old enough to vote then.

So that's one way your number gets spread around, though that might not be why they have yours.
I bet nowadays they ask people to download an app that automatically skims contact lists. Apps do that already (especially call-blocking apps), so I wouldn't be surprised one bit. I hate this shit so much, people have no idea that that's what's going on.
 
So, here's the thing:

Most of this is something that I think a LOT of Americans have been thinking; something that a LOT of Americans would like to say to a lot of people they know.

But the fact that it's coming from Mitt Romney? Fuck off. There's a difference between civility and being a pussy ... Guess which type of person I think that Romney is?

Romney is being less harsh on the guy that LITERALLY said that "Romney will put you all back in chains" back in 2012 than the President of the United States, who is only guilty of being an example of why Romney is such a loser.

The democrats set the tone years ago. Trump represents the boiling point that many conservatives and republicans have been feeling for years. Conservatives like myself have been called every awful name in the book for a very long time, and it appeared that "taking the high road" that Romney wants us to continuously take did NOTHING to alleviate those falsehoods being peddled everywhere. Also, the country was going to hell in a handbasket as a result of "taking that high road," too. Hence, Donald Trump happened.
He badly wants to be like his father, who was a great governor who brought the two parties together. But unlike Mitt's feeble chatter, George Romney was the one who acted. George is the one who will be remembered. Poor Mitt doesn't even have the backbone to stand as his own man and with his surname as perk. Just like Cuomo, he's a pox to the name.
 
There's no such thing as a demoralized Trump voter, but there are a lot of demoralized Biden voters out there who are just simply going to abstain from voting, vote third-party, or vote for Trump.

I'll somewhat disagree here. I think there's parts of the 2016 Trump coalition that didn't quite get what they wanted: the 12% of Bernie voters who went for Trump, the people who wanted Hillary locked up, the ones who were super serious about getting a wall built, and the ones who thought he would drain the swamp by now. I can see some of them being demoralized.

On top of that, I can see some of the "scandals" from his 1st term shaving some margins off his numbers. Being anti-immigration in 2016 was still somewhat respectable; the same position now is OMG KIDS IN CAGES. A lot of his Cabinet and agency picks were bad. Covid has been a mess, and the Big Guy in charge always catches blame for big messes, no matter whose fault it really is. And there's a traditional Republican faction who wants the Army rolling into Portland and Minneapolis to restore order. The one Law & Order move he made caught him flack from Christians who weren't happy about the borrowed Bible photo op.

If you want explicit examples, Ann Coulter was an early supporter but got disillusioned on his immigration policies. Kanye West liked his style and worked on justice reform (which Coulter also hated), then stopped supporting Trump after he "hid" in a bunker during the early riots. You can call these two flakes or controlled opposition, but they personify disapproval and disappointment that non-celebrities also feel.

(No, I don't need the explanations for why those aren't real screw-ups from Trump. I already know them. They don't matter. Some people will believe the explanations and some won't; this is about losing votes on the margins, not about losing an Internet argument.)

The same people who had an emotional reaction against Hillary or for Trump in 2016, are also susceptible to an emotional reaction to any of the things above. I have personally had to talk down Trump supporters who got upset over the "kids in cages thing", they only saw the pictures on the news without the context of the Obama era policies. But I am only one autist; not everyone who reacted that way has a non-lefty politics nerd nearby to explain what's going on.

Baris/Barnes have covered this in the last week, noting the Trump 2020 coalition is somewhat different than the 2016 version. He's an incumbent with a track record now, but he's also the last bulwark against the lunatic Left. He's doing things in government that haven't seemed possible in decades, like re-balancing trade, rejuvenating industry, and getting actual peace deals. Every scandal that loses him some votes can potentially be balanced out by picking up previously skeptical people (like me).

