New York Post got their hands on a hard drive from Hunter Biden's laptop and shows Joe Biden lied about Hunter's dealings with Ukraine

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Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Hunter Biden introduced his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm less than a year before the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine in…
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FBI has had the laptop for over a year already and didn't say anything. Remember when Trump got impeached for congratulating the new President of the Ukraine?

What the hell is the FBI doing?

Supposedly there is also a video of him engaged in a "sex act" and a couple of photo's of him. This is one is particular juicy

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Hawley just sent a letter to the FEC also


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Techpriest said:
Part of the reason why is because if it *is* true, then these emails likely came from a hack by Russian intelligence into Burisma earlier this year.
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Doesn't the article state that the content comes from the hard drive that came from a laptop that was sent in for repair and eventually became abonded property after the owner failed to reclaim it?
 
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Techpriest said:
Part of the reason why is because if it *is* true, then these emails likely came from a hack by Russian intelligence into Burisma earlier this year. The information therefore falls under the same sort of blanket ban on hacked documents being propogated that they implemented this year - it’s what kept the BlueLeaks site from getting retweeted. Twitter can and has been sued before for posting hacked information.

As for why they haven’t talked about it on major media outside of fox, the reason I gave in my points can be added to here - not only is it unverified but also the source is questionable if not flat out illegal. The person writing the article has also only written three articles for the NY Post - only about this. And that person is... a former producer/writer for Hannity. Not to mention the Rudy connection which automatically makes me go “are you serious?”

Without legal proceedings, (which is what’s happening with the trump sexual assault allegations) there’s pretty much no solid way to talk about this whole thing without potentially getting into massive legal trouble later on down the line. Fox doesn’t give a shit as they’ve basically put their entire legal defense into “it’s all entertainment programming not news programming” to dodge lawsuits relating to slander and libel when their hosts intentionally mislead or flat out lie about people. So far it’s worked for them.

That said there was and is other news articles talking about this that isn’t the Post, and are written about the post article in a much more even handed way. The Post is a Murdoch owned tabloid rag and anything they “break” the story on should be taken with a pinch of salt, if not a shipping container full of it when the reporter involved has these sort of connections to the people they’re getting the story from, and are almost 100% trying to push an agenda.

Saying all this and explaining why it’s bullshit though takes more time and effort than a simple retweet and cries of “we owned the libtards”, which is what most of this site does rather than taking a brief second to evaluate sources, motivations, etc. For a bunch of wannabe internet historiographers, kiwis are really bad about trying to keep their personal biases out of trying to determine what’s truth and what isn’t.
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You're inferring a lot from this without any evidence while accusing everyone else of doing just that.
 
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Is there a precedent that could be used against Twitter in this case to revoke their status as a "Platform" and classify them as a "Publisher" legally?
At the very least I'd hope there's something they could be threatened with legally considering their overt willingness to give the NYT a week long headline on the site about Trump's unverified tax information. They're blatantly playing favorites and abusing the vague rules of the system and I'd love to see them get the big shaft of the government they love so much rammed down their throats.
 
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Frisbee Disco Tits said:
Doesn't the article state that the content comes from the hard drive that came from a laptop that was sent in for repair and eventually became abonded property after the owner failed to reclaim it?
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Yes, from some random guy in Delaware, according to an unidentified lawyer who is working for Rudy. It’s been confirmed that Rudy has taken information from people known to be working with Russian intelligence before during his wild fishing expedition for anything in the Ukraine. The story of the acquisition is fishy as hell. The fact that he made a copy of the hard drive is fishy as hell too. The fact that only pictures purporting to be the emails were shared to the post raises even more suspicions about their veracity and their origin.

The computer repairman story is a lot like “this fell off the back of a truck officer” bullshit. It reeks.
 
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Frisbee Disco Tits said:
Doesn't the article state that the content comes from the hard drive that came from a laptop that was sent in for repair and eventually became abonded property after the owner failed to reclaim it?
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Yes, but that's not going to stop social media companies from censoring an explosive political article.

This doesn't necessarily apply to Delaware or laptops, but includes a description of how the law treats abandoned property.


