Lolcow Melinda Leigh Scott & Marshall Castersen - Sue-happy couple. Flat earth conspiracists. Pretending to be Jewish. Believe Kiwi Farms is protected by the Masonic Order. 0-6 on lawsuits. Marshall is dead.

[TamarYaelBatYah]

I think Marshall deserves a break. He moved all the way across the country thinking he was going to hook up with a righteous woman who could help educate him on the finer points of Torah. What he got was a perverse proponent of incest, who had only a fantasy of Torah in her mind that she decided was true. Can't blame the guy for being jaded and ignoring the impostor who abused his affections

Aside from the fact that your comment is more internalized misogyny (an attempt to subvert another female), what makes you think Marshall didn't know what I believed before he married me?

 

[Toasty]

On the other hand, considering that he was abusive, we might almost say it was... divine justice that he ended up with someone so awful.

Accurate to Linda he's totally not abusive. Except when he's abusing other women. But they deserved it. When he abused her, it's "eye for an eye"" because I'm certain that I whenever he abused her, she deserved it.

Aside from the fact that your comment is more internalized misogyny (an attempt to subvert another female), what makes you think Marshall didn't know what I believed before he married me?

What female am I trying to subvert? I'm sure Marshall knew what you believed, he just didn't know that there was no doctrinal basis's for it. He thought that you had a mainline to righteousness but found that you were just another false teacher.

 

[TamarYaelBatYah]

What female am I trying to subvert? I'm sure Marshall knew what you believed, he just didn't know that there was no doctrinal basis's for it. He thought that you had a mainline to righteousness but found that you were just another false teacher.

You're talking about a guy who believes the earth is flat. I highly doubt he makes his choices on scholastic consensus or popular view.

Marshall read my papers before we married. Like I said before, we had a 90% agreement on theological/doctrine issues. That's why he picked me.

Our fights weren't about his or my beliefs. Especially because I never called myself "teacher" anyplace

 

[CyrusKissFanClub]

And I noticed you overlooked her Conclusions/concluding remarks:

No, I haven't overlooked anything. And Wassen's work is cited and well-regarded by Ilan.

You are reading something into that conclusion that isn't there. The article is about a Jewish sect that prior to the discovery of the Qumran documents was believed were exclusively male. The "preconceived notions" she is referring to were the accounts of the Essenes by Josephus, Pliny and Philo who wrote that the Essenes were exclusively male. She states this in the introduction of the article:

There is no concept of "gender equality" in the Qumran documents and Ilan doesn't claim she has found any such a thing. The Qumran documents show a presence of women in the Qumran community therefore it wasn't comprised exclusively of men. Since woman are present they must have defined roles and responsibilities--this doesn't equate to "gender equality".

The women had their own hierarchy parallel to men. This is an important distinction. There were no women ruling over men and this is stated explicitly in the top highlight. Further, the existence of a parallel female hierarchy is an inference by Ilan on the basis of multiple fragmented pericopes. There is no explicit description of this female hierarchy. But even if we admit it it does not change the patriarchal nature of Qumranites.

On page 138-9 is Serekh ha-Edah (The Rule of Congregation) which is end of days gathering/messianic banquet. Everyone is included in this because the world is ending. It is instruction on preparation for the end of days and this includes purity concerns.

She knows the next wave of feminists are coming

You still don't understand. Fourth-wave feminism is based on Kimberlé Williams Crenshaw's silly idea of intersectionality. You should read about it before commenting. It has no relevance to Torah interpretation.

 

[Bloitzhole]

For one, I don't like Wise County. The natural resources are beautiful here but the social culture here is abysmal. People are largely uneducated and it shows in the way they act and think

Late, but I think we can all agree, at least as far as the people from Wise County we've had interactions with are concerned.

At one time it was accepted that a male X or Y chromosome determined the gender of a baby. Of course, biased scholarships, funded by a Patriarchal concept world. Guess what?! Now scholars say the woman's egg chooses the gender of the baby too!!

Fetal development is still dictated by the presence or absence of a Y chromosome.

No, I haven't overlooked anything. And Wassen's work is cited and well-regarded by Ilan.

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You are reading something into that conclusion that isn't there. The article is about a Jewish sect that prior to the discovery of the Qumran documents was believed were exclusively male. The "preconceived notions" she is referring to were the accounts of the Essenes by Josephus, Pliny and Philo who wrote that the Essenes were exclusively male. She states this in the introduction of the article:

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There is no concept of "gender equality" in the Qumran documents and Ilan doesn't claim she has found any such a thing. The Qumran documents show a presence of women in the Qumran community therefore it wasn't comprised exclusively of men. Since woman are present they must have defined roles and responsibilities--this doesn't equate to "gender equality".

