2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[SheerHeartAttack]

 

[JambledUpWords]

Don’t know if anyone has posted this, but it’s pretty funny:


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Not gonna lie, seeing any fraudster end up in jail or get executed would be cathartic. I don’t care who or what party someone is frauding for, I just hate fraud and I would like to see some real punishment for this. Especially since it’s putting the nation in jeopardy.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Tariq is saying fraud happened. So are Talcum X and Bill Maher. You know you fucked up when even the true believers are going "yea this is a little too unbelievable for me."

I'm ignoring the media at the moment but it would be very significant if the narrative that the election was flawless started to crack over the next few days.

And it might. Some of the Republican lawsuits will succeed. They'll lose some but they will get fast-tracked to the Supreme Court, where the Republicans will win most of them. Some more independent-minded Democrat supporters might jump ship and join X, Maher, and Nashid.

At some point, the notion that 'only crazy people think there's anything wrong procedurally' will become untenable. And of course, the state legislatures will threaten the nuclear option of nominating electors as they see fit if the procedural problems aren't fixed, which is what shut Gore up.

The media can magic up a narrative in a couple of hours like they did here but that might not survive long enough. Especially if Trump will presumably sit it out to the bitter end and will use all the power he has to try to find fraud[1]

And then there's the way the fraud happened, It looks to me like the DNC had put in a certain level of fraud based on their flawed polls that told them they'd walk it. Then in the middle of the night, they realized they needed to up the fraud level to 11. That must have left a paper trail, hence them kicking out Republican election observers. And then there's what happened in PA where Boockvar overruled the legislature which seems obviously unconstitutional. Gorka had Jenna Ellis on and she's arguing that the constitution says only the legislature can decide the rules. It seems like ACB would be convinced by that, as would the rest of the Republican majority.

[1] In B4 Trump is reelected but then impeached for obstruction of justice in his attempt to investigate a rigged election, much like he last got impeached for trying to get Ukraine to look into the Biden family's corruption. I don't like the man but as Farage pointed out, he could easily have just spent his life playing golf on the world-class golf courses he owns and being a billionaire. I'm sure his motives are not pure, but you have to admit having someone do this is very handy.

 

[Str8Bustah]

Only when you’re being obnoxious.

the more you copepost the more it makes other people think you're also coping

 

[Gehenna]

I mean, I hope you are right. Trump winning would be glorious for the hellfire he'd unleash. Though if he won't unleash hellfire, fuck it, I don't want him to win.

The media and the technocrats are going HARD against Trump because if he wins, they're afraid he'll fuck them. And I hope he will. I am just shocked Biden didn't declare victory yet. That's where my 1% comes from. He hasn't yet declared victory and asked for a concession from Trump. So there is still that.

Overall what I think happened is that there was mail-in fraud that was designed to be small. Just enough so nobody would notice and it'd be a real squeaker. The problem is Trump's margins were so huge that they panicked and just pulled the lever and let everything out. So inconspicuous fraud became VERY conspicuous fraud. Now everyone is shitting themselves hoping that they can get away with it and are firing on all cylinders.

And people say A&H is a hive mind (I predicted a Biden victory forever ago). But yeah, we're on two opposite ends of this.

If I might point out some things to possibly sway your mind... a little (I mean, I am saying Trump's likely to lose too).

1: The GOP has been... surprisingly supportive. I am leery of the back stabbing weasels, but the idiocy that was the Left-Wing Hit List pretty well put their backs to the wall.
2: The case is solid for at least 2 of the states, has at least moderate cases in two others.
3: The results for Arizona and Georgia are too close to call, with Georgia still well within military ballot range and Arizona looking like he'll just win that since there is a 600 vote difference with plenty of red left.
4: Trump's balls are in a vice AND back against the wall. He has plenty of motivation to keep going, and no reason to back down. He also has the wealth (and frankly, legal history) to have good lawyers on standby.
5: The places he needs to win are run by republicans. No, I am not expecting them to magically reverse the decision, that is pure cope. But it DOES mean he will receive minimal to no resistance from the states in digging deeper.
6: Last but not least, he has a simple roadmap. This is very important. North Carolina , Alaska, and Arizona are probably going to him (I STILL don't know why the first two haven't been called). That brings him to 248. That's only 22 behind. If he turns any two states... he wins. He has 4 shots, and only needs 2.

