2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Didn't Saddam get his head popped off? He was a terrible person but he went out like a boss mocking his executioners for chanting 'Moqtadr! Moqtadr! Moqtadr' making it clear his execution was sectarian justice meted out by foreign collaborators, not justice.
This is why you don't do people like that. Congratulations, you let Saddam go out like a true man. Plus we literally went to war against a country that hadn't done shit to us. Congratulations Dubya you fucking moron. Anyone who thinks fucking Trump is literally Hitler missed the moron we had in the White House from 2000-2008.
 
So, are they then secretly preparing their legal defense?
I'll be honest with you, I'm not sure what they're planning at this point. My best guess is that they shift the blame away from them due to all the suspicion around poll workers in particular, claiming they acted on their own and the DNC had no part. Since otherwise, I'm really not sure how they'd be able to defend against such a strong case of fraud, aside from hoping the SCOTUS is compromised but that's an extremely lofty hope. If they can get off scot-free but Trump still wins, then they can use the "he stole the election" narrative, which will fire up their base even more due to them normalizing Biden as president, which some have suggested is their plan from the start. My only issue is that I can't see that working out for them, I just don't think people will trust them anymore for a long time- I mainly base this off Trump having better margins than in 2016 (in Ohio and Florida at least, admittedly I haven't checked every state to compare), possibly after accounting for fraud too, indicating that media trust is indeed falling. They'll always have a sizable portion of the population (let's say 40%), that's just how a two-party system works, but if Trump wins, I find it very hard to believe he and the rest of the GOP won't focus on election reform. For both Democrats and Republicans, this election is do or die, thanks to Democrats going full retard with fraud and opening Pandora's box as a result.
 
The truly fascinating thing that's going on right now is that while we're all here arguing about whether the litigation will be successful or not, we really haven't heard a peep out of the Biden camp about these challenges, and they're generally acting like they're already planning their full transition down to a complete reupholstering. Do you think this is more that they're supremely confident that they've got this in the bag and don't even need to waste time to rebuff these litigation challenges, or are they maintaining this cloak of deception while they're secretly panicking/setting up their legal teams?
Didn't they claim it was time for "unity"? Apparently only bitches ask for recounts.
 
This is how I've been feeling for the past two days, and possibly will feel all week:
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Every little news story, every report of voter fraud, every time the legislatures talk of investigating voter fraud or direct appointment of electors. It's all one tick closer to midnight.
Not of Trump's "inevitable" victory, but a far greater shitstorm that we can only begin to imagine. The Republican politicians are bold right now. Bold and impudent. This is not the Republican party I've come to know these past 30 years. This is new.
Its a cold realization to know that the social contract is broken. The right is enraged, and that unspoken, unwritten word has long been the only thing keeping it in check.

The right is a monster, a sleeping giant. What kept it in check is the fact that republicans held to the social contract to the point of blindness.

A loss? Well, its a bit sketchy, but raising a fuss would break the social contract

I'm being oppressed? I'll complain and try to change it through my vote, but any more would break the social contract

Your boot is on my neck, but I will trust in the courts rather than break the social contract

But this fraud, this result. The anger boiling over from the right. The contract is broken... and I suddenly feel a cold fear that the sleeping giant might have been awoken.

If Trump -doesn't- win I am suddenly afraid. Not of what the left will do, but about that giant waking.
I have to say I am seeing some of the cracks in the walls too. A shitstorm of biblical proportions is brewing.

I think Mitch was okay with Biden getting in days ago. He was going to keep the Senate, and was even in talks with Biden cabinet approvals. He was going to get rid of Trump and keep his throne....until Georgia Senate votes started coming in too Democratic to ensure that both seats were going in a runoff. That pissed him off. Added onto the fact that Fox ratings was tanking, his party was in revolt where people like class pets Miss Lindsey Graham and Little Marco were misbehaving, and the gains in the House he only dreamed about. All these factors added up to call off the establishment coup amd signal to the other RINOs to start to fight back. That's why Kemp toed the line. You think he doesn't know whats happening in his own state for DAYS?

The Republicans have lock step gone after protecting the king, probably after even attempting the coup in the first place. They are starting to fight back. Let's see what happens.

Culturally, things are changing too for the constituency. Cubans were partying in Miami yesterday for Trump and a FUCKING HURRICAINE hit it and flooded the area. The vocal Republicans are pissed. I even saw this with my folks who BLOCKED every news channel to not give them a single shekel.

Things are happening fast. What happens next is anyone's guess.
 
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The truly fascinating thing that's going on right now is that while we're all here arguing about whether the litigation will be successful or not, we really haven't heard a peep out of the Biden camp about these challenges, and they're generally acting like they're already planning their full transition down to a complete reupholstering. Do you think this is more that they're supremely confident that they've got this in the bag and don't even need to waste time to rebuff these litigation challenges, or are they maintaining this cloak of deception while they're secretly panicking/setting up their legal teams?
I think we won't know the answer unless Trump succeeds at least in flipping some or one state. Either way you just have to wait and see
 
actually the best system we have is a caste system.
class mobility is a lie and has done more damage to civilization than almost anything else, regardless of how you feel about being able to move beyond your station or not.
I think you almost cut yourself on that edge.
 
Yes, it's a Democrat legislature, but some things may be difficult to just blow off.
My favorite outcome by far will be if the results go on purely partisan lines.

