Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[WhimsicalTrolli]

That'll look good in court.
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Well just sue him already...don't waste time on the farms. Get his ex-wife's boyfriends pizza and grind him to the dust. Statue of limitations probably expired or expiring by now.

 

[FROG]

I'm fairly sure there are precedents for hijacking a group and twisting it's ideals to your own benefit, while still claiming original clarity of purpose. Stalinism suggests itself. Televangelists. Yoko Ono...

That's so negative. I'm more akin to Abraham Lincoln, Elvis Presley, or Jesus Christ.

Something was happening, and I came and organized it, popularized it, and became a martyr to it. Richard C. Meyer did the exact same thing. People flocked to him because he was charismatic and a good spokesperson for how they were feeling. He openly and cheerfully sought to profit from that with this crowdfunds and superchats, but people like you and your friends eventually discouraged him with your psychosis, and he backed away from it.

I don't mind your psychosis. I'll stick around.

ComicsGate wasn't a group, it was a reaction to what the far left was doing to the comics industry.

It BECAME a group when I put together a bunch of disaffected comics creators to build a way of fighting back. Many split off into apostasy and failure because they disagreed with me about my singular divinity. Same thing happened to Lincoln, Elvis and Jesus. But most people still agree with me, enjoy my show, and see me as having created the most popular reaction to SJWs in comics.

You're allowed to disagree with popularity. You're allowed to be wrong.

ComicsGate is still around because of me. Believe it or not, you're still allowed to do what you were doing before I became the most popular voice in ComicsGate. Many of those original ComicsGaters still are.

Almost nobody cares though. And maybe that's the real problem here.

 

[Absurdity]

In otherwords there was never truly a Comicsgate, only the Sciververse brought to you by Dynamite. You did call yourself a conservative multiple times through your lying throat sac. That's the thing about frogs: they go both ways!

 

[Brother Maynard]

In otherwords there was never truly a Comicsgate, only the Sciververse brought to you by Dynamite. You did call yourself a conservative multiple times through your lying throat sac. That's the thing about frogs: they go both ways!

Dude is straight out of 1984. Memory holes the founders and the facts. He who controls the past controls the future. He's modeled himself after every socialist villain in history while pretending to be a conservative. The irony is thick, and his followers are blind.

 

[Smug Freiza]

Jon of the Rice being a dick again. (Is it "again" if he's never stopped?)

I haven't watched a Doug Ernst video in months, but he seems to still be doing his thing--culture war-type reviews. He's got a new book coming out. He's pretty focused.

So today JDA (maybe Jon Del Antos, because he's such a bitch?) decided to pick a fight with Ernst on behalf of Napalm Brothers, a comic that looks like this:

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Pretty awful. Bad storytelling, brutal figures, dreadful hands. But if Jon of the Rice wants to promote it, it's his choice. He's also currently pushing a couple of books of his own that're gonna look like this:

Spoiler: AYFKM, JDA?

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He's got his panties in a wad because Ernst won't promote Napalm Brothers. For comparisons sake, Ernst's book looks like this:
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Not my thing, but clear, readable, & professional-looking, with solid drawing. Is it any wonder he won't diminish his reputation promoting inferior books?

Senor of the Rice will brook no disagreements in his holy culture war (which is accurately assessed by anti-CG Pointman Comics as "a typical pissing contest")
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I don't remember what issues Doug & EVS have, but I appreciate that they can both see through JDA.

ETA: wtf happened to the "Preview Post" button? I'm posting blind here!

This is @TheCosmicWarrior's standard behavior, cry victim that he's being deplatformed or blacklisted because people don't want to associate with him. He's been crying the same rhetoric about Doug TenNapel and Mike S Miller for several months now. Then more recently he tried to hire some antifa artist to work with him, but the guy refused due to Jon's politics, Jon then sperged out about being blacklisted. Jon serious question, why would you want to work with an antifa artist to begin with?

