2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Bartleby]

I mean, it's pretty obvious it's going to be the second point. Yes there's strong inclinations towards a lot of votes being fraudulent and a lot more that should never have been considered valid in the first place. But hey, after weeks of scrambling them in with the legitimate votes you can't tell exactly how many there are, so better just count them all. For democracy.
Which is going to be the exact opposite view of the people who want to invalidate the batches where we can't say for certain the votes actually were legitimate or not.

This is basically how massive voter fraud can continue for decades. Just make it impossible to discern between a genuine and fraudulent vote. Kinda like spiking the money supply with counterfeit currency that you can't differentiate from the real thing because the authentication security for the actual currency is piss poor

I don't know, it seems more likely that in the case that there is deemed to be sufficient evidence of fraud but it's been obfuscated too much to recount thoroughly before the electors vote, then direct appointment of electors is ruled an appropriate remedy as decided by state legislature in the contested states. I can't see the 5 conservative SCOTUS judges being against this verdict- I would even say Roberts might rule for it too, but considering I've never heard anything good about him I'll just assume he wouldn't. Besides, wasn't that essentially what they ruled, or were going to rule, in Bush v. Gore? This post got rainbow-bombed, but I don't see anything wrong with it, and is really the only precedent we have for something like this-

Here's an interesting ruling that Steve Bannon mentioned before his stream was cut. Apparently this ruling convinced Gore to drop his case because of the implied threat that the Republican Florida legislature could simply appoint electors.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/00-949
https://archive.vn/wip/sARut



The SCOTUS ruled that state legislatures have 'plenary' power to appoint electors. So my plan for the state legislatures of Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania state legislatures say they'll nominate electors unless the elections are re-run. Get the SCOTUS to rule on that.

You know it might work from the way Youtube and Twitter will nuke you from orbit for discussing it. The Democrats' coup can only work if Republicans don't try to do this and decide to take the L.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Oh, alright. I see what you mean. SPLIT the electoral votes proportionally and...


This would be done in every state. Its just the popular vote with extra steps. Sooo, not a good idea.

No, no. They actually got a point there. It's really not just the popular vote with extra steps. 'Cause it keeps the added power of rural areas. We do it here in spain, though our minimum is 4 seats per province (which you should really consider doing yourself, although I must admit it's not entirely true because the small islands, ceuta and melilla get less than 4, but... that shit whack) and you'd be surprised how good the system is at that. It makes the catalonians SEETHE constantly at how rurals always vote either regionalist, populism or blue colar socialism (all of which hate them for different reasons), it's true it'd give the left a better chance at taking rural areas but it would obliterate the cities and even then the left would have to go syndie+blue collar for that so I'd expect the lolberts to push the DNC out of those.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Was on OANN where apparently Mitch McConnell is reported to be concentrating on the senate. And people in the comments section are mad at him for being a RINO lol.

Mitch McConnell already has told the democrats to fuck off over Biden being president elect, has apparently ordered the GOP establishment to aid Trump and has no problem with senators questioning the election results.

What more do they want Cocaine Mitch to do ffs and its better if Mitch is kept put of view since he is to the democrats what Pelosi is to the Republicans. It's just that Pelosi is a complete incompetent politician that got in thanks to SF being a moral degenerate dump.

Reading on Newsmax that Trump's approval ratings have risen, possibly due to Biden backstabbing his voters and Trump looking calm and collected.

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

though our minimum is 4 seats per province (which you should really consider doing yourself,

The catch with that is that the size of the Electoral College isn't pulled out of a hat, but rather it's the total of House and Senate seats a state has. Every state has two senators and a minimum of one representative, so three it is.

 

[HumanHive]

Trump Files Emergency Injunction In Michigan Alleging Fraud; Demands Recounts Over 'Malfunctioning' Dominion Machines | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Trump legal documents have begun talking about Dominion voting machine “malfunctions”. Also emergency injunction, likely denied, off to SC.