Every involved state with GOP leaders: “Oh, no, there was totally rampant fraud.”

Nevada, on the other hand: “NOPE EVERYTHING’S FINE ABSOLUTELY NO POSSIBLE ISSUE HERE.”
 
She already cucked and congratulated Biden, and said we need to heal as a nation.

I'm sorry I spammed her workout picture now. Treacherous witch.

Until payment processors can't be brought for RICO charges, causing them to have to make decisions on their own for who to allow use of their platform, I don't see them ever being truly neutral.

Right, so we're agreed then. A SESTA/FOSTA like legal hack which takes CDA§230 protection away from Twitter and Facebook but doesn't bankrupt too many other companies.

And don't say 'Gustav! You said no collateral damage!'. No, I didn't not. I said minimal collateral damage. Maybe Reddit gets caught by it, sued and bankrupted. Who gives a shit?

It's like when we were bombing Iraq. We tried to minimize the collateral damage but there's always a few civilians who just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Shit happens.

All I'm saying is when the Cruz missiles rain down on Twitter and Facebook we're perfectly safe here. Perfectly sa~
 
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This is why you don't do people like that. Congratulations, you let Saddam go out like a true man. Plus we literally went to war against a country that hadn't done shit to us. Congratulations Dubya you fucking moron. Anyone who thinks fucking Trump is literally Hitler missed the moron we had in the White House from 2000-2008.
I wish his own people could have roped him without our 'help'. Fuck Saddam, but there was literally no reason to be there and why I am so skeptical of a Biden win being good for us or the world.
 
She already cucked and congratulated Biden, and said we need to heal as a nation.

True, but with Tulsi, she's been on the DNC shitlist for a while ever since she sank Kamala in the first of the primary debates. Kamala's now the de facto president-elect so this very well could be a case of the Surf Mom covering her own ass.

Not only does the DNC hate her, but so do a lot of The Squad and Woke Left types who see her as a female Joe Manchin for some reason. MovieBob even called her a "IDW incel chud waifu" because of course he did

Tulsi's probably the one politician I'd give the most benefit of the doubt to for congratulating Biden and towing the "we need to heal as a nation" party line.

She's a center-left Democrat and is pretty much one of the few "Y2K Liberals" still in the party who didn't go corporatist neoliberal or full-on DemSoc Woke Left either.

In 2004, she'd be very progressive. Now she's a center-left liberal and considered a moderate.

Cocaine Mitch just came out strong for Trump

It's on like Michelle Kwan.

Mitch is totally mercenary and yesterday his support for Trump felt very tepid in the "hedging my bets" sort of way.

He must know something we don't to go full on MAGA with this and refuse to acknowledge Biden as the president elect right now.

Honestly these initial steps by the GOP are probably the only reason I am still in the thread besides handing out stickers to everyone; If they were not going to side with Trump the election was already over. They seem to be siding with him now, hence the circus continues.

As late as this sounds, I really do think AOC's self own might've been the thing that set them off. If Cocaine Mitch is going from "sorta tepid support" to enthusiastic support and refusing to acknowledge Biden right now while several other big name Republicans at the state and federal levels are backing Trump, shit's getting real.

They know that the "unity" plea is a sham aside from maybe the most cucked of RINO's like Romney or the Blue Dogs and moderate Dems like Manchin and Tulsi.

Surf Mommy has always been more radical than she lets on. She just knows that IdPol and TDS are turnoffs for normies, so she plays the moderate and hides her power level.

Possibly, but there's also the angle of her congratulating Biden because the woman that she humiliated and crashed on national TV is the actual pick for the presidency right now.
 
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This is why you don't do people like that. Congratulations, you let Saddam go out like a true man. Plus we literally went to war against a country that hadn't done shit to us. Congratulations Dubya you fucking moron. Anyone who thinks fucking Trump is literally Hitler missed the moron we had in the White House from 2000-2008.
And speaking as a Trump disliker, how many completely unnecessary, optional wars did he start? Oh, zero? None at all? I wonder how many Biden will start.
I agree with that. And it was the legacy of the neoliberals and neocons like Bush who led to the circumstances Trump rose in anyway.

Slight correction, Bush was in the white house from 2001-2009.
 
And speaking as a Trump disliker, how many completely unnecessary, optional wars did he start? Oh, zero? None at all? I wonder how many Biden will start.
Listen wars are okay to start if it's for our Democracy, you trump-loving facist

It's really ironic the Democrat party may become like the Republican party was in the 2000's
 
I literally got called out by a 90 year old uncle/cousin/whatever in my weird white trash family tree because he said you're just saying whatever pisses off the most people. He doesn't even know the word "troll" and called me out for trolling. Basically he knows I'm more or less a socialist so my sudden burst of pro-Trump posts was obviously bogus to him.
 
And speaking as a Trump disliker, how many completely unnecessary, optional wars did he start? Oh, zero? None at all? I wonder how many Biden will start.
Even if you think Trump is a lout, he has a fairly respectable record regarding foreign policy, new space race (although much like JFK, what has been done thus far is prep work that won't see the light of day until 2025 and beyond), and at the eleventh hour H1B visas. Biden would be wise to continue all of these things, but they're already fucking up by starting shit with the Israelis. Kikes gonna kike, but holy shit do the Dems want to replace "Die for Israel" with "Die for Palestine"?
 
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