2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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The media. technocrats, and faggots genuinely do not matter in this case. Hard data does.

And things are very much looking like Trump absolutely has that data on his side now.
Data never matters. I guess at this point its a matter of pure will. It should just be second nature. "Alright, you think there's fraud, prove it in court." Instead: "NO WE WON NO BACKSIES. LALALALAALALALALALALALAL NO BACKSIES LALALALALLALALAAL."

So yeah. They're obviously pulling out all the stops. People are getting paid. Honestly, I want Trump to win to make this billion dollar fraud be completely annihilated. The Dems already lost 100+ million on races. I want them to lose more. I want Trump to annihilate the Technocrats and destroy Facebook and Twitter. I want Dorsey in prison for election interference. Sorry, but you aren't the arbiter of fucking truth.

These are all pipe dreams. I fully expect a Trump win will make him sit on his laurels. I just don't see him doing anything about this. Don't get me wrong, I want Twitter immolated and fucking destroyed for the shit its pulled. Same with Facebook.

If Biden wins, no one on the other side will view him as legitimate.

What does Trump even plan to do? at this point it appears to be over.
Say 'fuck it' and go back to banging models. Its going to take a lot of will to go up against everything stacked against him. Everyone against him doesn't care about fraud, they just want their guy in.
 
What does Trump even plan to do? at this point it appears to be over.
1: Wait for final results
2: Seek a recount (Couple reasons, it maintains legitimacy and it is an opportunity to find evidence to use as examples of a pattern of misbehavior.)
2: Use data, mathematics, any examples he can verify, and anything found int he recount to make a case to the courts. Lower, then scotus.

I don't give it GREAT odds of working, but neither do I give it NEGLIGIBLE odds.
 
There's no justification for not investigating fraud. If no fraud is found, it proves this was a fair election and I'll be satisfied with the result. If there is fraud, we can see how much, to what extent, and to what weaknesses there are in the election system.
 
Alternative, simpler explanations. 1: Time, they had to make a lot of ballots in a short amount of time. If they had them on hand, they could have just trickled them in like they did everywhere after the fuckup. 2: If they also went down ballot, you'd have a lot of republican house and senate members ALSO pressing for recounts. Thats a lot harder to keep up with.

Well yeah, but all those Republicans need to realize if they don't make a stand over this the same thing will happen to them next election. They'd be fools not to realize this.
 
"Baseless" is the media's new favorite word with Trump and has been for the past 6 months or so. Google "trump baseless" and you'll find dozens of headlines from various news outlets.

Call it baseless and say there's no evidence
If someone posts the evidence, ban them from social media and the mainstream media wont cover it
continue callling it baseless and lie about the evidence being a totally fabricated conspiracy theory because look, there's no evidence!
 
There's no justification for not investigating fraud. If no fraud is found, it proves this was a fair election and I'll be satisfied with the result. If there is fraud, we can see how much, to what extent, and to what weaknesses there are in the election system.
I agree, I was prepared to sigh and accept it as wrote when I saw the initial results. Then I dug a little because I kept seeing smoke.

Call it baseless and say there's no evidence
If someone posts the evidence, ban them from social media and the mainstream media wont cover it
continue callling it baseless and lie about the evidence being a totally fabricated conspiracy theory because look, there's no evidence!
My secret, little, hopeless hope is that they do investigate and it leads right back to the media. Won't happen, but would be nice.
 
What's the odds of getting this into SCOTUS if lower courts keep throwing out the case? This had already happened twice in Penn and georgia.
 
If we lose we'll lose and die. If we win we'll finally have a chance at a future and happiness. If you do nothing you will be miserable and wishing for death before it is done.
I'm not sure what's worse-- that you're two steps from AoT posting or that you're not wrong.
I think we can all agree that Marxism was a mistake.
Marxism was very much deliberate.
 
What's the odds of getting this into SCOTUS if lower courts keep throwing out the case? This had already happened twice in Penn and georgia.
Fairly high. Getting Scotus to hear it should be the easy part, its convincing them of the case and the remedy which will prove difficult.
 
Call it baseless and say there's no evidence
If someone posts the evidence, ban them from social media and the mainstream media wont cover it
continue callling it baseless and lie about the evidence being a totally fabricated conspiracy theory because look, there's no evidence!

In retrospect what made me start to move to the right was seeing them do this with climate science. The cycle went like this

1) "All true scientists believe the planet will turn into Venus unless we implement a set of disastrous policies"
2) A scientist comes forward to quibble with parts of this
3) Scientist is declared not a true scientist because they once did some contract work for an oil company.
4) Goto 1

It's the sort of manufacturing of consent that Noam Chomsky complained about over foreign wars. Chomsky was a crypto commie sack of shit in the Cold War but he was right that the case for the forever wars post Cold War was never as strong as was claimed by the media.

One of the delightful things about having a Democrat President of course is that the forever wars will come back, and the media will patiently explain it's something that just needs to be done, as is accepting the refugees those wars produce.
 
