Pyrocynical / Niall Comas - Inflation / Furshit / Weird Allegations

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Sadlad said:
That's pretty damning. However can we really call what he did with this kid grooming, or was it just him being a bit too horny for his own good?
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My current opinion is the latter. I haven't seen anything about Pyrocynical trying to get nudes or sex out of Ivory. Intent to push things into real life action is a defining factor of grooming. If Pyro's intent was to get into Ivory's pants you'd expect at least one dick pic to pop up during the 3-4 years they were talking.

I think Pyro was wrapped up in the same fucked up but normalized furry ERP behavior described earlier by Cactus Wings. People thinking a monitor softens the reality of their actions isn't a furry specific phenomenon but they delude themselves more than normal people. The screens and fursonas make them forget an adult and a minor "just ERPing" is still an adult and a minor jerking each other off. None of them want to admit that's what it is either because it would bring up too many painful realizations about what they've been doing. It's comfier to keep your head in the sand and your hand in your pants.

Based on Pyrocynical deleting a lot of stuff relating to his fetish ERPs, removing public displays of his fetish, and the current lack of accusations about him starting this with more minors after 2017/2018, he may have had a come-to-God moment. I think he realized it was wrong and backed off. I don't think he's pedo or a groomer. It currently looks like it was an unfortunate combination of his YouTube content bringing in an audience of minors and him not having proper boundaries. He still needs to take his lashes though. His intent is important to take into account but it doesn't change that his actions hurt people.
 
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Velcheetah said:
My current opinion is the latter. I haven't seen anything about Pyrocynical trying to get nudes or sex out of Ivory. Intent to push things into real life action is a defining factor of grooming. If Pyro's intent was to get into Ivory's pants you'd expect at least one dick pic to pop up during the 3-4 years they were talking.

I think Pyro was wrapped up in the same fucked up but normalized furry ERP behavior described earlier by Cactus Wings. People thinking a monitor softens the reality of their actions isn't a furry specific phenomenon but they delude themselves more than normal people. The screens and fursonas make them forget an adult and a minor "just ERPing" is still an adult and a minor jerking each other off. None of them want to admit that's what it is either because it would bring up too many painful realizations about what they've been doing. It's comfier to keep your head in the sand and your hand in your pants.

Based on Pyrocynical deleting a lot of stuff relating to his fetish ERPs, removing public displays of his fetish, and the current lack of accusations about him starting this minors after 2017/2018, he may have had a come-to-God moment. I think he realized it was wrong and backed off. I don't think he's pedo or a groomer. It currently looks like it was an unfortunate combination of his YouTube content bringing in an audience of minors and him not having proper boundaries. He still needs to take his lashes though. His intent is important to take into account but it doesn't change that his actions hurt people.
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I would argue that many paedophiles who have went under the radar so far are only managing to do so because in their head it's a 'risk/reward' situation. Someone with Pyro's level of YT following and income might be able restrict themselves to a degree, and not follow through with what they really want because of the consequences that could arise should they come to light.

It's far easier to distance yourself from some OC bullshit rather than dick pics/sexting/whatever you'd call it. By using a fursona/PC screen instead of yourself IRL, it could be seen as a means to sidestep the problem.
 
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Like I said earlier, I'm still not convinced he's a no-shit pedophile. He's more than likely a cumbrained sociopath who messes around with any "fan" that expresses some kind of interest in shared kinks instead of just using f-list like a normal degenerate. He allows the freaks to come to him instead of seeking them out and probably just doesn't know or care to vet his potential "partners."
 
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ThrowAWay2Me said:
https://twitter.com/HTMLRandomDude/status/1322310654838099968?s=19 Thoughts?
(https://archive.md/1KoS7)
Edit: Fuck me sideways this was mentioned early on in the thread. Think I read through too fast. Disregard this shit.)
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You can see in the screen recording that Ivory sang the e-fame song on November 11 2016. He was not singing about the recent accusations. He explained in his interview with Tommy C that he would mess around with his piano on voice calls and do improv joke songs about whatever people were talking about.
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https://twitter.com/KrasPootis/status/1321922953261518849 / https://archive.md/h58YU

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Pyrocynical's Accuser Ivory Tells All (Full Interview)

Ivory's audio is not very good I did not want to stop the interview just because of a few clicks, I didn't want to spook him, I wanted to keep the flow. This...
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The recording of Ivory wanting Pyrocynical to promote his music is a nothingburger. Unless there is proof of something like Ivory threatening to destroy Pyro if he doesn't give in to demands for attention, a recording of a 15 year old having a pissant episode because he felt ignored is only evidence of a 15 year old acting like a typical 15 year old.

Ivory blocking KrasPootis after they revealed they had committed a potentially illegal breach of his privacy (depending on if Kras lives in an area with two-party consent laws) is not a sign he's hiding something. It's normal human behavior to be freaked out and mad at someone who recorded you without your knowledge. Especially considering Kras was clearly trying to keep their conversation private as he asked to be moved to a private voice channel when others joined the call.

