2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Bunny Tracks]

Institutional power and backing enables derangement syndromes to grow. Without it you have nothing. You're sounding like the FBI, who hand-wrings about far-right white domestic terrorism being the biggest threat to the country while Philadelphia right now is experiencing some very fun protests that have nothing to do with them.

The indicator is what the far-Right did during Obama, which is basically nothing, which I suspect you have no answer for.

I also point out the TES thread, which has almost no funny material whatsoever, which I also suspect you have no answer for, since there should be mountains of hilarious laughs to be had yet it's mostly low-key politically-driven bitching.

Dude, chill out. I didn't say the far-right was the biggest threat to the country, or that it would be if Biden became president. All I said was that BDS and violence would still be a thing to look out for. You do have a point about the far-Right during the Obama era, and you are right and I have to admit that I don't have answer for that.

I will say however that a lot has changed over the years, and that it is best to just be prepared and not doing anything stupid. This year has brought out the worst in everyone, and I don't think it's wrong to expect violence on both sides, in very amounts and intensities, regardless of who wins this election.

 

[X Prime]

Dude, chill out. I didn't say the far-right was the biggest threat to the country, or that it would be if Biden became president. All I said was that BDS and violence would still be a thing to look out for. You do have a point about the far-Right during the Obama era, and you are right and I have to admit that I don't have answer for that.

I will say however that a lot has changed over the years, and that it is best to just be prepared and not doing anything stupid. This year has brought out the worst in everyone, and I don't think it's wrong to expect violence on both sides, in very amounts and intensities, regardless of who wins this election.

This year has brought out the worst in everyone? OK then.

Please, inform us of what the far-Right has done in response to the various BLM riots over the past few months that is even half as egregious. I shall wait for an accounting.

Until I see it, I must say that it seems to me that you are conjuring "both sides are about the same" fears when the reality of the past few months has dashed those kinds of assumptions. If it were true, counter-BLM protests should be similarly violent and raucous, and they are not.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Folks should really watch the Iowa speech, the wind has caused Trump to abandon his teleprompters and it's just been a non-stop, rambling shitpost of a speech.

 

[Maradontia]

MAGAs on suicide watch! Joe Biden's gonna fuck up your WORLD!

 

[Empty]

"Vote blue no matter who" is in force all the time

For the last 20 years (yeah, even including the 2000 presidential election) I have never seen this sentiment imposed as strongly as this year. At least in the previous presidential elections you could support and vote for bunch of independent candidates or candidates from non-state opposition parties. 2016 was all about "if you vote for Trump, you are literally a nazi", but today, in 2020 it's all about "If you don't vote for Biden, you are literally a nazi". That's a freaking huge difference, dude.

 

[X Prime]

For the last 20 years (yeah, even including the 2000 presidential election) I have never seen this sentiment imposed as strongly as this year. At least in the previous presidential elections you could see and vote for bunch of independent candidates or candidates from non-state opposition parties. 2016 was all about "if you vote for Trump, you are literally a nazi", but today, in 2020 it's all about "If you don't vote for Biden, you are literally a nazi". That's a freaking huge difference, dude.

Funny thing is, I felt like I should have said "the past 20 years" myself.

To me, it feels as if it was always there, as something just not said out loud but generally understood, that you were a bad person if you were Republican. All the past four years has done is make the mask of civility on the part of the Dems slip.

 

[Oats12345]

Folks should really watch the Iowa speech, the wind has caused Trump to abandon his teleprompters due to the wind and it's just been a non-stop, rambling shitpost of a speech.

Who cares. At least he doesn't come off dead inside

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

All this fighting over who’ll be more violent.
Both sides have both a proven and increasing chance of losing their minds after the election.
Touching on the right wing, it really wouldn’t shock me if a right winger finally decided to go through with their uprising fantasies and took a shot at Biden or another Democrat. I’ve been noticing a increasing agreement between them that violence is inevitable and their tired of constantly losing to the left. They’ve been peaceful so far, but that’s gotten them nowhere and they know it.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

People keep asking me if I think Trump is gonna win or not.