Now, this would require some things to happen.
Pennsylvania: Perhaps the easiest legally, the PASC fucked up hard. The tricky part here is that it -has- to go through SCOTUS which is a wild card. No one knows if and how they would rule on it, though they'd likely lean towards confirming that bullshittery is afoot... its their solution to that which is the most concerning.
Wisconsin: This one I didn't see too much smoke on, beyond the initial strange numbers. It is being audited though, and is running off a much thinner margin (~22K) than anyone would like. This means it stands a decent chance of being overturned if any ballots are funky.
Michigan: I am most leery of this ones possibilities. While it is second only to Pennsylvania in obvious fuckery, I am not sure how the supreme court would address it. There's no clear cut case like PA.
Georgia: This one might just yet swing due to pure votes. With a difference of ~3K votes, it could narrowly be swung by military ballots depending on how many are outstanding and for Republican. I don't think they have yet to announce an audit, but given the fuckery revealed for their runoff election, its likely in the works.


All in all, it'd be supremely optimistic to say Trump has even a coin flip chance, but neither is it a doomed chance. He has things going for him.

 

[verissimus]

Tariq is saying fraud happened. So are Talcum X and Bill Maher. You know you fucked up when even the true believers are going "yea this is a little too unbelievable for me."

Talcum X being Shawn White? ...the guy that pretends he's black, actually believes something is up? Freaking 2020.

 

[Sperghetti]

I think it's a religious thing. Religious people don't believe in the perfectability of man or utopias. Leftists believe in both. If you're a conservative you know man is flawed, and the best you can hope for is holding leftists attempts to create a utopia, which always end in dystopia, for another generation.

I'm not sure it's entirely religious, but I have definitely noticed that split in views about human nature: Conservatives seem to view humanity in a more skeptical light, believing that people are inherently out for themselves and will take advantage of each other and abuse systems when given the opportunity. Whereas liberals seem to view humanity in this strange sense of being inherently good, except for the people they deem to be evil.

I think that's another part of where you get this idea of "utopia is an unrealistic concept because humans are inherently flawed" versus "utopia is possible if we just get rid of the evil people".

 

[draggs]

the more you copepost the more it makes other people think you're also coping

His copium by proxy isnt as good as me boofing copium direct

 

[verissimus]

I'm ignoring the media at the moment but it would be very significant if the narrative that the election was flawless started to crack over the next few days.

And it might. Some of the Republican lawsuits will succeed. They'll lose some but they will get fast-tracked to the Supreme Court, where the Republicans will win most of them. Some more independent-minded Democrat supporters might jump ship and join X, Maher, and Nashid.

At some point, the notion that 'only crazy people think there's anything wrong procedurally' will become untenable. And of course, the state legislatures will threaten the nuclear option of nominating electors as they see fit if the procedural problems aren't fixed, which is what shut Gore up.

The media can magic up a narrative in a couple of hours like they did here but that might not survive long enough. Especially if Trump will presumably sit it out to the bitter end and will use all the power he has to try to find fraud[1]

And then there's the way the fraud happened, It looks to me like the DNC had put in a certain level of fraud based on their flawed polls that told them they'd walk it. Then in the middle of the night, they realized they needed to up the fraud level to 11. That must have left a paper trail, hence them kicking out Republican election observers. And then there's what happened in PA where Boockvar overruled the legislature which seems obviously unconstitutional. Gorka had Jenna Ellis on and she's arguing that the constitution says only the legislature can decide the rules. It seems like ACB would be convinced by that, as would the rest of the Republican majority.

[1] In B4 Trump is reelected but then impeached for obstruction of justice in his attempt to investigate a rigged election, much like he last got impeached for trying to get Ukraine to look into the Biden family's corruption. I don't like the man but as Farage pointed out, he could easily have just spent his life playing golf on the world-class golf courses he owns and being a billionaire. I'm sure his motives are not pure, but you have to admit having someone do this is very handy.

There's also the recounts as well.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

CNN's called the election, by the way.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

It'll be interesting to see how the decade forms with it looking like Biden has it. IMO we're going to see a massive double down of a lot of the crazy shit that lead to Trump winning in the first place.

Expecting full lockdowns again. (Yay more unemployment and only mega corporations surviving!) Depending on how the run off election in Georgia goes, the new Senate will determine how big the next stimulus bill is. Fully expecting military action to happen somewhere after how the DNC were practically salivating over war with Iran or Russia in 2016 with Hillary.

Not trying to Doomer or blackpill, but I see a lot of the far left thinking this is thier opportunity to "undo the damage of Drumpf" but not realize just why 2016 happened in the first place.

Anyone stupid enough to think Trump can be fixed has learned nothing of history. So in case any of those tarts reads this, so time to refresh your shitty memories with some Roman Republic fun.