Yes, his actual base, the ones who love his boomer ass and wear MAGA hats while it's a literal risk to their life, haven't abandoned him. They still love him, and they're holding boat parades and car rallies like we've never seen before. I don't know if anything he's done in the last 4 years added to their number, we might just be seeing the same 2016 crowds who aren't allowed to do big rallies so they're spreading out in more visible forms. In any case, they do not represent the entirety of his 2016 coalition; only the most enthusiastic bloc.

When you subtract the disappointed 2016 voters from the 2020 converts, is that enough to win an election? Don't know yet, it's too crazy to tell right now. But those disappointed voters are out there.
 
It's not dooming; it's calling attention to a worrisome amount of cocksuredness I'm seeing from the right. Maybe I'm being even superstitious, but casually handwaving away the polls because "muh bias" or "muh Nate Cadmium was wrong that one time"

He wasn't only wrong "that one time." Try again.

is like saying "a team up 3 games to 1 by Game 5 of the World Series isn't actually about to win because the Cubs came back from that in 2016".

This kind of cockiness is what tends to precede a Luciferian fall. You're expecting the 2016 lightning to strike twice.

Possible for Trump to win? Sure. But we ignore/dismiss the polls at our own peril.

Then cry yourself to sleep over the polls, nobody else cares.

What will this thread do if Biden wins by a landslide? A lot of crow will be feasted upon.

Sure, I see enthusiasm for Trump, but that's hard to reconcile with placing faith in shy Trump voters. The enthusiastic could be just a very vocal minority.

How many Biden/Harris signs do you have outside your trailer?
 
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Romney thinks he‘s being cleverly centrist by releasing a lefty-leaning letter before confirming Barrett.

In reality, this means nothing and I have no idea what leftists there are in UTAH for him to kowtow to. Every mormon I know is strongly pro-Trump.
being a centrist is easy until one figures out the democrats want you dead. Cant comprise with that.
 
Romney thinks he‘s being cleverly centrist by releasing a lefty-leaning letter before confirming Barrett.

In reality, this means nothing and I have no idea what leftists there are in UTAH for him to kowtow to. Every mormon I know is strongly pro-Trump.
Mormons can be based, but they also have a cuckservative streak. See also: Jeff Flake.
 
I'd like to see Romney interviewed by an actual conservative, not a DC reporter. Someone like Mollie Hemmingway or Stephen Crowder. I'd even settle for another wishy washy guy like Ben Shapiro or Glenn Beck. Just constantly going "why?", point out how he needs the cummies from the left while letting them get away with the nastiest things and how he's trying to excuse the behavior they started. Just watch his face go from smiling to mormon mad.

I'm still expecting him to endorse Biden in the last week like a complete traitor to Utah, perhaps he and Fauci will come out to announce their Biden endorsements while hugging each other while wearing masks, crying about the lack of civility.



And from anecdotal evidence where I live and those around us, there was a low point with Trump enthusiasm when he got diagnosed. But with how quickly he bounced back, and how strong he was in the past week, everyone is on the same wavelength that this is going to be 2016 again. Everyone has basically ignored the corona bullshit and realized "things were good to great these past four years, this is clearly an outlier for the past six months, things will not stay this way." That's hitting people a lot more now, especially as work has been pretty much back to normal the past two months and maybe a little busier in order to pick up some of what was lost in the spring.
 
I'd like to see Romney interviewed by an actual conservative, not a DC reporter. Someone like Mollie Hemmingway or Stephen Crowder. I'd even settle for another wishy washy guy like Ben Shapiro or Glenn Beck. Just constantly going "why?", point out how he needs the cummies from the left while letting them get away with the nastiest things and how he's trying to excuse the behavior they started. Just watch his face go from smiling to mormon mad.

I'm still expecting him to endorse Biden in the last week like a complete traitor to Utah, perhaps he and Fauci will come out to announce their Biden endorsements while hugging each other while wearing masks, crying about the lack of civility.



