The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

He's just mad because his mom and dad won't let him have girls from his autism social group over, so he takes it out on the people who can get laid.

Also I know the real reason why he got banned. It's pretty autistic and has nothing to do with stickers lol

Yeah, I’m pretty sure he’s the one that vote bombed the One Piece thread. Yeah, definitely him.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I got banned for saying "ok lol" to null after he removed my sticker permissions. He was in a bad mood I guess lol.
It's telling that both of you replied to me with nonsense insults, ignoring any substance in my post as always. I see you still haven't found the balls to actually argue anything.

Funny, you blame me for getting you banned. Now you're saying the real reason when called on it. Hmm...

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

When you take a look at the literature of the whole thing you begin to realize that there's more to one dimension to this. I read the literature, and I know that fetuses are human beings because I took a look at the data, and the data says that 100% of fetuses who survive to become a baby become human.

I looked at the picture, I saw the skull, the part of baby removed, the master race abortion clinic. Whites are killing 1000s of black people every year every day. If you thought George Foreman was bad enough, take a look at the tomb of the unknown fetus.

 

[haurchefant]

When you take a look at the literature of the whole thing you begin to realize that there's more to one dimension to this. I read the literature, and I know that fetuses are human beings because I took a look at the data, and the data says that 100% of fetuses who survive to become a baby become human.

I looked at the picture, I saw the skull, the part of baby removed, the master race abortion clinic. Whites are killing 1000s of black people every year every day. If you thought George Foreman was bad enough, take a look at the tomb of the unknown fetus.

Abortion has been the only tactic that reliably keeps the black population as small as it is in the US. They went from 10% to only 13%, thank God. Imagine the havoc niggers would wreak if there were more of them, does anyone seriously want that? Look at all the damage they've already done just this year in riots. Or the damage of decades of welfare queening. The endless black hole of money that we throw away on them. Abortion keeps them in check and keeps their population from growing. Once we get the wall up we'll also be able to keep pushing abortion on Hispanics and with some luck their population growth will slow down or possibly even shrink if we're successful, their population growth has been from unchecked illegal immigration more than the amount of kids they have. We need to discourage that as much as possible.

It's most likely too late for the US to remain a majority white nation but that doesn't mean we should make it easy for them. Making sure that blacks and hispanics abort their kids while white women keep having children is the best shot we have, at least in my estimation. (We don't need to have 18 children per family, we just need to out breed our enemies.) If we ride out the population bottleneck then we'll have a population boom, but it only matters if we stop other races from out breeding us. It's important to remember that whites are a global minority and that lots of blacks and browns want to massacre us and steal our stuff.

Sentiment being what it is we have to wait for society's views on families to change but abortion is a reliable tactic to keep other races in check while we work on that.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

No physician worth his salt is going to recommend that a woman terminates her pregnancy in the 9th month because of her mental health.

"Late term" begins from month 4-5, not month 9, and we're talking about the existence of the bill that proposes allowance of late term abortions for essentially any reason up to the point of birth (and for doctors to not attempt to save what is unambiguously a human life past the point of birth and without a DNR order they signed themselves).

As previously stated, lots of physicians aren't worth their salt. This allowance matters, and you can't dismiss it because it's inconvenient to even your goalpost shifting.

And fuck off with any mentions of Kermit Gosnell, because he's far from the norm.

Nobody mentioned Gosnell this entire thread until you.

You have zero ground to be calling a single person in this thread a "sped". Every "no uterus, no opinion" whinge you've made has been in exclusive service of sparing your fragile ego from the heat of an argument you ostensibly chose to be a part of. You can't be assed to read the first tenth of an article before you blast off into irrelevant crap. Worse, you're too dishonest to argue your actual beliefs or preface those you front with as not yours.

The only things you've proven to be good for are worthless side swipes and public displays of severe cognitive dissonance.

 

[Lemmingwise]

"Late term" begins from month 4-5, not month 9, and we're talking about the existence of the bill that proposes allowance of late term abortions for essentially any reason up to the point of birth (and for doctors to not attempt to save what is unambiguously a human life past the point of birth and without a DNR order they signed themselves).

As previously stated, lots of physicians aren't worth their salt. This allowance matters, and you can't dismiss it because it's inconvenient to even your goalpost shifting.


Nobody mentioned Gosnell this entire thread until you.

You have zero ground to be calling a single person in this thread a "sped". Every "no uterus, no opinion" whinge you've made has been in exclusive service of sparing your fragile ego from the heat of an argument you ostensibly chose to be a part of. You can't be assed to read the first tenth of an article before you blast off into irrelevant crap. Worse, you're too dishonest to argue your actual beliefs or preface those you front with as not yours.

The only things you've proven to be good for are worthless side swipes and public displays of severe cognitive dissonance.

