DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[Surly Muppet]

Phil's regulars are clearly not buying his shit right now. $22 in tips.

Thank god JenovaCalamity just rolled through with $80 to hit the tips goal.
The whales somehow manage to consistently be the stupidest people in a chat that contains Derich. It's impressive.

Phil is surprised there are 360 viewers and he is really excited about that. He's not putting together that it's because he is in a perpetual meltdown and obviously lying about money.

 

[Iron Father]

OH, and by the way, according to Phil, his teacher didn’t even look like a Native American. I guess Phil expected him to have a feather in his hair, and carry a bow and arrow, and have scalps of white men on the classroom wall.

I bet he didn't even have his own self-defense hatchet.

 

[SojiroSakura]

It was a good stream, (103$, 80 from Jenovacalamity) despite complaining before that donation.

 

[Zappin’ And Spazzin’]

This is an odd question, but does Phil even count as a scammer at this point?
That is, if the only people donating to him are whales who don't give an ounce of a shit of what he's actually telling them.
He doesn't have to spin a narrative. He doesn't have to promise them anything in return. It's obviously pathetic, sad, and a little unnerving to see Phil have eating Skittles and chair-spinning as a tip reward. But it's what his audience wants, I guess.
You can't scam a rock. Can you scam people who are as dumb as rocks?
It sounds like a semantic to absolve Phil with, but honestly I just feel that, at this point, calling Phil a scammer is degrading to actual con artists.

 

[Shirō Ishii]

Wish I could post a clip, but I’m having to use a lousy phone til a new PC is built... but...

Did anyone hear Phil’s story tonight about having to take that Native American History elective in college? He said the school required a certain amount of these “diversity classes” and he had no choice but to take it.

OF COURSE he ranted about how his teacher was a complete idiot, and would come in and rant about everything BUT Native American history. He’d just tell the students to read a book, and the teacher made his students “drive all the way across Connecticut to visit some stupid Native American History museum.” OH, and by the way, according to Phil, his teacher didn’t even look like a Native American. I guess Phil expected him to have a feather in his hair, and carry a bow and arrow, and have scalps of white men on the classroom wall. Then, the teacher actually sent Phil an email about how lousy of a student he was.

But Phil wasn’t going to take any of that bullshit... Phil wrote him back, by god!

Phil told him that, actually, HE was the lousy one! Phil told him how much of an idiot he was! Phil informed the teacher that, actually, HE could have got him in trouble for being such a stupid, terrible teacher! The email was so devastating and badass that the teacher didn’t even write back...

Oh, and Phil pointed out that the whole class agreed with him that the guy was a shitty teacher. He closed the story by saying that college is such a fucking scam.

The bullshit this guy constantly spews out of his mouth is so amazing.

and then everybody clapped. Dude acts like a complete bitch around people and when confronted.

 

[King Daddy Telomerase]

This is an odd question, but does Phil even count as a scammer at this point?

I don't think so. The last things that I would consider scams were anything to do with paying for Katherine. Lying about the wedding, before that flying her out numerous times, buying her clothes, etc... all of which were under the guise of "taxes".

Phil just gets money because a small group of people are dumb, and a few liked his content 10 years ago and want to repay Phil for some reason.

 

[Mr.PiggyOinkOinkOinkOink]

He doesn't have to spin a narrative.

And yet he still does, he clearly exaggerates his current money issues.

And yes you can still scam Tards, especially ones who don’t care that they are dumping their money into a black hole. If anything those types are a con artist wet dream

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

Phil just got really defensive when someone asked if he would wear the Sonic hat if they tipped $500.

Phil stated that the only reason he wore the Sonic hat was because he was in a good mood and wanted to do something silly for the stream of his own accord, and that mature people would understand that.
Hm.

There was an awakening.
OiC said "I guess my gifted subs mean nothing."

So not a 'hey guys, you've all been incredibly generous lately and I literally cannot do this without you guys, to show a small amount of appreciation, I'm gonna gift 200 random subs'
Or
'hey guys, I know there have been a lot of questions about my finances lately, so I'm going to open up for a change and show you the receipts'

Nothing resembling appreciation or anything.

