Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

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Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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But most people who vouch for it don't think it is, same with Nazis. Everyone thinks their way is going to make the world a better place.
yeah, why do you think these unhinged lunatics are about to completely rewrite history in their name?

to cover up how shitty, inhumane and outright dangerous their pathetic religion was, is and always will be
 
Leftists, it may seem like a silly question, but do you think of yourselves as "good people"?

Hell, I'm on this website, so probably not the kind of leftie that you're looking an answer from. More Kantian in my view of moral, thus good. So think of the categorical imperative, stealing bad, don't steal. Name calling mean, don't name call. All that kinda of thing. But society in my view is flawed, so each side will happily forgo the moral or point in question, when it doesn't favour them, thus the human condition, as long as it's not me, I don't give shit, sorta thing. Or my group isn't involved, let's bash the other group, it's just how Humans' evolved and all that good stuff.

So at the point, lefites are good in a number of ways.

Want to help the disabled.
The poor.
The unequal.

In of itself, those two things are good ambitions, you help improve those sectors, society on a whole expands, grows and becomes better. But it takes more than simple platitudes of how 'equal' we are now, to actually do that, it takes economical push power from the top to enable it. The left ain't got any that, thus why they're stuck slithering up their own ass, looking for the most unequal, most disadvantaged wanker they can find, because if they can help them an inch, that almost justifies the shit they've done without actually fixing anything.

At the same time, the right have their own good points. Their own categorical imperatives that they're moving to and striving to attain. Only problem is, they want to do it, for the least amount of work, now I don't mean work as in hour/time spent, I mean work as in dollar spent. The whole idea of selling government contracts to the lowest bidder for example, want shoddy, shitty work? Go with that system, even if it's a protection against corruption, it's one of the examples of how the right are failing in duty to the moral of the issue.

There's simply no 'good' people, there's people failing upwards if that makes sense, but they need to get over the whole human conditon thing before they can actually achieve a sense moral rightness.

If ya don't like to read, ignore all that. Answer is yes and no.
 
Why do they keep insisting he leave now when he's legally still president until January?
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If you're not a socialist when you're young you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're an adult, you have no brain.
Funny, I remember the "non-heartless" commie kids being the biggest asshole bullies in middle and high school, anyway I guess I'm both heartless and brainless since I'm not a conservative faggot :(
 
The unequal.
wtf is this? this is exactly why the left will fail and further proof the whole scheme is evil

you want equal outcome, not equal possibilities. and there´s a HUGE difference

and by suggesting that YOU want to help the disabled/poor, you imply that your side is the only one that will. thats lunacy, disingemious at best and you´re fucking lying to the people, you´re soooooooo invested in helping.

get bent with your fucked up language, your child molesting and your import of even more violent lunatics
 
The one thing I couldn't stand about trump supporters was their Covid 19 denialism. Jesus Christ, how stupid are you that you won't even put on your mask. Who wants Covid? even a young healthy person can have their ass beat in sideways by the virus. That is lost productivity for your job and lost income.
The opposition to masks above and beyond the opposition to lockdowns I never understood. My only guesses are that people who protested masks are retarded and maybe the big tech companies signal boosted the most retarded people they could to discredit any opposition to the police state.
 
The opposition to masks above and beyond the opposition to lockdowns I never understood. My only guesses are that people who protested masks are retarded and maybe the big tech companies signal boosted the most retarded people they could to discredit any opposition to the police state.
People want to feel "free" by not wearing a mask, thinking that makes them look like badasses.
I don't feel bad for the idiots who deny Covid and then get themselves sick, but I do feel bad for the people they infect.
 
Hell, I'm on this website, so probably not the kind of leftie that you're looking an answer from. More Kantian in my view of moral, thus good. So think of the categorical imperative, stealing bad, don't steal. Name calling mean, don't name call. All that kinda of thing. But society in my view is flawed, so each side will happily forgo the moral or point in question, when it doesn't favour them, thus the human condition, as long as it's not me, I don't give shit, sorta thing. Or my group isn't involved, let's bash the other group, it's just how Humans' evolved and all that good stuff.

So at the point, lefites are good in a number of ways.

Want to help the disabled.
The poor.
The unequal.

In of itself, those two things are good ambitions, you help improve those sectors, society on a whole expands, grows and becomes better. But it takes more than simple platitudes of how 'equal' we are now, to actually do that, it takes economical push power from the top to enable it. The left ain't got any that, thus why they're stuck slithering up their own ass, looking for the most unequal, most disadvantaged wanker they can find, because if they can help them an inch, that almost justifies the shit they've done without actually fixing anything.

At the same time, the right have their own good points. Their own categorical imperatives that they're moving to and striving to attain. Only problem is, they want to do it, for the least amount of work, now I don't mean work as in hour/time spent, I mean work as in dollar spent. The whole idea of selling government contracts to the lowest bidder for example, want shoddy, shitty work? Go with that system, even if it's a protection against corruption, it's one of the examples of how the right are failing in duty to the moral of the issue.

There's simply no 'good' people, there's people failing upwards if that makes sense, but they need to get over the whole human conditon thing before they can actually achieve a sense moral rightness.