And from anecdotal evidence where I live and those around us, there was a low point with Trump enthusiasm when he got diagnosed. But with how quickly he bounced back, and how strong he was in the past week, everyone is on the same wavelength that this is going to be 2016 again. Everyone has basically ignored the corona bullshit and realized "things were good to great these past four years, this is clearly an outlier for the past six months, things will not stay this way." That's hitting people a lot more now, especially as work has been pretty much back to normal the past two months and maybe a little busier in order to pick up some of what was lost in the spring.
If Romney endorses Biden I will personally move to Utah and take a dump on his lawn.

It would be political suicide, he knows it, his base knows it, the people who primaried against him in 2018 know it, but even still he may just be enough of a snake to do it.
 
I know Florida closed their registration on October 5th, and I doubt its the only state. Why is she doing this now? It's too late. It's like reminding people to wear sunscreen at the beach this summer.
It's not dooming; it's calling attention to a worrisome amount of cocksuredness I'm seeing from the right. Maybe I'm being even superstitious, but casually handwaving away the polls because "muh bias" or "muh Nate Cadmium was wrong that one time" is like saying "a team up 3 games to 1 by Game 5 of the World Series isn't actually about to win because the Cubs came back from that in 2016".

This kind of cockiness is what tends to precede a Luciferian fall. You're expecting the 2016 lightning to strike twice.

Possible for Trump to win? Sure. But we ignore/dismiss the polls at our own peril. What will this thread do if Biden wins by a landslide? A lot of crow will be feasted upon.

Sure, I see enthusiasm for Trump, but that's hard to reconcile with placing faith in shy Trump voters. The enthusiastic could be just a very vocal minority.
Republicans will crawl through broken glass to get to Trump even if he's got 99% of the vote and they'd make it 100%. Trump's handed us some good wins in term of policy, and he's actually generating a conservative resurgence in terms of general culture.

Republicans will also crawl over broken glass to vote AGAINST the Democrats. It's hidden by Trump enthusiasm, but the Democrats are legitimately a revolting evil that needs to be stopped. They've fomented riots, destroyed businesses and lives, burned our cities, and expect praise for the bravery of hurting innocent people. They're the bastard brew of Nero, Caligula, and Elagabus. It's not just a matter of different opinions - if Biden wins, it means mob violence is an acceptable political tactic. It means endless shutdowns for your own good. It means cultural destruction as long as it's politically convenient.

There's no Republican who views this as a tailgate party. It's literally our last best chance to avert disaster.
So since Trump has such big rallies and enthusiasm on his side, why aren't more of these "shy Trump voters" coming out of the woodwork? There's enough solidarity among conservatives that anyone who gets their tires slashed or their house burned down will not be unheard if they make enough noise.

Look at Nick Sandmann, the McCloskeys, or Aaron Danielson. GEOTUS stands up for his supporters when the Left does them wrong.
There's a bunch of silent Trump supporters, but there's also bunch of silenced Trump supporters. I've gotten blocked for correcting people's facts on social media, and I was trying to be very polite about it. Muting me didn't change my mind, it just made it so we no longer interact. I'd gladly light up my profile with MAGA pictures, but they'll never see it. If you make your world a bubble, don't be suprised when you find out things are different on the outside.

And given the purity fatwas about getting rid of "toxic" (a.k.a. non-enabling) friends and family coming from in the left, and how goddamn abrasive the progressives are about literally everything (google "Is [X] racist"), I wouldn't be suprised if entire strategy committees now consisted of a bunch of fantasists giggling amongst themselves at the cleverness of their farts while mocking anyone who points out the room is on fire.

Being ignored isn't the same thing as being quiet.
 
Romney thinks he‘s being cleverly centrist by releasing a lefty-leaning letter before confirming Barrett.

In reality, this means nothing and I have no idea what leftists there are in UTAH for him to kowtow to. Every mormon I know is strongly pro-Trump.
If Romney was president, our troops would STILL be in the Middle East. That's what Trump has over him.

Fucking spineless Mormon.
 
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