2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Eris!]

Well, I do think the failure of traditional morality to successfully weather the conditions of the 20th Century is what led to it getting coopted by corporate forces and politicians looking for cheap votes.

The rest of the post has some side sperging that's largely unrelated, so I'll spoiler it, but you might actually find it interesting.

You're mistaken in thinking it's natural. Traditionalism did not die of natural causes, it was murdered deliberately. The frankfurt school and other agitators have been undermining it for decades. This didn't just happen, someone did it. Remove those someones and their subversion vanishes and we will return to normal almost immediately.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Well, I do think the failure of traditional morality to successfully weather the conditions of the 20th Century is what led to it getting coopted by corporate forces and politicians looking for cheap votes.

The rest of the post has some side sperging that's largely unrelated, so I'll spoiler it, but you might actually find it interesting.

Spoiler: Some food for thought

To look at it from a Biblical perspective, it's possible this was part of a divine plan. The Bible states that just before the End Times, there will be rampant wickedness and total godlessness which allows the Beast and the False Prophet to come to power.

I know there is a lot of debate on how much of Revelation was allegorical and how much of it was actual literal prophecy but the Four Gospels also discuss some of the points that get brought up in Revelation so I figured it'd be worth mentioning.

I'm not quite sure where traditional Catholicism stands on it, but I do know that hardcore fundies think it's 100% literal millennialist predictions of future events while secular scholars think it's 100% allegory and social commentary on the Roman persecutions of early Christians.

The Rapture isn't really a Biblical thing. Catholics don't believe in it and neither do Eastern Orthodox or mainline Protestants. Even among Evangelical Protestantism, it's an extremely controversial issue with just as many detractors as defenders.

Given how the Antichrist were to come to power before the End Times as described, that would mean that Christianity would be a dead or nearly dead religion. Like, we're talking it'd have the same numbers as pagan polytheism or Zoroastrianism do today. Small fringe groups and individuals who follow it and maybe some revivalist/reconstructionist groups but very much a small minority nonetheless.

We're not quite at that point yet, but I think it could get to that point once the Boomers completely die out unless the Core/Late Zoomers and Generation Alpha really do live up to the /pol/ memes and go full Deus Vult.

Muslims believe that Islam will almost die out someday which leads to the world becoming a hell hole. And then we get the Mahdi along with Jesus Christ/Prophet Isa to save the world. And then the world ends after one of them dies or both. And then the Day of Judgment happens.

 

[Maamtis]

What really bums me out about the two party system is that the Democrats have spent the last 4 years acting like spoiled children and their candidate is currently being exposed as the kind of politician that made people turn to Trump and they will STILL get at least 42% of the vote.

 

[MrJokerRager]

What really bums me out about the two party system is that the Democrats have spent the last 4 years acting like spoiled children and their candidate is currently being exposed as the kind of politician that made people turn to Trump and they will STILL get at least 42% of the vote.

I felt just the same when the GOP did not lose by at least a 400 plus electoral margin to Obama in 2008. I was a person who hated the neocons a lot and Bush's ratings were probably lower than Buchanan or reconstruction era Andrew Johnson. And McCain even wanted more war including wanting to invade Iran.

However there has been a slow change in party makeup as Trump is definitely attracting some anti war democrats, white working class union voters, white middle class, more minorities than McCain and Romney. Democrats are now officially the party of Wall Street now and the fashionable choice for coumtry club smug pricks.

 

[abacussedout]

Well, I do think the failure of traditional morality to successfully weather the conditions of the 20th Century is what led to it getting coopted by corporate forces and politicians looking for cheap votes.

The rest of the post has some side sperging that's largely unrelated, so I'll spoiler it, but you might actually find it interesting.

Spoiler: Some food for thought

To look at it from a Biblical perspective, it's possible this was part of a divine plan. The Bible states that just before the End Times, there will be rampant wickedness and total godlessness which allows the Beast and the False Prophet to come to power.

I know there is a lot of debate on how much of Revelation was allegorical and how much of it was actual literal prophecy but the Four Gospels also discuss some of the points that get brought up in Revelation so I figured it'd be worth mentioning.