Just wear a silly, unwashed felt hat.

Wait what, this isn't enough for you? You fucking ungrateful niglets. I'm out here busting my ass for 80 hours a week bringing you bleeding edge, quality content, and what do I get? A reminder that I need at least 1500$ a week to maintain a bare ass fucking minimum quality of life? You fags are fucking pathetic shitdrips.

So anyways, fuck that moron. So I'm noticing tips are a little low lately.....


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A paypig has been jostled. Will he awaken, or return to slumber and gift another 300 subs?

Edit: Double

Someone asked what amount of tips are needed for him to be secure.
"There is no 'okay' amount of tips" was the response. The notion that there would be is ludacris.
That isn't how business works.
The tips give him the freedom to buy 'im-por-INT (sic) things'.
If he gets a bunch of tips one week and then nothing the next, that's a wash and that's not good.
And people shouldn't ask that, because it's a business matter.
Getting a lot of money on Monday does not mean he is okay, that isn't how this works and that was never how this worked.
"You know who doesn't need the money? The people with the million dollar contracts on Twitch." This is the sloppiest deflection I have ever seen.
If 'somebody' has a good night, just be happy for them. Don't get up in the streamer's business. It has nothing to do with the content that they're putting out.

This does beg the question then... what exactly is the 'tips goal' for? Isn't that the amount of tips that are supposed to allow him to pay his bills? I guess we have ditched that narrative and that's just what we need daily to be a business - $200, and that's gone by the next day. That's operating cost. Overhead expenses. Mature things.

This is egregious though. It's apparent that money questions are a massive sore spot right now because he has no viable explanations, so he is just allowing himself to get completely fired up by the people baiting him.

The term our adorable little business major is looking for is the break even point. The exact dollar amount where you get out of the red, after everything is accounted for: taxes, rental properties, salaries, inventory, incidentals, etc.
99% of businesses have this baked into their model and budget.
'snort, budget, sure I budget'
No, dear. You don't, and as someone who knows better it is...interesting to watch. There are two, and only two, scenarios here:
1) He does budget, there are no chargebacks, he's pocketing it all.
2) He does not budget and does not know how to factor a chargeback into the budget and balance. A chargeback is a new name on an old idea. Its a fucking refund.
If I were a successful business major, and I'm not, I would take in the tips as a sort of charged to account. The funds are owed and will come in eventually, but for all intents and purposes, until that clawback timer runs out, I can't 100% say that money is the business's, and money that can't be put back into the business is worthless until it can. It's poison. Don't touch it. But this requires a modicum of self control on the accountant's part.

I could go on and on about how he is a fucking abberation, but there's a better term for him: a financial vampire. He must feed off others to sustain himself. Effort is his sunlight. A real job is his stake to the heart.

 

[PieceofShet]

This is an odd question, but does Phil even count as a scammer at this point?
That is, if the only people donating to him are whales who don't give an ounce of a shit of what he's actually telling them.
He doesn't have to spin a narrative. He doesn't have to promise them anything in return. It's obviously pathetic, sad, and a little unnerving to see Phil have eating Skittles and chair-spinning as a tip reward. But it's what his audience wants, I guess.
You can't scam a rock. Can you scam people who are as dumb as rocks?
It sounds like a semantic to absolve Phil with, but honestly I just feel that, at this point, calling Phil a scammer is degrading to actual con artists.

He is crying even poorer while having like 2000dollars less expense per month AND still paying hundreds on jpegs... yes... I think it qualifies him as a liar and scammer.

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[MoonRocker]

SuperCuck is a simpleminded turboautist who has larped onto Phil and the autistically acute community centered around the pig for whatever reason: obscure internet clout, qualified boredom, excruciating loneliness; traits all culminating into mental illness as being the most likely factor as demonstrated in SuperCuck’s thread on the Farms.

My take as to why he attacks detractors and restreamers is to rile up their associated communities and have them turn their ire onto Phil for possible repercussions.

It hasn’t worked in the last, nor will it work in the future. He’s a goddamn fucking lonely loser who’s abusing a broken digital claims systems while impersonating corporate legal departments. He’s also using stolen CCs and abusing payment processing systems. Literally breaking the law to fuck with another fat lonely loser. I guess there is some irony in all this autism, it’s hard not to chuckle at all the nonsense.

