The Transableism Movement

[Ho Mo for Women]

Tumblr just keeps ascending to new levels of stupid doesn't it? It was bad enough when pretending to be trans or mentally ill was the hip and trendy thing to do, but this is something else. And it's beyond insulting to actual disabled people. People who can walk perfectly fine using wheelchairs and parking in handicap spaces just because they think it's cool is unbelievably obnoxious and entitled. Normally, I just laugh at Tumblr special snowflakes, but I feel completely disgusted by these assholes.

 

[seagull]

The only time I've seen posts about being transabled on tumblr, it was pretty clearly trolling.

There are however some blogs about BIID which you may find interesting:

• http://embodiment-and-integrity.tumblr.com/
• http://b11d.tumblr.com/
• http://swankyjanks.tumblr.com/tagged/biid (note that this person runs the b11d blog)
• http://that-one-biid-blog.tumblr.com/ (this person feels very clearly that their situation is very different from being "transabled")

That said, the reason why I'm having a hard time finding "transabled" people on tumblr may be that frequently when people claim a condition that is this controversial, they'll use "secret" tags to try to keep people from trolling them relentlessly (like #oddnose for otherkin, before everyone figured that out).

 

[The Lizard Queen]

The only time I've seen posts about being transabled on tumblr, it was pretty clearly trolling.

There are however some blogs about BIID which you may find interesting:

• http://embodiment-and-integrity.tumblr.com/
• http://b11d.tumblr.com/
• http://swankyjanks.tumblr.com/tagged/biid (note that this person runs the b11d blog)
• http://that-one-biid-blog.tumblr.com/ (this person feels very clearly that their situation is very different from being "transabled")

That said, the reason why I'm having a hard time finding "transabled" people on tumblr may be that frequently when people claim a condition that is this controversial, they'll use "secret" tags to try to keep people from trolling them relentlessly (like #oddnose for otherkin, before everyone figured that out).

"Transableism" goes by a number of different names, the most common being things like "Stump-Play," or "Pretender (meaning, pretending to be disabled),"

Most of the transableists try to pin their desires on some kind of birth defect or neurological disorder that can only be resolved by becoming disabled. It is true that there are a few people who have genuine brain damage that causes them to disassociate parts of their body, but these cases are extremely rare, and often have other noticeable effects beyond just wanting an arm removed.

However, I'd say the vast majority of transableists and transableist supporters that you'll find in online communities are in it for the paraphilia.

It becomes clear when you visit their blogs, DA pages, and other BIID dedicated sites that it goes well beyond a simple mental disorder. In fact, many transableists are often vague about what part of the body they want damaged, and their desires can change from year to year. It seems more in line with psychiatric disorders like Munchhausen's, where the patient is looking for attention and wants the disability for that reason.

But just because they may (or may not) have some kind of disorder does not change the fact that it's definitely a sex thing...
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Amputee-340457290
Just read the comments on that page.

 

[nad7155]

I read about this a few years ago.

I guess I blocked it out of my mind because it was so wow.

Freaky stuff.

 

[Kazami Yuuka]

You know when this is bad? When Alex Jones does a piece on transabled people!

Spoiler: Warning - Alex Jones rant

 

[Trombonista]

I could have sworn we already had a thread on these people, but I think it hasn't been bumped in months.

 

[sonichuis44]

tbh I feel for people who have a brain thing that makes them feel like a part of their body doesn't belong. They have a hard row to sow, and I wish them the best.

The fetishists can go fuck themselves right off.

Spoiler

I used to hang out in an irc channel for trans people, what finally made me leave was this one girl who would constantly come in and beg for asspats, claiming the doctors refused to treat her dysphoria. One day I asked her to elaborate, and she explained that she felt like she shoudl be an armless naga*, and she understood that she'd be effectively on disability for life if she had her arms and legs cut off, but she really really wanted it so the doctors were evil for denying her


*imagine a mermaid but half snake instead of half fish

 

[Ho Mo for Women]

tbh I feel for people who have a brain thing that makes them feel like a part of their body doesn't belong. They have a hard row to sow, and I wish them the best.

The fetishists can go fuck themselves right off.

Spoiler

I used to hang out in an irc channel for trans people, what finally made me leave was this one girl who would constantly come in and beg for asspats, claiming the doctors refused to treat her dysphoria. One day I asked her to elaborate, and she explained that she felt like she shoudl be an armless naga*, and she understood that she'd be effectively on disability for life if she had her arms and legs cut off, but she really really wanted it so the doctors were evil for denying her


*imagine a mermaid but half snake instead of half fish

Wait, so she would intrude on meetings for transgender people to bitch about how doctors wouldn't turn her into a mythical creature? Did she think that was actually something doctors were capable of doing in the first place?

 

[sonichuis44]

Wait, so she would intrude on meetings for transgender people to bitch about how doctors wouldn't turn her into a mythical creature? Did she think that was actually something doctors were capable of doing in the first place?

"Meetings for transgender people" would be extremely generous - this was the hugboxiest channel you've ever seen. I mean Tumblr could take lessons from them. The naga-girl was actually a regular, and iirc also had autism and BPD (fucking shocker, I know). The other regulars all gave her tons of sympathy, and a couple even went so far as to agree with her that the doctors should amputate her arms. This all happened a long time ago when I was a babby internet user, so it took me longer than it should have to realize they were all retarded.

 

[The Lizard Queen]

One thing I will say about the Transableists is that out of all the Lolcows on the forums, these are the only ones that have the ability to make me feel nauseous or even physically ill. The wrongness goes way beyond funny right into the realm of the seriously disturbing.

