2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Meat Target said:
Here's my latest take, now that the fraud claims are gaining traction: some people will be punished for it, but no DNC bigwigs, even if they find that Joe or his handlers sent out an email that reads "shit guys, we're losing, fire up the Ballot-o-Matics!"

The only ones who will be held accountable, if any, are no-name poll workers who got caught.
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Perhaps, but I don't think this time around the small fries they want to sacrifice won't squeal.
 
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St8Bustah said:
she was saying that as society does not exist, the role of government isn't to uphold society, but instead to uphold family; ie, the government acts as an extension of the family, which when combined with increasing measures to dissolve and break up the family unit is one of the most trotskyist positions that you could possibly have. She's essentially saying that the government is your family.

communists aren't for wealth redistribution, if that was the case you would have seen wealth distribution within China, the Soviet Union and places like Venezuela, what communists /are/ for is wealth consolidation. The trick is that if you tell people that in order to attain wealth redistribution, they have to pay into a government money pot that then gets spent on 'social projects', then you can attain consolidation of wealth without ever having to tell anyone that's what you're doing in the first place. Trotsky and Lenin both talk about this in depth.

So now you take a look at the west, and this time focus on all of the consolidation of wealth done by increasingly large firms and governments, and you'll start to see why people are worried about the growth of communism at the expense of liberties; small, homegrown and free enterprise gradually gets erased and replaced with controlled arms of a larger entity, be it the state or a big corporation, there's not actually much difference between the two in functionality, even though many useful idiots will claim otherwise.

not posting anymore on this because we're getting off topic again, but I've linked a video on this subject in the deep thoughts thread on communism if you're interested.
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Well said, it's quite something when people confuse the actual aims of communism with its "town square" stated aims.
 
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The more nervous they get, the more confident I become.
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deeplyhigh said:
Guess the useful idiots on the ground figured out calling for Republican heads was a bad idea and are claiming they just love us and want us to be happy. Too late!
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Dear Progressives, Bidenites, Allies, BIPOC, LGBTQUIABCWTF, or whatever you have taken to calling yourselves these days:

I trust your sincerity, I trust that you believe that you are doing the right thing. Hell, I even trust that you want the best for the world.

What I do not trust is the institutions that you rally to, nor the people who established, run, and fund them. I do not trust the logistical nor economic feasibility of your plans. I do not trust the people you send time and again to be your representatives in the national legislature. I do not trust the wonderful world you envisage, because it is incongruous with even the most basic understanding of humanity. I do not trust a plan that entails giving the government infinite power over my life, no matter how many promises it makes that it will surrender that power upon achieving "true socialism". I do not trust the government to defend me in my hour of need. I do not trust the government to know what the right choice is. I do not trust any government with these things, for I understand that governments are created by and made up of people, and that people do the wrong thing all the time. I do not trust the media that determines the direction you sway, for it has been proven time and again to be a brood of vipers.

And, above all, I do not trust you, the people who wrote me off as a racist, sexist nazi bigot every time I brought any of these concerns up, the people who bray for my blood and then ask for my hand in friendship. You, the people, who through your negligence allowed our nation to reach this sorry state of affairs. No, I do not trust you at all.

Sincerely,
A Patriot
 
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Meat Target said:
Here's my latest take, now that the fraud claims are gaining traction: some people will be punished for it, but no DNC bigwigs, even if they find that Joe or his handlers sent out an email that reads "shit guys, we're losing, fire up the Ballot-o-Matics!"

The only ones who will be held accountable, if any, are no-name poll workers who got caught.
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Yeah that will likely happen if the fraud cases gain a lot of traction that Trump wins, all the fraud will be blamed on the poll workers or machines "glitching", the bigwigs won't throw anyone big and Trump likely won't pursue further but just be grateful he would get a second term if that is the case (there is a very big chance Joe will be in the white house in January however)

Aldeland said:
I get the feeling they might be 100% okay with throwing the defunct Joepedo to the wolves
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They won't, it would be bad optics if they throw a candidate they knew is corrupt. They'd likely say it was a misunderstanding and the fault of rabid poll workers while then going on to still say DRUMPF STOLE THE ELECTION
 
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captkrisma said:
Because it is. They're doing a practice called Love Bombing, a tactic where they say they love you and shower you with gifts and promises, but the moment you show interest in anything else, you're dead to them. Love Bombing was established by religious cults to abuse members into staying and remaining loyal.
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And it often works
 
Fanatical Pragmatist said:
This shit is really demeaning and passive-aggressive when you think about it.

>we want healthcare for you (because you're weak)
>we want education for you (because you're stupid)
>we want more pay for you (because you're a peasant)
>we want you to be as happy as we are right now (because lol we won suck it haha losers)
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I think you're stretching when you don't need to.

The point is that they're insincere and only regard the rank-and-file conservative as a concept.

So they don't recognize that they may be unwilling to accept having to foot the bill for universal healthcare because they don't trust the government to properly manage that system when it's the only healthcare option standing.

They don't recognize that they don't want to foot the bill for people to do and learn whatever in a public university, even if it's wholly useless.

They know close to nothing about business, so on top of not recognizing the lack of desire for the encroachment of federal government on their state affairs they also don't recognize that wages are costs and increased wages can choke out emerging and otherwise small businesses (and so while they say that they're fighting for the little guy and the working class, they ironically make the life of big business easier to small business' detriment).

And... well, they're liars. Many of them aren't happy. Many of them are profoundly miserable and disturbed, and the irony is that the people they wish to help may in fact be content with their lives and have no need of their help. Where this isn't the case, they have no sense of what their actual problems are in the first place, because they never freaking asked.

They want their policies enacted for the sake of their self-satisfaction, and only now are they attempting to back-justify them in order to make them more universally appealing. But you don't even need to think as deeply as I did to recognize why people like this are full of crap: do you honestly think people that are this paternalistic could ever have your best interests at heart?
 
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Truthboi said:
Yeah that will likely happen if the fraud cases gain a lot of traction that Trump wins, all the fraud will be blamed on the poll workers or machines "glitching", the bigwigs won't throw anyone big and Trump likely won't pursue further but just be grateful he would get a second term if that is the case (there is a very big chance Joe will be in the white house in January however)
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If he wins this after all, there's no way Trump lets this go without a Special Prosceutor.

A few of them. One for each swing state, one for Hunter Biden, and one for Hillary Clinton's emails.
 
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HumanHive said:
The Democrats need to do better than “MOM SAID IT WAS MY TURN” and actually start fighting this.
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Except fighting this means opening themselves up to discovery, which is the last thing they actually want. Which is why their strategy is to go full-court lugenpresse and try to speak the Biden administration into existence, no matter what reality, the courts, or the actual votes say. They've convinced themselves that the media (social and MSM) can gaslight a sitting president out of office.
 
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