So, they did to Jazz exactly what Money did to those two babies, he used them as lab rat for their own gain and tried to push something rather than figure out if it was working or not.
Jazzs mum wanted a girl, didn't she?It was mentioned a while back in this thread-- basically in practice, it means counselors/psychiatrists are encouraged not to push too hard, or from too many angles. There are still some who will but very, very gently. Must be incredibly frustrating when you can see the same patterns happening over and over.
It's probably higher than 41% specifically for desistors, but it's certainly not lower for TRAs. There's a lot of things you lose when you're a trans kid, to realize it might've all been for nothing is horrible.
These links are beyond awesome, thank you! I had no idea how blatant the pedo shit was. Pharmaceutical companies making bank off hormone injections are definitely part of the equation, but queer theory is holy text type shit. Gonna take me forever to think this through.
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Seriously feel ill reading that, I've heard parts of it verbatim. This entire study should be required reading for parents of kids in these situations. None of these statistics surprise me at all:
- Additionally, per parent report, almost half of the AYAs withdrew from family, 28.5% refused to speak to a parent, and 6.8% tried to run away.
- 84.2% of the parent respondents were reasonably sure or positive that their child had misrepresented or omitted parts of their history.
- The declines were substantial as 43.3% of these AYAs had been identified as academically gifted students...before they began to fail their classes, drop out of high school or college, and became unable to hold a job.
- (they damn kids in so many ways. Ever notice the 'lol queers are so bad at math/science!!' or the fucking constant illiteracy/dumbass/himbo jokes? It's almost like unchecked depression/mental health is horrible for the brain...)
- 71.6% reported that the clinician did not explore issues of mental health, previous trauma, or any alternative causes of gender dysphoria before proceeding and 70.0% report that the clinician did not request any medical records before proceeding.
- 23.8% of the parents who knew the content of their child’s visit reported that the child was offered prescriptions for puberty blockers and/or cross-sex hormones at the first visit.
- (seen this with adults, but usually it was at least a few visits for actual children...)
- Although small numbers of AYAs had improvement in mental well-being (12.6%), parent-child relationship (7.4%), grades/academic performance (6.4%), and had broadened their interests and hobbies (5.1%); the most common outcomes were worsened mental well-being (47.2%); worsened parent child relationship (57.3%); unchanged or mixed grades/academic performance (59.1%); and a narrowed range of interests and hobbies (58.1%).
- (Definitely seems like it's worth it to transition children! Who wouldn't with odds like those? /sneed)
Really interested in the peer contagion in eating disorder clinics they mentioned. It's a great comparison, and many trans people also have eating disorders. Lots of little girls with insecurities or body dysmorphia are dx'd with gender dysphoria, and a fair amount of those kids later developed an ED-- this was what happened to me. Feeling like you're fat in a skinny body is not treated by becoming fat, but if you feel like you want your bits axed... more power to you, apparently.
"The phenomenon of natal females expressing a post-puberty rapid onset of gender dysphoria" stood out too. The transition from a sexless childhood to being a sexualized young woman can be terrible, especially if you're unattractive or fat. Tends to be straight/bi girls rather than misunderstood lesbians doing this.
I really appreciate the support. Desisting does suck, but it's by far the better option. A lot of folks who come out the other side are wiser, resilient people. There's still a conversation (things are way more critical in the UK) but overall, Rabidcolombian is spot on: if people do disagree with it, they're too scared to say so. A lot of them think that consuming an opposing piece of evidence is controversial all by itself. I'm not in the best position to speak up but going to forward some of these links to people who are already starting to!
Forgot to mention in my last post: It's extremely common for trans people to have a late/absent/deadbeat same-sex parent. Jeanette is awful, she's the reason things played out the way they did, but I can't help but wonder if Jazz just wanted to be more like the parent (maybe even sibling) that actually paid attention to him. It's hard to get a good read on the dad tho.
But Jazz's mom already had a daughter. Maybe she wanted another girl, but I suspect it was more than just maternal sex preference that inspired her to buy Jazz a one-way ticket on the Trans Train. My guess is that Jeannette wanted a Very Special Child tied to a Very Important Cause who would guarantee her lots of attention and asspats. If Jazz hadn't been into dresses and dolls and Disney princesses as a little boy, the idea would never have occurred to her and she would have found some other, probably less destructive way to signal her progressiveness for fame and profit.
If only Jazz could have been born a few years later. Then he could have just been a Drag Kid.
I see what's happening here. Jeanette's thinking must have been in the lines of "The others left me, this time I won't let that happen. I'm going to fuck this one up so bad he will never grow up."
Saddest of takes. I don't think this was her intention from the get to but it must be a nice perk. Especially because she seems to like her family close. If Jazz never wakes up from the spell what will happen when Jeannette dies? Are the twins gonna make sure she's dilates every night?
You underestimate Jeanette's narcissism. No one feeds her own son hormones, mutilates him and exposes this shitshow to the world like its something to be proud of if they don't feel this way.
That will be when the spell breaks and the circus begins to fall apart. Jazz is going to have some very rough times ahead.
How
of you to assume Jaron will outlive Jeanette.
That promo shot sure is a . . . choice. Poor Jazz just isn't photogenic, and it becomes ever more apparent as he matures. He's not going to be able to cash in on his D-list celebrity status for much longer. In fact, he's well on his way to becoming an embarrassment to the trans cause: all the drugs and surgeries that were supposed to turn him into a pretty, pretty princess have instead left him an eating-disordered eunuch.
woah that shit's deepHow
Reminds of of that old Zen story:
A rich man asked a Zen master to write something down that could encourage the prosperity of his family for years to come. It would be something that the family could cherish for generations. On a large piece of paper, the master wrote, "Father dies, son dies, grandson dies."
The rich man became angry when he saw the master's work. "I asked you to write something down that could bring happiness and prosperity to my family. Why do you give me something depressing like this?"
"If your son should die before you," the master answered, "this would bring unbearable grief to your family. If your grandson should die before your son, this also would bring great sorrow. If your family, generation after generation, disappears in the order I have described, it will be the natural course of life. This is true happiness and prosperity."
He's a binge-eater who uses fast food to (metaphorically) fill the hole his mother helped put in him.
Someone else said it's because of her narcissism and she can't let Jazz be "prettier" than she is by having a nose that doesn't touch his top lip.
lmao Jazz is still prettier regardless, Jeanette looks like a hag or the Wicked Witch of the West, either one.
