Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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And since we see Left or Right echo-chambers all the time in YouTube comment sections or on Websites that tend to have a bias towards one side or the other, it's really difficult for any of us to determine who will really win any Election at all.
Good god, ain't that the truth. That was part of my statement earlier about the normies not knowing about the (severity of the) riots. We're in that sphere and get constant updates. The vast, vast majority of people are not. It ends up skewing our perception of what the average person knows or cares about. A tweet with half a million likes saying how horrible a riot is does not translate to that sentiment spilling out to the general public.

Bernie is a good example of this. If you just went by twitter you'd think he was messiah of the god damn world. He's pretty contentious outside of the internet echo chamber and college food courts.
 
That they were, but even then those only occurred around the Mike Brown incident in Ferguson and on a much, much smaller scale.

The Mike Brown protests happened all over the country, and you're completely glossing over the additional riots caused by Grey, Garner, and Martin.

They're also protests specifically against THIS current president

No, they were protesting black people getting shot, just like they were in 2015. The only "riots" we've seen caused by Trump never got past screaming and crying impotently in the middle of the street.
 
Trump has "a 10% chance of winning"?

deja vu

I predict Trump will win. The left has gotten far more crazy than they were in 2016, and they were pretty crazy in 2016. Cornapanic certainly didn't help. Also I (also) predicted that the George Floyd riots are going to morph into Orange Man Bad riots when and if Trump wins. Expect possible curfews again.

On the plus side, coronapanic may end after the election and by tax season, as many have predicted.
If 2020 isn't going to convince the Left to get their shit together, I don't know what will.
 
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It would be funny if trump did I pull a Reagan style 84 election
oh my god, my jaw would drop.
The more likelier scenario though is 2004.
As funny as that would be, no Republican Presidential cantidate has taken California since 1988. Bush 41 was the last to pull it off. That was also when California could manage to cough up an actual GOP governor (no, Arnie doesn't count, but Pete Wilson does).

There is absolutely zero chance Trump can do it. This is one of these predictions that I'm so sure of, that I'd actually make a silly embarrassing bet over it.
 
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Having the ability to enforce it helps, but here's the deal; I concede maybe with alcohol it was different but the increase in drug use directly parallels the decline of the rustbelt. You can look at the prosperous era before free trade hollowed out that region of the US, and you see very few people using opioids. It is an opioid epidemic, mainly. You can look at other drugs and see if the pattern doesn't hold up, but the lower middle class middle aged white worker in the rustbelt is addicted to opioids.

ElqNZaoXYAgEt3o.jpgchalabi-datalab-alcohol-1.pngLook at this chart, this chart shows that alcohol consumption was already going down by the roaring twenties, and then prohibition happened and we have no data for consumption during that period. But look at where consumption is after it's repealed. it's at a record low, meaning that overall consumption went down during that period
Wrong, but you're still dodging around the point: these existed, and the government failed to stop them. Prohibition didn't work, because the government was unable to enforce it. You keep trying to play the economic circumstances card, but what I and the others here have been trying to tell you is that "why" doesn't matter: either the government has sufficient power and resources to enforce a ban, or it does not. Sometimes people generally go along with the ban, and thus it is easier to enforce, or sometimes its so widespread as to be utterly hopeless, but the single common thread is that law means nothing without the ability to enforce it.
 
Good god, ain't that the truth. That was part of my statement earlier about the normies not knowing about the (severity of the) riots. We're in that sphere and get constant updates. The vast, vast majority of people are not. It ends up skewing our perception of what the average person knows or cares about. A tweet with half a million likes saying how horrible a riot is does not translate to that sentiment spilling out to the general public.

Bernie is a good example of this. If you just went by twitter you'd think he was messiah of the god damn world. He's pretty contentious outside of the internet echo chamber and college food courts.
Kiwi Farms has people from all walks of life, but a good portion does lean towards the Right (including Null). And since we have over 52k members, I'd caution people to not take anything from the Internet regarding our Election too seriously.

Rather if it be Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, YouTube, and even us, I would strongly caution everyone who goes on the Internet to not assume either candidate will win just because you see a shit ton of their supporters in a thread or comment section somewhere. Only the official results will tell you the honest truth.
 
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As funny as that would be, no Republican Presidential cantidate has taken California since 1988. Bush 41 was the last to pull it off. That was also when California could manage to cough up an actual GOP governor (no, Arnie doesn't count, but Pete Wilson does).

There is absolutely zero chance Trump can do it. This is one of these predictions that I'm so sure of, that I'd actually make a silly embarrassing bet over it.
Imo speculating about California is just silly and lowers the credibility of whatever else that person is saying. There's a slightly higher chance that earth will wildly spin off of it's axis tomorrow than California turning red.
 
Imo speculating about California is just silly and lowers the credibility of whatever else that person is saying. There's a slightly higher chance that earth will wildly spin off of it's axis tomorrow than California turning red.
California is long gone for the Republicans.
If they aren't able to preserve Texas in the next 5-10 years, it will get even worse.
 
Imo speculating about California is just silly and lowers the credibility of whatever else that person is saying. There's a slightly higher chance that earth will wildly spin off of it's axis tomorrow than California turning red.
It's never wrong to dream, however.

Honestly if Cali turns red I'll crack open a wine bottle just to get through the mountains of salt that'd be bound to be spilled. It'd be glorious. Alas, :optimistic:.
 
No, they were protesting black people getting shot, just like they were in 2015. The only "riots" we've seen caused by Trump never got past screaming and crying impotently in the middle of the street.
Tell me, do you think any of the people in those riots/protests liked or supported Trump? Do you think any of those people voted for Trump?
 
Tell me, do you think any of the people in those riots/protests liked or supported Trump? Do you think any of those people voted for Trump?
No, but they don't like Biden either and those who are voting for him are only doing it because he's not Trump. If he gets elected, they'll still cry because neither he nor Kamala have any interest in prosecuting cops or doing anything woke enough for their tastes.

The wokest things we can expect from these two are meaningless gestures.
 
Imo speculating about California is just silly and lowers the credibility of whatever else that person is saying. There's a slightly higher chance that earth will wildly spin off of it's axis tomorrow than California turning red.
If there's one thing I am 120% sure of, it's that Biden has at least 84 electoral votes in the bag. That's the combined total of California and New York.

Anybody who thinks otherwise is just being silly. If you are a Trump supporter, you will sound more rational in sperging about the need to nuke those two shitholes, rather than hypothesizing how you could potentially flip them.
 
If there's one thing I am 120% sure of, it's that Biden has at least 84 electoral votes in the bag. That's the combined total of California and New York.

Anybody who thinks otherwise is just being silly. If you are a Trump supporter, you will sound more rational in sperging about the need to nuke those two shitholes, rather than hypothesizing how you could potentially flip them.
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