Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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California is long gone for the Republicans.
If they aren't able to preserve Texas in the next 5-10 years, it will get even worse.
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There's actually a somewhat decent chance Biden will take Arizona. We're basically purple now. Arpaio lost his Sheriff election in 2016 (one of the few pieces of good news Dems got that night, even though it's a local election), and was knocked out in the GOP primary to take it back this year.

I think Mark Kelly will take Martha McSally's seat. Then we'll have two Democrats in the Senate. An ex-astonaunt (which we had before, in John Glenn) and a bimbo with nice tits (Sinema).
 
So, I conducted my last poll in the household. First, I went to my wife. She said "If you ask me about this again I'm getting a divorce." Obviously, that means she's undecided. I then went to my oldest. She asked me what an election was, so I told her if she wanted Hans or Elsa. She chose Elsa. Obviously a vote for Biden. I then polled my youngest. She said "baaaa" while pointing at a sheep. Obviously, she thinks Orange man is Bad and only sheeple are voting for him.

Lastly, I went to the dog. He said "Trump." Obviously ignored that result because everyone knows A) dogs can't vote and B) dogs are fucking racist.

So, my final results were 2 for Biden, 1 undecided. Since my statistics show that undecideds break for Biden 70-30, I rounded up and got 100% Biden. This is up from 66% Biden in my last poll (oldest was in dance class, so I flipped a coin)

I sent the results to Nate Silver, he's given my poll an A rating. Biden's going to take PA and with it the US. Sure, I don't live in PA, but that doesn't matter when it comes to polling. It's not about the numbers. It's about the gut feeling.

Seriously, I hope Trump wins. But if he doesn't I'll laugh either way.
 
There's actually a somewhat decent chance Biden will take Arizona. We're basically purple now. Arpaio lost his Sheriff election in 2016 (one of the few pieces of good news Dems got that night, even though it's a local election), and was knocked out in the GOP primary to take it back.

I think Mark Kelly will take Martha McSally's seat. Then we'll have two Democrats in the Senate. An ex-astonaunt (which we had before, in John Glenn) and a bimbo with nice tits (Sinema).
In regards to Congress:
Democrats will keep the House.
Republicans will barely keep the Senate. (51-49)
 
Biden winning could calm some people down, but I don't think the riots would end there completely.
Yes, to the rioters, Biden & Harris are corporate democrats, which they view as only slightly less repugnant than Republicans. They're temporarily unified now in their mission to defeat Trump, but once that's dealt with, expect the left wing in fighting to commence with a vengeance.

Additionally, if Biden wins, expect them to get emboldened as well because now they've been conditioned that torching entire cities gets them whatever they want.
 
Partially hoping Biden wins because he's less obnoxious than Trump, but honestly I just want Americans to shut the fuck up for a bit. I just want peace and quiet from them by the time December rolls around.

You haven't been paying close enough attention if you think things are going to be quiet once Trump is gone.

In regards to Congress:
Democrats will keep the House.
Republicans will barely keep the Senate. (51-49)

Impeachment 2.0 Electric Boogaloo if Trump is re-elected.
 
As funny as that would be, no Republican Presidential cantidate has taken California since 1988. Bush 41 was the last to pull it off. That was also when California could manage to cough up an actual GOP governor (no, Arnie doesn't count, but Pete Wilson does).

There is absolutely zero chance Trump can do it. This is one of these predictions that I'm so sure of, that I'd actually make a silly embarrassing bet over it.
yeah it's unlikely .The only way republicans could take back California is if they support small local elections build that support up over time years even then maybe California would flip red
No matter what happens, we will ALWAYS have 2016, and for that I am grateful.

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I miss 2016 sometimes
 
I mean being a historyfag, I just don't think this is a good sign for an incumbent. People brought up Bush Sr. and I think historically that's like the best thing to point to. Going into this year, unless if it was like Sanders or something really really exciting we weren't gonna get shit. Because we didn't get a blue wave in 2018. That and I will always cite low turn out as how Trump won. The old rule of thumb has been that low turn out works for Republicans. If the reporting on higher numbers is true, I don't think it's a good chance for Trump. Like you just don't have a spike in turnout for an incumbent. That's weird. You get that when people want to flip something.

It's all just wishful thinking, because I'm so goddamn sick of Trump. I'm so sick of him saying and doing stupid shit, where I just keep going "he can't do that, please stop throwing a fit over this." He's like that one dipshit in D&D who is making up these stupid edgelord concepts and plays. And as a historyfag I'd like to just to talk politics again without it feeling like the other guy sees it as life and death. I like talking politics, a lot. And it has gotten a lot less fun since he's been in office.
 