"Abandoned property is one to which the owner has relinquished all rights including reasonable expectation of privacy. Generally, abandoned property becomes the property of person who finds it and takes possession of it first. Examples of abandoned property are possessions left in a house after the tenant has moved out, vehicles left beside a road for a long period of time and or patent rights of an inventor who does not apply for a patent and allows others to use his/her invention without protest. However, an easement and other land rights are not abandoned property just because of non-use."

Guiliani's a lawyer. He would know how this works in Delaware.

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Yes, from some random guy in Delaware, according to an unidentified lawyer who is working for Rudy. It’s been confirmed that Rudy has taken information from people known to be working with Russian intelligence before during his wild fishing expedition for anything in the Ukraine. The story of the acquisition is fishy as hell. The fact that he made a copy of the hard drive is fishy as hell too. The fact that only pictures purporting to be the emails were shared to the post raises even more suspicions about their veracity and their origin.

The computer repairman story is a lot like “this fell off the back of a truck officer” bullshit. It reeks.
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When I've sent a computer out for data recovery, what I usually get back is a hard drive containing the contents of the original disk.

While I don't know all the specifics, it would be reasonable for a computer repair firm to make a copy of the hard drive.

It would likely be reasonable for them to manually inspect the contents of the drive to see what was preserved. A manual inspection can reveal issues automated inspection might miss.

It would likely not be reasonable for them to identify the public figure associated with the hard drive and hand the data over to a political rival. That's the shady part.

Then again, if you're getting stiffed on the bill, why not?
 
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Techpriest said:
Yes, from some random guy in Delaware, according to an unidentified lawyer who is working for Rudy. It’s been confirmed that Rudy has taken information from people known to be working with Russian intelligence before during his wild fishing expedition for anything in the Ukraine. The story of the acquisition is fishy as hell. The fact that he made a copy of the hard drive is fishy as hell too. The fact that only pictures purporting to be the emails were shared to the post raises even more suspicions about their veracity and their origin.

The computer repairman story is a lot like “this fell off the back of a truck officer” bullshit. It reeks.
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According to the article, the laptop had a "Beau Biden Foundation" sticker on it, which means that there is a good chance that it's the laptop Hunter was using for work at the foundation in Delaware, which means that a staffer at the foundation brought it in after discovering that it had water damage.

And look, Hunter is clearly 5 cans short of a six pack, so he would sync everything to that computer, even if it wasn't related to foundation business. The meth pipe photo and sex tape probably came from his iCloud account.

Also, why wouldn't a computer tech make a copy of a hard drive on a computer he's working on? And why wouldn't he browse through the files that are on the hard drive? Every single fucking computer tech is looking at your homemade porn when you bring a computer in for repair. Every single fucking one, not just the ones that are abandoned property.

Never fucking bring computers with confidential info into a repair shop. Always do it in house.
 
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Techpriest said:
Yes, from some random guy in Delaware, according to an unidentified lawyer who is working for Rudy. It’s been confirmed that Rudy has taken information from people known to be working with Russian intelligence before during his wild fishing expedition for anything in the Ukraine. The story of the acquisition is fishy as hell. The fact that he made a copy of the hard drive is fishy as hell too. The fact that only pictures purporting to be the emails were shared to the post raises even more suspicions about their veracity and their origin.

The computer repairman story is a lot like “this fell off the back of a truck officer” bullshit. It reeks.
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You know what also reeks? Every social media site pouncing within hours to censor the information and confirm it's "fake."

Literally no proof for or against (minus the pictures), and yet they have the audacity to pretend to be the final say in this very hot topic.

Excuse everyone for being a bit pissed at that, and the possibility we just wasted assloads of money to impeach a president that didn't even do anything wrong, had a point, and was distracted FROM THE FUCKING PANDEMIC, because some retarded dementia-riddled faggot enabled his manchild of a son to smoke meth at an AirBnB.
All this while the perpetrators were willingly distracting everyone just so said faggot can smoke more meth because Biden is a shit parent.
 
