2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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contradiction of terns said:
It took me a while to parse what you said, but I thought I'd reply and just say that my in-law will be ok. She's got good people looking after her and apparently some Filipino block party she's attending to take her mind off things.

I mostly feel bad for her because this election has been the kind of shenanigans second and third world countries like the Philippines are known for, and it seems extra crappy to take the long road of legal immigration from a place that can't hold a proper election to America...

Who suddenly decides they can't hold a proper election.

I just keep reminding myself she lives in a small town and my fam will take good care of her no matter what. I'm lucky in the sense that my people are mostly in backwaters where they'll be the last effected by whatever winds up happening.
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eh, the usa are FUCKHUEG, when shit hits the fan it won't be a 50 man cage match, it will balkanize and go from there. bumfuck nowhere in the right part is also the safest places to be in that case, and most likely to survive (relatively) unscathed since most of them got enough space to be able to sustain themselves if it ever comes to that. that's why the last place you want to be is a dense urban area. but that's my inner prepper talking.

for all the doomposting the USA won't implode over night, there will be time to react and prepare and possibly still turn things around. worrying too much what happens on a national level just leads to unnecessary stress (and when things turn to shit don't matter anyway). no need to worry for now.
 
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HumanHive said:
These are meaningless coincidences. The Bedford test is a real argument.
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It feels weird to agree with you. Though I'd note that its not... meaningless.

Going back... a ways in this thread. The whole Direct/Indirect - Hard/Soft power thing plays into the legal argument as well. Benford's is the HARD power. Its literally a proof. But things like the bellwether states not going for him, alongside affidavits, and all the weaker stuff can be great SOFT power in that it takes Benford's and creates a narrative and pattern behind it.

All Benford's says, in the end, is that the results are anomalous as fuck and needs looking into. The other stuff provides descriptions of how off it is, and in what ways, while suggesting at how and why.
 
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Goldman said:
>inb4 this is the one in a few hundred billion...
>four times
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looks like its in the realm of possibility to me
 
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im pro trump all the way but ngl when I saw the thumbnail of his twitter account, the one that's just @potus, it looks like he has a gun in his mouth
 
Gehenna said:
It feels weird to agree with you. Though I'd note that its not... meaningless.

Going back... a ways in this thread. The whole Direct/Indirect - Hard/Soft power thing plays into the legal argument as well. Benford's is the HARD power. Its literally a proof. But things like the bellwether states not going for him, alongside affidavits, and all the weaker stuff can be great SOFT power in that it takes Benford's and creates a narrative and pattern behind it.

All Benford's says, in the end, is that the results are anomalous as fuck and needs looking into. The other stuff provides descriptions of how off it is, and in what ways, while suggesting at how and why.
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“Meaningless” in the sense it convinces no one of anything and is only indicative of literally two things coinciding without direct connection. Do these towns hold special sway over the electoral college? No. Do they have some demographic mix that makes them bellweathers? Yes, but that could change at any time without warning.

It’s like those polling models that have “predicted every election since 20XX.” The streak only lasts until it ends, and it will end. So as a result it is data that has no meaning. It’s just statistical trivia. True, but meaningless.
 
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HumanHive said:
“Meaningless” in the sense it convinces no one of anything and is only indicative of literally two things coinciding without direct connection. Do these towns hold special sway over the electoral college? No. Do they have some demographic mix that makes them bellweathers? Yes, but that could change at any time without warning.

It’s like those polling models that have “predicted every election since 20XX.” The streak only lasts until it ends, and it will end. So as a result it is data that has no meaning. It’s just statistical trivia. True, but meaningless.
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In that sense, I do agree with you entirely then. They hold no real persuasive power without the hard power to back it up.
 
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contradiction of terns said:
It took me a while to parse what you said, but I thought I'd reply and just say that my in-law will be ok. She's got good people looking after her and apparently some Filipino block party she's attending to take her mind off things.

I mostly feel bad for her because this election has been the kind of shenanigans second and third world countries like the Philippines are known for, and it seems extra crappy to take the long road of legal immigration from a place that can't hold a proper election to America...

Who suddenly decides they can't hold a proper election.

I just keep reminding myself she lives in a small town and my fam will take good care of her no matter what. I'm lucky in the sense that my people are mostly in backwaters where they'll be the last effected by whatever winds up happening.
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My family comes from a third world shithole that has corruption in every election since it was probably founded or gained independence.

And they are fully convinced that Trump is being fucked out of a win. That there is actual legitimate corruption going on.

I am seeing democrats trying super hard to play down the voter fraud allegations like that soulless glowie senator from Connecticut. If Biden wins, they do not want to have a hard time with with foreign expansionist policy when every nation just saw America basically turn into a Banana Republic.

Trump probably doesn't give a fuck about the whole arsenal of democracy talking point since he is probably the first isolationist president since Coolidge or Hoover.
 
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Gehenna said:
This is why you will -never- see it happen in California or New York.
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If Trump pulls this off, I believe that sweeping reforms like this are possible. He could just say that it would give them chances to win Texas. I know it’s optimistic, but I’m hoping for voting reform across the board if Trump wins.
 
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My family comes from a third world shithole that has corruption in every election since it was probably founded or gained independence.

And they are fully convinced that Trump is being fucked out of a win. That there is actual legitimate corruption going on.

I am seeing democrats trying super hard to play down the voter fraud allegations like that soulless glowie senator from Connecticut. If Biden wins, they do not want to have a hard time with with foreign expansionist policy when every nation just saw America basically turn into a Banana Republic.

Trump probably doesn't give a fuck about the whole arsenal of democracy talking point since he is probably the first isolationist president since Coolidge or Hoover.
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Indeed. It's really not hard for someone who experiences electoral corruption first-hand to see how all these doesn't pass the smell test. At all.

Over here in third-world land, you know how they try to delay ballot counting? They faked electricity interruptions in the count centre. Sure, nobody actually believed it was accidental, but it was miles more subtle than what the democrats pulled here. Imagine being less competent at fraud than a third-world country.
 
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