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The women had their own hierarchy parallel to men. This is an important distinction. There were no women ruling over men and this is stated explicitly in the top highlight. Further, the existence of a parallel female hierarchy is an inference by Ilan on the basis of multiple fragmented pericopes. There is no explicit description of this female hierarchy. But even if we admit it it does not change the patriarchal nature of Qumranites.

On page 138-9 is Serekh ha-Edah (The Rule of Congregation) which is end of days gathering/messianic banquet. Everyone is included in this because the world is ending. It is instruction on preparation for the end of days and this includes purity concerns.

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You still don't understand. Fourth-wave feminism is based on Kimberlé Williams Crenshaw's silly idea of intersectionality. You should read about it before commenting. It has no relevance to Torah interpretation.

Your diligence and structurally sound arguments are no doubt welcomed by us other Kiwis, because they are educational in and of themselves. Echoing Deadpool however, I just fear very much that they are wasted here and would be more welcome in a lecture hall debate (though I can't imagine that any lecture past the first semester would include assertions from anyone similar to Melinda's. Heck, I've never seen anyone quote themselves as much as Melinda has, aside from maybe Arendt in some essay, where it was justified).

A couple of dozens of pages back I have attempted to engage Melinda genuinely on minor points, albeit in a field that I have had more reason to work with in academia and am therefore far more comfortable with. Her responses didn't differ all that much in substance - nitpicking, dismissive attitudes and reaffirming her stance. If you manage to carry on your style of posting, more power to you, we all benefit from it.

But frankly, at this point, I don't think Melinda's Ontology (what is real and how it can be perceived) and Epistemology (how is knowledge gained and what is truth and fact versus mere opinion) allow anyone to engage her genuinely.
I can see her ultimately throwing out Academia and discourse altogether if necessary and going back to knowledge as revelation (and revealed to her of course, by her particular reading of the Torah and possibly the touch of the almighty).

 

[A Cardboard Box]

You're talking about a guy who believes the earth is flat. I highly doubt he makes his choices on scholastic consensus or popular view.

Marshall read my papers before we married. Like I said before, we had a 90% agreement on theological/doctrine issues. That's why he picked me.

Our fights weren't about his or my beliefs. Especially because I never called myself "teacher" anyplace

You literally defended the flat earth theory when you were with him. Lmao.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Yes, there is. But I'm not going to show you those until you demonstrate the understanding of logic, facts and reason

"I was only pretending to be retarded! I am actually really smart! But until you meet my criteria of intellegence, I am going to keep on pretending that I am a retard!"

Nah, you're just sick fucks who believe that being evil is "normal".

Not in the least bit. All he did was try to deflect from the sentence, grasping at straws.

~Someone's peojecting~

There was nothing intelligent about his rebuttal

Eveeything about it was intelligent

In order to be jealous, there has to be love.

Not really. There are many types of jealousy, from many different emotions.

 

[Heckler1]

You literally defended the flat earth theory when you were with him. Lmao.

Inb4 she says she was only pretending to be retarded.

 

[Karl der Grosse]

Looks like I missed a busy night of Melinda Madposting. As for Marshall, I've already given Melinda my honest advice. If Marshall becomes violent or tries to rape you, defend yourself and your children with whatever amount of force is required. And, of course, call the cops.

 

[TamarYaelBatYah]

And, of course, call the cops.

If Marshall hit me I wouldn't call the cops.

I don't trust cops anymore than I trust you Goy

There's a lot more clever ways to deal with a man that would hit me. Like go make him live in his own house, all alone, living off of frozen burritos instead of my fabulous home cooking

See how many days he likes that before he realizes frozen burritos every day sucks

You literally defended the flat earth theory when you were with him. Lmao.

I never did any such thing.

I defended his right to believe what he wants.

I also didn't a answer directly what I believe about the shape of the earth. I have an opinion on this issue, I just didn't tell you it.

Fetal development is still dictated by the presence or absence of a Y chromosome.

That's old science.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2470289718787131?fbclid=IwAR3srV2wMucR409m5zNwRbeTPcDZd9aZ_hKDzQBf1nju84gJAtYObrY8t3U&

Ohhh? What's that? Scientists of the past with a Patriarchal bias are now being proven wrong by new scholars?

No, I haven't overlooked anything. And Wassen's work is cited and well-regarded by Ilan.

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You are reading something into that conclusion that isn't there. The article is about a Jewish sect that prior to the discovery of the Qumran documents was believed were exclusively male. The "preconceived notions" she is referring to were the accounts of the Essenes by Josephus, Pliny and Philo who wrote that the Essenes were exclusively male. She states this in the introduction of the article:

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There is no concept of "gender equality" in the Qumran documents and Ilan doesn't claim she has found any such a thing. The Qumran documents show a presence of women in the Qumran community therefore it wasn't comprised exclusively of men. Since woman are present they must have defined roles and responsibilities--this doesn't equate to "gender equality".

