2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Meat Target said:
Okay, Biden being ahead in WI is one thing, but this is some Baghdad Bob shit. Come on, man. There are even Dems in the replies saying it's excessive.
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Hillary won Illinois by 17 points -- and that's a deep blue state electorally.

How are such shitty pollsters still in business? They don't even make slightly believable propaganda.
 
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I went and voted today. I confused them by insisting on a paper ballot. Once again the Republicans in my area couldn't be bothered to find a single person for DA or county commissioner. I'll have to try robbing my local Walmart to see if the democratic compassionate justice extends to white people.

A week and a half ago I drove through rural southern Colorado, northern and western New Mexico, and Eastern Arizona and saw tons of Biden signs, which, in contrast to the rest of the country, is pretty typical. Arizona was a little more even, but the more I got away from bigger cities the more blue I saw. There's been on-and-off debate in this thread about if and when the Hispanic vote will finally flip red, but passing through places that have had families living there since the time of Onate who have never voted red, all I can say is if you think abortion and gays will spur these people to give up their gibs, you're wrong.
 
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That's not the point. The point is that the media will frame the Right as the instigators, even as they've ignored the riots. Who actually started it is irrelevant. They're driving into a trap. A bad-optics altercation gives the Dems the "muh huwite supremacist militia" narrative they need.
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And they will fail bigly. They can't say the right was instigating without mentioning the fact that there were riots to begin with. The country knows it's the Dems behind this. We know this because we could see their change in behavior when their internal polls tanked.

People are seeing through this shit more and more. It's taken forever, but it's happening. When ACB was first announced public opinion was widely in favor of waiting until after the election. The Dems/media threw out their cult attacks, their colonialist child adopter attacks, their repeal Roe vs Wade attacks, their repeal Obamacare attacks, the GOP is hypocritical attacks... and after all that, a majority of the country supported her confirmation.
 
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And they will fail bigly. They can't say the right was instigating without mentioning the fact that there were riots to begin with. The country knows it's the Dems behind this. We know this because we could see their change in behavior when their internal polls tanked.

People are seeing through this shit more and more. It's taken forever, but it's happening. When ACB was first announced public opinion was widely in favor of waiting until after the election. The Dems/media threw out their cult attacks, their colonialist child adopter attacks, their repeal Roe vs Wade attacks, their repeal Obamacare attacks, the GOP is hypocritical attacks... and after all that, a majority of the country supported her confirmation.
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They can retroactively blame it on Trump supporters, and memory-hole the previous two nights of rioting. Or they can continue to hammer the "unarmed dindu shot by racist cops" narrative. Or they can say the riots were caused white supremacist agitators in disguise.

They have a lock on the narrative. It's shitty, it's false, and they're all lying sons of bitches. Facts don't care about your feelings? Well, power doesn't care about your facts.
 
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They can retroactively blame it on Trump supporters, and memory-hole the previous two nights of rioting. Or they can continue to hammer the "unarmed dindu shot by racist cops" narrative. Or they can say the riots were caused white supremacist agitators in disguise.

They have a lock on the narrative. It's shitty, it's false, and they're all lying sons of bitches. Facts don't care about your feelings? Well, power doesn't care about your facts.
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Immediately pushing the "gotta pack the courts" nuclear option probably wasn't the best option.
 
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Disgruntled Pupper said:
I went and voted today. I confused them by insisting on a paper ballot. Once again the Republicans in my area couldn't be bothered to find a single person for DA or county commissioner. I'll have to try robbing my local Walmart to see if the democratic compassionate justice extends to white people.

A week and a half ago I drove through rural southern Colorado, northern and western New Mexico, and Eastern Arizona and saw tons of Biden signs, which, in contrast to the rest of the country, is pretty typical. Arizona was a little more even, but the more I got away from bigger cities the more blue I saw. There's been on-and-off debate in this thread about if and when the Hispanic vote will finally flip red, but passing through places that have had families living there since the time of Onate who have never voted red, all I can say is if you think abortion and gays will spur these people to give up their gibs, you're wrong.
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Do you think Trump will win Arizona?

