TL;DR Here is "The Left", along with almost every single Democrat, university student/grad, and the vast majority of those preening over the travesty that is transpiring:
"Classical Liberal" is as rare as a sincere conservative (ie not a neo-con or even "muh god emperor"). You can debate, discuss and even be friends with classical liberals. Heck, you can even go to the range for some shots and then go to the bar for some shots.
"Liberals" today are not this. They are, factually speaking, demoralized.
How do you know if you're talking to someone who is a classical lib vs a demoralized soul? Simple: Let's say you're talking with someone. They start parroting the term "
red scare"--as if Communists (Socialists) infiltrators weren't discovered in so many facets of America ranging from media (Hollywood), government and yes, even academia. There was never a "red scare" as in "people scared for no reason of commies all around them". History from just over forty years ago has been totally rewritten in their minds just as it is continually being rewritten right now in mainstream media.
Show this person what they believe is wrong with evidence. If they accept it or decide to research it themselves (not using something like Snopes), then it's fine. If they react on emotion, arguing without research, parroting indoctrinated talking points, or even react violently, they are demoralized.
They even argue without irony that gulags weren't and aren't abject horrors.
As I posted before:
To look at the faces and hear the voices of the demoralized is to stare into the very face of the utterly dehumanized through indoctrination.
Socialism/Communism utterly strips all moral fiber and logical acuity in favor of the ideology which pits all opposed or neutral to the ideology as the enemy, and the enemy is deserving of any evil that befalls them (hence the mass rape campaigns, the public genocide/lynchings, the evils of the gulags, Black Maria vans etc.). As for those under the ideology? They must refrain from ever speaking anything that would undermine the champions of the ideology (hence the tolerance of pedophilia and silencing of victims in Stalin's government).
Victims are silenced. Truths that would undermine the ideology or its champions are erased or concealed. Any and all cruelty is justified against those opposed to the ideology and/or its champions. It's expected you, being faithful to the ideology, are to spy on your fellow ideologues continually to watch for treachery, and if found you must expose them, report them, shame them and regard them as dead to you no matter who they are (spouse, child, etc.)
In short:
Socialism is literally a cult. It meets all the qualifications of a cult by any definition. It's the world most successful, widespread and enduring cult without deity. Do not communicate with the demoralized. It is pointless. It's like trying to break someone from cult indoctrination. You will only frustrate yourself at best, become their violent target at worst.
P.S. "wealth redistribution" literally means "forced wealth redistribution" because it's not based on charity. It's state-enforced, meaning the government uses force to take what is yours to give it to those who it deems less fortunate. That is literally government theft under the guise of Robin Hood logic.
You are adults. Everyone posting here should know better.