I'm not quite sure where traditional Catholicism stands on it, but I do know that hardcore fundies think it's 100% literal millennialist predictions of future events while secular scholars think it's 100% allegory and social commentary on the Roman persecutions of early Christians.

The Rapture isn't really a Biblical thing. Catholics don't believe in it and neither do Eastern Orthodox or mainline Protestants. Even among Evangelical Protestantism, it's an extremely controversial issue with just as many detractors as defenders.

Given how the Antichrist were to come to power before the End Times as described, that would mean that Christianity would be a dead or nearly dead religion. Like, we're talking it'd have the same numbers as pagan polytheism or Zoroastrianism do today. Small fringe groups and individuals who follow it and maybe some revivalist/reconstructionist groups but very much a small minority nonetheless.

We're not quite at that point yet, but I think it could get to that point once the Boomers completely die out unless the Core/Late Zoomers and Generation Alpha really do live up to the /pol/ memes and go full Deus Vult.

This is pretty America/Europe centric. Christianity is alive and well in the global south and population trends show that part of the world becoming dominant in the next few generations. America might become a husk of barren childless troons but Africa and the Latin world will be spawning Christian babies out the wazoo. The West might have embraced Christianity but it's not a Western religion by origin and won't end that way.

And I think the change in morality is much simpler. You don't need God when you've got money. There's a correlation between material wealth and secularism/godlessness. And America is the wealthiest nation on earth. Even our poors are in the global 1%.

 

[Eris!]

This is pretty America/Europe centric.

Earth and Reality are America-centric.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Earth and Reality are America-centric.

China would still be a shithole if we didn't recognize and support them. We should have invest into Taiwan, or stayed out altogether.

 

[Eris!]

China would still be a shithole if we didn't recognize and support them. We should have invest into Taiwan, or stayed out altogether.

Are you implying it's not a shithole now?

 

[cantankerous jackalope]

What I don't honestly understand - and maybe some of the left leaning guys can let me know if I've unknowingly become blind to the other side (possible at this point) - is how is the tribalism in this election so bad that you are OK with your side using the media to silence your opposition? Like, this whole thing with Twitter/Facebook silencing ANYONE talking about this story when they've never done this before - silencing our own government trying to talk about the corruption of a political rival - how does that not set off a few alarms in your head that you might be on the wrong side in this one? Is it just that they're in too deep now or what?

It's like every single dystopia of their YA novels growing up that they love to make analogies to. But like, this shit is actually happening lmao. How can they still think that they're the resistance, or at the very least, the 'good' guys?

 

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You're mistaken in thinking it's natural. Traditionalism did not die of natural causes, it was murdered deliberately. The frankfurt school and other agitators have been undermining it for decades. This didn't just happen, someone did it. Remove those someones and their subversion vanishes and we will return to normal almost immediately.

There's cultural inertia. Even with the Post-Modernists (Marxism as a Religion to subvert Science and Rationalisty) and Cultural Marxists (Marxism retooled for Identities; IDPol) gone -- which I honestly don't ever see happening outside of a massive right wing cultural uprising in the US, or an outright failed attempt at a violent cultural revolution by the left -- you'd still have legions of people trained in education methods and faux-science bullshit that would take 2-3 generations to get out of our systems.

I don't have a solution to this. Barring Cultural Marxism and Post-Modernists from receiving government financial aid would be a good start.

Giuliani will release the info next Friday.

This gives the Democrats next week to get rid of Joe Biden.

Early voting for Joe Biden will be invalidated; it will not magically tick over to whomever they replace him with. Not even if they pick Kamala.

All early voting for Trump will still count.

Every swing state will flip Trump because of the early / mail-in voting on the left.

October Surprise.

 

[Eris!]

There's cultural inertia. Even with the Post-Modernists (Marxism as a Religion to subvert Science and Rationalisty) and Cultural Marxists (Marxism retooled for Identities; IDPol) gone -- which I honestly don't ever see happening outside of a massive right wing cultural uprising in the US, or an outright failed attempt at a violent cultural revolution by the left -- you'd still have legions of people trained in education methods and faux-science bullshit that would take 2-3 generations to get out of our systems.

