2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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These two vloggers had to flee China to the US. They comment on how China wants a civil war in the US

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5EbY9s5XXQ
https://archive.vn/rfHZZ

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Part 2

Part 3
 
More videos of ballots being filled in- a whole series of them in the link below connected to that earlier one. Archive if you can.

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The federal government still has control over its own elections though. There's no reason it can't decide to have its own ballots, manned by its own people, in their own stations separate from the states and, on top of that, insist on Voter ID. Why the federal government doesn't insist in doing this is beyond me.
I mean, do remember that the United States started as a loosely federated coalition of sovereign states. The elections being run individually by states are supposed to be how it's supposed to work.

You're right though. At this point it's easier to tear off that last veneer of federalism. Just remember that having the federal government run things do not automatically mean it's better. If nothing else, it just means it's easier to centralise corruption.
 
You guys are lucky. The closest thing to a bipartisan outlet here only hires right-wingers to laugh at them.

I'll definitely be way more appreciative of the freedoms we have.

I'd also like to point out how Italy handled the issue of media communication during the elections (don't forget Italian governments collapse every few years so this has pretty much become the unspoken code of conduit).
In the year 2000 Italy adopted a law called Par Condicio (equal conditions) where the following applies:

-all radio and tv channels must provide equity and impartiality of coverage during the election
-mandatory time slots for all major political parties on Rai, the public television, at no cost, for a length of 1 to 3 minutes for each (some years ago I watched a candidate for the Trotskyist party talking right before the animal rights/vegan party, though both received like 100 votes each)
- it's illegal to publish or broadcast polls in the timeframe of 15 days before an election; this electoral silence ends right after the polls close nationwide, allowing the distribution of exit polls and then the first real votes. Exit polls are usually extraordinarily close to the actual votes because people aren't afraid to tell they voted Lega or whatever right-wing party.
-in the same 15 days timeframe no politician running in said election can appear on television unless participating to one of previously mentioned debates etc (no Obama slamdunks/Michelle receiving a blowjob from Ellen DeGeneres the day before the election. No actors/popstars/movie directors anywhere.

Just to give you an example of how this works outside an election: yesterday morning there was a tv show with several politicians invited to debate the failure of the countermeasures against the pandemic.

Guests: 2 from the main ruling coalition, 1 from the opposition, 1 conservative and 1 liberal journalist, the governor or a conservative region and the former leader of Italy's Communist party, which dissolved like a decade ago. (The communist ripped the liberal ruling coalition to shreds btw, telling them they're selling the country to the globalists by imposing another lockdown on the small businesses)
Host: centrist host asking unpleasant questions to everyone involved. He interrupted the other guests twice when they avoided answering the question made.
Tv channel: lefty channel with unfunny lefty comedians where you can watch Gone with the Wind, a documentary on the Khmer Rouge and Fahrenheit 9/11 in the same month

And now that I'm reading all of this I guess Italy isn't really too bad after all.
 
The federal government still has control over its own elections though. There's no reason it can't decide to have its own ballots, manned by its own people, in their own stations separate from the states and, on top of that, insist on Voter ID. Why the federal government doesn't insist in doing this is beyond me.
Good point. Would probably be a bit of a logistical clusterfuck, but when has anything a government done not been one?
 
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"Can" is not "will". The pressure for Trump to concede is going to be enormous and there WILL be resignations.
Neocons and "principled conservatives" are the most pathetic politicians in the US. You can look with a mixture of awe and disgust at the levels that the DNC will stoop to in order to win, Neocons and principled conservatives will happily sit back and allow it to happen. Not a spine between them.
 
I'll be honest, this entire shenanigan has made me too tired to extensively track the election result aside from Election "Night". I've scanned through Baris and Barnes's Twitter (which are somehow still not banned), looking at this thread a few times, and that was that. Given what I know, I have to say this.

Words cannot describe how deeply humiliating this is. There are emerging third-world democracies that can conduct fair elections yet America - the most powerful nation in the world - cannot do the same. We watched as the DNC stole Michigan and Wisconsin. Now we watch in horror as they also steal Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada, and possibly North Carolina and Arizona too. And what are most of the GOP leaders doing about it, the McConnells of the world? Nothing, absolutely nothing. Maybe an half-assed reference to voter fraud, but that's about it. I had hope that maybe the Republican party was changing from its "principled loser" stance but once again I am left disappointed at the utter inaction of the GOP to the absolute evil that the DNC are committing right before our eyes. I have no faith in the Supreme Court ruling in Trump's favor as Kavanaugh is wishy-washy and Barrett is an unknown that recused herself during the Pennsylvania Supreme Court case.

Even if Trump somehow pulls out a win, they purposely destroyed the legitimacy of our electoral process. At least half of the nation will never trust it again, at least at the presidential level, either because the DNC stole it or Trump wins and the left refuses to accept it. If we cannot trust our own electoral system, do we even have a republic? The DNC, social media, and mainstream news media have sent a message that if they do not like the results, they will change it until the "correct" choice is added and installing Biden (and by proxy Harris) through fraud is how they are going to do it. Few things are worse in the world than destroying the legitimacy of a republic/democracy and the DNC have done exactly that. They have crossed the line and that is unforgivable.