I mean being a historyfag, I just don't think this is a good sign for an incumbent. People brought up Bush Sr. and I think historically that's like the best thing to point to. Going into this year, unless if it was like Sanders or something really really exciting we weren't gonna get shit. Because we didn't get a blue wave in 2018. That and I will always cite low turn out as how Trump won. The old rule of thumb has been that low turn out works for Republicans. If the reporting on higher numbers is true, I don't think it's a good chance for Trump. Like you just don't have a spike in turnout for an incumbent. That's weird. You get that when people want to flip something.

It's all just wishful thinking, because I'm so goddamn sick of Trump. I'm so sick of him saying and doing stupid shit, where I just keep going "he can't do that, please stop throwing a fit over this." He's like that one dipshit in D&D who is making up these stupid edgelord concepts and plays. And as a historyfag I'd like to just to talk politics again without it feeling like the other guy sees it as life and death. I like talking politics, a lot. And it has gotten a lot less fun since he's been in office.
Trump is definitely no Bush Sr, Ford, or even Jimmy Carter.
He's in a similar position to W in 2004.
 
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I mean being a historyfag, I just don't think this is a good sign for an incumbent. People brought up Bush Sr. and I think historically that's like the best thing to point to. Going into this year, unless if it was like Sanders or something really really exciting we weren't gonna get shit. Because we didn't get a blue wave in 2018. That and I will always cite low turn out as how Trump won. The old rule of thumb has been that low turn out works for Republicans. If the reporting on higher numbers is true, I don't think it's a good chance for Trump. Like you just don't have a spike in turnout for an incumbent. That's weird. You get that when people want to flip something.

It's all just wishful thinking, because I'm so goddamn sick of Trump. I'm so sick of him saying and doing stupid shit, where I just keep going "he can't do that, please stop throwing a fit over this." He's like that one dipshit in D&D who is making up these stupid edgelord concepts and plays. And as a historyfag I'd like to just to talk politics again without it feeling like the other guy sees it as life and death. I like talking politics, a lot. And it has gotten a lot less fun since he's been in office.
You're boring, idiotic violent spastics being at each others throat is the most fun politics has ever been for decades.
 
Having the ability to enforce it helps, but here's the deal; I concede maybe with alcohol it was different but the increase in drug use directly parallels the decline of the rustbelt. You can look at the prosperous era before free trade hollowed out that region of the US, and you see very few people using opioids. It is an opioid epidemic, mainly. You can look at other drugs and see if the pattern doesn't hold up, but the lower middle class middle aged white worker in the rustbelt is addicted to opioids.

View attachment 1700987View attachment 1700993Look at this chart, this chart shows that alcohol consumption was already going down by the roaring twenties, and then prohibition happened and we have no data for consumption during that period. But look at where consumption is after it's repealed. it's at a record low, meaning that overall consumption went down during that period
It doesn't help, it's everything. Okay, let me put it this way: when a ban is in place, every person subject to the ban has two choices "follow law" or "do [thing]". This is where the circumstances you like bringing up come into play: someone who already didn't do [thing] will almost certainly default to "follow law" (a small percentage of individuals willing to do something illegal out of spite for the government notwithstanding), and from there people will statistically begin leaning towards "do [thing]" as the degree to which [thing] is entwined into their lives increases, be that gangsters and handguns or alcoholics and liquor. This is particularly troublesome with bans made in response to something, as the kind of people that caused enough trouble to incite the ban in the first place are also likely the ones who will give the fewest fucks about the ban. Thus, the government has restricted the liberties of those who choose "follow law" and received in return a justification to punish those who "do [thing]". The government must, therefore be able to take action to make good on that justification, or all it has done is restrict the liberties of the people for no tangible benefit to them.

That's the point I'm trying to make. Wither it's guns or drugs or alcohol, a ban that can't be enforced is useless because no matter how much impact on the total numbers you make, you haven't solved the problem because the people that brought on the ban in the first place are the least likely to abide by it.
 
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Let's go Jo....Jo Jorgensen
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Yes, to the rioters, Biden & Harris are corporate democrats, which they view as only slightly less repugnant than Republicans. They're temporarily unified now in their mission to defeat Trump, but once that's dealt with, expect the left wing in fighting to commence with a vengeance.

Additionally, if Biden wins, expect them to get emboldened as well because now they've been conditioned that torching entire cities gets them whatever they want.
The good thing about Harris (who I honestly think is going to end up taking over the presidency from Joe Biden), is that she's already conditioned to be a natural enemy of criminals. She was a prosecutor.

The bad thing about Harris is that she fucked over a number of innocent people when she was California's AG. She has a track record of prosecutorial misconduct.

Hard nosed prosecutors are a double edged sword. I don't think Antifa and BLM are gonna be particularly happy with either Biden or Harris after the honeymoon period is over. If cities are still burning after orange man is gone, I don't believe this scenario being pushed that they're just gonna let it happen. These aren't the super lefty democrats that are "true believers." These are the "establishment democrats."
 
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