As for Soulfinder I highly recommend it, the book was fantastic. It was a more mature, supernatural, detective style story touching on religious themes, without coming across preachy or self righteous. The art by Tim Lim was great, the coloring by Brett R Smith outstanding and it received rave reviews even from Comicsgater's like Just Some Guy and Warcampaign's Ro Kabir. The sequel is being drawn by Matt Weldon I believe, if a two pack with the original book is available during the campaign I highly recommend picking it up.

 

[FROG]

In otherwords there was never truly a Comicsgate, only the Sciververse brought to you by Dynamite. You did call yourself a conservative multiple times through your lying throat sac. That's the thing about frogs: they go both ways!

Well, I AM a Conservative. But that doesn't mean comics should be partisan Right leaning. Comic creators should seek to sell comics to everyone, in order to make the most money possible, so that they can be a self-sustaining industry that doesn't need to sell itself to Hollywood and large umbrella corporations to survive. That attitude in itself projects that Conservative business practices are superior to people wondering why comics suck right now.

It's awesome how you never understood what Zack was saying all these years.

Dude is straight out of 1984. Memory holes the founders and the facts. He who controls the past controls the future. He's modeled himself after every socialist villain in history while pretending to be a conservative. The irony is thick, and his followers are blind.

The "founders" memory holed themselves. They aren't saying or doing things that appeal to large masses of people, so they're lame and nobody gives a shit but you. I owe them zero. If they were at all good at what they do (whining about Marvel Comics being gay) they'd have more viewers and more influence, and I'd be anxious to have them on my channel. But they're boring and stupid.

Zack, Just Some Guy and Doug Ernst are great, however.

Go enjoy their videos.

 

[Brother Maynard]

The "founders" memory holed themselves. They aren't saying or doing things that appeal to large masses of people, so they're lame and nobody gives a shit but you. I owe them zero. If they were at all good at what they do (whining about Marvel Comics being gay) they'd have more viewers and more influence, and I'd be anxious to have them on my channel. But they're boring and stupid.

Zack, Just Some Guy and Doug Ernst are great, however.

Go enjoy their videos.

They all (Zack included) gave you credibility when you started your Youtube channel. You joined THEIR movement, and they appreciated a pro coming into THEIR space and waiving THEIR banner. That gained you thousands, maybe tens of thousands of subs (what was Zack up to, 40K subs at that point?) that were OGCG. You glommed onto Fandom Menace and grew your channel, outpacing Zack with SW nerds who bought your fake geek outrage (him hobbling himself from being himself because of the lawsuit didn't help).


And then you dumped on all of them as being useless to your vision of the movement you joined and then usurped. My hats off to you, you're a great grifter. And you're laughing all the way to the bank.

But you are a fraud in every possible sense of the word.

I would hate to have to wonder if the people around me would still 'like' me if it weren't for the fact that being around me made them money. No wonder you don't even call Jon Malin a friend. You don't know what a friend is. I feel sorry for you. Enjoy your money, It's all you've got.

That also explains why the people who can't be bought turn their backs on you after seeing who you really are.

 

[FROG]

They all (Zack included) gave you credibility when you started your Youtube channel. You joined THEIR movement, and they appreciated a pro coming into THEIR space and waiving THEIR banner. That gained you thousands, maybe tens of thousands of subs (what was Zack up to, 40K subs at that point?) that were OGCG. You glommed onto Fandom Menace and grew your channel, outpacing Zack with SW nerds who bought your fake geek outrage (him hobbling himself from being himself because of the lawsuit didn't help).


And then you dumped on all of them as being useless to your vision of the movement you joined and then usurped. My hats off to you, you're a great grifter. And you're laughing all the way to the bank.

But you are a fraud in every possible sense of the word.

I would hate to have to wonder if the people around me would still 'like' me if it weren't for the fact that being around me made them money. No wonder you don't even call Jon Malin a friend. You don't know what a friend is. I feel sorry for you. Enjoy your money, It's all you've got.

That also explains why the people who can't be bought turn their backs on you after seeing who you really are.

#ComicsGate was the situation created when the Radical Left invaded comics and clashed with non-leftist creators and customers. Nobody owned it.

