Chinese Nationalists / Wumaodang (五毛党) / 50 Cent Party - CHINA NUMBAH WAN

[Furina]

The biggest counterargument I found is speculation that the purported number of surgeries carried out could not have been completed in the time frame suggested.

Now where have I heard that line before? Obviously it's going to be nearly impossible to pin down an exact number and I'm pretty sure that's by design, but the issue is more that it's happening at all rather than just how wide-spread it is.

It's dealing with situations like this that reveal one of the West's biggest Achilles heels. Because English is the lingua franca for a lot of the world, native English speakers are both at an advantage and a disadvantage. For instance, the Chinese can create English-language propaganda targeting Westerners specifically, while hiding all their dirty secrets in their own language. They can easily keep tabs on what's happening in the West because English-speaking Chinese aren't that hard to find, but we have pretty much no idea what's happening on Weibo or BiliBili because it's all in Chinese. Gathering intel like we do from Facebook and Twitter won't be nearly as easy and there's no saying what kind of misunderstanding might arise from machine translations. It's not a bug, it's a feature.

 

[Least Concern]

It's dealing with situations like this that reveal one of the West's biggest Achilles heels. Because English is the lingua franca for a lot of the world, native English speakers are both at an advantage and a disadvantage. For instance, the Chinese can create English-language propaganda targeting Westerners specifically, while hiding all their dirty secrets in their own language. They can easily keep tabs on what's happening in the West because English-speaking Chinese aren't that hard to find, but we have pretty much no idea what's happening on Weibo or BiliBili because it's all in Chinese. Gathering intel like we do from Facebook and Twitter won't be nearly as easy and there's no saying what kind of misunderstanding might arise from machine translations. It's not a bug, it's a feature.

I find that take puzzling. What's "secret" about Mandarin? Classes are easy to find; hell, the PRC runs the Confucius Institute centers on many college campuses that teach it. In addition China has been one of the largest sources of (voluntary) immigration throughout the country's history to the extent that both the country and various states have occasionally made laws restricting or forbidding it. If you want to find someone in America who speaks Mandarin, you can do so. If you want to learn it yourself, you can do that too. I have no reason to believe that our massive federal government doesn't have plenty of glowies in the right spots who are monitoring Chinese media in real time,

Hell, give it another century or so, and Mandarin might be the world's lingua franca by then.

 

[Beautiful Border]

I find that take puzzling. What's "secret" about Mandarin? Classes are easy to find; hell, the PRC runs the Confucius Institute centers on many college campuses that teach it. In addition China has been one of the largest sources of (voluntary) immigration throughout the country's history to the extent that both the country and various states have occasionally made laws restricting or forbidding it. If you want to find someone in America who speaks Mandarin, you can do so. If you want to learn it yourself, you can do that too. I have no reason to believe that our massive federal government doesn't have plenty of glowies in the right spots who are monitoring Chinese media in real time,

Hell, give it another century or so, and Mandarin might be the world's lingua franca by then.

I think that comes from the idea that Mandarin is too difficult for native English speakers to learn, which honestly has a certain level of truth to it. Mandarin is several orders of magnitude harder to learn than, say, Spanish or Italian. The fact that it's a tonal language combined with its idiosyncratic writing system means that you really have to put the effort in to become fluent, much more so than with most other languages (and Americans, Brits, Aussies, etc. aren't exactly known for bilingualism to begin with).

 

[buymygame]

hating the CCP is racist because the majority of Chinese citizens support them

Walk up to a couple in xinjiang with my camera streaming directly to ChinaNet servers.
I ask them "Do you support the CCP?".
Sweat runs down their foreheads.
After looking blankly at my camera for a solid 15 seconds, they seem unsure how to respond.
Then out of nowhere the couple are gagged, dragged into the back of an unmarked van, and my camera destroyed.

As they are driven off to the cotton farms, I think to myself, is the CCP as bad as people say?
No, everyone is just super racist.

 

[L. Duse]

I think that comes from the idea that Mandarin is too difficult for native English speakers to learn, which honestly has a certain level of truth to it. Mandarin is several orders of magnitude harder to learn than, say, Spanish or Italian. The fact that it's a tonal language combined with its idiosyncratic writing system means that you really have to put the effort in to become fluent, much more so than with most other languages (and Americans, Brits, Aussies, etc. aren't exactly known for bilingualism to begin with).