Ngl, I thought it was a troll for a while, as everything written could just be summarized by the username.

 

[PhoBingas]

Think about it. Do you really want to loose more tax money to fund social services to the 50k extra basketball american babies that would be born each year? Are your taxes not high enough?

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Think about it. Do you really want to loose more tax money to fund social services to the 50k extra basketball american babies that would be born each year? Are your taxes not high enough?

Can't we work to make the inner city communities suck less?

 

[PhoBingas]

Can't we work to make the inner city communities suck less?

Who made the inner city communities suck? Is it the people making laws? Is it the people who determine zoning? Or is it the addicts, thugs, drug pushers, and other degenerates who push the people who actually want to be productive members of society out because they're sick and tired of living the "can't have shit in Detroit" meme day in and day out?

 

[Lemmingwise]

Think about it. Do you really want to loose more tax money to fund social services to the 50k extra basketball american babies that would be born each year? Are your taxes not high enough?

I find the abortion defenders morally reprehensible. Especially since most of the argumentation is based on convenience. And that's when it is argumentation rather than goalpost shifting and character attacks. There has so far been one willing in this thread to try some constructive dialogue. I find it morally reprehensible because a lack of responsibility seems to be at the core of both the issue, as the way the issue is discussed.

But not as morally reprehensible as "yes, hundreds of thousands of babies are getting killed, but it includes black people, so it's politically convenient"

 

[PhoBingas]

I find the abortion defenders morally reprehensible. Especially since most of the argumentation is based on convenience. And that's when it is argumentation rather than goalpost shifting and character attacks. There has so far been one willing in this thread to try some constructive dialogue. I find it morally reprehensible because a lack of responsibility seems to be at the core of both the issue, as the way the issue is discussed.

But not as morally reprehensible as "yes, hundreds of thousands of babies are getting killed, but it includes black people, so it's politically convenient"

Suggest an alternative. I'm all ears, but I already lose almost half my pay to taxes to fund useless eaters, I'd hate to see the hit my pay is going to take when abortion is criminalized.

 

[haurchefant]

Suggest an alternative. I'm all ears, but I already lose almost half my pay to taxes to fund useless eaters, I'd hate to see the hit my pay is going to take when abortion is criminalized.

imagine thousands of Kaepernicks, getting paid millions of dollars in football dollars, kneeling on fields forever. sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit.

abortion isn't a magic bullet, only destroying the welfare state will do something to civilize blacks, but there is a correlation to women getting abortions and crime rates dropping: https://www.nber.org/papers/w25863.pdf

is it controversial? oh hell yeah. is it true? evidence points that way.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Suggest an alternative. I'm all ears, but I already lose almost half my pay to taxes to fund useless eaters, I'd hate to see the hit my pay is going to take when abortion is criminalized.

The underlaying reason there is resistance is that there is an unwillingness to examine our sexual mores, and an unwillingness to act responsibly towards the topic of sex.

We've had a sexual revolution, one built on fraudulent research on which false ideas about sex were built.

Covid shows how rapidly society can change. The sexual revolution showed the same. People like Bill Gates could just as easily build conferences, charities and so on toward a different view on sexual morality. Kinsey and the enduring institute that carries his name and the same lies endure from then to now with rockefeller funding.

There are many ways to approach it and I'm sure I'm not the best person to draw that blueprint in detail. If we put value in it, attention, resources, political will, we could reach a lot, and quite quickly.

The demand for abortions is high in part, because we know it's there as a kind of get out of jail free card. Kinsey's fraudulent research laid the basis for people thinking that they demand was frequent and common. No wonder. 45% of his married women sample were prostitutes living with their pimp, not even married. That's what was in the back of people's mind during Roe v. Wade. That backalley abortions were a common occurence, even among married couples.

As for the specific question, what about black people and their inability to economically contribute in a modern economy. The experiment has been run. In african countries. In european countries. In american countries. Resources have been poured in, yet like people responsible for getting women into tech, looking back each year the resources seem to be squandered. The more decades and experiments you look at the more dismal it gets.

Yet it's still hipocrisy to stand by and watch murder, even if one parent does it gladly, and community looks on it gladly, and crime stats look on it gladly.

Literally genociding black people would also be good for crime stats (if you exclude those genocidal murders from the stats). And yet you wouldn't be okay with that (I presume). So I don't just consider it moral evil for condoning murder, but also for the ideological laziness to not take your convictions to the logical conclusion.

Like someone who think animals shouldn't be killed, but still eating meat.

The who pays the boatman? Question is as poor as it was each page it was made. The historical answer was to make welfare dependant on the mother not having more children. It was a very effective way to prevent pregnancies when security was tied to the prevention of pregnancy.