I don't have a solution to this. Barring Cultural Marxism and Post-Modernists from receiving government financial aid would be a good start.

Think of it like a bowl in a ball. There is a natural state to which the system has always formed back to. Culture is like that. The biology, history, and other inherent traits of a people naturally create a culture. They naturally create a mean to which people revert. There is inertia, yes, but it keeps the ball at the bottom. The ball never goes uphill unless someone makes it.

 

[2021Murder]

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Someone claimed that these were the internal poll numbers per state that Biden was ahead in,

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The Grassroot Summit took place this afternoon and apparently Biden is ahead in all of the internal polls when it comes to the states. except Texas and Georgia. These are apparently not inflated and he is speculating Biden's national lead is between 8.5-11%.

I know that there is such a thing as bad internal polls but if these are true, to say it's worrisome is an underestimate.

How is it worrisome? You cant find a poll going for trump, i remember the LA times one was giving trump a slight advantage. Even the polls the conservatards use to gloat in this thread have biden up +4.

Overall it makes sense, the southwest is full of "rapists, thieves, and some good people i assume" the midwest is full of tards that will forgive the awful shit that happened in the cities and tons of women who are just evil cunts. VA for government jobs and finally Biden doing his "man from scranton" bit since he was shilling for hill 4 years ago

I live in a very blue part of purple state and haven't seen a single Biden sign at all in my neighborhood until today when suddenly every third house seems to have one, and they weren't there yesterday. Curious timing.

The biden campaign is like Ethan Ralph and making decisions based on our comments. Null is basically the ruler of the world but doesnt realize it.

Counterpoint: It's California. Though I have a feeling the margin might not be as wide this time around.

Nope. I can tell you from personal experience even people who were convicted by Mrs.Harris herself are voting for her, even 18 year olds that know that Harris's decision is the reason they last saw their parents 7 years ago and were forced into the fostercare adoption systen are vot8ng for her

 

[babadook]

Holy shit guys I went for a walk here in Berlin and all the polling stations had queues several meters long, and they were full of non-whites chatting about ridin with Biden. Trump is finished

 

[Syaoran Li]

This is pretty America/Europe centric. Christianity is alive and well in the global south and population trends show that part of the world becoming dominant in the next few generations. America might become a husk of barren childless troons but Africa and the Latin world will be spawning Christian babies out the wazoo. The West might have embraced Christianity but it's not a Western religion by origin and won't end that way.

And I think the change in morality is much simpler. You don't need God when you've got money. There's a correlation between material wealth and secularism/godlessness. And America is the wealthiest nation on earth. Even our poors are in the global 1%.

Well, I actually agree with you on all of this but I was just giving a thought exercise for @Terrorist to think about. If the rise of secularism in the 21st Century really is part of Biblical prophecy, then maybe the West is meant as a "Patient Zero" and then the Third World countries have their decline in religion as well?

There's cultural inertia. Even with the Post-Modernists (Marxism as a Religion to subvert Science and Rationalisty) and Cultural Marxists (Marxism retooled for Identities; IDPol) gone -- which I honestly don't ever see happening outside of a massive right wing cultural uprising in the US, or an outright failed attempt at a violent cultural revolution by the left -- you'd still have legions of people trained in education methods and faux-science bullshit that would take 2-3 generations to get out of our systems.

I don't have a solution to this. Barring Cultural Marxism and Post-Modernists from receiving government financial aid would be a good start.


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Giuliani will release the info next Friday.

This gives the Democrats next week to get rid of Joe Biden.

Early voting for Joe Biden will be invalidated; it will not magically tick over to whomever they replace him with. Not even if they pick Kamala.

All early voting for Trump will still count.

Every swing state will flip Trump because of the early / mail-in voting on the left.

October Surprise.

I don't think they even can get rid of Joe Biden this late in the game unless the DNC gets Biden to concede the election to Trump on the evening of November 3 before the votes can be fully tallied. Any attempt to get Biden out of the election early is going to cause panic and attract a lot of unwanted attention regarding this scandal. Even the Silicon Valley technocrats couldn't censor something as big as Biden being removed from the ticket before the election even begins. It'd be too big of a story to properly memory hole.

