Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)
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They were two of the stranger bedfellows in American Politics. I’m not sure their odd on again off again political relationships qualify as Hate. They were in a lifelong state of constant argument. But they kept having the argument. With signs that they rather enjoyed it at times. I don’t know that we can properly put it in perspective through modern filters. They were like two old farmers who every day at noon go out to the fence line and argue with each other for an hour. Every day without fail. The arguing is just part of their routine. They had settled their differences and remained friendly until the day they both died. With Adams last recorded words being “at least Jefferson survives” not knowing Jefferson died minutes before.
somehow I think the only post presidency correspondence between Obama and Biden is Obama sending Creepy Joe some coloring books and crayons.
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Yes there was something to that extent. Some of Biden’s early supporters were mad that Obama wasn’t stomping for them. They expected it but he really held off till it was all but confirmed that he’d win. I think Obama knows the Bidens are fuck ups. I also suspect he doesn’t like them personally. I also wouldn’t be surprised if he knew the Republicans had dirt on Biden and wanted to distance himself from him as much as he feasibly could while maintaining face.
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So I'm sure everyone here is questioning it, so I'll ask, what about Trump and Pence. They seem to be on good terms, I also feel like Trump would let it be known if they weren't.
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The way Pence spoke at the VP debate, either he's respectful of Trump out of principle or actual feeling, or he at the very worst sees association with Trump as his political path forward.
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Trump and Pence are like peas and carrots. Pence is a great stoic straight man to Trump's bombastic strong man.
I don't think they're like BFFs or anything, but I haven't seen any signs of animosity between them.
I'm sure Pence frequently wants to roll his eyes at Trump's shenanigans and blustering, but the man has a poker face that was carved out of stone.
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When he first announced Pence as his pick I wasn't sure what to make of him not being from Indiana but he really does play off Trump rather well, he fills the niche of Christian conservative and acts as a straight man to Trump, he's not as quick with quips and insults but he can throw barbs out like we saw in his Kamala debate.
Joe and Kamala don't really mix that well, partially because of the age difference and then Kamala just gives off that fake bitchy Karen vibe while Biden is more like a sickly puppet reciting lines he's fed. Much more like oil and water vs Trump/Pence.
In private they may not like one another, who knows, but Pence and Trump do put on a good front together and play off one another much better, it also probably helps that Pence didn't face Trump in the 2016 primary so Trump hasn't actually attacked Pence to damage his image like Kamala did with Biden in the Dem primary.
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It's very telling that the two of them have not shown up on the campaign stage together. At all.
You'd think that would be really good optics-- even if they were standing 6 feet apart with masks on. Great opportunity for a photo-op to energize the party's voting base at least a little bit.
It's crystal clear to me that Obama does not want to be doing this campaigning.
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They are actually going to do one campaign where they are standing next to each other in Michigan I believe.
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Speaking of the reservation, Warren outright lied about having Native ancestry in order to get a Harvard professorship, among other preferential treatment. As much as a lot of older, white Dem women still overlook that and admire Warren, and would vote for her, it's a huge strike against her for younger voters, who came of age being scolded for shit like "appropriation." Not to mention POCs who would see her as another white lady taking something that should have gone to an actual woman of color.
Well, you've also got Harris who has that faintly ghetto twang in her voice, always sounds querulous and dissatisfied, is utterly unconvincing when she fakes niceness, and constantly makes the kind of contemptuous facial expressions better suited to a 13-year-old girl than President of the United States. She is profoundly unlikeable, and even women who have willfully chosen to ignore that she's the classic Mean Girl everybody hates know this. Oh, and then there's her harsh record as a prosecutor, which is just fucking poison.
Buttigieg, even if he changed his last name to Smith, would still have the fact that he comes off as smug, smarmy, and insincere. His personality is repellent, and I could not imagine him sitting down with Pooh or Putin and being taken seriously, any more than I can imagine them taking Kamala Harris seriously. And that counts for a lot.
I don't see them being friends at all, but they each have radically different, highly complementary skillsets, and I get the impression they recognize and respect that in each other. They do seem to have a cordial, mutually respectful working relationship, but actual friends? I rather doubt it; they're too radically different, in ways that aren't complementary.
If either is going to spill any tea on their relationship, it'll be Trump; Pence will take any dissatisfactions he may have to the grave with him.
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Michigan ... A state where Biden is SO far ahead in the polls ... Why the need to bring Obama there?
For real: The polls are such bullshit this year. If the polls were accurate, then wouldn't you think that Biden would be putting more of his efforts in Texas since that state is "apparently in dead heat"?
The polls say one thing, and yet literally everything else tells a different story.
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Having the Pres and VP together outside of D.C. is a huge security risk. I wonder how often it happened with the last administration?
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I think Trump respects Pence. I wouldn’t call them friends, but Trump seems to keep Pence more in the loop and actively involved in policy than most Presidents have of their Veep. I suspect a Pence has some mixed views on Trump, of the live the sinner hate the sin variety. He probably wishes Trump wasn’t so much Trump. But can’t ignore how effective Trump being Trump actually is.
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if Trump used Pence as a sounding board to bounce ideas off of. Keeps him in the loop, gives a balancing opinion and a republican leaning. Trumps talkative nature implies to me that he'd benefit greatly from Rubber Ducking an idea off of someone, preferably with most of the same clearances as he has.
