DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[millais]

Well... “Valedictorian” doesn’t necessarily mean a whole lot.

Phil could have gone to one of those schools where just the fact that you submit most of your homework on time puts you in the top tier of academic achievers. Since 3/4 of the student population are either Hispanics who barely speak English, or niggers who think academic achievement=being white.

It has been mentioned in the past, but Phil literally went to Basketball-American High. He attended a private school in Connecticut whose sole purpose is to serve as a training ground for ethnically diverse students gunning for college sports scholarships. That's the kind of environment where he won his much vaunted academic accolades. To turn the sports comparison on its head, I'm guessing that graduating valedictorian in such an institution was a bit like the academic equivalent of winning the Special Olympics

 

[Preferred Penne]

While most of this is in my head with little evidence to back it up I always thought of Phil's parents as Red and Kitty from That 70's Show. His mom babies him and tells him everything he does is great while his dad is more strict and tells him "get good grades, go to a good college, and you'll be set."

So Phil works hard through high school, graduates college, and then realizes he won't instantly get a six figure job he'll have to start back at the bottom and work his way up. That's when Phil quit life and luckily Youtube was right around the corner to allow that to happen. If Phil was 5 years older he'd have been fucked.

Phil could use a good foot up his ass.

 

[LostMy1stAccount]

It has been mentioned in the past, but Phil literally went to Basketball-American High. He attended a private school in Connecticut whose sole purpose is to serve as a training ground for ethnically diverse students gunning for college sports scholarships. That's the kind of environment where he won his much vaunted academic accolades. To turn the sports comparison on its head, I'm guessing that graduating valedictorian in such an institution was a bit like the academic equivalent of winning the Special Olympics

Probably was bullied and laughed at by all the North American Apes at his school which resulted in his bitterness towards the Tevins of the world.

 

[PieceofShet]

I watched the @LyteSydeByll restream, DSP got really triggered when someone mentioned Twitch might take percentage of his tips. He went berserk and started to talk non sense, even had a flawed restaurant analogy...

I hope twitch will move and do that.

 

[Pargon]

I watched the @LyteSydeByll restream, DSP got really triggered when someone mentioned Twitch might take percentage of his tips. He went berserk and started to talk non sense, even had a flawed restaurant analogy...

I hope twitch will move and do that.

I will laugh and laugh if Twitch does this. Every single partnered streamer will issue forth a torrent of salt. We'll be able to cure our meat through the whole winter.

 

[wahkando]

I will laugh and laugh if Twitch does this. Every single partnered streamer will issue forth a torrent of salt. We'll be able to cure our meat through the whole winter.

They can and will do it.

They've already established a streaming monopoly and YouTube already take a 30% cut from their super chat system, the twitch streamers can do nothing about it. And the recent roll outs of cheer/bits updates clearly points towards increased shares of kahntributions from streamers to twitch.

The free prime sub system ensures Twitch can do literally whatever they want and still maintain their hold on the market.

 

[The Penultimate Warrior]

I'm amazed Twitch don't already do this. They offer mutiple ways to pay a streamer but one of them means they get no money from it.

 

[wahkando]

I'm amazed Twitch don't already do this. They offer mutiple ways to pay a streamer but one of them means they get no money from it.

Streamlabs isn't a twitch affiliated system or service, it's something the streamer puts on his stream himself.

Twitch wants people to subscribe and cheer, if they had a tipping or donation service baked in, they'd take a cut.

I'm not sure why they didn't add a donation button from the very start though to be honest.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

Twitch dipping their hands into Phil's tip jar would be fucking glorious, because on top of the predictable knee-jerk temper tantrum he can be counted on to deliver, it would possibly mark the beginning of the end for him. Accounting for PayPal's fees is one thing, but asking his wheelchairs to do that AND add enough money to their tip to make up for what Twitch takes? Phil will obviously demand that they do so, but will enough of them actually do so? I would love to find out, because I'm pretty sure the pigroach would rather not.

Even if they come through for him, he'll still be constantly sweating way more than usual over how much his ability to stay up all night wasting money on wrestling jpegs is being threatened by the very people he has ungratefully thrown shade at. Very appropriate comeuppance.

 

[The Penultimate Warrior]

Streamlabs isn't a twitch affiliated system or service, it's something the streamer puts on his stream himself.

Twitch wants people to subscribe and cheer, if they had a tipping or donation service baked in, they'd take a cut.

I'm not sure why they didn't add a donation button from the very start though to be honest.

I assume they'll ban any means to circumnavigate, which makes sense from their perspective. Although his wheelchairs will probably just start donating 30% more.

 

[FamicomGorby]

I'm amazed Twitch don't already do this. They offer mutiple ways to pay a streamer but one of them means they get no money from it.

Yeah I never got how Twitch tolerated streamers asking for money in a way that they don't get a cut from. Sure it would be somewhat tough to enforce, but could at least stop people like Dave from putting a tips goal up on screen.

 

[Filthy Greenskin]

If Twitch started dipping their hands into Phil's trough then he'd just shift the burden onto his paypigs, every session they'll be reminded how much he's losing on their contributions and they really need to increase their positivity.

 

[Surly Muppet]

Among Phil's greatest hits with the Twitch tips rant was a statement that the tips are his and Twitch has no right to them. They have nothing to do with his streams.
Someone pointed out that he streams on their platform, so they could be entitled to a cut. Phil then said that, while true, they 'don't improve anything' and they would make a huge influx of money for doing absolutely nothing differently. Sound like the expectations of a certain streamer we know?