Also may God send Mongolians to torment me for citing ZH this often.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

I don't know, it seems more likely that in the case that there is deemed to be sufficient evidence of fraud but it's been obfuscated too much to recount thoroughly before the electors vote, then direct appointment of electors is ruled an appropriate remedy as decided by state legislature in the contested states. I can't see the 5 conservative SCOTUS judges being against this verdict- I would even say Roberts might rule for it too, but considering I've never heard anything good about him I'll just assume he wouldn't. Besides, wasn't that essentially what they ruled, or were going to rule, in Bush v. Gore? This post got rainbow-bombed, but I don't see anything wrong with it, and is really the only precedent we have for something like this-

The ruling in Bush v. Gore also indicates they possibly would have sided with the voters over the legislature in the case of contested electors because the legislature held the elections under the premise that the voters would choose electors:

When the state legislature vests the right to vote for President in its people, the right to vote as the legislature has prescribed is fundamental; and one source of its fundamental nature lies in the equal weight accorded to each vote and the equal dignity owed to each voter. The State, of course, after granting the franchise in the special context of Article II, can take back the power to appoint electors. See id., at 35 (“[T]here is no doubt of the right of the legislature to resume the power at any time, for it can neither be taken away nor abdicated”) (quoting S. Rep. No. 395, 43d Cong., 1st Sess.).

The right to vote is protected in more than the initial allocation of the franchise. Equal protection applies as well to the manner of its exercise. Having once granted the right to vote on equal terms, the State may not, by later arbitrary and disparate treatment, value one person's vote over that of another.

I am not sure the Court would want to ultimately favor the legislatures over the voters if it's a case of contested electors. Though I will readily admit this is just a feeling about what the Court would decide!

 

[Puerto Pollo]

No, no. They actually got a point there. It's really not just the popular vote with extra steps. 'Cause it keeps the added power of rural areas. We do it here in spain, though our minimum is 4 seats per province (which you should really consider doing yourself, although I must admit it's not entirely true because the small islands, ceuta and melilla get less than 4, but... that shit whack) and you'd be surprised how good the system is at that. It makes the catalonians SEETHE constantly at how rurals always vote either regionalist, populism or blue colar socialism (all of which hate them for different reasons), it's true it'd give the left a better chance at taking rural areas but it would obliterate the cities and even then the left would have to go syndie+blue collar for that so I'd expect the lolberts to push the DNC out of those.

With all due respect if there's a country where politicians and parties are more pozzed, impotent and toxic than the US that's Spain.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

"Nothing to congratulate him about."
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What happened? Where did the GOP cucks go?

The Dems have put a knife to the throats of their voter base. Most politicians will end you for less. AOC’s buddies have made it clear that their friends and families are fair game as well. In other words, there is no way in hell things will go back to the usual bickering. Then there is the fact that the GOP could have some real lasting power if Trump wins again. All they have to do is say “No, you move.” even is they don’t mean it.

Name me someone stupid enough to drop this free win that isn’t a member of the squad.

 

[Superman93's Bitch]

He's not reliable. Trump should tell him to chill out or kick him to the crib because he's becoming ty beard.

I'm getting downvotes to my comments of rudy can you guys explain why he's such a good lawyer and will help trump win? Because huntergate did nothing and he sounds like a bumbling fool during the conferences. I hope we don't get our hopes up like in weeb wars. Because it can take 1 shit lawyer and 1 piss off judge to make a case go south.

No one cares about rekieta shit outside his thread. Keep it there.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I really don't care no more if the Democrats purge AOC or how Biden might come out on top and DNC establishes woke utopia.

To see a united GOP for the first time at the executive, senate and house is amazing.

Everyone keeps forgetting how Kevin McCarthy is basically the Republican house leader Trump wish he had in the first 2 years. Managed to make sure no GOP congressmam voted for impeachment and supported Trump before Mitch. One of the good things probably about the California GOP. Leagues better than Paul Ryan for sure.

I haven't been on Articles and News since election day as this shit is like history being made.

Seeing how nuts 2020 is, we will not get a conventional result.

 

[RisingPhoenix]

I mean, it's pretty obvious it's going to be the second point. Yes there's strong inclinations towards a lot of votes being fraudulent and a lot more that should never have been considered valid in the first place. But hey, after weeks of scrambling them in with the legitimate votes you can't tell exactly how many there are, so better just count them all. For democracy.
Which is going to be the exact opposite view of the people who want to invalidate the batches where we can't say for certain the votes actually were legitimate or not.