You know the worst thing about all this weaponized autism? All we’re getting are bad attempts at trolling the pig that result in... literally nothing. If anything, his “trolling” attempts have helped Phil create a new begging narrative as well as multiple lucrative pity streams whenever his Twitch account was temporarily suspended.

You know you’re a fucking galaxy-brained turboautist when all of your efforts end up helping the guy you’re trying to fuck over.

 

[Cyber Bowling]

This is an odd question, but does Phil even count as a scammer at this point?
That is, if the only people donating to him are whales who don't give an ounce of a shit of what he's actually telling them.
He doesn't have to spin a narrative. He doesn't have to promise them anything in return. It's obviously pathetic, sad, and a little unnerving to see Phil have eating Skittles and chair-spinning as a tip reward. But it's what his audience wants, I guess.
You can't scam a rock. Can you scam people who are as dumb as rocks?
It sounds like a semantic to absolve Phil with, but honestly I just feel that, at this point, calling Phil a scammer is degrading to actual con artists.

Technically, yes, since he lies and makes up stories to try and make money. But in practice, well, I don't think he's that successful of a scammer. A fair amount of paypigs have outright said they know something is up or use the excuse it isn't their business what Phil spends money on. They'll also joke around in chat and imply they're aware of it. Phil is one of the worst liars in the world, which is a pretty important skill for scamming.

I do think there are a few fans who legitimately fall for the scams, but those are the ones who quite literally have something wrong with them to the point where they're unable to tell Phil is lying. And even with some of them, I wouldn't be surprise if they realize it, but do some sort of mental gymnastics to justify it. And even with them, it's not necessarily the scamming narrative they believe as much as it is the "owning the detractors" narrative they've adapted for themselves. I guess there's an argument to be made that's also a Phil scam, since he doesn't actually get trolled to the extent he likes to imply.

I think it's telling that Phil was really at his most successful recently with the vest streak, which absolutely had nothing to do with Phil. It wasn't his idea, and while the chat was technically supporting him, in their mind, they were really supporting "the streak" and it just so happened that Phil was profiting off of that. It's very telling how much he's been struggling with tips ever since the streak ended, and just goes to show that not a lot of the paypigs really care about Phil the person, but Phil the clown.

 

[Penix]

If I were a successful business major, and I'm not, I would take in the tips as a sort of charged to account. The funds are owed and will come in eventually, but for all intents and purposes, until that clawback timer runs out, I can't 100% say that money is the business's, and money that can't be put back into the business is worthless until it can. It's poison. Don't touch it. But this requires a modicum of self control on the accountant's part.

Hello ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Tokyo olympics 2021. Today we are going to watch the Mental Gymnastics men's division. Our first contestant representing the United states of America, it is Philip Burnell.
And he starts of with shitting on cheerssubsandtips, what spectacle! As we know Philip can't wait a month to receive positive benefit, he needs that money RIGHT NOW, to pay his bills. NewbridgeLLC just tipped a 100 dollars! The crowd is going wild! What will he do?
He could wait 3 months to not risk getting charged ba... Wait! He is transferring it to his bank account? What a BOLD move!

 

[Forbidden Math]

This is an odd question, but does Phil even count as a scammer at this point?
That is, if the only people donating to him are whales who don't give an ounce of a shit of what he's actually telling them.
He doesn't have to spin a narrative. He doesn't have to promise them anything in return. It's obviously pathetic, sad, and a little unnerving to see Phil have eating Skittles and chair-spinning as a tip reward. But it's what his audience wants, I guess.
You can't scam a rock. Can you scam people who are as dumb as rocks?
It sounds like a semantic to absolve Phil with, but honestly I just feel that, at this point, calling Phil a scammer is degrading to actual con artists.