 

[PhoBingas]

abortion isn't a magic bullet, only destroying the welfare state will do something to civilize blacks, but there is a correlation to women getting abortions and crime rates dropping:

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be all "HURR DURR JOGGERS BAD!", but getting rid of legal abortion will not get rid of the demand for legal abortion. If the ban goes through you'll see hundreds if not thousands of back alley abortion clinics popping up, and people doing crazy home "remedies" to try and skirt the ban.

Bad for everybody.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Who made the inner city communities suck? Is it the people making laws?

Kind of? The War on Drugs and the federal crime reforms of the 80s and 90s, contributed to an already increasing absence of fatherhood in the African-American community, which only served to leave more children vulnerable to the negative influences you went on to mention if they weren't lucky enough to get out of Dodge.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be all "HURR DURR JOGGERS BAD!", but getting rid of legal abortion will not get rid of the demand for legal abortion. If the ban goes through you'll see hundreds if not thousands of back alley abortion clinics popping up, and people doing crazy home "remedies" to try and skirt the ban.

Bad for everybody.

I disagree. Mind you, I don't advocate for a banning of abortion (at least, not wholesale), but should it be banned, you get less abortions, period. People aren't going to put themselves in harm's way getting shady medical services or substances in such a way that the conversion rate from legal to back-alley/DIY will be 1:1.

Of course, without transforming the culture to one more cognizant of sexual responsibility, you could argue that the actual conversion rate could still be substantial.

 

[Lemmingwise]

If the ban goes through you'll see hundreds if not thousands of back alley abortion clinics popping up, and people doing crazy home "remedies" to try and skirt the ban.

The kinsey myth lives on.

See how ingrained his unproven suppositions are?

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be all "HURR DURR JOGGERS BAD!", but getting rid of legal abortion will not get rid of the demand for legal abortion. If the ban goes through you'll see hundreds if not thousands of back alley abortion clinics popping up, and people doing crazy home "remedies" to try and skirt the ban.

Bad for everybody.

if they die from performing their abortions maybe they deserve to die, have you ever thought about that?

 

[PhoBingas]

if they die from performing their abortions maybe they deserve to die, have you ever thought about that?

How many women have let you near their vagina Kevin?

 

[Eris!]

When you take a look at the literature of the whole thing you begin to realize that there's more to one dimension to this. I read the literature, and I know that fetuses are human beings because I took a look at the data, and the data says that 100% of fetuses who survive to become a baby become human.

That seems pretty one dimensional to me.

Abortion has been the only tactic that reliably keeps the black population as small as it is in the US. They went from 10% to only 13%, thank God. Imagine the havoc niggers would wreak if there were more of them, does anyone seriously want that? Look at all the damage they've already done just this year in riots. Or the damage of decades of welfare queening. The endless black hole of money that we throw away on them. Abortion keeps them in check and keeps their population from growing. Once we get the wall up we'll also be able to keep pushing abortion on Hispanics and with some luck their population growth will slow down or possibly even shrink if we're successful, their population growth has been from unchecked illegal immigration more than the amount of kids they have. We need to discourage that as much as possible.

It's most likely too late for the US to remain a majority white nation but that doesn't mean we should make it easy for them. Making sure that blacks and hispanics abort their kids while white women keep having children is the best shot we have, at least in my estimation. (We don't need to have 18 children per family, we just need to out breed our enemies.) If we ride out the population bottleneck then we'll have a population boom, but it only matters if we stop other races from out breeding us. It's important to remember that whites are a global minority and that lots of blacks and browns want to massacre us and steal our stuff.

Sentiment being what it is we have to wait for society's views on families to change but abortion is a reliable tactic to keep other races in check while we work on that.

That's like chopping off your arm because you got a small cut. The solution to the black population is forced deportation, not keeping them here but perpetually murdering their babies as population control.

Think about it. Do you really want to loose more tax money to fund social services to the 50k extra basketball american babies that would be born each year? Are your taxes not high enough?

Again, you present a problem with a clearly better solution, and then propose mass infanticide as the solution. How about we just... don't raise taxes to feed black people?

Can't we work to make the inner city communities suck less?

Can't we just not care at all how much they suck or don't suck?

If the ban goes through you'll see hundreds if not thousands of back alley abortion clinics popping up, and people doing crazy home "remedies" to try and skirt the ban.

I have no problem with murderers being unsafe during the act of murder. What's bad about this?

if they die from performing their abortions maybe they deserve to die, have you ever thought about that?

If they survive it they deserve to die anyway for committing murder.

 

[ElAbominacion]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be all "HURR DURR JOGGERS BAD!", but getting rid of legal abortion will not get rid of the demand for legal abortion. If the ban goes through you'll see hundreds if not thousands of back alley abortion clinics popping up, and people doing crazy home "remedies" to try and skirt the ban.

Bad for everybody.

I think he is saying to end welfare checks and the welfare queen culture with it.