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The women had their own hierarchy parallel to men. This is an important distinction. There were no women ruling over men and this is stated explicitly in the top highlight. Further, the existence of a parallel female hierarchy is an inference by Ilan on the basis of multiple fragmented pericopes. There is no explicit description of this female hierarchy. But even if we admit it it does not change the patriarchal nature of Qumranites.

On page 138-9 is Serekh ha-Edah (The Rule of Congregation) which is end of days gathering/messianic banquet. Everyone is included in this because the world is ending. It is instruction on preparation for the end of days and this includes purity concerns.

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You still don't understand. Fourth-wave feminism is based on Kimberlé Williams Crenshaw's silly idea of intersectionality. You should read about it before commenting. It has no relevance to Torah interpretation.

And once again you deflect from the quote.

We aren't talking about Wassen and we aren't talking about Tal Ilan's overall beliefs.

Once again...

HOW did the DSS Qumran community come up with the idea that Unclean cannot marry their niece, even though it's not written into The Torah word for word? How did they reach this conclusion? How did they reach the conclusion of CD 5:9-12??

(This is your chance to think for yourself and do your own midrash)

"The rule of incest is written for males but applies equally to women" (CD 5:9-11)

 

[Burmese Rice Farmer]

If Marshall hit me I wouldn't call the cops.

I don't trust cops anymore than I trust you Goy

There's a lot more clever ways to deal with a man that would hit me. Like go make him live in his own house, all alone, living off of frozen burritos instead of my fabulous home cooking

See how many days he likes that before he realizes frozen burritos every day sucks

1. Frozen burritos are most likely a step up from your fucking vomit coated enchiladas.
2. What about that would stop him from being violent?
3. He's the moneymaker, what's stopping him from just not supporting your family and eating good shit himself?
4. What about that is clever to you? It's not a clever plan, it's fucking stupid.

The cops are definitely your best bet for safety, but in any case, this is all your fault for marrying an angry, violent, convicted felon.

 

[Spergichu]

If Marshall hit me I wouldn't call the cops.

I don't trust cops anymore than I trust you Goy

There's a lot more clever ways to deal with a man that would hit me. Like go make him live in his own house, all alone, living off of frozen burritos instead of my fabulous home cooking

See how many days he likes that before he realizes frozen burritos every day sucks

I'm sure he'll think a lot about those frozen burritos as he bludgeons you and your children with a baseball bat and as he torches your house. But good thing you didn't trust those evil goobermen police.

 

[Toasty]

So Melinda will call out fucking federal law against nameless people on a website for mean words, but not the cops when physically assaulted. Flawless logic.

 

[Sir Dank-a-Lot]

Marshall read my papers before we married.

I’m sure he did. They were probably written in crayon so they were easy for him to read.

 

[Toasty]

Aside from the fact that your comment is more internalized misogyny (an attempt to subvert another female), what makes you think Marshall didn't know what I believed before he married me?

My calling you out on your bullshit is not internalized misogyny. According to that idea any female on female criticism is an "attempt to subvert another female."
I do think that Marshall envisioned a much different life when he opted to move all the way back east than the one he got with you. More fool him for leaping without looking. Did you tell him that you were a successful author or some shit, and supported your family that way? I just can't see a sovcit type who wants zero government intrusion in his life hitching on to a woman who would be completely nonfunctional without the nanny state, and her partner, big daddy government.

 

[Sir Dank-a-Lot]

If Marshall hit me I wouldn't call the cops.

I don't trust cops anymore than I trust you Goy

There's a lot more clever ways to deal with a man that would hit me. Like go make him live in his own house, all alone, living off of frozen burritos instead of my fabulous home cooking

See how many days he likes that before he realizes frozen burritos every day sucks






I never did any such thing.

I defended his right to believe what he wants.

I also didn't a answer directly what I believe about the shape of the earth. I have an opinion on this issue, I just didn't tell you it.

















That's old science.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2470289718787131?fbclid=IwAR3srV2wMucR409m5zNwRbeTPcDZd9aZ_hKDzQBf1nju84gJAtYObrY8t3U&

Ohhh? What's that? Scientists of the past with a Patriarchal bias are now being proven wrong by new scholars?










And once again you deflect from the quote.

We aren't talking about Wassen and we aren't talking about Tal Ilan's overall beliefs.

Once again...

HOW did the DSS Qumran community come up with the idea that Unclean cannot marry their niece, even though it's not written into The Torah word for word? How did they reach this conclusion? How did they reach the conclusion of CD 5:9-12??