Even if it is just the people okay with DSP's lies who give him money he's still keeping up the lies and manipulation specifically in hopes of suckering in new people so yeah, still a scammer.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

Hello ladies and gentleman and welcome to the Tokyo olympics 2021. Today we are going to watch the Mental Gymnastics men's division. Our first contestant representing the United states of America, it is Philip Burnell.
And he starts of with shitting on cheerssubsandtips, what spectacle! As we know Philip can't wait a month to receive positive benefit, he needs that money RIGHT NOW, to pay his bills. NewbridgeLLC just tipped a 100 dollars! The crowd is going wild! What will he do?
He could wait 3 months to not risk getting charged ba... Wait! He is transferring it to his bank account? What a BOLD move!

Planet Jeff comes in with the save. Thank God his wife died early or this would have been a short set for Phil!

 

[Gamergirl Cleanup Crew]

Wish I could post a clip, but I’m having to use a lousy phone til a new PC is built... but...

Did anyone hear Phil’s story tonight about having to take that Native American History elective in college? He said the school required a certain amount of these “diversity classes” and he had no choice but to take it.

OF COURSE he ranted about how his teacher was a complete idiot, and would come in and rant about everything BUT Native American history. He’d just tell the students to read a book, and the teacher made his students “drive all the way across Connecticut to visit some stupid Native American History museum.” OH, and by the way, according to Phil, his teacher didn’t even look like a Native American. I guess Phil expected him to have a feather in his hair, and carry a bow and arrow, and have scalps of white men on the classroom wall. Then, the teacher actually sent Phil an email about how lousy of a student he was.

But Phil wasn’t going to take any of that bullshit... Phil wrote him back, by god!

Phil told him that, actually, HE was the lousy one! Phil told him how much of an idiot he was! Phil informed the teacher that, actually, HE could have got him in trouble for being such a stupid, terrible teacher! The email was so devastating and badass that the teacher didn’t even write back...

Oh, and Phil pointed out that the whole class agreed with him that the guy was a shitty teacher. He closed the story by saying that college is such a fucking scam.

The bullshit this guy constantly spews out of his mouth is so amazing.

"The game never told me this"
"My teacher never told me this"
"Wait you're supposed to wipe? Wow ok so I'm supposed to just KNOW that CAMAN *tableslam*"

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

Wish I could post a clip, but I’m having to use a lousy phone til a new PC is built... but...

Did anyone hear Phil’s story tonight about having to take that Native American History elective in college? He said the school required a certain amount of these “diversity classes” and he had no choice but to take it.

OF COURSE he ranted about how his teacher was a complete idiot, and would come in and rant about everything BUT Native American history. He’d just tell the students to read a book, and the teacher made his students “drive all the way across Connecticut to visit some stupid Native American History museum.” OH, and by the way, according to Phil, his teacher didn’t even look like a Native American. I guess Phil expected him to have a feather in his hair, and carry a bow and arrow, and have scalps of white men on the classroom wall. Then, the teacher actually sent Phil an email about how lousy of a student he was.

But Phil wasn’t going to take any of that bullshit... Phil wrote him back, by god!

Phil told him that, actually, HE was the lousy one! Phil told him how much of an idiot he was! Phil informed the teacher that, actually, HE could have got him in trouble for being such a stupid, terrible teacher! The email was so devastating and badass that the teacher didn’t even write back...

Oh, and Phil pointed out that the whole class agreed with him that the guy was a shitty teacher. He closed the story by saying that college is such a fucking scam.

The bullshit this guy constantly spews out of his mouth is so amazing.

Motherfucker! I'll take bullshit that happened but Phil was still such a massive faggot for a billion, Alex.

 

[Prince Lotor]

Hmmm, so DSP was "just in a good mood and wanted to do something fun for the stream"?

Also DownFromTheRafters has joined a new faction and hasn't been harassed out of it due to fail trolling. . .
And then got to throw money at a faction event and broke into Top 50, staying up until 4a.m. doing so. . .
The same night DSP was up past 2a.m. Tweeting inanely retarded hot takes. . .
But you immature idiots wouldn't understand. . .

I wonder what put Phil in a "good mood"? Maybe he was eagerly anticipating something that excites him?

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

Motherfucker! I'll take bullshit that happened but Phil was still such a massive faggot for a billion, Alex.