This is basically how massive voter fraud can continue for decades. Just make it impossible to discern between a genuine and fraudulent vote. Kinda like spiking the money supply with counterfeit currency that you can't differentiate from the real thing because the authentication security for the actual currency is piss poor

It's possible that any inquiry doesn't save the election, but just later is able to find the real fraud long after Biden gets into the White House. I still believe a Trump flip is very unlikely unless they have some really good evidence of fraud + the recounts may be likely to have more of the same issues if the teams running them are corrupt anyway...

Even if they find something legit, they best make sure the lawyers are prepped cuz Dems will find every which way to discredit it. The way the feds spoke to that postal whistleblower really makes me think they'll pull out everything in the playbook.

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

We're hitting based levels that shouldn't be possible.

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[Bartleby]

The ruling in Bush v. Gore also indicates they possibly would have sided with the voters over the legislature in the case of contested electors because the legislature held the elections under the premise that the voters would choose electors:

I am not sure the Court would want to ultimately favor the legislatures over the voters if it's a case of contested electors. Though I will readily admit this is just a feeling about what the Court would decide!

Interesting. I suppose my argument would be that the level of fraud in this situation goes beyond anything considered in 2000, and therefore it isn't possible to side with the voters because the reported results do not reliably represent them anymore. But still, it's good to keep this in mind, and of course this is also just my own feeling based on what I've heard about the SCOTUS judges in this thread so far (even so, I won't let my expectations get out of hand, we've still got a long way to go after all).

 

[spiritofamermaid]

Someone else has to do the job. Hopefully, someone younger and less Nancy.

Oh. wait that's right, she was supposed to resign from the position after the past term. RIP angry denture sucking from behind Trump during the SOTU, that was one of my favorite parts.

 

[WeDon'tNeedToWhisper]

STOP TRYING TO MAKE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT ELECT HAPPEN, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The ruling in Bush v. Gore also indicates they possibly would have sided with the voters over the legislature in the case of contested electors because the legislature held the elections under the premise that the voters would choose electors:

I am not sure the Court would want to ultimately favor the legislatures over the voters if it's a case of contested electors. Though I will readily admit this is just a feeling about what the Court would decide!

If Trump argues (and proves) fraud that won't apply. Fraudulent actions like manipulation and fake ballots are a usurpation of the electorate's will so appointing electors is back on the menu.

Also "Office of the President-Elect" is cringe af

 

[Tomboy Respecter]

Interesting. I suppose my argument would be that the level of fraud in this situation goes beyond anything considered in 2000, and therefore it isn't possible to side with the voters because the reported results do not reliably represent them anymore. But still, it's good to keep this in mind, and of course this is also just my own feeling based on what I've heard about the SCOTUS judges in this thread so far (even so, I won't let my expectations get out of hand, we've still got a long way to go after all).

The level of fraud in 2000 was miniscule. Most of the problem was how the actual ballot in Floria was organized, causing people to vote for Pat Buchanan instead of Al Gore. At this point, since we are dealing with astronomical levels of fraud, the voting totals cannot be trusted. Thus, the next alternative is the allowing the electors to choose who they want to direct their EC votes directly.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

Interesting. I suppose my argument would be that the level of fraud in this situation goes beyond anything considered in 2000, and therefore it isn't possible to side with the voters because the reported results do not reliably represent them anymore. But still, it's good to keep this in mind, and of course this is also just my own feeling based on what I've heard about the SCOTUS judges in this thread so far (even so, I won't let my expectations get out of hand, we've still got a long way to go after all).

If Trump argues (and proves) fraud that won't apply. Fraudulent actions like manipulation and fake ballots are a usurpation of the the electorate's will so appointing electors is back on the menu

Right, I was assuming that the current official counts hold or is relatively unchanged so you would have Biden electors from "the voters" and any Trump electors would have to come from the legislatures. Then the Court would be very reluctant to be seen as "overturning" the voters.

If the fraud is found to be blatant and clearly exposed by the time of deciding that would be quite a different situation.

 

[HumanHive]

STOP TRYING TO MAKE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT ELECT HAPPEN, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

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I’d honestly go to the Supreme Court to just get them to say that this “office” doesn’t fucking exist.

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

STOP TRYING TO MAKE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT ELECT HAPPEN, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

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I am not taking your fucking vaccine, you insufferable faggots, and if you try to make me, I will resist you with deadly force. I don't want it, I don't trust it, and I most certainly don't trust you to not act like faggots and put God-knows-what in it.