It shouldn't be hard to find people fluent in both English and Mandarin online though. If the stories that I hear about a Chinese national offering Null help to host the Farms are true, then there should be billingual users on this site.

The only problem I see is that these people will not enjoy listening to criticism, justified or otherwise, about China especially if they are Chinese nationals.

Someone compared China to Nazi Germany. While I disagree with that, I am sure you'd be hard pressed to find a German who hates the Nazis or hates Germany in the 1930s.

 

[Coleslaw]

How about @AltisticRight ?

 

[Alrakkan]

Nathan Rich looks like this:

 

[Doctor Placebo]

It shouldn't be hard to find people fluent in both English and Mandarin online though. If the stories that I hear about a Chinese national offering Null help to host the Farms are true, then there should be billingual users on this site.

The only problem I see is that these people will not enjoy listening to criticism, justified or otherwise, about China especially if they are Chinese nationals.

Another issue is that Chinese expats who still have family there might fear retaliation against family members who still live there if they become public faces of criticism of the CCP. Considering red China's history and some of their current behavior, there really is the sense that they could do almost anything to get their way. Cancel culture in the west is child's play. The Chinese government is actually scary, on a global level.

 

[Knojkamarangasan_#4]

I'm not quite sure if this would fit in the thread but one common thing I always see among these people is even when they're outside their disgusting country they always like to play the victim and get mad whenever you say ANYTHING. Especially with them having started to larp on reeeecism over covid and pretending that it could have happened everywhere when it's CLEARLY Chinas fault. It's all so tiresome.

Anyways the reason I mention this is to just give an example. Recently some literally who tiktok loser got mad over an art piece in a small restaurant in Sweden and the usual wumao type people are going mad in the comments.The fact that they force themselves to spread their garbage anywhere is the worst. Of course if Sweden had any spine they would have been deported immidiately but being Sweden nothing will happen of course.

THE FACE OF HATE



And the angry tiktok manlet





Which is of course especially ironic when he himself can make fun of the country he's currently living in. Then again I'd expect nothing less from hypocritical chinks like this.

 

[L. Duse]

Another issue is that Chinese expats who still have family there might fear retaliation against family members who still live there if they become public faces of criticism of the CCP. Considering red China's history and some of their current behavior, there really is the sense that they could do almost anything to get their way. Cancel culture in the west is child's play. The Chinese government is actually scary, on a global level.

I disagree if only because there is a lot of criticism about China by the Chinese within China.

If you actually browse Chinese sites and cross the Firewall and are able to read Chinese, you'd find that criticism about the government is rife.

I am assuming that you consider complaints about their almost Yuan Dynasty style affirmative action favouring minorities at the expense of the majority Han to be criticism.

Or how inefficient their government is in dealing with the day to day municipal problems.

Or asking why people the Chinese consider traitors like Fang Fang who penned the Wuhan Diary to be still under the employ of the state sponsored Writer's Association or 作协.

When I was at college, I had a schoolmate from mainland China. When I told her I was studying about contemporary and Maoist China, she was filled with praise for Chairman Mao. Some went into stories about how their grandparents at great expense went to Beijing just to catch a glimpse of Chairman Mao. You might call them brainwashed but the reverence and pro-China attitudes are genuine.

So when you want to start a thread about Wumao, do you want to talk about Youtubers and internet personalities who adopt a pro-China stance or anyone who is pro-China which includes a lot if not an overwhelming majority of Chinese nationals?

 

[Jack Awful]

he says that hating the CCP is racist because the majority of Chinese citizens support them

The Chinese on average are wealthier than whites, so if anything, it's racist NOT to hate the CCP.

 

[Y2K Baby]

Lefty /pol/, pls.

 

[KittyGremlin]

Would be funny if it weren't so sad

 

[WarJams]

Pastor Harassed Because He's a Communist Spy, Protesters Say

MIDLAND, TX — A dramatic scene unfolded outside the home of Pastor Bob Fu after protestors accused him of being a spy for the Chinese Communist Party.

sanangelolive.com

Fu's neighbors want city to do more to end protests

As crowds of protesters lined up in front of Pastor Bob Fu’s home for the second week, his neighbors in Polo Park are growing frustrated by what they perceive as a lack of action by the city of Midland and Midland Police Department.

www.houstonchronicle.com

https://www.newswest9.com/article/news/local/midland-mayor-holds-press-conference-for-bob-fu-update/513-0189d975-9799-4d23-8588-be6757d832e4

So here's a truly odd story, not sure if this is the best thread for it, but it's just too fucked to go unremarked on.