I'd believe it only if some other student sent that email to the professor about being a worthless professor, we all know that DSP's got no balls to be confrontational to someone with authority if there's eventual consequences. Some other student probably sent that email and as usual DSP has to be the hero of this story so of course "I'm the one who sent that scathing email to the lousy professor! Me! Reeeee!"

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

I'd believe it only if some other student sent that email to the professor about being a worthless professor, we all know that DSP's got no balls to be confrontational to someone with authority if there's eventual consequences. Some other student probably sent that email and as usual DSP has to be the hero of this story so of course "I'm the one who sent that scathing email to the lousy professor! Me! Reeeee!"

Ah, the ol' look at how big my balls were back in my glory days trope.
My grandpa does that, too. Except he really did knife those Krauts.
Phil has walked away from every confrontation with his head hung low in his life. I mean, I fucking get it, your youth and teens and college years were shit, so you sculp a better life. But holy shit man, put some fucking time and think about what you put into your lies. THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT PEOPLE TO BELIEVE.
So do better than an unbelievable story like I fucking stared down that squaw fucker and told him he can suck his curriculum out of my rock hard dick, and then the class cheered, and the prof was fired on the spot.
For as much as Phil lies, he's fucking abhorrent at it. The more shit you tack onto a lie, the more people are going to see it for what it is. Keep it simple. Not: I almost banged these hot passed out sluts but some dude took a bowie knife to a water main (fucking what??) And it started flooding and I had to fucking book it. Instead: I fucked a couple of passed out sluts at a party once (please don't ever do that). Your lie is a fortress, the fewer points of entry, the better.

 

[grump]

Wish I could post a clip, but I’m having to use a lousy phone til a new PC is built... but...

Did anyone hear Phil’s story tonight about having to take that Native American History elective in college? He said the school required a certain amount of these “diversity classes” and he had no choice but to take it.

OF COURSE he ranted about how his teacher was a complete idiot, and would come in and rant about everything BUT Native American history. He’d just tell the students to read a book, and the teacher made his students “drive all the way across Connecticut to visit some stupid Native American History museum.” OH, and by the way, according to Phil, his teacher didn’t even look like a Native American. I guess Phil expected him to have a feather in his hair, and carry a bow and arrow, and have scalps of white men on the classroom wall. Then, the teacher actually sent Phil an email about how lousy of a student he was.

But Phil wasn’t going to take any of that bullshit... Phil wrote him back, by god!

Phil told him that, actually, HE was the lousy one! Phil told him how much of an idiot he was! Phil informed the teacher that, actually, HE could have got him in trouble for being such a stupid, terrible teacher! The email was so devastating and badass that the teacher didn’t even write back...

Oh, and Phil pointed out that the whole class agreed with him that the guy was a shitty teacher. He closed the story by saying that college is such a fucking scam.

The bullshit this guy constantly spews out of his mouth is so amazing.

I hate myself for saying this but I agree with Phil (and Panda) here on multiple points. Although I take a slightly more nuanced view than just saying college is a waste.

I would agree with the common wisdom that a college degree is still important for many good traditional jobs. But its mostly important in the sense of an admission ticket. College degrees have morphed into the high school diploma 2.0. For most fields they provide questionable value that you're probably mostly better off learning on the job but they're used as an extraordinarily expensive timeconsuming resume filter just because people assume you must be a dumbass if you don't have what everybody else does. For most people they provide little and increasingly negative intrinsic value. Phil is living proof of this in multiple ways. Not only has he clearly not learned anything rendering his college years a waste but he's also making decent money regardless.

And nothing sums up the silliness of college more than the diversity requirement that they've been ramping up more and more in recent years. I'm not opposed to the concept in theory but its more often than not driven by politics and brainwashing.

If I was King I'd move most people to the vocational/apprentice route or a much simpler pared down basic education gateway program that focused on preparing for jobs and networking, shoring up deficiencies, with some classes in basic logic, civic responsibility, and finance thrown in. The traditional extended program, minus the bs politicking and faffing about, would just be for the technical and academic fields that needed it. Maybe reward employers who pick up and trained people themselves and charge those that insist on having the universities inefficiently do it for them.