2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Actually, that's another bizarre number to add to the pile. For reference before I get into it: America has 3,141 counties in total.

The President who won the fewest counties during their election anywhere in U.S. history--within reason because I'm not digging back to when we had like 15 counties and random-ass political parties like the Whigs and the Know-Nothings --was Barack Obama, in 2012. He won the popular vote by about 5 million and took the Electoral College by about 62 votes, but he only won 689 counties in the U.S. (~30% of the total) The lowest number in the history of this country for a victorious party.

The map broken down by county doesn't look too off the mark from what people have come to expect if you're using to seeing the country broken down by county, but you'll notice something: Obama managed to pull in support from a scattershot of random places, it wasn't just isolated to the cities.

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Now here's the odd part: Obama doesn't hold the record, anymore. In the 2020 election, as it currently stands, Joe Biden has only won 477 counties, (15% of the total) which is 212 fewer than Obama in his 2012 election, and yet he's garnered 9 million more votes than Obama's 2012 run. Likewise, Republicans didn't suffer any serious losses, and they've thus far taken 12 more seats for themselves in the run-offs and re-counts.

Joe Biden and the Democrats got absolutely stomped in every conceivable metric that I can find; they picked up no new seats in the Senate, no new seats in the house, they set the new record for the fewest counties won by a "victorious" party by more than 200 counties fewer than the previous record-holder, and yet... Somehow I'm supposed to believe that Biden swept the floor with more votes than any other Presidential candidate in the history of this entire country.

This just doesn't make any fucking sense no matter what angle I swing from.
 
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Biden is a neocon on foreign policy and favors disastrous left wing nonsense on the economy and social issues. We have a real shot at Herbert Hoover 2.0 right here.
We’re already going into new lockdowns, and are being told to not even leave to visit families for holidays. I hear New Mexico is shutting down their schools too, with Michigan and Chicago.
 
I’m not going to say not to respond to him because I probably have the least self control of any member here, but I think he’s just trolling right now.
Nah, he's said similar stupid stuff in the Community Watch The Elder Scrolls thread if I recall.

AnOminous just has some pretty bad TDS and refuses to engage with anything that shows he is being an idiot about it.
 
Glitch-ass riggas?
This post deserves a lot more love tbqh.
Biden is a neocon on foreign policy and favors disastrous left wing nonsense on the economy and social issues. We have a real shot at Herbert Hoover 2.0 right here.
What "left-wing" nonsense on the economy tho? He's a bigger corporate shill than most Republicans could ever dream of. Sure, he'll say gay shit on social media about fags and blacks, and I doubt it will be much worse than the "500 billion dollar man" Donald Trump.

The one aspect of Joe Biden that will be drastically different than Don's is his foreign policy, which will be many times worse.

If you unironically think you're approaching communism or - god forbid - social democracy in America you should sterilize yourself.
 
I said "approval rating" which pretty strongly implies there was such a thing. Routine tracking of such things via periodic polls is a relatively new thing, dating back to about FDR. So obviously before there was such a thing as an "approval rating" we can't attach a number to it. And if you cherry pick for shit like YouGov that routinely has Trump's approval rating something like 10 points above any normal poll, of course you'll get dumb results like this. Anyone who thinks this asshole has some through the roof approval rating is absolutely delusional.

I have to ask you this. As someone who is clearly not Trumps biggest fan do you think this presidential election was mostly fraud free, I'll define fraud free as <2.5% of the votes cast in each state and every state?

The thing that bugs me a lot is the total number of votes cast this election. Would anybody have predicted that the total number of votes for president would exceed 150m or even 145m? Don't these numbers seem spectacularly high and as others have pointed out his approval rating was around the mid 40's at the time of the election. Is TDS and TES really that strong?
 