If ya don't like to read, ignore all that. Answer is yes and no.
Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.-G. Michael Hopf
 
2020 leftists say they're more inclusive but from what I've seen in the past four years they seem to be more racist, sexist and generally intolerant than the right. I say that as someone who ranks pretty high on the progressive stack.

2020 right wingers are trying to keep the country from devolving into a dystopian communist trainwreck.

Both sides think they're doing the right thing.


There's normal shitflinging and then there's this:
The left is like that nerdy kid in class that tries too hard to fit in. It's clear that what they are trying to do is copy elements of the right that people find appealing but it doesnt make their political views any more retarded, id argue its not even the left/right political dichotomy itself, i could care less about that, its the things they stand for that classify them as inept retards.
>Trannies are perfectly ok, what? Chemical castration and genital mutilation to 7 year olds ? Their body their choice bigot, and i can also chop myself up as much as i want, its perfectly normal behavior
>What do you mean socialism isnt free, money just comes out of of nowhere and uuuuuuh fuck rich people reeeee
There is many more examples i could give but i dont want to go on a tangent. As much as they are trying to fit in they are not any less retarded and in fact come off as cringy instead in my eyes.
 
People want to feel "free" by not wearing a mask, thinking that makes them look like badasses.
I don't feel bad for the idiots who deny Covid and then get themselves sick, but I do feel bad for the people they infect.
I only wear a mask where I'm legally required to, as does everyone else I encounter. The science is longstanding on this issue, masks do nothing when it comes to inhibiting the spread of viruses in a pandemic setting. Masks are only useful in narrow situations like Surgery because the environment is controlled and the Surgeons and Nurses do a lengthy cleaning process before the operation. There was a reason the Surgeon General and Fauci kept saying masks were more likely to spread the virus back in Feb-April because it caused people to consistently reuse or fiddle with the mask. Blind devotion to the masks wont be deterred by anything, even though we have worn masks for months now the spikes are occurring in massive waves (assuming the PCR testing is done properly which is its own can of worms) across Europe and the Northeast of the US. All human efforts have been useless because there IS NO WAY TO STOP TRANSMISSION. It assumes 100% efficiency from humanity, even the Medical field which are curated environments, screw up and leave gloves and other stuff inside humans during operations, and cross contaminate with regularity. If you really wanted to follow the science on the 'Rona you would read Hope-Simpson's book about seasonality of Influenza ('Rona tracks alongside Flu) and notice that Europe and the Northeast US are EXACTLY where Hope-Simpson said we would be in his book. The US gets a double hump on any virus graph because Florida, Texas and other states are lower to the equator, latitude matters when dealing with this virus. We're going to be dealingg with an increase of Covid-19 until the end of January and there is nothing any politician can do about it. If they were intelligent they would have done absolutely no restrictions at all during the summer and encouraged everyone to spread it during the warm season when people have the highest amounts of Vitamin D in their system and they're the most active. Now we're doing the COVID shit during a time period where the average human has a weaker immune system because of the cold weather. Its as if they were asking for a disaster.
 

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I am leftist, after reading Peter Singers "Solution to World Poverty" http://schoolforethics.org/wp-conte...Solution-to-World-Poverty-Lifeboat-Ethics.pdf I came to terms that I am not a good person. I am not a communist leftist. I am a believer in the good of capitalism. The only reason I lean left (really American Democrat) is because the right (American Republican) more dishonest and bad for capitalism in the long term. Bill Clinton had the budget balanced and was figuring out how to deal with a surplus and Bush fucked all that right up. Obama course corrected it and Trump hasn't been bad for the economy in the short term, but our standing has been hurt. Republicans have threatened the US's reserve currency which lets us live on easier street with dumb debt ceiling fights that they cause. They only talk about scaling back spending when they don't control all the bodies of government. I don't consider myself especially good, but I don't think the other side is any better or worse than me in general
 
The one thing I couldn't stand about trump supporters was their Covid 19 denialism. Jesus Christ, how stupid are you that you won't even put on your mask. Who wants Covid? even a young healthy person can have their ass beat in sideways by the virus. That is lost productivity for your job and lost income.
up untill September, WHO adviced AGAINST wearing masks, saying there is no proof those do anything against infection
the "we believe in science" crowd didn't want to believe in science in this case