He also said that 'they already have subs and cheers, why do they need a percentage of tips'. I don't know, Phillip, but I notice you also have all three of those things on your leaderboard...

Additionally, Phil said that if Twitch wants money from streamers, they should just start charging to stream on the platform - a flat monthly fee, rather than some percentage of the streamer's income. He said that it wouldn't be fair to people who stream to small audiences who don't make much money, so a flat fee would be better.

1. Many of those small streamers are doing it as a hobby or side-gig and actually aren't counting their stacks of tips at the end of the night.
2. A percentage might actually screw them over less than a flat fee would if they have a small audience who don't contribute much - basic math would suggest that.
3. A percentage would hurt those 'million dollar streamers' (that Phil specified yesterday don't deserve contributions) the most.

Weird that a percentage based system would be so bad...
Except Phil just admitted what he is. He is a small-audience streamer who brings in a disproportionate amount of money, particularly via tips, that puts him in financial league with significantly bigger streamers. Phil is not one of 'the little guys', nor is he an underdog.

I don't even particularly think Twitch should do this, but I think they need to start purging some of the begging off their platform, and this would probably help. He'd probably just try to suddenly take an interest in Patreon again. That or we'd have a $300 tips goal every stream as Phil tries to tell us that Twitch taking 50% of his tips means that he needs to collect 3x as much to compensate.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

That or we'd have a $300 tips goal every stream as Phil tries to tell us that Twitch taking 50% of his tips means that he needs to collect 3x as much to compensate.

Requires no effort on his part (unlike Patreon) and follows his long-running narrative, so yes, that'll be exactly what he does.

But what really matters most is WHY he'll be so salty, worried, and shamelessly more of a beggar than ever before, and it's not even because those tips are "his". It's because those tips are for being spent on WWE Champions. That's the real reason he streams six days a week. That's the real reason he lies about his finances. That's the real reason all that vest money is gone. That's the real reason he says to tip $1.30 instead of a dollar. That's the real reason he puts so much importance on being tipped versus any other way of contributing to him. That's the real reason he sweats and bitches when he has to go overtime. That's the real reason he looks so bummed when going overtime isn't even going to help.

$50 worth of tips for a day's worth of streaming isn't $50 Phil can put in the bank and use for whatever he needs later, or even for something actually important like food that he's legit almost out of. No, that's $50 that he'll be wasting on a shitty mobile game that very same night. To make it worse, it's also $150 less than he wanted to waste on said game. Why else would his tips goal be $100 per stream?

If Twitch starts taking a percentage of his tips, they're not just taking money from him. They're impacting his enjoyment of WWE Champions, and to an even greater degree than sweet deranged Nigel was able to. Being kicked from every prestigious guild is one thing, but not being able to whale out regardless of the aforementioned? Phil may just get the angriest that anyone has ever seen him.

 

[gh0stzero]

There will probably be something in their TOS explicitly stating to not tell anyone what the cut is.

It would allow Twitch to take more money from big streamers while leaving the little guy with enough food to maybe order a pizza once a month

 

[Anonymous Dimwit]

Piggy sure did show how loyal he is to anyone or anything - Rambo, his Mom he milked for tax money, Twitch. It's all about the money with Philipo, Lover of Horses. He'll ditch Twitch the moment he thinks he can make more munny elsewhere and give a big piggy screeching rant as he does it. Why Twitch protects this grifting swine, I'll never know.

 

[Zappin’ And Spazzin’]

Why Twitch protects this grifting swine, I'll never know.

Because Twitch is a far larger, more filthier, grifting swine.
Phil still makes them money at the end of the day, and he’s so small-time, forgotten, and obscure that it doesn’t hurt their reputation to have him around, despite his dumbass hermit opinions. Helps that he makes so much money despite being so tiny.

 

[Very Honest Content]

Streamlabs isn't a twitch affiliated system or service, it's something the streamer puts on his stream himself.

Twitch wants people to subscribe and cheer, if they had a tipping or donation service baked in, they'd take a cut.

I'm not sure why they didn't add a donation button from the very start though to be honest.

Looked at it as redundancy on top of the cheer system is my guess? Any payment processing done on a site is incapable of truly lock-boxing out other payment methods in actuality, the idea that somehow all tips MUST be processed through a system that the site can then skim off of is a pipe dream for the company trying to impose such a scenario, but that doesn't mean they won't go for it either. Maybe they have whale accounts for mobile games they want to pay to win with too, why should Scopely only boost Phil?

 

[Kosher Dill]

Any payment processing done on a site is incapable of truly lock-boxing out other payment methods in actuality, the idea that somehow all tips MUST be processed through a system that the site can then skim off of is a pipe dream for the company trying to impose such a scenario

They could get pretty far just by adding something to their TOS along the lines of "No begging onstream for off-site payments". It wouldn't even be that hard to enforce, given what a small percentage of streamers actually make enough money to be worth noticing.

 

[Vic Viper T301]

If Twitch started dipping their hands into Phil's trough then he'd just shift the burden onto his paypigs, every session they'll be reminded how much he's losing on their contributions and they really need to increase their positivity.

So, uh, it's not my fault, but due to stupid Twitch being a bunch of greedy fucks, I have to increase the tips goal for the vest to $150. Nothing I could do! Uh, ok now this is hilarious, DroopyStrokeFace just cheered and said "If your streams are art and the games are ingredients, isn't Twitch the canvas?" No, stupid! When you give me money, that's my money! Time for a nice... LEAN IN BAN! ACK ACK ACK!