I was affected by this situation and had to leave my job. I organized other pros to crowdfund indie comics through a mutual network, and I called that "ComicsGate" to neutralize the term.

This is my new job. I am in this entirely for money. ComicsGate is a means by which I and other creators can escape the gatekeeping of SJWs in order to sell our comics and make money.

Since I am successful at turning discussion of SJWs into entertainment, I receive money for this. Superchats and comic sales.

I am not in this to make friends. People I talk to on the internet are not necessarily my friends, nor do I care if they "still like me" or not. I'm not a girl. I care that they share my purpose. If they do share my purpose, and we can do business together, they will also make money with my help. If that isn't the case, we part ways, and fuck 'em.

Some have become actual friends. Zack, Cecil and Jon Malin have become real life friends. Others remain business associates or allies. I have a life off the internet.

No one gave me "credibility." I earned what credibility I have through 25 years in mainstream comics and a consistent message for 3 years on YouTube.

Zack and others lent me their platform, so that I could be heard. I now lend mine to other people. That's how YouTube channels grow.

All of this has amounted to me earning $3.1 million in two years. Since that is what I am seeking, I will enjoy it.

It's not all I've got. I have a family, friends outside of Comics, a big house, a pool, a luxury vehicle, a successful franchise in CYBERFROG, and a bright future helping other creators do what I've done.

 

[CapeKnight]

This "Usurper" narrative you guys keep pushing is actually pretty retarded if you break it down to what it is.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

That's so negative. I'm more akin to Abraham Lincoln, Elvis Presley, or Jesus Christ.

You joke, but we already know you have a god complex.

Richard C. Meyer did the exact same thing. People flocked to him because he was charismatic and a good spokesperson for how they were feeling. He openly and cheerfully sought to profit from that with this crowdfunds... but people like you and your friends eventually discouraged him with your psychosis, and he backed away from it.

Beg pardon? Chased him away from crowdfunding? How many of his crappy topical/not-topical books was he trying to fund at the same time, until very recently?

But most people still agree with me, enjoy my show, and see me as having created the most popular reaction to SJWs in comics.

All based on them going "hurrr!" at your obsession over Rose Tico and chopping up Captain Marvel dolls. A strategy so successful that it looks like even RLM noticed you.

You're allowed to disagree with popularity. You're allowed to be wrong.

Argumentum ad Populum? 'Popular' is not synonymous with 'good'. Weak trolling.

Well, I AM a Conservative. But that doesn't mean comics should be partisan Right leaning.

Very few were asking for that. It's not that you don't make comics screeching about AOC or Joe Biden, it's that you turned on so many of your personal comicsgate principles and 'allies' after loudly and proudly praising them from the rooftops.

Comic creators should seek to sell comics to everyone, in order to make the most money possible, so that they can be a self-sustaining industry that doesn't need to sell itself to Hollywood and large umbrella corporations to survive. That attitude in itself projects that Conservative business practices are superior to people wondering why comics suck right now.

It's awesome how you never understood what Zack was saying all these years.

The "founders" memory holed themselves. They aren't saying or doing things that appeal to large masses of people, so they're lame and nobody gives a shit but you. I owe them zero. If they were at all good at what they do (whining about Marvel Comics being gay) they'd have more viewers and more influence, and I'd be anxious to have them on my channel. But they're boring and stupid.

Zack, Just Some Guy and Doug Ernst are great, however.

Go enjoy their videos.

I wonder, if Zack's 'conservative business practises' continue to fail and his next couple of crowdfunders continue the downward trajectory, will he still be 'charismatic' and 'great', and will you still exhort us to watch his videos? Without WC in your pocket, will it be harder to orchestrate some gay op to cut him off from the purity of CG?

A page ago there was a long list of most of the bumbling fools still in CG and just how successful their business practises are. They're not the only ones who turned books out late, eh, Eehee? But despite your own bumbling you're at the top of a very short list of CGers who got the money, got the books out, and have your sheep baahing for more mediocre frog adventures. You got your cheddar, so that obviously means CG as a whole just works.