Caesar was called a "rot at the heart of rome" by the conspirators against him. Those conspirators were idiots. Caesar was no rot, he was just a symptom. He grew out of the Populares revolts, a long string of conflicts caused by corruption and infighting, and when reaching rome was disgusted to find it had been consumed by the same disease Hispania had, just less blatantly. That's why he acted like he did, forming the first triumvirate, giving the army more weight, lowering taxes and taking power away from civil governors. If you put yourself in his shoes, it made sense. It took power away from failing institutions and gave it to dutyful people.

That's precisely why murdering him was the worst possible decission the senate could've taken. Even if you 100% disagree with his reforms. Taking him out without adressing the real rot at the heart of rome, the senate itself, just meant throwing away people's hope for a better tomorrow. And sure enough, that is what led to Augustus.

And once more, Augustus was no rot, he was a symptom. He tried to divide power into the second triumvirate, at first rejected to stay for life, attempting to stay a dictator instead of upgrading to imperator like he did at the end, etc. If you check his measures, they made sense. He was trying not to end the republic. And what happened? They declared a civil war against him and the caesareans, they tried to push back caesar's reforms, they forced his hand. And the republic died.

Killing augustus wouldn't have saved the republic, it would've only made it collapse farther. Truth is, the republic was doomed from the start. And any attempt to stop those trying to fix it from doing so only led to higher pushback and harder reforms, because it COULD only lead to higher pushback and harder reforms. Leaving Caesar alive could conceivably had led to the Republic staying mostly intact, treating Caesar as an enemy was the worst thing the Senate could've ever done given the circumstances, they could not win this conflict.

Same thing happened with Soviet Russia. Every attempt made to stump the rebels and decry them as terrorists only grew their numbers, every pushback the party made against the liberals' changes towards a hybrid model only left them in a worse position and facing further reform, when the army tried to coup Gorbachev they only strengthened the anti-commie factions within russia. Because treating Gorbachev and his reformists as the enemy was the worst decission the communists could've taken. Any attempt at stopping the course correction once the rot is unveiled is doomed to backfire, that much is certain.

Trump is America's Caesar, he is today's Gorbachev. He is in power because people have smelled the rot at the heart of America and they NEED to cut, it, out. The less you fight him, the more moderate his reforms will be, and the more you'll keep your oh so fucking beloved "normalcy". Any and all attempts to take him out, coup him, or give a "pucherazo" can only backfire, the rot's been uncovered, the pendulum is coming down, you can only accelerate the process by pushing against it, and if you do manage to coup Trump, if you do manage to steal the presidency, push back everything he's tried to accomplish and go back to the Obama years of corruption and neoliberalism... The exposed rot will end you, and it will end America alongside you. You can't win, you can only stall, and at a great cost we will all have to pay in the end. Because like it or not, the west needs america if it is to survive.

We've seen this play over and over here in spain, from the absolutists to the constitutional monarchists, then the senatorial monarchists, every attempt at slowing down or reversing the growth towards liberalism and democracy only backfired over and over again. Even Primo, one of the few good leaders we had, ended in disaster due to his own subordinate's corruption and incompetence, and even after they finally managed to push back into fascism past the civil war, that's only in turn grown spain into one of the most socialist-leaning countries in europe as the process of democratization started once more. Every attempt by the corrupt to win again by electoral fraud and corruption only leading to mounting piles of cases slowly but surely inching them out until now even our old king's become a public enemy in the eyes of most and been left condemned to exile as his family once more faces the growth of republicanism threatening to take them out.

Meanwhile the british royals just went along, guided democracy and helped moderate the process. And what's happened? Most breton's wouldn't even concieve of becoming a republic, and the country hosts some of the oldest institutions in western europe with pride. Once the rot is exposed there is only two options, either you help cut it out and ensure it will be a peacefull and moderate process, or you push against the procedure and burn your country to ashes in the process. We know that damned well around here, and you're about to learn it the hard way.

 

[Aldeland]

Talcum X being Shawn White? ...the guy that pretends he's black, actually believes something is up? Freaking 2020.

This fucking timeline man. If someone told me the highlights of 2020 including Tariq "Weapon of Mass Destruction" Nasheed and Talcum X going off the plantation, I would asked where I could get some of the drugs you were on.

 

[Secret Asshole]

CNN's called the election, by the way.

It doesn't matter until Biden calls it. The media no longer matters. They can spew whatever vomit they want, no one is going to believe them.

 

[Oats12345]

Yeah as I said before a civil war will be the dumbest thing to happen for everyone but the LARPing faggots.

I think that unity in the country is going to be bad for many years no matter who wins.

However, despite this there will be a recovery as while things will look bad, America has gone through worse things and the country could heal it's wounds. It won't be through Trump or Biden however

I really won't call my dad a larper. He just feels that history will repeat itself.