Depending on how bad the scandal is, they could give a cover story about Biden's failing health and faculties (which is true)

 

[Jarolleon]

For reference, this is the video of Styx talking about this. If Trump truly watched this, he just got red pilled hard himself. I wonder if Styx will get new subs though.

Also the Trump commericals mocking Biden.

Trump does RT lots of people including obscure nutters (which the Dems tried to use for a gotcha), but a man can dream!

 

[Puff]

Holy shit guys I went for a walk here in Berlin and all the polling stations had queues several meters long, and they were full of non-whites chatting about ridin with Biden. Trump is finished

Low effort. 2/10

 

[heyitsmike]

Arizona isn't a swing state in 2020.

Does that mean McSally is safe?

Early voting for Joe Biden will be invalidated

Can you back this claim up with something?

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Tfw Mr. Rodgers was a lifelong Republican. (And even if he was a democrat, it's wrong to drag a dead man into this )

Lifelong Republicans are the most loyal Democrats.

Posthumously.

 

[Vaclav]

If SJWs were caused by the religious right being strong, they would've cropped up hundreds of years earlier when the "religious right" was much stronger, not at secularism's peak in the 21st century. Just how powerful do you think the religious right was in the 1990s when SJWs grew up, anyway? Did they have institutional control - or were they just a loud, widely-mocked diversion? Put another way, was the kid whose half-senile grandma wouldn't let him watch cartoons or have pokeyman cards because they were the devil normal, or weird? It was weird where I grew up (btw I wasn't that kid).

I guess according to your logic, I should raise my kids as commie faggots if I want them to have traditionalist values later. We all exist in a state of permanent kneejerk rebellion, just like how you felt because dumb stupid christcuck grandma made you go to bed early instead of letting you stay up to watch Adult Swim all those years ago.

Again, religious right had many failings - chief among them focusing on stupid shit like pokemon cards instead of serious cultural issues - but those are issues of weakness, not of strength. You think because they were loud they were strong, but a dying animal is also loud. What you heard was a death rattle.

The American religious right arose as a distinct political force in the 1970s as a reaction to the 60s counterculture and sexual revolution. Religion and politics have always been intertwined and there have been many other politically active religious movements in history, but characters like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell arose specifically to lead a resistance to the cultural trends of the 60s. Before they came along, there were plenty of preachers decrying rock music or liquor sales, but they didn't have a nationwide organized movement to push their agenda.

They cast a shadow over a couple generations of popular culture and prompted furious resistance from artists and creators. Even today, I still hear left-wing people talking about how "Republicans want to start a nuclear war so all the Christians can get raptured." And the thing was, the religious right never intended to win, they probably didn't think they could. The leaders of the movement, like SJWs, were mostly concerned with lining their pockets. The campaigns against Teletubbies and Harry Potter were intended to get people talking and keep donations coming in. It's like PETA, they don't expect to ever turn the world vegan by throwing blood at models in fur coats, but it helps them attract a core base of volunteers and donors.

It was a lot of fun to mock and deride the religious right, and many of the people who did thought they were on the way to a better world where irrational beliefs would be a thing of the past. But they misunderstood human psychology. Most people's brains are wired in a way that requires them to have some kind of faith, some absolute foundational idea that can't be logically disassembled. There's also a significant segment of the population that's naturally authoritarian; those people typically channel their impulses into religion. Their personality type is discussed in this book: The Authoritarians.

The religious right went down in flames with George W. Bush, and after that, those authoritarian and religious personalities found themselves homeless. Authoritarians don't want to join a fringe movement whose influence is fading, they crave the social validation that comes from being on the winning team. The "right side of history," as it were. And as Obama entered his second term, the anti-rational postmodernist thinking that had been gestating inside universities erupted into the mainstream and gave them something new to believe in. And since it doesn't appear to be a religion in the trational sense, making no claims about metaphysics, gods, an afterlife or the creation of the world, it's been able to spread through institutions unchecked by the First Amendment or policies against religious discrimination.

 

[Jeffrey Epstein]

hey i'd vote for biden if he dealt with the foremost problem of our day; the furry spawned catastrophe known as global rawrming.