Except Georgia, holy shit
I would be extra careful, those who doesnt comply are the first to jump ships, shenanigans between the party are expected in any government, but traitors are the worst that can happen to one, they will backstab everyone if they see they have a way out

Somehow I'm supposed to believe that Biden swept the floor with more votes than any other Presidential candidate in the history of this entire country.
The guy that was curb stomped in the second debate, barely campaigned, and wanted to nuke one of the main sources of energy on the USA managed to do that, let that sink in
 
I am convinced anyone who says Trump 2024 is a traitor. I will give Styx a pass since he is living outside the country and said he only will go by what Trump tweets.

If Trump concedes, the chance of electoral reform is dead. With Trump there is a chance but with Biden, the new potential AG Doug Jones will drop everything and go after Trump supporters or Kyle 2.0 or some shit to fuck with Republicans or non woke white people in general. He will be banned from social media for sure and Pelosi is already stated plans to investigate Trump even if he leaves.

The GOP will squander whatever new coalition Trump has given them since most of them are idiots who could never figure out themselves how to build coalitions. And Trump will be rigged out of a win in 2024 and also he won't have the advantage of the presidency's tools like Air Force One and being able to have more power than state governors.

Its basically SCOTUS or the nuclear option of state legislatures now if Trump wants to save America and his family business as well.
What if I say Trump 2024 for Trump's third term? :thinking:
 
Actually, that's another bizarre number to add to the pile. For reference before I get into it: America has 3,141 counties in total.

The President who won the fewest counties during their election anywhere in U.S. history was Barack Obama, in 2012. He won the popular vote by about 5 million and took the Electoral College by about 62 votes, but he only won 689 counties in the U.S. (~30% of the total) The lowest number in the history of this country for a victorious party. The map broken down by county doesn't look too off the mark from what people have come to expect if you're using to seeing the country broken down by county, but you'll notice something: Obama managed to pull in support from a scattershot of random places, it wasn't just isolated to the cities.

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Now here's the odd part: Obama doesn't hold the record, anymore. In the 2020 election, as it currently stands, Joe Biden has only won 477 counties, (15% of the total) which is 212 fewer than Obama in his 2012 election, and yet he's garnered 9 million more votes than Obama's 2012 run. Likewise, Republicans didn't suffer any serious losses, and they've thus far taken 12 more seats for themselves in the run-offs and re-counts.

Joe Biden and the Democrats got absolutely stomped in every conceivable metric that I can find; they picked up no new seats in the Senate, no new seats in the house, they set the new record for the fewest counties won by a "victorious" party by more than 200 counties fewer than the previous record-holder, and yet... Somehow I'm supposed to believe that Biden swept the floor with more votes than any other Presidential candidate in the history of this entire country.

This just doesn't make any fucking sense no matter what angle I swing from.
Has urbanisation greatly increased in the past 8 years? It could be that people who favour the Dems are self-selecting into a handful of blue counties and vice-versa. My guess is that a bunch of high school graduates in decaying, opioid ravaged towns go to college, make urbanite friends, follow them on social media, and get fed a constant highlight reel of all the fun shit you can do in a big city thereby. So the kind of people who are most likely to vote blue end up moving to cities in droves, making the cities bluer and the towns redder.
 
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You have case history to back this up? I know he hates Trump (as evidenced by his 'There are no such thing as Bush judges or Obama judges or Trump judges' comment) but didn't he vote for his travel ban?

He's tossed a few crumbs when really he had no choice

The court hasnt heard a major gun case in 6 or 8 years, forget if it was 2012 or 2014, while the 2nd amendment has been getting shit on. Roberts is why he doesnt want to hear them

He saved DACA with technicality bullshit

Has totally cucked out to these unconstitutional restrictions for the last 8 months that have ruined tens of millions of lives

Stood aside when multiple abortion laws were struck down by lower federal courts

Sided with religious freedom in the cake guy case on a weaselly reason that left the door open for future coercion of people's consciences so long the State does it the right way

Muh gheys murrying which is whatever but like abortion it's left to the states not the Supreme Court or anyone else. He dissented and let it be and has taken zero interest in the explosion of legal degeneracy that has followed. Muh deference

He's marginally better than Souter was at best
 
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Actually, that's another bizarre number to add to the pile. For reference before I get into it: America has 3,141 counties in total.