That software that all the swing states use?

That's created by a DNC connected company?

That Texas rejected because it wasn't secure?

Because it connects to the internet?

But they insist that it's fine because it's IP filtered and secure?

... they uploaded an unapproved update to the devices on Election day.

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https://twitter.com/Wizard_Predicts/status/1324933559363186690

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Georgia election official: Machine glitch caused by last-minute vendor upload

Voting was delayed in two counties for two hours while the problem was fixed.

www.politico.com

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This does explain way blue Texas did not become real, where blue Gerogia did.

North Cali and Upstate NY are free to dip anytime. And they should soon.


Well, I guess with beating 2008 Obama's numbers, Biden has managed to defeat a incumbent candidate who has won the "usually election-winning" states and counties.

Wow, what a godly candidate. Give up the keys now, Donald. Glad for that proof though.

I live in upstate New York. I hope that does happen some day.

Biden declaring victory would make GEOTUS unlock Super Sayian 3. It would also embolden the GOP more into seeing how this demented fuck somehow managed winning with no crowds of any kind to turn up for him.

Tucker is basically getting closer and closer to calling this a rigged election. He has on people seeing it or calling it that way. Also brought up how glowie democrats are basically fed posting into wanting Trump supporters commit violence so Biden can use the 1807.

And the dumb fuck Keith Olbermann never saw the full clip and posted a tweet that Tucker was encouraging civil war and should be arrested when it was a democrat glowie who said it on Bill Maher.

Keith Olberman's a lunatic

Tucker made a great point that Biden can assert his legitimate standing as potential president elect by calling for transparency.

But all I am seeing is smug ridicule, censorship, don't question the democrats and weird ass silence. Like other than Pelosi, no democrat is like protecting Biden or congratulating him. However Bernie is still cucking for Biden.

Another point is Trump basically found a way to win elections without even winning a single urban shithole. 70 million votes without New York or Los Angeles.

For comparison, Obama had around 69 million which had him winning the top 10 biggest cities in America.

Expands the GOP and manages to get a higher turnout as an incumbent as democrat numbers.

This election is super spooky shit.

Thats amazing to win the popular vote with the big cities.

CNN's called the election, by the way.

Of course they did

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

Possibly. But more likely they are reserving the "he's just a sore loser and wasting everyone's take with frivolous lawsuits" narrative.

Having said that, I seem to remember they basically browbeat Jill Stein into dropping a recount / audit request because there was something stupidly fishy about the DNC's numbers in a district in 2018 or 2016? Don't have the deets on that.

2016 Michigan/Wisconsin recounts courtesy of Dr. Stein saw Trump's lead increase and the DNC yelled to SHUT IT DOWN.

Because calling something a "conspiracy theory" is a socially engineered thought terminating cliche.

It's literally the entire point of the term. It was created specifically to discredit people and to make onlookers auto-reject any information. It's why if you call Russiagate a Conspiracy Theory they lose their fucking MINDS.

They don't want to accept any of the information we've heard about this election. They don't want you spreading that information. Best case scenario, they know voter fraud on this level would destroy the US and don't want it to get out, worst case scenario they don't care as long as they finally get a win.

All the data we've heard. NONE of it has been on the mainstream media. NONE. ZERO. ZILCH. NADA. To them, they went to bed with Trump "having some early gains or something" and woke up to a slow slog of a count without any real controversy that Biden seems to have won.

That's why the big tech companies are slapping "This has been disputed by fact checkers" on anything people bring up from alt media to try and talk about this. It's to give the true believers the OK to ignore and discredit it, and to give the indoctrinated neutrals a false because reasoning to avoid it.

You literally had the head of elections in the US come out and say there is something fucked up about this, and no one in the media covered it. NO ONE.

The only thing that is of any hope is the DNC's reaction shows they're spooked too, and there's a very good chance that Trump is going to win in court over at least some of this shit.

It's terrifying that people see these third world fraud tactics that even the BBC has a list of as "haha nothing wrong here"

Maybe this is why Adam left to do his own thing.

The hippy soycuck looking guy has been even more pro Trump of late and now is also buying guns in Arizona.

He actually seems like a genuine guy, while Tim is a damned grifter and pussy who blusters about being banned anytime now by Google while acquiescing to them.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

hhh

Anyone stupid enough to think Trump can be fixed has learned nothing of history. So in case any of those tarts reads this, so time to refresh your shitty memories with some Roman Republic fun.