 

[CalmMyTits]

I could have sworn we already had a thread on these people, but I think it hasn't been bumped in months.

I did start a thread about disability fetishism last year or two years ago, though it's been a while since anyone posted to it.

 

[Rabbit Bones]

It's Springer so it has to be taken with a grain of salt. But after failing with a hammer and a syringe full of shit, he used a power saw to cut his legs off .

 

[PeteyCoffee]

I want someone to explain this to me.

How is it cool and healthy for a person to hate his or her private parts and want them removed, but horrifying and sick for a person to think the exact same thing about a different body part?

Edit - In other words, it's awful to remove a body part, but not that body part.

 

[Delicious Stickmeat]

I want someone to explain this to me.

How is it cool and healthy for a person to hate his or her private parts and want them removed, but horrifying and sick for a person to think the exact same thing about a different body part?

Here's your legit medical explanation:
It's actually not cool or healthy to hate your private parts to the degree that you want them removed. SRS and other such surgeries are only considered after multiple other modes of treatment have been attempted, and failed. It's a last resort fix.

The reason SRS is considered ethically OK is basically quality of life. Th QoL for a GD patient improves on performing SRS, and the surgery itself generally doesn't impair day to day living (excluding complications). As for other body parts, the QoL harm outweighs any sort of mental benefit. Chopping off your sexbits isn't going to objectively impair your day to day living like, say, chopping off an arm or a leg.

 

[PeteyCoffee]

Here's your legit medical explanation:
It's actually not cool or healthy to hate your private parts to the degree that you want them removed. SRS and other such surgeries are only considered after multiple other modes of treatment have been attempted, and failed. It's a last resort fix.

The reason SRS is considered ethically OK is basically quality of life. Th QoL for a GD patient improves on performing SRS, and the surgery itself generally doesn't impair day to day living (excluding complications). As for other body parts, the QoL harm outweighs any sort of mental benefit. Chopping off your sexbits isn't going to objectively impair your day to day living like, say, chopping off an arm or a leg.

Then having one's pinky or little toe amputated (for mental benefit) must fit into the same non-awful category. Those modifications also wouldn't seriously impair day to day living like, say, chopping off an arm or a leg.

 

[Delicious Stickmeat]

Then having one's pinky or little toe amputated (for mental benefit) must fit into the same non-awful category. Those modifications also wouldn't seriously impair day to day living like, say, chopping off an arm or a leg.

You'd be surprised how much losing your little finger/toe will fuck with you. Messes up your ability to grip things, and can screw with walking. It's still a harm to quality of life, which has to be considered. The QoL harm regarding sexual organs is purely psychological in nature, which is one way that SRS is justified. Many years of alternate treatment attempts are tried before SRS even gets considered.

As I said, loss of sex organs is ultimately a psych issue overall. It doesn't have the impact on physical QoL that say, losing a limb would have. If the standards are that high for a purely psych issue, imagine how high they'd be for something with an actual impact on day to day living.

 

[drtoboggan]

Anyone with a missing finger or toe have phantom limb feeling? I know it happens with a missing extremity, generally as pain.

 

[The Lizard Queen]

Both disorders are technically mental issues, but with many transgenders, the disorder aspect overthrows their entire life. There's no drug for it, and the best they can do is cope. Since there is no drug that can solve the problem then sometimes the only way to improve quality of life is surgery.

However, there are plenty of transgenders who are only transgender because they are going through some kind of life crisis (like Chris) and want to escape themselves. Often therapy can resolve their issues without surgery. However, even if they still want to go through with it, transitioning can take years, what with all the hormones and even minor surgeries that are involved. That's plenty of time for the patent to change their mind on the issue.
It's similar with the transablists, but again, it's a quality of life issue. Still, once that arm is off, it's gone. There's not lots of pills and minor surgeries leading up to it. It takes less than 20 minutes to chop it.

And what happens when they turn out to be one of the kinds that are just going through some kind of life crisis and don't actually want to be transablists? You can't get an arm back, but you can switch back to being make and female in appearance.

As for those who do it for fetish reasons, screw those guys... or wait, don't. Don't screw them.

 

[MarineTrainedTard]

I support amputation fetishists removing extremities to get their rocks off.

As long as they start with their heads

 

[AnOminous]

How is it cool and healthy for a person to hate his or her private parts and want them removed, but horrifying and sick for a person to think the exact same thing about a different body part?

Horrifying or sick is pretty much a value judgment. But it's because society (through the medical establishment) has decided that one surgery has therapeutically positive outcomes for enough of the recipients to justify a surgical intervention, and the other doesn't.

It's hard to speak of proof at the moment, but what we know of differences in brain anatomy is at least strongly suggestive there's actually a legitimate neurological basis behind why some people would be better off in a body that isn't of their XX/XY genetic sex, while wanting a limb or other functional organ like an eye removed is "just crazy."

So the medical intervention for one group is, for at least some, surgery, while the other group is treated for the specific delusion/obsession to try to remove it. Possibly, there might at some point be some group of people where, as awful as it is, the surgical intervention is better than leaving them as they are, especially if otherwise they'll do something desperate. But it's pretty alien to surgeons and doctors in general to do something that can only medically be considered "doing harm" in the Hippocratic oath sense.

(Also, in gender reassignment, they don't technically remove the private parts other than the testicles, just rather radically reconfigure them. Most tissue is saved. For MtF they effectively peel it like a banana and turn it inside out.)