people who had insisted he's a failure must feel really silly now
 
I only wear a mask where I'm legally required to, as does everyone else I encounter. The science is longstanding on this issue, masks do nothing when it comes to inhibiting the spread of viruses in a pandemic setting. Masks are only useful in narrow situations like Surgery because the environment is controlled and the Surgeons and Nurses do a lengthy cleaning process before the operation. There was a reason the Surgeon General and Fauci kept saying masks were more likely to spread the virus back in Feb-April because it caused people to consistently reuse or fiddle with the mask. Blind devotion to the masks wont be deterred by anything, even though we have worn masks for months now the spikes are occurring in massive waves (assuming the PCR testing is done properly which is its own can of worms) across Europe and the Northeast of the US. All human efforts have been useless because there IS NO WAY TO STOP TRANSMISSION. It assumes 100% efficiency from humanity, even the Medical field which are curated environments, screw up and leave gloves and other stuff inside humans during operations, and cross contaminate with regularity. If you really wanted to follow the science on the 'Rona you would read Hope-Simpson's book about seasonality of Influenza ('Rona tracks alongside Flu) and notice that Europe and the Northeast US are EXACTLY where Hope-Simpson said we would be in his book. The US gets a double hump on any virus graph because Florida, Texas and other states are lower to the equator, latitude matters when dealing with this virus. We're going to be dealingg with an increase of Covid-19 until the end of January and there is nothing any politician can do about it. If they were intelligent they would have done absolutely no restrictions at all during the summer and encouraged everyone to spread it during the warm season when people have the highest amounts of Vitamin D in their system and they're the most active. Now we're doing the COVID shit during a time period where the average human has a weaker immune system because of the cold weather. Its as if they were asking for a disaster.
I'm the same except I just think the masks are dumb dumb and don't stop the spread. I don't back it up with data though because I'm a red blooded American.
All I needed to know masks don't do what they currently claim is having been born before 2020 and experiencing the "Stop buying up all the fucking masks" time early on and getting PSA'd on how they're not helpful because people don't use them properly and the people who would use them properly are medical professionals who need them.

Then getting PSA'd on "if you insist on wearing a mask, here's how to make your own and here's how to properly wear it."
Then getting PSA'd on "Wear a mask or you kill the old people"
Now people say the reason this series of events happened is because they were just trying to get masks to medical professionals, meaning the govt officials like Fauci and the Surgeon General intentionally lied on record early on and then decided to tell the truth later, which is retarded.

I'm not a #nevermasker but clearly they're not effective so I don't care.

edit: I forgot the PSAs on how corona viruses are so small that masks don't stop them anyway
 
I am leftist, after reading Peter Singers "Solution to World Poverty" http://schoolforethics.org/wp-conte...Solution-to-World-Poverty-Lifeboat-Ethics.pdf I came to terms that I am not a good person. I am not a communist leftist. I am a believer in the good of capitalism. The only reason I lean left (really American Democrat) is because the right (American Republican) more dishonest and bad for capitalism in the long term.
Don't take this as an insult, but it sounds like you're really stretching the definition of the word "leftist."
Also: Biden isn't president. Anybody who claims otherwise is a retard and/or has a hidden agenda.
Biden won't be president until Jan. 20, everyone knows that.
 
I've run out of copium to deal with this election, to be brutally honest. I guess everyone who likened Trump to Dubya I weren't kidding. I think what makes me viscerally disgusted are all the people on social media stanning Biden and Harris as if they weren't calling both of them unelectable during the primaries.

The one saving grace Trump had was that he didn't get us into any new wars. I doubt I can say the same about Biden or Harris for that matter. I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up going into an all-out war with Syria, Russia, and Iran in the near future.
 
I've run out of copium to deal with this election, to be brutally honest. I guess everyone who likened Trump to Dubya I weren't kidding. I think what makes me viscerally disgusted are all the people on social media stanning Biden and Harris as if they weren't calling both of them unelectable during the primaries.

The one saving grace Trump had was that he didn't get us into any new wars. I doubt I can say the same about Biden or Harris for that matter. I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up going into an all-out war with Syria, Russia, and Iran in the near future.
A president not getting more involved in any war effort is way ahead of the pack imo, but mostly for budgetary reasons above all else. That said, Trump seems to be a firm believer in the infinite money cheat, so long as Congress will approve stuff.
Corona fucked that up even more so and I feel we'll reap what we sow economically down the road but hey, best economy ever!

Still, cutting down foreign malarkey is a massive step in the right direction if you ask me and was a genuine surprise. When Trump was elected I expected we'd be going to war with Korea then later Syria. I wasn't expecting Iran but was worried...
Surprisingly the loud mouth tough guy personality is also the most peaceful.
 
Now people say the reason this series of events happened is because they were just trying to get masks to medical professionals, meaning the govt officials like Fauci and the Surgeon General intentionally lied on record early on and then decided to tell the truth later, which is retarded.
Fauci has stated he did that very thing. But the science still remains, masks and lock downs do nothing. No human lives on an island unto themselves and they will have to interact with others to get food or other essential goods. The one and only truth to COVID-19 is that humans will only manage to wrestle it under control by hurling bodies at it just like we've done with every other seasonal disease. I'm not entirely convinced that COVID was particularly lethal either, and it may be a matter of contextualizing society it operated in. The death toll could reasonably be explained by years of influenza vaccinations, normally we would have lost a fair amount of geezers per year to Influenza each winter. Instead we had a huge amount of very weak individuals hanging around that got visited by the grim reaper all at once instead of over the past several years. If we look at an excess death graph dating back to 2000 we can see a slow but steady decline leading up to 2020, the average age of death to covid being 84 years old is why I believe this.
I fear the ramifications of COVID on the economy and society more than I fear the actual virus. Some politicians have become drunk on power and I've long felt that the Floyd riots had more to do with venting frustration and anxiety over the lock downs than it did with some drug addict getting knee'd in the neck.
 
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