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Looks like there's one more round of China-related drama ahead for Hololive. Should just be an especially violent death throe since the group is no longer coming back, but it's not going to be pretty.

There seemed to be a revitalized influx of dislikes on Coco's videos after the initial wave died down. Turns out, nationalists have begun rallying behind Aqua, believing her to be secretly in support of getting rid of Coco since she was the only one of two who didn't mention her name in recent tweets. They actually took it pretty hard when Cover as a whole decided to completely pull from China, considering the company to be traitorous for letting all their support for the group go to waste in search for less hostile pastures. In a way, they aren't wrong; Hololive was a fledgling little thing in the beginning that was struggling to go anywhere. Sora's very first stream opened up to a rip-roaring audience of... 13 viewers. It is actually thanks to the work of translators on Billibilli and exclusive streams that Hololive was able to initially garner a presence, with translated clips reaching across the internet. The group wouldn't have become the massive powerhouse it is now without its partnership with Billibilli.

However, Chinese viewers always had an axe to grind with Coco. Not only did she not have a Billibilli account, but she's famous for deliberately pushing the limit with permissible Hololive content and becoming an unofficial ambassador of the brand for the overseas audience thanks to her command of the English language. Her accidentally mentioning Taiwan was the last evidence they needed to fully believe she was anti-China and thus must be purged. So, as we all know, they gave Cover an ultimatum when that shitstorm happened: either she goes, or they go. Problem is, according to calculations Billibilli donations nowadays only bring in about 5% of Cover's total revenue, whereas Coco has been topping the charts as one the most popular female superchat earners, if not the most. Not only that, her popularity with overseas fans and close friendships with the other idol girls pretty much made her almost as much of a bedrock to Hololive as their producer, YAGOO. The suspension itself had already damaged Cover's reputation across the world - if she is fired, there will be Riots with a capital R. So of course Cover decided to cut the cord that they could go without nowadays.

Which brings me back to Aqua, who is now seeing an increase in subscribers from the latter even though Cover is already lighting the bridge on fire and never looking back. Nationalists are hoping she is on their side, because she was supposed to have a China-exclusive event that is now cancelled for obvious reasons, featuring a music cover that has just been released on her Billibilli account. Nationalists are taking this and her lack of directly mentioning Coco on Twitter as a sign that she is supporting their crusade to drag Hololive's name into the mud.

Here's the thing about Aqua though; she is an incredibly meek and introverted person. She's such a nervous wreck that she has admitted that she can't even speak to waiters to take her order, relying on her friends to help her out. Furthermore, she's one of the least proficient members at the English language, and the song cover she was doing was a Chinese/English mix that also contained some rap, so she had been spending a long time trying to perform it perfectly in anticipation for the event. The music cover appearing on her account was a case of not wanting to let all that hard work go to waste, while also serving as a final parting gift for Hololive's remaining CN fans.

Unfortunately for the nationalists now seeing her as their Jeanne d'Arc, in all likelihood Coco and Aqua are on good terms. Aqua has ironically gotten into trouble with Billibilli fans before, again due to circumstances beyond her control (something regarding a mistranslated schedule?), where she was forced to make an official apology to tide things over. Coco shortly afterwards did a collab stream with her, where she consoled the girl and discussed about how there will always be a 1%+ in the audience that will hate your guts, no matter how big your fanbase gets, or how hard you try to appease everyone. Aqua being quiet on the subject was likely her way of just wanting to exit the scene as softly as possible, which unfortunately won't be happening for the next two weeks.

The fun part about this is that in other circumstances they would have succeeded, the thing was Vchubbing is now a international thing like anime, if the entire thing was still a niche japanese thing if would probably have worked, the problem is that the western fandom became so huge that China doesn't have the manpower or the simp money (they CANT superchat) to control the wave of autism, Coco comeback went without any issues because the simps were watching like hawks for any stench of communism, they also tried to stir shit with Fubuki and were BTFO, now they have to seethe because lost their own Holos and did not succeed in yeeting Coco

but also that that she has as much respect for Coco as anyone else.
You can also use Coco as example of how subscriber counts doesn't matter, she and Rushia are the top earners and Coco has now a position where if she wanted she could create more branchs of Holos, there is a joke that if she keep singing despacito Hololive Spanish would become a thing
 
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Looks like there's one more round of China-related drama ahead for Hololive. Should just be an especially violent death throe since the group is no longer coming back, but it's not going to be pretty.