I agree, I was prepared to sigh and accept it as wrote when I saw the initial results. Then I dug a little because I kept seeing smoke.


My secret, little, hopeless hope is that they do investigate and it leads right back to the media. Won't happen, but would be nice.
If it were a fair election and Biden ended up winning, I would have accepted the results, even if I was disappointed. I refuse to accept a victory based on outright fraud. So much is happening and committing massive fraud is treasonous. Already, Trump has this in his favor:
  • Challenging any state where there was a substantial lead and 99% counted on election night going down to 85% suddenly, without question
  • States like AZ getting prematurely called for Biden despite vote counts not completely taken in
  • Any state that shows a complete spike for Biden where it is a straight line, elections don’t work like that
  • A Supreme Court to escalate things to should this go haywire
  • Hard video evidence of poll workers fabricating ballots and tossing ballots
  • Hard evidence of Trump team being unable to actually watch any vote counting in certain counties, despite Biden’s team being allowed full reign. They can’t use COVID either since there are videos of poll workers avoiding all social distancing
  • Members of Congress that are supporting Trump, like Lindsay Graham, despite the odds
 
Data never matters. I guess at this point its a matter of pure will. It should just be second nature. "Alright, you think there's fraud, prove it in court." Instead: "NO WE WON NO BACKSIES. LALALALAALALALALALALALAL NO BACKSIES LALALALALLALALAAL."

So yeah. They're obviously pulling out all the stops. People are getting paid. Honestly, I want Trump to win to make this billion dollar fraud be completely annihilated. The Dems already lost 100+ million on races. I want them to lose more. I want Trump to annihilate the Technocrats and destroy Facebook and Twitter. I want Dorsey in prison for election interference. Sorry, but you aren't the arbiter of fucking truth.

These are all pipe dreams. I fully expect a Trump win will make him sit on his laurels. I just don't see him doing anything about this. Don't get me wrong, I want Twitter immolated and fucking destroyed for the shit its pulled. Same with Facebook.

If Biden wins, no one on the other side will view him as legitimate.


Say 'fuck it' and go back to banging models. Its going to take a lot of will to go up against everything stacked against him. Everyone against him doesn't care about fraud, they just want their guy in.

It’s obvious that they will absolutely try “GEORGIA IS UP BY TEN VOTES, WE’RE CALLING IT NOW, BIDEN HAS WON”, but if Trump challenges it and they find enough fraud, that doesn’t mean that Biden still wins, at the very least it’ll then go to a state recount.

As others have mentioned, save the doomposting for later once the court stuff really starts.


What was this video about? Some retard faggot didn't archive it, so now there's a completely blank highlight post with no context or information.
It was an ad for Pornhub showing up on one of CNN’s election screens.
 
Alright, so my takeaway from all of this is the more they drag this shit out, the more the Dems shoot themselves in the foot?
Conversely the longer this goes on for, the longer they have time to start deleting security footage and 'verifying' ballots, cleaning up their tracks and impressing narratives into normies' minds. They're hoping to drag it out until it's too late for a recount.

The election needs to be over as soon as possible so that the lawfare stage can begin.

The USSR’s collapse was not from old age. Chernobyl shook faith in the government, as did the slow death of the Aral Sea, and Glasnost revealed a very dirty secret of the Soviets regarding the “liberation” of Poland in 1939 which caused the Poles to instantly revolt en masse. From there, nationalism took hold and there was no stopping the military defections.
The later points beyond Chernobyl (which most people know about ) are quite interesting- do you have any additional readings on them?
 
  • Members of Congress that are supporting Trump, like Lindsay Graham, despite the odds

We can only hope that even the RINOiest, swampiest of Republicans will see that if they let this election stand the same methods will be used to unseat them next time and they'll keep fighting it to the SCOTUS. Because the one thing they and Trump agree on is that an originalist majority there is a good thing.

The Democrats have used the nuclear option of massive fraud in this election and they need to challenge this in court and/or use their control of the state legislatures to overrule it if necessary. They need to use those now because they won't survive a Biden Presidency. Once he gets control of the House, Senate, and state legislatures by rigged election he'll pack the SCOTUS, and then it is all over.

I'd actually get the SCOTUS to rule that state legislatures have plenary power to appoint electors to the electoral college. Have fucking Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania state legislatures say they'll nominate electors unless the elections are re-run. Get the SCOTUS to rule on that.
 
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Conversely the longer this goes on for, the longer they have time to start deleting security footage and 'verifying' ballots, cleaning up their tracks and impressing narratives into normies' minds. They're hoping to drag it out until it's too late for a recount.

The election needs to be over as soon as possible.
The thing is, what you just described leaves a trail or is simply impossible.

Deleting footage? Well, "Sorry, but the footage conveniently was deleted yesterday" is going to sound -bad- in front of a judge. You cannot retroactively verify a ballot, that will be checked by the recounters and no amount of scrubbing will make those better. And the narrative to normies doesn't matter. It got fucked as soon as this took over three days to figure out.
 
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