 

[FROG]

You joke, but we already know you have a god complex.



Beg pardon? Chased him away from crowdfunding? How many of his crappy topical/not-topical books was he trying to fund at the same time, until very recently?



All based on them going "hurrr!" at your obsession over Rose Tico and chopping up Captain Marvel dolls. A strategy so successful that it looks like even RLM noticed you.



Argumentum ad Populum? 'Popular' is not synonymous with 'good'. Weak trolling.



Very few were asking for that. It's not that you don't make comics screeching about AOC or Joe Biden, it's that you turned on so many of your personal comicsgate principles and 'allies' after loudly and proudly praising them from the rooftops.



I wonder, if Zack's 'conservative business practises' continue to fail and his next couple of crowdfunders continue the downward trajectory, will he still be 'charismatic' and 'great', and will you still exhort us to watch his videos? Without WC in your pocket, will it be harder to orchestrate some gay op to cut him off from the purity of CG?

A page ago there was a long list of most of the bumbling fools still in CG and just how successful their business practises are. They're not the only ones who turned books out late, eh, Eehee? But despite your own bumbling you're at the top of a very short list of CGers who got the money, got the books out, and have your sheep baahing for more mediocre frog adventures. You got your cheddar, so that obviously means CG as a whole just works.

So much negativity! Just a few points line by line.

-It's hard not to have a God complex. John Lennon had it right when he said the Beatles were bigger than Jesus. I now know exactly what he was saying.

-I meant that Zack was chased from livestreaming and direct interaction with his customer base by psychos like you. The videos are okay, but for the amount of books he's launching, he needs to be dealing with his public directly. He knows this.

-I don't think I've ever said, "hurrrr!" I say "uh..." alot though. I've made thousands of videos. Cut up a Rose Tico figure once and that's what people are still talking about! Incredible.

-Popular is synonymous with "well liked" and that's a good thing when selling a product. "Good" is an implicit assessment made by those people who are buying the product. Who cares what you think if you aren't buying it?

-I've turned on ZERO ComicsGate principles that I've espoused.

-Zack's doing okay. He needs to livestream, and produce fewer, better comics with commerciality like JAWBREAKERS. That's my opinion. Everyone tries different things and sometimes it doesn't work out. Zack doing bi-monthly short topical comic stories isn't the best use of his energy, if he wants to make money.

-I don't care about "The Purity of CG." That's a WC thing, which as you mentioned, are no longer allies of mine because of conflicts stemming from that very reason.

-That list of CGers who have failed to get their books out is eye opening. It's a lot of work to do a graphic novel all by yourself.

-CYBERFROG is excellent. A cultural touchstone.

-I got my money, that means that people should probably do what I do and listen to me.

It's okay though, Newman's Lovechild. Lots of people didn't recognize the importance of Jesus, Elvis or Lincoln in their days either.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

Senor of the Rice will brook no disagreements in his holy culture war (which is accurately assessed by anti-CG Pointman Comics as "a typical pissing contest")

This'll put Ernst in his place...

https://twitter.com/jondelarroz/status/1320496122347966465

I wonder who Ernst has told not to associate with JDA?

 

[Caradoc Rexious]

That's so negative. I'm more akin to Abraham Lincoln, Elvis Presley, or Jesus Christ.

No you're more akin to Jim Jones and Comicsgate is your Jonestown. You've managed to convince a few thousand people to cut themselves off from the Comics Industry and only buy Comicsgate, the consumer equivalent of cult devotees cutting themselves off from friends and family. In the real world most people don't know who you are and those that do easily see through your bullshit, so really you're more like Jim Jones or L. Ron Hubbard

 

[FROG]

No you're more akin to Jim Jones and Comicsgate is your Jonestown. You've managed to convince a few thousand people to cut themselves off from the Comics Industry and only buy Comicsgate, the consumer equivalent of cult devotees cutting themselves off from friends and family. In the real world most people don't know who you are and those that do easily see through your bullshit, so really you're more like Jim Jones or L. Ron Hubbard

Good enough!