There seemed to be a revitalized influx of dislikes on Coco's videos after the initial wave died down. Turns out, nationalists have begun rallying behind Aqua, believing her to be secretly in support of getting rid of Coco since she was the only one of two who didn't mention her name in recent tweets. They actually took it pretty hard when Cover as a whole decided to completely pull from China, considering the company to be traitorous for letting all their support for the group go to waste in search for less hostile pastures. In a way, they aren't wrong; Hololive was a fledgling little thing in the beginning that was struggling to go anywhere. Sora's very first stream opened up to a rip-roaring audience of... 13 viewers. It is actually thanks to the work of translators on Bilibili and exclusive streams that Hololive was able to initially garner a presence, with translated clips reaching across the internet. The group wouldn't have become the massive powerhouse it is now without its partnership with Bilibili.

However, Chinese viewers always had an axe to grind with Coco. Not only did she not have a Bilibili account, but she's famous for deliberately pushing the limit with permissible Hololive content and becoming an unofficial ambassador of the brand for the overseas audience thanks to her command of the English language. Her accidentally mentioning Taiwan was the last evidence they needed to fully believe she was anti-China and thus must be purged. So, as we all know, they gave Cover an ultimatum when that shitstorm happened: either she goes, or they go. Problem is, according to calculations Bilibili donations nowadays only bring in about 5% of Cover's total revenue, whereas Coco has been topping the charts as one the most popular female superchat earners, if not the most. Not only that, her popularity with overseas fans and close friendships with the other idol girls pretty much made her almost as much of a bedrock to Hololive as their producer, YAGOO. The suspension itself had already damaged Cover's reputation across the world - if she is fired, there will be Riots with a capital R. So of course Cover decided to cut the cord that they could go without nowadays.

Which brings me back to Aqua, who is now seeing an increase in subscribers from the latter even though Cover is already lighting the bridge on fire and never looking back. Nationalists are hoping she is on their side, because she was supposed to have a China-exclusive event that is now cancelled for obvious reasons, featuring a music cover that has just been released on her Bilibili account. Nationalists are taking this and her lack of directly mentioning Coco on Twitter as a sign that she is supporting their crusade to drag Hololive's name into the mud.

Here's the thing about Aqua though; she is an incredibly meek and introverted person. She's such a nervous wreck that she has admitted that she can't even speak to waiters to take her order, relying on her friends to help her out. Furthermore, she's one of the least proficient members at the English language, and the song cover she was doing was a Chinese/English mix that also contained some rap, so she had been spending a long time trying to perform it perfectly in anticipation for the event. The music cover appearing on her account was a case of not wanting to let all that hard work go to waste, while also serving as a final parting gift for Hololive's remaining CN fans.

Unfortunately for the nationalists now seeing her as their Jeanne d'Arc, in all likelihood Coco and Aqua are on good terms. Aqua has ironically gotten into trouble with Bilibili fans before, again due to circumstances beyond her control (something regarding a mistranslated schedule?), where she was forced to make an official apology to tide things over. Coco shortly afterwards did a collab stream with her, where she consoled the girl and discussed about how there will always be a 1%+ in the audience that will hate your guts, no matter how big your fanbase gets, or how hard you try to appease everyone. Aqua being quiet on the subject was likely her way of just wanting to exit the scene as softly as possible, which unfortunately won't be happening for the next two weeks.
What the fuck is the chink's major malfunction? "Aqua doesn't @ Coco = she H8s her"?! I just... :story:
 
Remember being like, 13-14, having a crush in school, finally getting to talk to the girl that first time in a group, and you're like "she didn't call me a faggot or insult my weird shoes*" and thinking she liked you despite absolutely no actual signs to back it up? This is just like that. The national maturity level in China must be that of a 13 year old.

*FYI I was imagining those old 1990's Converse that had that goo in the toe that changed color when you poked it, so take that into your mental imagery.
 
Same, I hope Cover has someone employed to take note of the recent delusional CCP chinkboiz spergery so he or she can immediately suggest a Coco and Bakaqua collab stream.
Probably not even enough to warrant a collab. A nice @ would do the trick. Reacting too hard to whatever chinks want is a political mistake, just like when journous make 1000 articles per Trump dumb tweet.
 
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One who looks kinda like a blue-haired Kirsten Stewart in one pic is supposedly Amelia, the other is Mori. Mori usually has her lower face covered so it's the first time I've seen her full face.
Oh, damn. I wasn't able to find a picture of Dice without her having a face mask on.

Good find.
 