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Wingnut said:
Is there a precedent that could be used against Twitter in this case to revoke their status as a "Platform" and classify them as a "Publisher" legally?
At the very least I'd hope there's something they could be threatened with legally considering their overt willingness to give the NYT a week long headline on the site about Trump's unverified tax information. They're blatantly playing favorites and abusing the vague rules of the system and I'd love to see them get the big shaft of the government they love so much rammed down their throats.
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No.

There is absolutely not.
 
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You're inferring a lot from this without any evidence while accusing everyone else of doing just that.
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There’s inference, and inference. It isn’t a massive leap in logic to assume Facebook and Twitter are trying to cover their own asses here. The writer of the articles past employment and rather sudden publication of this, Rudy’s documented history of flat out pretending he’s got something juicy and in general acting kinda nuts, and the very suspicious story of how he acquired this.


Ivan Shatov said:
Yes, but that's not going to stop social media companies from censoring an explosive political article.

This doesn't necessarily apply to Delaware or laptops, but includes a description of how the law treats abandoned property.


"Abandoned property is one to which the owner has relinquished all rights including reasonable expectation of privacy. Generally, abandoned property becomes the property of person who finds it and takes possession of it first. Examples of abandoned property are possessions left in a house after the tenant has moved out, vehicles left beside a road for a long period of time and or patent rights of an inventor who does not apply for a patent and allows others to use his/her invention without protest. However, an easement and other land rights are not abandoned property just because of non-use."

Guiliani's a lawyer. He would know how this works in Delaware.
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Giuliani says that’s where it came from, but lots of the story are contrived as hell and just don’t add up. The source is something you always look into, and this one smells super fishy.
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Even if it was a hack, the media just went hog wild posting Drumpf's tax returns all over creation when they were obtained illegally.
Fuck's sake, the only good that would come of a Communist revolution is all journalists would be freed from this mortal coil.
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There’s a lot of legal CYOA that has to be done before stuff like that gets published. There’s a lot of case law involving it, and legal precedent. Hacked materials, far less so, doubly so if related to the actions of a foreign intelligence agency. It’s a minefield. Especially if you report it as true and it turns out to be entirely fabricated.

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According to the article, the laptop had a "Beau Biden Foundation" sticker on it, which means that there is a good chance that it's the laptop Hunter was using for work at the foundation in Delaware, which means that a staffer at the foundation brought it in after discovering that it had water damage.

And look, Hunter is clearly 5 cans short of a six pack, so he would sync everything to that computer, even if it wasn't related to foundation business. The meth pipe photo and sex tape probably came from his iCloud account.

Also, why wouldn't a computer tech make a copy of a hard drive on a computer he's working on? And why wouldn't he browse through the files that are on the hard drive? Every single fucking computer tech is looking at your homemade porn when you bring a computer in for repair. Every single fucking one, not just the ones that are abandoned property.

Never fucking bring computers with confidential info into a repair shop. Always do it in house.
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It’s creating a copy and handing the original to the feds that makes me start to go “???”, especially when that happened months ago during the whole senate investigation into Hunter Biden and the Ukraine. Somehow this didn’t turn up then?

This entire thing is too convenient and the pieces don’t match up.
 
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Techpriest said:
It’s creating a copy and handing the original to the feds that makes me start to go “???”, especially when that happened months ago during the whole senate investigation into Hunter Biden and the Ukraine. Somehow this didn’t turn up then?

This entire thing is too convenient and the pieces don’t match up.
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Just to be clear - are you questioning the origin of the hard drive, denying the authenticity of the contents, or both?
 
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Ivan Shatov said:
Just to be clear - are you questioning the origin of the hard drive, denying the authenticity of the contents, or both?
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Both. While the pictures of Hunter are interesting, they can easily be edited/doctored, the EXIF’s played with, the pictures could be real but the emails faked, etc etc. I lean toward it all being fake because of Rudy’s track record and questionable contacts and ethics.
 
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Techpriest said:
Both. While the pictures of Hunter are interesting, they can easily be edited/doctored, the EXIF’s played with, the pictures could be real but the emails faked, etc etc. I lean toward it all being fake because of Rudy’s track record and questionable contacts and ethics.
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So you're saying that they illegally obtained fake evidence that they doctored themselves? I think your argument has a couple extra chromosomes...
 
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