On a personal level. My step mother is a Hispanic who immigrated to the United states in the 90s. Shes voted Democrat since. She is voting for Trump and all of her Hispanic friends are voting for Trump too. So make that if you will.

Where I live use to be a red part of New York. Now sadly a lot of locals have left. And I see noting but Biden signs. I think I have only seen three. So I am sad that Delgado will continue to be my repersitve in Congress.

But all of those who have moved. Have move to Florida and North Carolina. So at least they moved to states that they know will not only help keep it red, but their voice will be heard with their votes.
That's the problem living in upstate New York the city assholes run the rest of the state. And are invading up state. Pretty soon There may not be anymore Republicans here period.

Edit: when I said three I ment Trump signs, I may have actually seen 4 my bad
 
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RockPaper said:
If the rioting was such a plus for the Democrats, why did it wind down the minute they realized it was hurting them?

Biting your fingernails over imagined media spin is tiresome.
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Because they always project their guilt onto the Right. And it always works. And they always get away with it.
 
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RockPaper said:
Well, if the public was actually having a negative reaction to the riots and it was hurting the Dems (which it was), then whatever the media was doing doesn’t “always work”. Now does it?
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I really want to know how people just ate up the news seeing that one guy on CNN saying "peaceful protest" when a sea of fire was in the background.

Also, Trump's back in Arizona:
 
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mindlessobserver said:
These people have lost the plot. I think? That is the scary thing about this election. The two major factions in this country have both convinced themselves of diametrically opposed realities. Most of us here think all these lefties and politicos are insane. But what if WE are the crazy ones? I mean, it's possible. We are all anti-social autists on a shitposting board. Has our reality been skewed by that?Certainly it has, but are we the ones decoupled from objective reality for it or are people like Nate Silver?
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That does worry me. I mean it's not impossible I'll wake up after the election and it'll be the blue wave landslide the media have been praying for with the Democrats taking the White House and both the House and Senate in Congress. In which case the US is in deep shit.

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I just logged into Twitter and this was at the top of my feed:
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They sure are pushing this hard. They also limited one of Trump's tweets on Monday.
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It's all very concerning. I could see the a 2000 style protracted court battle while China attacks Taiwanese islands and there's violence in the streets.

The US is sufficiently concerned it shipped the Taiwanese a load of harpoon coastal defense batteries on light trucks and HIMARS high mobility MLRS systems. They're the sort of thing you need if you've got a fucking massive invasion fleet trying to do a D-Day style landing and you don't have air superiority so you need to move your assets around quickly to stop them getting nailed in an airstrike.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/10/27/asia-pacific/us-backs-taiwan-missile-sale/

Here's the Harpoon coastal defence vehicle

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And here's a HIMARS

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This whole thing looks like a cunning plan by China - infect the world with COVID to keep it distracted by endless lockdowns and mask mandates and crash the US economy. Encourage riots and civil unrest. Get their man Biden into the White House where he will presumably not be too hard on China as it tries to take over the Pacific.

If you look at the arms the US is shipping to Taiwan it's basically an end of the world special. SLAM-ER missiles to strike at targets deep inside China, Harpoons to attack an invasion fleet at sea and MLRS to attack it on land. Also loads and loads of SAM systems from man portable FIM-92F to PAC-3. And 108 M1A2 tanks and 66 F-16Cs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_arms_sales_to_Taiwan#Donald_Trump_(01.20.2017~)
 
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RockPaper said:
Well, if the public was actually having a negative reaction to the riots and it was hurting the Dems (which it was), then whatever the media was doing doesn’t “always work”. Now does it?
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Because like I said, they've flipped the narrative that it's white supremacists in disguise doing/instigating the rioting, while "90% are mostly peaceful protests" (in which they include dozens of gatherings of 10-20 people with BLM signs on a street corner). They've even gotten the FBI Director to buy the "Huwite Supremacist ar teh Graytest Threat" meme.
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I really want to know how people just ate up the news seeing that one guy on CNN saying "peaceful protest" when a sea of fire was in the background.
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Because most people are gullible, demoralized lemmings. That is IMO what will push Biden over the finish line. Do not underestimate the cavernous retardation of normies.
 
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