Because that has been an open secret since Polka's debut.

Tamaki and her were friends, and they never got to collab because of Oda's Management. Tamaki didn't know that the reason Oda never kept her promise is because of Oda's dick management. When Oda retired, Tamaki broke down in tears on stream discussing her retirement.


My favorite quote from this stream, "I take this seriously.. well all I do is weird stuff but I still take it seriously."
 
I mean, I'm all for doxing and getting publicly available info if you wanna, but I'm really curious as to why many are so interested in the case of the Vtubers. Isn't it the fantasy of a virtual character the whole selling point? Why would you want to know the reality when the whole point of a Vtuber is the fake persona? (Because otherwise you'd be watching an E-thot)
 
What the fuck is the chink's major malfunction? "Aqua doesn't @ Coco = she H8s her"?! I just... :story:

If the bugman hololive decompensation station thread is any indication, they seem really desperate for any kind of a win. Anything from believing Aqua is a secret commie (she isn't) to thinking Artia was secretly boosting Commie-Aqua by retweeting her song (she wasn't) and at this point even their gayops are being reduced to giving each other reassuring pats on the ass and insisting that if they just keep trying, maybe someday, someday cover senpai will notice them.

Tamaki and her were friends, and they never got to collab because of Oda's Management. Tamaki didn't know that the reason Oda never kept her promise is because of Oda's dick management. When Oda retired, Tamaki broke down in tears on stream discussing her retirement.


My favorite quote from this stream, "I take this seriously.. well all I do is weird stuff but I still take it seriously."

I have a much cooler Oda video for you
 
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Can westerners post at that site? What happens if someone shitpost a ton of banned shit?
 
Can westerners post at that site? What happens if someone shitpost a ton of banned shit?
They have filters for the runic copypasta and it's probablly done to death. And besides, I wouldn't even try it. It's best to let them stew in their own juices of autism instead of doing a failed gayop in a language you don't know. That way, they'll come up with gayops and fail and we laugh.
 
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They have filters for the runic copypasta and it's probablly done to death. And besides, I wouldn't even try it. It's best to let them stew in their own juices of autism instead of doing a failed gayop in a language you don't know. That way, they'll come up with gayops and fail and we laugh.
Oh, I wasn't talking about me, I'm just kinda surprised they have it to where people outside China can see everything and post.
 
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Oh, damn. I wasn't able to find a picture of Dice without her having a face mask on.

Good find.
I'll do you one better: Here's Dice doing a cover with a few of her Japanese rapper friends. She's very animated.

And an artist portrait for her last.fm page, wearing an oversized winter coat. If you just search for her full credit (DEMONDICE Karen) you can find a lot of stuff, including fanart of herself.

Honestly, her former avatar as DICE was just a minimalst version of herself with horns.
 
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Thanks to the One Child policy and all of its implications, there's an estimated 25 to 30 million more men of marriagable age than there are women. That's men who, mathematically, will never have a wife unless they leave the country. That's about 8% of the entire population of the USA in unmarriable men. China has an enormous incel problem, and it's largely the CCP's doing. A perfect audience for a small number of cute anime girls soliciting donations.

With such a large base of thirsty men, it's no surprise that the population of vtubers expanded so quickly there. Unfortunately, being popular in China has its drawbacks. Incels are jealous by nature, so having a large number of them as an audience is just asking for trouble down the line. It's like having thousands of jealous stalker ex-boyfriends, except (thankfully) most of them are stuck in another country, most of them don't speak your language, and they don't know your address even if they could leave, but (unthankfully) they can still harass and dox you online until they finally get bored and move on. Sprinkle in some extreme enforced nationalism and the problems become inevitable, since China's policy of political kowtowing is universally reviled by everyone outside the CCP's grasp.

That said, it's estimated that the one child policy averted at least 600 million births (including second-gen births, the children of those born under the policy). An extra half-billion Chinese is an unpleasant alternative to think about no matter which side of the border you're on. Maybe we should be thanking these people for taking the government-approved incel bullet.

They have filters for the runic copypasta and it's probablly done to death. And besides, I wouldn't even try it. It's best to let them stew in their own juices of autism instead of doing a failed gayop in a language you don't know. That way, they'll come up with gayops and fail and we laugh.

They've been trying to post dox on Twitter and getting banned about as fast as you'd expect. I've seen the gif of Fubuki's roommate more times than I can count, but it's usually buried within minutes. I haven't seen it recently, though, so maybe they finally gave up on that route.
 
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