Caesar was called a "rot at the heart of rome" by the conspirators against him. Those conspirators were idiots. Caesar was no rot, he was just a symptom. He grew out of the Populares revolts, a long string of conflicts caused by corruption and infighting, and when reaching rome was disgusted to find it had been consumed by the same disease Hispania had, just less blatantly. That's why he acted like he did, forming the first triumvirate, giving the army more weight, lowering taxes and taking power away from civil governors. If you put yourself in his shoes, it made sense. It took power away from failing institutions and gave it to dutyful people.

That's precisely why murdering him was the worst possible decission the senate could've taken. Even if you 100% disagree with his reforms. Taking him out without adressing the real rot at the heart of rome, the senate itself, just meant throwing away people's hope for a better tomorrow. And sure enough, that is what led to Augustus.

And once more, Augustus was no rot, he was a symptom. He tried to divide power into the second triumvirate, at first rejected to stay for life, attempting to stay a dictator instead of upgrading to imperator like he did at the end, etc. If you check his measures, they made sense. He was trying not to end the republic. And what happened? They declared a civil war against him and the caesareans, they tried to push back caesar's reforms, they forced his hand. And the republic died.

Killing augustus wouldn't have saved the republic, it would've only made it collapse farther. Truth is, the republic was doomed from the start. And any attempt to stop those trying to fix it from doing so only led to higher pushback and harder reforms, because it COULD only lead to higher pushback and harder reforms. Leaving Caesar alive could conceivably had led to the Republic staying mostly intact, treating Caesar as an enemy was the worst thing the Senate could've ever done given the circumstances, they could not win this conflict.

Same thing happened with Soviet Russia. Every attempt made to stump the rebels and decry them as terrorists only grew their numbers, every pushback the party made against the liberals' changes towards a hybrid model only left them in a worse position and facing further reform, when the army tried to coup Gorbachev they only strengthened the anti-commie factions within russia. Because treating Gorbachev and his reformists as the enemy was the worst decission the communists could've taken. Any attempt at stopping the course correction once the rot is unveiled is doomed to backfire, that much is certain.

Trump is America's Caesar, he is today's Gorbachev. He is in power because people have smelled the rot at the heart of America and they NEED to cut, it, out. The less you fight him, the more moderate his reforms will be, and the more you'll keep your oh so fucking beloved "normalcy". Any and all attempts to take him out, coup him, or give a "pucherazo" can only backfire, the rot's been uncovered, the pendulum is coming down, you can only accelerate the process by pushing against it, and if you do manage to coup Trump, if you do manage to steal the presidency, push back everything he's tried to accomplish and go back to the Obama years of corruption and neoliberalism... The exposed rot will end you, and it will end America alongside you. You can't win, you can only stall, and at a great cost we will all have to pay in the end. Because like it or not, the west needs america if it is to survive.

We've seen this play over and over here in spain, from the absolutists to the constitutional monarchists, then the senatorial monarchists, every attempt at slowing down or reversing the growth towards liberalism and democracy only backfired over and over again. Even Primo, one of the few good leaders we had, ended in disaster due to his own subordinate's corruption and incompetence, and even after they finally managed to push back into fascism past the civil war, that's only in turn grown spain into one of the most socialist-leaning countries in europe as the process of democratization started once more. Every attempt by the corrupt to win again by electoral fraud and corruption only leading to mounting piles of cases slowly but surely inching them out until now even our old king's become a public enemy in the eyes of most and been left condemned to exile as his family once more faces the growth of republicanism threatening to take them out.

Meanwhile the british royals just went along, guided democracy and helped moderate the process. And what's happened? Most breton's wouldn't even concieve of becoming a republic, and the country hosts some of the oldest institutions in western europe with pride. Once the rot is exposed there is only two options, either you help cut it out and ensure it will be a peacefull and moderate process, or you push against the procedure and burn your country to ashes in the process. We know that damned well around here, and you're about to learn it the hard way.

Good post, but Bretons are people from Brittany. You mean Britons.

 

[alreadyhome]

CNN's called the election, by the way.

The funniest thing is CNN, NBC, and AP calling the race and there's no change at all in people's convictions - the media has zero credibility and their arrogance is at a record level in the history of civilization. No one cares what they say at all.

 

[soy_king]

New York Times just called PA and declared Biden the winner. Let the games begin.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

CNN just claimed that Joe Biden was elected president.

Why the fuck are they still saying he's President when at the moment, he's clearly not especially with the legal storm that's brewing?

 

[Secret Asshole]

CNN just claimed that Joe Biden was elected president.

Why the fuck are they still saying he's President when at the moment, he's clearly not especially with the legal storm that's brewing?

To de-legitimize any attempt to contest the election.