There's a Chinese ex-pat in Texas named Bob Fu (lel) who has a charity called China Aid, which he has run for near 20 years, which he alleges is designed to help oppressed Christians in China. Naturally, this makes him an enemy of the Chinese government.

All of a sudden, this chink millionaire named Miles Guo makes the accusation that Bob Fu is a secret chink spy and magically BLM style protesters start being bussed in to raise hell in the guy's neighborhood starting on October 5th, and have been there EVERY DAY since, raving, picketing and passing out propaganda leaflets about how Bob Fu is a chink spy. Some of the protesters who have been arrested have been swiftly bailed out by a "local attorney". They are all bought and paid for protesters by agents of Miles Guo.

This is so contrived and chinky. The residents are getting fucking sick of them.

 

[Reverend]

This thread is fucking pointless and awful.

 

[Trapitalism]

This thread is fucking pointless and awful.

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[Least Concern]

All of a sudden, this chink millionaire named Miles Guo makes the accusation that Bob Fu is a secret chink spy and magically BLM style protesters start being bussed in to raise hell in the guy's neighborhood starting on October 5th, and have been there EVERY DAY since, raving, picketing and passing out propaganda leaflets about how Bob Fu is a chink spy. Some of the protesters who have been arrested have been swiftly bailed out by a "local attorney". They are all bought and paid for protesters by agents of Miles Guo.

Miles Guo? That's the guy who founded the "New Federal State of China" so-called government in exile with Steve Bannon of all people and some other expats with beef against the CCP earlier this year. There's something seriously off with the whole affair - either it's so glow-in-the-dark you can see it from the ISS, or the guy is just fucking nuts. Maybe both. Either way, I don't think his declarations of who is and isn't a CCP spy should hold much weight.

 

[Windows XP Home Edition]

NI MA SI LE!!!!

I love how wumaos bash the West for being "uncultured", yet Chinese tourists go to other countries and cause havoc, cause damage to anything (even in their own country) and excrement all over the place.

YES Taiwan is brainwashed! I asked a few of them and this is what they're all like! Can Taiwan be part of The Glorious Motherland™ now? (Why the hell would you want a "province" that is so hostile to your country's regime?)

TAIWAN NUMBUH ONE Y'ALL!!!111

So many Wumaos in the comment sections complaining about how the West is "undermining" anti-terror activity. Putting innocent civilians and forcing them into detention camps is not exactly helping curb terrorism.


Edit: I found another one!!!! An American expat sucking off the CCP.

Oh yeah, and r/AZNidentity and r/Sino, which is full of Wumao racists who hate white people.

https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/aowo44/is_prowhite_propaganda_the_reason_behind_taiwan/

YEAH WHITE MAN BAD ! It's definitely not because China keeps disregarding and violating Taiwan's sovereignty and its history (Taiwan was originally formed from the Nationalist party who are hostile to the CCP) and Japan and China have historical tensions.
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[Slimy Time]

Sadly have a friend who might as well be one of these. Coronavirus turned this guy from a otherwise rational man to a CCP cock sucker. Uyghur camps are ok because some might be terrorists, China saved incompetent West by sending defective PPE. China created a cure to the virus. Even better, he's Indian, which is in conflict with China. He burned bridges over this. Only thing that stops him from going full retard is he's not putting his views online for people to laugh at.

Don't understand why non mainland Chinese suck the dick of the CCP. Even overseas Chinese in South East Asia learned to hate the mainland Chinese. Go to Singapore or Malaysia and see the attitudes of Chinese Singaporeans/Malaysians towards the the mainlanders. They really don't like them.

 

[discombobulate]

Sadly have a friend who might as well be one of these. Coronavirus turned this guy from a otherwise rational man to a CCP cock sucker. Uyghur camps are ok because some might be terrorists, China saved incompetent West by sending defective PPE. China created a cure to the virus. Even better, he's Indian, which is in conflict with China. He burned bridges over this. Only thing that stops him from going full retard is he's not putting his views online for people to laugh at.

Indians have been split on China, at least more upper class/caste Indians. Quite a few resent Western countries, even if they live there, and believe the Chinese hogwash about resisting imperialism and how the West tried to keep Asia down but Mao stood up to them. Indians are also a lot like the Chinese in that "Indians" didn't exist until modern history except as people who lived in India, the region. Much like non-Han in China, non-Hindu Indians are repressed in the name of multiculturalism.