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Hopefully this hasn't been posted already
That said, biden is looking worse by the day
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Clearly fake. No way will Joe make a minimum age of 15. He can’t get it up for anyone older than 8.
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I feel like there are at least four paths of logic for a presidential VP pick. First is a strategic pick that will give the President a small PR boost during the election in the hopes of drawing in voting blocs he otherwise might not have. I feel Pence was this kind of VP, so people who had concerns about Trump's boisterous nature would feel more comfortable knowing someone more level headed was at his side.
Next there is the VP as an advisor. This one correctly assumes that the President doesn't know everything and needs a second that is versed in a wide variety of subjects and has the connections make things happen. Dick Cheney was very much this kind of VP, though it really felt like he was making the real decisions in the White House back then.
Third is the VP as an opposite. The President has his opinions, the VP has his. This option gives the President a good second opinion on any actions he considers. It also gives the President an access way into the mind of his opposition, letting him plan and compromise accordingly. I don't know of many modern presidents that have done this with their VP pick, but I think a lot of the early Presidents did this.
Last, and certainly least, is the mutually assured destruction candidate. The President picks the biggest, dumbest retardhe can find, slaps him on the table and dares anyone to try and assassinate or impeach him. "You think, I'm bad? Get rid of me, and you will know the definition of bad!" I would have said Dan Quayle was the quintisential MAD candidate, but I feel Joe Biden would have given him a run for his money during the Obama years if the news ever covered any of his gaffes.
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I think the last one also applies to Pence because if butthurt liberals try to kill Trump, then they’d deal with Pence who is way more conservative than Trump.
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They had to because originally, the VP wasn't someone you picked, but, whoever was the runner-up in the election. The whole "combined ticket" thing didn't come around until the middle of the 19th Century when it was recognized that the scenario here of using the VP as your "evil twin", and consulting him as your natural foil or "voice of the opposition" was pretty optimistic because the guy you just spent months badmouthing, and is next in-line for succession to the Presidency, wasn't likely to have a vested interest in your success..... was he?
The reason you don't see it anymore is because the rules that allowed to happen are obsolete.
Only as a means to court reluctant Beltway voters and his zeal as an "attack dog", calling out the dirty hippies the way Nixon wanted to but felt he had to tone back a bit for the cameras.
He really had no love for the man and picked him because he was a liberal-leaning (but not TOO liberal) Republican when it looked like the RNC were about to force Strom Thurmond on him at the convention... he reportedly had no preference for a running mate going in.
When Agnew got popped for tax evasion, Nixon purportedly said "Doesn't surprise me, he's a Maryland politician and every single one of em' is crooked!"
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I think an element of the DNC (their backers, their handlers) are running Joe as a blank. They don't mind if he loses. Him losing is the call to action. The chaos is the real prize, imo.
People in general won't take quickly or kindly to the Great Global Reset* plans nor will they take quickly or kindly to the Green New Deal plans. Perhaps another 4 years of denigrating Trump and the resistance to the above will assist that. I.E 4 more years of unrestrained civil and economic unrest will weaken the "optics" of resolve.
Think the "chaos" of GWB leading to 8 years of Obama's "Hope and Change" and remember Hillary was not supposed to lose, (or was she?)
This year was a trial run. It was a flex on what they can do and will do.
The inclusion of China as a major player in this year is not down to the Chinese government. It's down to business. China as a country doesn't hold that much power, but it's business consortiums do and by extension, this gives the government more leeway in its sway.
I think a chunk of the DNC know Joe is compromised and useless and thus, is a blank candidate. Choosing Kamala was to the T of the plan I thought they'd follow - she was the only legit candidate they could put in, but she's also someone that the backers and handlers don't need - nay, outright need to get rid of - when it comes to re-structuring the DNC. An element of complete humiliation of Joe has been obvious from day one too. Running Kamala - someone who slammed Joe in the debates, as his VP is an addition to that. Joe represents everything the new DNC hate about Democrats.
The new DNC need to purge all the non-progs.
The ACB appointment and the China leaks are very interesting in how they play into this, aswell.
This isn't a theory I share alone, in fact, it's nearly play by play how Malcolm Turnbull wanted to restructure the Libs ("conservatives" in Australia) to remove the old guard, or at least bring them in line and how Moon Jae-In slimed his way into leadership in South Korea.
It's not a new tactic either, it's been done a million times over, from city council to the highest office in the lands.
*(If you want to see the effects of the GGR, take a look at how Scotland is pushing through insane "hate speech" laws, very China-esque, no? GGR isn't just economical/environmental. It's about reshaping society and culture to purely progressive, globalist structures. Those structures are the easiest to push through socially restrictive laws.
Another example of GGR in play, is in Melb, Australia, where Premier Dan Andrews - signee and faithful to the BRI and CCP, has kept Melb in extreme lockdown by exploiting not only his emergency powers, but by outright fabricating and refusing to be transparent with death tolls from Covid19. Destruction of the economic eco-system in order to further to GGR chaos.
Classic problem, reaction, solution. Economic destruction is less easier to ignore than the Climate Change crap.)
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Ready for something new that's highly suspicious? Here's Tucker:
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