I honestly don't want to say, I tend to not come to conclusions until the event happens. Even if I did bet on a popular vote win, I honestly don't know.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

I'm pretty sure "vote blue no matter who" has been a sentiment for a while now, just not called that. In the South we have "Yellow Dog Democrat" (a term that may or may not be found elsewhere). When used in a sentence, it goes like this: "Bob would vote for a yellow dog if it ran as a Democrat."

"Legacy Dem" is similar.

 

[Aidan]

Funny thing is, I felt like I should have said "the past 20 years" myself.

To me, it feels as if it was always there, as something just not said out loud but generally understood, that you were a bad person if you were Republican. All the past four years has done is make the mask of civility on the part of the Dems slip.

There's been an apparatus for a long time that indirectly vilified Republicans and a large part of that is the media. I mean it's been super easy to poke fun at the Republicans for the past 50 years, to be fair, especially from a city-folk perspective. I think the internet backfired in a very unanticipated and unpredictable way that has only ended up benfiting the GOP because Trump is Shitposter in Chief and understands the internet surprisingly well for a literal boomer billionaire. Most Republicans don't understand it and to be fair, neither do most Democrats, but the Democrats have the benefit of connections that understand and are directly involved in large parts of internet culture.

It's interesting, if anything.

 

[Oats12345]

All this fighting over who’ll be more violent.
Both sides have both a proven and increasing chance of losing their minds after the election.
Touching on the right wing, it really wouldn’t shock me if a right winger finally decided to go through with their uprising fantasies and took a shot at Biden or another Democrat. I’ve been noticing a increasing agreement between them that violence is inevitable and their tired of constantly losing to the left. They’ve been peaceful so far, but that’s gotten them nowhere and they know it.

So basically.

"If you want me to be the bad guy, then I guess I'm the bad guy"

 

[Pointless Pedant]

This year has brought out the worst in everyone? OK then.

Please, inform us of what the far-Right has done in response to the various BLM riots over the past few months that is even half as egregious. I shall wait for an accounting.

Until I see it, I must say that it seems to me that you are conjuring "both sides are about the same" fears when the reality of the past few months has dashed those kinds of assumptions. If it were true, counter-BLM protests should be similarly violent and raucous, and they are not.

The only situation I can see where that happens is if a future Democratic president tried launching massive gun confiscations like Harris wants to. I would expect a lot of Ruby Ridges and Wacos if that happened.

There's been an apparatus for a long term that indirectly vilified Republicans and a large part of that is the media. I mean it's been super easy to poke fun at the Republicans for the past 50 years, to be fair, especially from a city-folk perspective. I think the internet backfired in a very unanticipated and unpredictable way that has only ended up benfiting the GOP because Trump is Shitposter in Chief and understands the internet surprisingly well for a literal boomer billionaire. Most Republicans don't understand it and to be fair, neither do most Democrats, but the Democrats have the benefit of connections that understand and are directly involved in large parts of internet culture.

It's interesting, if anything.

I don't think there's any difference in computer illiteracy between parties. Both are run by the elderly, not just Trump and Biden but also Pelosi, McConnell, Romney, Sanders, etc.

 

[X Prime]

Both sides have both a proven and increasing chance of losing their minds after the election.
Touching on the right wing, it really wouldn’t shock me if a right winger finally decided to go through with their uprising fantasies and took a shot at Biden or another Democrat. I’ve been noticing a increasing agreement between them that violence is inevitable and their tired of constantly losing to the left. They’ve been peaceful so far, but that’s gotten them nowhere and they know it.

Now see, here's what interests me about this kind of sentiment. It's right on its face, but you have two diametrically opposing sentences:

"Both sides have both a proven and increasing chance of losing their minds after the election."

and

"They’ve been peaceful so far, but that’s gotten them nowhere and they know it."

It seems to me that the second thing disproves the first. The far right has been peaceful despite BLM and antifa rampaging through multiple places for months. They know, for a fact, that if they counter-protest they will be jailed while Antifa goes scot free, because Antifa has institutional backing.

I think the fear of the far-Right in America is simply unfounded, because... where's the track record? It never pans out.

