Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

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Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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Non-US citizen dropping in here to derail the interesting left/right conversation,

I've been checking the news, saying that DJT has been filing lawsuits, and/or asking for recounts in certain key-states due to claims of voter fraud. Unfortunately, a lot of US media outlets are blocked where I live so I can't find many details. I don't know how much I'd be willing to believe them anyway.

Can anyone break down how this works exactly and, objectively speaking (regardless of who you'd want to win), what are DJT's odds of changing the outcome of this election? You don't have to info dump everything, not asking for someone to be my butler, but a general idea, a useful link or even a referral to a post in this long thread would be appreciated.

I clearly am speaking from a place of limited knowledge, but, even if the voting outcome in 2-3 states was reversed, Biden would still meet the 270 electorate minimum in most cases, no? Trump would have to take MI, WI, GA, PA, NV and AZ to really turn the tables. Just seems like a long shot or an attempt to delay the process. Then again, I don't know?
Trump would only need pennsylvania, georgia, and Arizona to hit 270. As for if the DoJ can change the outcome, no. They can go after the fraud and criminally charge those who did it, but that in and of its self will have zero effect on the results. Due to the secret ballot once fraud votes are added into the count, they can not be removed. The supreme court at the state or federal level can nullify the vote, order a recount, order a revote, or kick it to the house of representatives for them to vote en block for who wins, which means one representative from each state votes, which means Trump would almost certanly win.

The big thing to watch for is the supreme court ruling on whether ballots recieved after 8pm on november 3rd or counted after midnight are legal. If they interpret the constitution literally and as the supreme court of montana has, all votes recieved or counted past november 3rd will be nullified, which will either make Trump the electoral victor or make it so neither hit 270, which will again lead to HoR.
 
I’ve been pro-mask from the very start but I start to think that it’s actually false that the masks do much to stop the spread of the virus, HOWEVER there’s a theory that the mask decreasing the viral load when you get infected is probably a big deal. We see a decrease in critical cases with a huge increase in cases overall (which is only partially explained by more testing) which may be attributed to mask use.
Or
The strains of the virus that kill the host die with the host.
The less lethal strains live on and spread the most are the asymptomatic ones.

Sooner or later the virus will just seem to disappear like every other one before it.
 
Non-US citizen dropping in here to derail the interesting left/right conversation,

I've been checking the news, saying that DJT has been filing lawsuits, and/or asking for recounts in certain key-states due to claims of voter fraud. Unfortunately, a lot of US media outlets are blocked where I live so I can't find many details. I don't know how much I'd be willing to believe them anyway.

Can anyone break down how this works exactly and, objectively speaking (regardless of who you'd want to win), what are DJT's odds of changing the outcome of this election? You don't have to info dump everything, not asking for someone to be my butler, but a general idea, a useful link or even a referral to a post in this long thread would be appreciated.

I clearly am speaking from a place of limited knowledge, but, even if the voting outcome in 2-3 states was reversed, Biden would still meet the 270 electorate minimum in most cases, no? Trump would have to take MI, WI, GA, PA, NV and AZ to really turn the tables. Just seems like a long shot or an attempt to delay the process. Then again, I don't know?
There is no chance of Trump winning,people are grabbing onto lies and false hope from weak online sources to make up hypotheticals where it is possible.
 
Any of you Trumpers still holding onto the idea your guy deserves anything need only look at what he's retweeted:

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He's going after Jeb. It's over. Done. JEB is an American treasure, this is tantamount to blowing up Mt Rushmore or melting down the Liberty Bell.

Trump's presidency is over. Please clap.
 
i have an annoucement for all of you, that just wanna grill

the left ain´t taking their loss, and no matter how hysteriacal they´´ll get (trust me, please, the salt IS flowing), they wont surrender.

and they think they´ve won. i rest my case, anybody that supports Bernie or other communist behavior should fuck to North Korea

how hard can it be, Biden retards?

everybody knows that Trump won

the left has to cope with the FACT, that they have to cheat

i´ve seen ALL the sticker (3 random retards). u mad bro? :D
 
Tbh this isn't even fun anymore. It's just a bunch of schizos screaming "I DIDN'T LOSE!" at the top of their lungs and grasping at every single straw they can find. Now it's Clarence Thomas. Next, it will be some other shitty leak by veritas or something. Then there will be an inauguration and then all the same people will start talking about an impeachment all while reposting the same shitty stale ass Wojak memes, blaming jews along the way and sweeping every singe failure under the rug the moment it becomes apparent enough even for the schizos.
 