I will not be tolerating a Biden-Harris administration. If there is a time to make significant changes in your life for what is coming, the time is now.
 
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Has anyone counted Hawaii's votes yet? I remember that they already gave it to Biden, but I'm curious what the numbers are.

If it's 100% Biden votes, I will laugh

According to the PPD map Hawaii is 365,802 for Biden and 196,602 for Trump, Hawaii is generally a safe state for the Dems but if they did force some fake votes that'd be overkill, like faking ballots in Cali for Biden.

I don't think it will be a war with Russia, but Iran is highly likely. What would they fabricate as a reason for a full out war with Russia when a reason for a war with Iran is so fucking easy to fabricate?
A war with Russia is highly unlikely with out proper declaration of war, while Iran, yeah well, see Iraq as an example. Weapons of mass destruction! *cough*
Also a war with Russia has the real risk that the Russians say "fuckit, for the holy motherland" and issue the launch codes, IMHO not even the Dems are that kind of stupid.

And the powers that be have been itching to topple the Ayatollah for a while now, plus Russia has nukes, you don't fight a country with nukes unless you want to be nuked back in return. Iran still don't have them so it'd be safe to roll in from that perspective.

These two vloggers had to flee China to the US. They comment on how China wants a civil war in the US

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5EbY9s5XXQ
https://archive.vn/rfHZZ

Part 1
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A Civil War is the only tool outside forces can hope for, like Lincoln said:

“From whence shall we expect the approach of danger? Shall some trans-Atlantic military giant step the earth and crush us at a blow? Never. All the armies of Europe and Asia...could not by force take a drink from the Ohio River or make a track on the Blue Ridge in the trial of a thousand years. No, if destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of free men we will live forever or die by suicide.”​

 
"Can" is not "will". The pressure for Trump to concede is going to be enormous and there WILL be resignations.
The pressure is already there and Trump isn’t backing down. He has dealt with this stuff ever since he ran for president in the first place. If there’s anyone that can resist the pressure without backing out, it’s Trump.
 
I'll be honest, this entire shenanigan has made me too tired to extensively track the election result aside from Election "Night". I've scanned through Baris and Barnes's Twitter (which are somehow still not banned), looking at this thread a few times, and that was that. Given what I know, I have to say this.

Words cannot describe how deeply humiliating this is. There are emerging third-world democracies that can conduct fair elections yet America - the most powerful nation in the world - cannot do the same. We watched as the DNC stole Michigan and Wisconsin. Now we watch in horror as they also steal Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada, and possibly North Carolina and Arizona too. And what most of the GOP leaders doing about it, the McConnells of the world? Nothing, absolutely nothing. Maybe an half-assed reference to voter fraud, but that's about it. I had hope that maybe the Republican party was changing from its "principled loser" stance but once again I am left disappointed at the utter inaction of the GOP to the absolute evil that the DNC are committing right before our eyes. I have no faith in the Supreme Court ruling in Trump's favor as Kavanaugh is wishy-washy and Barrett is an unknown that recused herself during the Pennsylvania Supreme Court case.

Even if Trump somehow pulls out a win, they purposely destroyed the legitimacy of our electoral process. At least half of the nation will never trust it again, at least at the presidential level, either because the DNC stole it or Trump wins and the left refuses to accept it. If we cannot trust our own electoral system, do we even have a republic? The DNC, social media, and mainstream news media have sent a message that if they do not like the results, they will change it until the "correct" choice is added and installing Biden (and by proxy Harris) through fraud is how they are going to do it. Few things are worse in the world than destroying the legitimacy of a republic/democracy and the DNC have done exactly that. They have crossed the line and that is unforgivable.

I will not be tolerating a Biden-Harris administration. If there is a time to make significant changes in your life for what is coming, the time is now.
Nah, if Trump pulls a win, all of America won't trust it, not just half.

Because a Trump win will almost certainly come with incontrovertible, undeniable proof that the Democrats commit election fraud on an inconcievable scale.
 
I have folks who watch the nightly news and take it at face value. They would believe the anchor saying that there is no evidence of voter fraud.
Same here, it's tiresome hearing for about 3 days now how "there's no voter fraud Trump is just cheating Trump can't ask for recounts blah blah" or whatever the fuck CNN has been spewing. I made it a point to stay quiet while this was happening to keep the peace but some people just have to relay every single bit of biased information they're fed and act like they're a savior for telling you.
Like can you at least wait AFTER to start sperging? Everyone's on fucking edge, chill.
 
The federal government still has control over its own elections though. There's no reason it can't decide to have its own ballots, manned by its own people, in their own stations separate from the states and, on top of that, insist on Voter ID. Why the federal government doesn't insist in doing this is beyond me.
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i see it but i dont believe it. my brain is refusing to see them fill out the ballot.

it cant be this blatant can it? at the counting.place
That one guy with the reason given. "If it can't be read they fill it out and file it so it counts". What the fuck is this? All you have to do is colour a box. If you can't do that, it should be binned.
 
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