 

[Aidan]

The only situation I can see where that happens is if a future Democratic president tried launching massive gun confiscations like Harris wants to. I would expect a lot of Ruby Ridges and Wacos if that happened.

I don't think there's any difference in computer illiteracy between parties. Both are run by the elderly, not just Trump and Biden but also Pelosi, McConnell, Romney, Sanders, etc.

Yeah, which is why I pointed at the "apparatus" that the Democrats work with and have for decades, if not over a century at this point. Hollywood was controversially lefty from the very early days, even being a large part of the Red Scare. I haven't done any research into the matter but I think it's safe to say that there's a longstanding relationship that has grown into other facets of media that people regularly consume that is essentially pro-Democrat propaganda, if only loosely most of the time.

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

So basically.

"If you want me to be the bad guy, then I guess I'm the bad guy"

Pretty much. From what I’ve seen them say, they don’t have any reputation to lose if they attack and that their morals are holding them back.

Now see, here's what interests me about this kind of sentiment. It's right on its face, but you have two diametrically opposing sentences:

"Both sides have both a proven and increasing chance of losing their minds after the election."

and

"They’ve been peaceful so far, but that’s gotten them nowhere and they know it."

It seems to me that the second thing disproves the first. The far right has been peaceful despite BLM and antifa rampaging through multiple places for months. They know, for a fact, that if they counter-protest they will be jailed while Antifa goes scot free, because Antifa has institutional backing.

I think the fear of the far-Right in America is simply unfounded, because... where's the track record? It never pans out.

I meant to put the Left and Right for those respective things. The Left has a proven record of it, while I’m seeing a increasing chance of the Right flipping out.

 

[X Prime]

So basically.

"If you want me to be the bad guy, then I guess I'm the bad guy"

You know what's extremely funny about this sentiment?

Perhaps you have heard about a book called The New Jim Crow. It's quite influential, and attempts to explain why American black culture is so awful and rife with criminality from a left-wing perspective. They complain about Bill Cosby and his "pull your pants up" comments, before he was put in jail. Basically all the standard left-wing excuses informed and come from this book, in a sort of incestuous regurgitation.

You know what one of those excuses is? Their parents and teachers think they will be bad, so black male kids act bad.

Why, oh why, do I suspect they won't let the far-Right or Republicans use the same excuse?

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Yeah, which is why I pointed at the "apparatus" that the Democrats work with and have for decades, if not over a century at this point. Hollywood was controversially lefty from the very early days, even being a large part of the Red Scare. I haven't done any research into the matter but I think it's safe to say that there's a longstanding relationship that has grown into other facets of media that people regularly consume that is essentially pro-Democrat propaganda, if only loosely most of the time.

There is also conservative leaning media in the form of talk radio (Rush Limbaugh in particular) and websites like Breitbart. Hollywood has leaned left for a long time but it's more that right wing media is separated than that it doesn't exist.

Various polls have suggested that most voters know that Hunter Biden is involved in some kind of scandal, despite left wing media not reporting it.

 

[Oats12345]

Yeah, which is why I pointed at the "apparatus" that the Democrats work with and have for decades, if not over a century at this point. Hollywood was controversially lefty from the very early days, even being a large part of the Red Scare. I haven't done any research into the matter but I think it's safe to say that there's a longstanding relationship that has grown into other facets of media that people regularly consume that is essentially pro-Democrat propaganda, if only loosely most of the time.

I know most people say Hollywood was awalys Democrat. But that's not true have you every looked up alot of famous actors from years ago that were Republicans. There were alot.

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

For the last 20 years (yeah, even including the 2000 presidential election) I have never seen this sentiment imposed as strongly as this year. At least in the previous presidential elections you could support and vote for bunch of independent candidates or candidates from non-state opposition parties. 2016 was all about "if you vote for Trump, you are literally a nazi", but today, in 2020 it's all about "If you don't vote for Biden, you are literally a nazi". That's a freaking huge difference, dude.

Because for the Left, and for the Right a little bit, it’s turned into “your either with us or against us” and if you don’t show blind support, your dead.