Kras has nothing to back up their claims that Ivory lied about his age. Holding onto recordings of random Discord calls from 2016 does not automatically make them a trustworthy source of information. It's also strange that someone who records so much of their online interactions suddenly doesn't have recordings when it comes to backing up their most damning claim.

Ivory still wanting to meet Pyro in November 2017 after the April 2017 ERP session is not proof Ivory wasn't hurt by what Pyro did. It's consistent with a star-struck fan not really thinking about what their idol is doing to them and not realizing how inappropriate it is until hindsight hits them later in life.

It's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Ivory was talking with the real Pyrocynical.

Thoughts: HTMLRandomDude is a mongoloid stan grasping at straws. Him and anyone else who thinks his thread is proof that Pyro is innocent needs to be sterilized to stop this rampant retardation from being bred into future generations.
 
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Hi guys, I was the one who asked Ivory for, & posted, the three minute video that had the full three years worth of conversations with Pyro. I think it's worth noting for the people who doubt the veracity of his claims, that no one had ever brought up any prior or future conversations at that point, and he had sent the full video to me via GDrive within ONE HOUR of me asking. Now either he has the typing skills, editing skills, and 2017/2018 news-media knowledge of an absolute fucking wizard, or he's not lying. I think it's pretty clear what the right answer is
 
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From what I see, every argument against Ivory seems to be flawed. Deleted user not being real cuz of the tag number? Flawed. Pyro "impostor" using American spelling? Flawed. Deleted user not accepting friend invites? Flawed. Chat logs being faked and that's not Pyro 'cuz "that's not how he behaves on the videos!!!"? Flawed.

The worst is that how they're attacking Ivory, making fun of him. I know that he is kind of retarded too, but really, they started attacking him because "the evidence was off and not enough". Like, seriously, if anyone would come forward against Pyro in the future, they will be scared that their life will be ruined. And the best is that the memes and joking about Ivory is mostly on Pyro's subreddit, that he and Dolan Dark have control over. And the argument that Pyro isn't a groomer, because he only sent porn. Like seriously, even then it's messed up and fucking retarded. He definitely should know that it's wrong and exposing fetishes to other people that you may know are underage is a big no-no (because, let's face it, when you send porn to random people, you should be always thinking like they're are minors. Even if they say they're 18.)

Also the nitpicking, Ivory says something a bit weird or sketchy and they are automatically believing Pyrocynical is innocent and 100% not guilty. It's fucking stupid.

Can't wait for Keemstar to report on his downfall, will be funny as fuck.
 
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Dood. said:
From what I see, every argument against Ivory seems to be flawed. Deleted user not being real cuz of the tag number? Flawed. Pyro "impostor" using American spelling? Flawed. Deleted user not accepting friend invites? Flawed. Chat logs being faked and that's not Pyro 'cuz "that's not how he behaves on the videos!!!"? Flawed.

The worst is that how they're attacking Ivory, making fun of him. I know that he is kind of retarded too, but really, they started attacking him because "the evidence was off and not enough". Like, seriously, if anyone would come forward against Pyro in the future, they will be scared that their life will be ruined. And the best is that the memes and joking about Ivory is mostly on Pyro's subreddit, that he and Dolan Dark have control over. And the argument that Pyro isn't a groomer, because he only sent porn. Like seriously, even then it's messed up and fucking retarded. He definitely should know that it's wrong and exposing fetishes to other people that you may know are underage is a big no-no (because, let's face it, when you send porn to random people, you should be always thinking like they're are minors. Even if they say they're 18.)

Also the nitpicking, Ivory says something a bit weird or sketchy and they are automatically believing Pyrocynical is innocent and 100% not guilty. It's fucking stupid.

Can't wait for Keemstar to report on his downfall, will be funny as fuck.
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I would honestly say you're retarded but the literal DM conversation from his GF, the smoking gun is right there. If she thought this was (and apparently was, there's some people saying Ivory has lied about being different ages before), why would the girlfriend give such shit takes like, "Yeah man you were fine with sending porn to Pyro you fucking freak idiot!"

It doesn't paint Pyro in a positive light but remember Keem is only chasing clout, it's like his Moby Dick after he fucked up reporting that 14 year old French girl and bumbling that up to a massive degree and getting caught sensationalizing it. I'd prefer someone sane and respectable take him down rather than a rat, because guys like Keem will prematurely ejaculate, fuck up the moneyshot before burying Pyro in a mountain of legit evidence.
 
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Velcheetah said:
Thoughts: HTMLRandomDude is a mongoloid stan grasping at straws. Him and anyone else who thinks his thread is proof that Pyro is innocent needs to be sterilized to stop this rampant retardation from being bred into future generations.
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The thing isn't just HTML. It's been a lot of shit going around as of late with all of social media. People have been canceling each other left and right over shaky allegations, all so they can get their own fifteen moments of fame. In this particular situation there's a lot of shit going on and names are involved that really make this a little bit fucky.

Whether or not any of the allegations are true, this was definitely a play to knock Pyro out of the game.
 
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