Tbh this isn't even fun anymore. It's just a bunch of schizos screaming "I DIDN'T LOSE!" at the top of their lungs and grasping at every single straw they can find. Now it's Clarence Thomas. Next, it will be some other shitty leak by veritas or something. Then there will be an inauguration and then all the same people will start talking about an impeachment all while reposting the same shitty stale ass Wojak memes, blaming jews along the way and sweeping every singe failure under the rug the moment it becomes apparent enough even for the schizos.
you voted for a racist child abuser. deal with the fact, that no normal human being is gonna suppert your childfuckingways. just aknowledge fact, you´re pedofhiles and NOBODY wants you :)
 
Here are the numbers, which show how bad it is for Trump (Trump needs multiple of these states).

Arizona (EV: 11)
Biden leads with 1,648,642 votes (49.4%), Trump trails with 1,633,896 votes (49.0%).
TimestampIn The LeadVote MarginVotes Remaining (est.)ChangeBatch BreakdownBatch TrendHurdle
12 hours agoBiden14,74654,2836,252Biden 48.9% / 51.1% TrumpTrump is averaging 58.7%Trump needs 63.8%

Georgia (EV: 16)
Biden leads with 2,469,306 votes (49.5%), Trump trails with 2,456,878 votes (49.2%).
TimestampIn The LeadVote MarginVotes Remaining (est.)ChangeBatch BreakdownBatch TrendHurdle
32 minutes agoBiden12,428Unknown285Biden 66.0% / 34.0% TrumpTrump is averaging 28.7%Unknown

Nevada (EV: 6)
Biden leads with 670,344 votes (50.2%), Trump trails with 634,158 votes (47.5%).
TimestampIn The LeadVote MarginVotes Remaining (est.)ChangeBatch BreakdownBatch TrendHurdle
21 hours agoBiden36,18666,08010,461Biden 59.1% / 40.9% TrumpTrump is averaging 38.5%Trump needs 78.0%

Pennsylvania (EV: 20)
Biden leads with 3,365,338 votes (49.7%), Trump trails with 3,320,235 votes (49.0%).
TimestampIn The LeadVote MarginVotes Remaining (est.)ChangeBatch BreakdownBatch TrendHurdle
12 hours agoBiden45,10355,121486Biden 33.1% / 66.9% TrumpTrump is averaging 31.3%Trump needs 91.4%
 
Here are the numbers, which show how bad it is for Trump (Trump needs multiple of these states).

TimestampIn The LeadVote MarginVotes Remaining (est.)ChangeBatch BreakdownBatch TrendHurdle
Arizona (EV: 11)
Biden leads with 1,648,642 votes (49.4%), Trump trails with 1,633,896 votes (49.0%).
12 hours agoBiden14,74654,2836,252Biden 48.9% / 51.1% TrumpTrump is averaging 58.7%Trump needs 63.8%

TimestampIn The LeadVote MarginVotes Remaining (est.)ChangeBatch BreakdownBatch TrendHurdle
Georgia (EV: 16)
Biden leads with 2,469,306 votes (49.5%), Trump trails with 2,456,878 votes (49.2%).
32 minutes agoBiden12,428Unknown285Biden 66.0% / 34.0% TrumpTrump is averaging 28.7%Unknown

TimestampIn The LeadVote MarginVotes Remaining (est.)ChangeBatch BreakdownBatch TrendHurdle
Nevada (EV: 6)
Biden leads with 670,344 votes (50.2%), Trump trails with 634,158 votes (47.5%).
21 hours agoBiden36,18666,08010,461Biden 59.1% / 40.9% TrumpTrump is averaging 38.5%Trump needs 78.0%

TimestampIn The LeadVote MarginVotes Remaining (est.)ChangeBatch BreakdownBatch TrendHurdle
Pennsylvania (EV: 20)
Biden leads with 3,365,338 votes (49.7%), Trump trails with 3,320,235 votes (49.0%).
12 hours agoBiden45,10355,121486Biden 33.1% / 66.9% TrumpTrump is averaging 31.3%Trump needs 91.4%
So, tl.dr, he's fucked.
 
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