(This is your chance to think for yourself and do your own midrash)

"The rule of incest is written for males but applies equally to women" (CD 5:9-11)


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So why is it that CyrusKissFanClub sounds like an actual scholar and you don’t? Because they are, and you’re not. NEXT.

 

[Spergetti]

If Marshall hit me I wouldn't call the cops.

I don't trust cops anymore than I trust you Goy

There's a lot more clever ways to deal with a man that would hit me. Like go make him live in his own house, all alone, living off of frozen burritos instead of my fabulous home cooking

See how many days he likes that before he realizes frozen burritos every day sucks

Maybe having a retard like Marshall beat the fuck out of you would actually help you in the long run. Maybe it would knock whatever loose screws you have back into place, or at least give you a much needed attitude adjustment.

 

[Bloitzhole]

At one time it was accepted that a male X or Y chromosome determined the gender of a baby. Of course, biased scholarships, funded by a Patriarchal concept world. Guess what?! Now scholars say the woman's egg chooses the gender of the baby too!!

Fetal development is still dictated by the presence or absence of a Y chromosome.

That's old science.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/fu...m5zNwRbeTPcDZd9aZ_hKDzQBf1nju84gJAtYObrY8t3U&
Ohhh? What's that? Scientists of the past with a Patriarchal bias are now being proven wrong by new scholars?

I don't know if you actually read the article you linked. It's been cited only 4 times since its publication in 2018 and it's not making the claim that this is how it actually works - it calls itself a hypothesis (a hypothesis yet to be proven, though not an entirely unsubstantiated one) and a model offering a different perspective (it is also published in a niche "gender and genome" journal with a low impact factor - though this in and of itself does not invalidate its model of course - it's just that almost no one has acknowledged it).
It also doesn't argue in any way against my statement that the presence or absence of a Y chromosome dictates how the fetus develops.
It merely states that the X chromosome could be contributed by the mother, which might be sensible hypothesis worth exploring. But whether it's a boy or girl is still dictated by the presence or absence of a Y chromosome. No Y chromosome - gal. Still, was a pretty interesting read.

 

[Kosher Salt]

You're not professional enough to work at a fucking McDonalds.

Forget about professionalism; I don't think she's intelligent enough to work at a fucking McDonalds.

You're talking about a guy who believes the earth is flat. I highly doubt he makes his choices on scholastic consensus or popular view.

You believe that diseases are caused by 4-dimensional spirits.

 

[TamarYaelBatYah]

I don't know if you actually read the article you linked. It's been cited only 4 times since its publication in 2018 and it's not making the claim that this is how it actually works - it calls itself a hypothesis (a hypothesis yet to be proven, though not an entirely unsubstantiated one) and a model offering a different perspective (it is also published in a niche "gender and genome" journal with a low impact factor - though this in and of itself does not invalidate its model of course - it's just that almost no one has acknowledged it).
It also doesn't argue in any way against my statement that the presence or absence of a Y chromosome dictates how the fetus develops.
It merely states that the X chromosome could be contributed by the mother, which might be sensible hypothesis worth exploring. But whether it's a boy or girl is still dictated by the presence or absence of a Y chromosome. No Y chromosome - gal. Still, was a pretty interesting read.

Yes, I did read it. It says the mother decides gender too (throughout biological processes)

"This resulted in a paradigm shift in our understanding of sex determination, as both parents were found to be equally responsible for determining the sex of the offspring"

My calling you out on your bullshit is not internalized misogyny. According to that idea any female on female criticism is an "attempt to subvert another female."
I do think that Marshall envisioned a much different life when he opted to move all the way back east than the one he got with you. More fool him for leaping without looking. Did you tell him that you were a successful author or some shit, and supported your family that way? I just can't see a sovcit type who wants zero government intrusion in his life hitching on to a woman who would be completely nonfunctional without the nanny state, and her partner, big daddy government.

It's completely inernalized misogyny. The fact that you even think you need to critique our relationship issues speaks volumes. I see every other person on this thread focusing on theological debate and you and the other chic with internalized misogyny jump on what you see as an opinion to subvert a female. Typical Goy

Marshall is a socialist, you're point is moot. He's also an Israelite, he doesn't weigh a woman by her income, that's a Goy thing

He's the moneymaker, what's stopping him from just not supporting your family and eating good shit himself?
4. What about that is clever to you? It's not a clever plan, it's fucking stupid.

Because my cooking skills are better than what he can find in restaurants

And because he always calls me up after a fight complaining about how he doesn't like the taste of restaurant food and fast food compared to my cooking

It's worked plenty of times

Frozen burritos are most likely a step up from your fucking vomit coated enchiladas.

I'm surprised someone who isn't Anglo would remark on darker color foods. Western cultures photograph brightly colored lighter food. Eastern cultures tend to favor darker colored foods.

American (USA) ideal food....

Eastern cultures....