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

One addition to earlier: I came in late to comicsgate, @FROG. I think Captain Cummings had run off before I even arrived. The only OGCGer I followed was Zack, and only because you talked about him.
Everything I know about comicsgate, I learned from watching you. That's why I'm here.

This "Usurper" narrative you guys keep pushing is actually pretty retarded if you break it down to what it is.

Long answer: I wouldn't say 'usurper', but 'false prophet' sounds worse.

Short answer: break it down or BTFO.

 

[CapeKnight]

Long answer: I wouldn't say 'usurper', but 'false prophet' sounds worse.

Short answer: break it down or BTFO.

"Waaaah Ethan kicked people I liked out of the movement!!! Must a-log on Kiwifarms years after and still haunting the movement like a ghost!"

If the people who were thrown aside had any merit in them, they should be doing relatively fine, business wise. Ethan came in, saw a good chance to make some money, and did just that, with a product that is pretty much discount TMNT, not exactly a good indication of the crowd's intelligence that buys it. Sitting around CG as a movement and barking around it instead of going to make your own movement to one up it and prove it wrong seems rather telling.

Doug, Mike, and a lot of other creators seem to be doing just fine outside of CG, each going their own way and using whatever means they can muster. Just like Ethan has his psychophants, don't you think what all the rest that you're doing is just retardedly obsessive over repeating stupid "gotcha" points over and over and over again like a broken record? How many more times do I need to read this stupid back and forth recounting or mis-recounting of the Black Glove incident each time Tim Lim's name comes up?

If you can't survive TUG's gayops, you should just fuck off. The need to obsess over CG and blame everything on Ethan is understandable at first for someone who is just hearing about all of this and knows that Ethan uses the word ComicsGate interchangeably with himself from time to time, but once you sober up from a-logging drunkenness, you can actually look at the current state of pros coming into the scene as a pretty big improvement. Would any of these people who just sat back and made YouTube videos complaining about SJWs have gone onto make books if it wasn't for pros coming in to show it can be done as well as lend their credibility in the industry as a sign of good faith? Character assessment aside, despite his inherent narcissism, the fact that more and more pros are joining CG might actually be a good thing. Below sub par "comic creator" like Wenger and Adam Post have already been BTFO'd.

I don't like Ethan, but like I've said many times already, I'm not gonna start slinging shit that isn't true just because I have some stupid hate boner I can't get rid of. I've heard enough conspiracies and petty grievances from the rejects already, and it's not like I don't throw shit at Ethan when it's valid.

The "culture war" was already lost the moment someone like Doug TenNapel has to come out and say that every company is an SJW company. Good luck on that front, your best bet is to now infiltrate and take it back and that's gonna be years to undo this post-modernist mentality that gave rise to them. Then, you have a movement like ComicsGate that is half soy half based, but it's still a front that actually has a chance to make some impact, if only utter useless abject retards who aren't funny like Cecil isn't around to take up space, but that's part of EVS's character flaw, is that he takes too long to realize some people just don't have the merit to stick around. Look at how long it took him to ditch WC. Dude's a slow learner. Just because things don't change as fast as you'd like it to, doesn't mean it's inherently bad. I just chalk it to Ethan being full of himself, and that lead to a bunch of bad decisions, but these problems soon worked themselves out and we got the ever-entertaining IBS Liamstream out of it. Either ways, if you want to nitpick little things here and there, be my guest, but don't expect to be taken seriously at all. Ethan's trolled Brother Maynard here for a while now who takes every response too seriously, looking for some stupid gotcha.

 

[FROG]

"Waaaah Ethan kicked people I liked out of the movement!!! Must a-log on Kiwifarms years after and still haunting the movement like a ghost!"

If the people who were thrown aside had any merit in them, they should be doing relatively fine, business wise. Ethan came in, saw a good chance to make some money, and did just that, with a product that is pretty much discount TMNT, not exactly a good indication of the crowd's intelligence that buys it. Sitting around CG as a movement and barking around it instead of going to make your own movement to one up it and prove it wrong seems rather telling.