The President who won the fewest counties during their election anywhere in U.S. history was Barack Obama, in 2012. He won the popular vote by about 5 million and took the Electoral College by about 62 votes, but he only won 689 counties in the U.S. (~30% of the total) The lowest number in the history of this country for a victorious party. The map broken down by county doesn't look too off the mark from what people have come to expect if you're using to seeing the country broken down by county, but you'll notice something: Obama managed to pull in support from a scattershot of random places, it wasn't just isolated to the cities.

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Now here's the odd part: Obama doesn't hold the record, anymore. In the 2020 election, as it currently stands, Joe Biden has only won 477 counties, (15% of the total) which is 212 fewer than Obama in his 2012 election, and yet he's garnered 9 million more votes than Obama's 2012 run. Likewise, Republicans didn't suffer any serious losses, and they've thus far taken 12 more seats for themselves in the run-offs and re-counts.

Joe Biden and the Democrats got absolutely stomped in every conceivable metric that I can find; they picked up no new seats in the Senate, no new seats in the house, they set the new record for the fewest counties won by a "victorious" party by more than 200 counties fewer than the previous record-holder, and yet... Somehow I'm supposed to believe that Biden swept the floor with more votes than any other Presidential candidate in the history of this entire country.

This just doesn't make any fucking sense no matter what angle I swing from.
I can believe a ton of people voted for Biden out of sheer hate for Trump or just because they were told too, even enough to make the outcome very close. But after all the crap that’s come out of this, it’s clear to me Trump won, and they were so shocked their Blue Wave didn’t work that they sperged out and half assed their fraud.
 
I said "approval rating" which pretty strongly implies there was such a thing. Routine tracking of such things via periodic polls is a relatively new thing, dating back to about FDR. So obviously before there was such a thing as an "approval rating" we can't attach a number to it. And if you cherry pick for shit like YouGov that routinely has Trump's approval rating something like 10 points above any normal poll, of course you'll get dumb results like this. Anyone who thinks this asshole has some through the roof approval rating is absolutely delusional.
YouGov isn't fucking Rassmussen, which is very much partisan right-leaning (just like other polls are very much left-leaning). It's actually fairly balanced and accurate an was the same even when it predicted Obama's reelection campaign. Same thing with RCB polling aggregates. You just want to deny the very obvious truth that Trump had average approval compared to most presidents. He wasn't extremely popular like Reagan or Eisenhower were, but he wasn't nearly universally hated like Carter or GWB (in his 2nd term) were as well.
 
Trump should absolutely fight the results of the election. I know there was bullshit involved and most people being honest with themselves knows there was bullshit.

I don't think it'll change the results. The same system that fucked Trump is one that I have doubt will all of a sudden work in his favor. But still, its nice to have SOMEBODY fighting for integrity in this election.
 
The guy that was curb stomped in the second debate, barely campaigned, and wanted to nuke one of the main sources of energy on the USA managed to do that, let that sink in
Mail-in voting, especially early mail-in voting, should be banned as a matter of course outside of disability or being overseas serving in the military (EDIT: or similar kind of posting, such as diplomat). There is no reasonable excuse other than those for not getting up and going to the polls.
 
And if you cherry pick for shit like YouGov that routinely has Trump's approval rating something like 10 points above any normal poll, of course you'll get dumb results like this.
The aggregate of polls has Trump in the 40-50% approval range. The only poll I've ever seen with him lower than that are Gallup's poll that had him at 38%, which was an outlier and clearly meant to set the stage for the narrative that he lost because he is unpopular.
Anyone who thinks this asshole has some through the roof approval rating is absolutely delusional.
Nobody said his approval ratings were through the roof. Merely suggested that half the country approve/he's not as unpopular as the media want you to think
Epstein's pedokike buddy isn't the kind of person you'd want on your side, though...
On the contrary, someone who helped Epstein evade justice for years is exactly the kind of person I'd want on my side.

Everyone thought Johnnie Cochran was a bastard but they didn't deny he was a damn good attorney.
 
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