Doug, Mike, and a lot of other creators seem to be doing just fine outside of CG, each going their own way and using whatever means they can muster. Just like Ethan has his psychophants, don't you think what all the rest that you're doing is just retardedly obsessive over repeating stupid "gotcha" points over and over and over again like a broken record? How many more times do I need to read this stupid back and forth recounting or mis-recounting of the Black Glove incident each Tim Lim's name comes up?

If you can't survive TUG's gayops, you should just fuck off. The need to obsess over CG and blame everything on Ethan is understandable at first for someone who is just hearing about all of this and knows that Ethan uses the word ComicsGate interchangeably with himself from time to time, but once you sober up from a-logging drunkenness, you can actually look at the current state of pros coming into the scene as a pretty big improvement. Would any of these people who just sat back and made YouTube videos complaining about SJWs have gone onto make books if it wasn't for pros coming in to show it can be done as well as lend their credibility in the industry as a sign of good faith? Character assessment aside, despite his inherent narcissism, the fact that more and more pros are joining CG might actually be a good thing. Below sub par "comic creator" like Wenger and Adam Post have already been BTFO'd.

I don't like Ethan, but like I've said many times already, I'm not gonna start slinging shit that isn't true just because I have some stupid hate boner I can't get rid of. I've heard enough conspiracies and petty grievances from the rejects already, and it's not like I don't throw shit at Ethan when it's valid.

The "culture war" was already lost the moment someone like Doug TenNapel has to come out and say that every company is an SJW company. Good luck on that front, your best bet is to now infiltrate and take it back and that's gonna be years to undo this post-modernist mentality that gave rise to them. Then, you have a movement like ComicsGate that is half soy half based, but it's still a front that actually has a chance to make some impact, if only utter useless abject retards who aren't funny like Cecil isn't around to take up space, but that's part of EVS's character flaw, is that he takes too long to realize some people just don't have the merit to stick around. Look at how long it took him to ditch WC. Dude's a slow learner. Just because things don't change as fast as you'd like it to, doesn't mean it's inherently bad. I just chalk it to Ethan being full of himself, and that lead to a bunch of bad decisions, but these problems soon worked themselves out and we got the ever-entertaining IBS Liamstream out of it. Either ways, if you want to nitpick little things here and there, be my guest, but don't expect to be taken seriously at all. Ethan's trolled Brother Maynard here for a while now who takes every response too seriously, looking for some stupid gotcha.

Even though this is written as though an illiterate retard is typing during a seizure, this is mostly correct. In theme.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

Even though this is written as though an illiterate retard is typing during a seizure, this is mostly correct. In theme.

I'll take your word for it. I just rated it autistic and moved on.

 

[Smug Freiza]

Personally I think Ethan has made a lot of good moves lately, sure I used to bust his chops several months ago, but I never had a hate boner for the guy.

He finally ditched Warcampaign after people were telling him for nearly two years to do so, now those guys are basically irrelevant because they bit the hand that fed them. You never hear of internal drama in CG anymore because those guys are gone, which might bring back old Comicsgate customers who left because of them.

He advised Liam against flagging SWC, despite SWC being critics of both him and Liam.

Although he disagrees with the amount Donal should pay Nasser, he does agree that Nasser should be paid.

He called out Mitch Breitweiser for how late Red Rooster is and that he should get the book done and into the hands of his customers.

Then there's the added value to backers he's offering with increased page counts, bonus comics and a free toy on Rekt Planet and the absolute bargain of the Warts and All campaign.

Objectively speaking Ethan has made a lot of good decisions lately and it's hard to find things to criticize him for, but maybe that's just me.

EDIT: Oh and he brought in more pro's like Shane Davis, Graham Nolan and Kenneth Rocafort which fill the void of Mike S Miller, Mitch Breitweiser and Doug TenNapel leaving.

 

[CapeKnight]

Even though this is written as though an illiterate retard is typing during a seizure, this is mostly correct. In theme.

Fair play, we've all gotta be autistic to a degree to have an account here.