Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

[Just A Butt]

same as every other americamutt.

But we have established that you probably aren’t American. So what bullshit is this?

 

[Omsko1029]

race is a social construct. 100% true. DNA is a spectrum. but race emerges when you cluster people. Same as dogs.

ethnicities = dog breeds (golden, lab., etc.)
races = dog types (spitz, retreiver, etc.)

... No... race doesn't "emerge" like a mathematical golden spiral- it's a method of understanding contrived by looking at roughly superficial elements of populations that have been isolated for certain periods of time.

DNA is a biological reality, race is a way of grouping "peoples" together that was virtually impossible to disprove in the ancient age.

"Grog white skin, LaGrondo Black skin. We different. Duh."

I'm not telling you that certain groups with common genetic characteristics don't exist, just that it's way more nuanced than you seem to think.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Sadly we only got the handle of Boxershorts47 on twitter when you google his name.

I'm well aware of that. I was wondering if someone could get his IP address, or something.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

AOC laws were way lower or even non-existent at one point. I am happy with them being the age they are now, but this whole "don't cite wikipedia cus school said no" take is fucking retarded. Wikipedia has its sources listed, the reason academic institutions say don't cite it isnt cus its a bad source for basic info and history, but because its not authoritative and just an aggregation of sources anyway. In a fucking internet debate you can just double check the source wikipedia lists.

I'm really not OKAY with AOC where it is right now. Telling women that they are off limits till 18 conditions them to have casual sex in HS and they don't break that norm till after university. It also leads to misandry feminism because women notice men being sexual attracted to them during mid teen years and they are told those men are "disgusting pigs." At a very min, it needs to be lowered to 14 (f), high school freshman. Ideally AOC would be set on an individual basis given a person's maturity.

 

[Omsko1029]

I'm really not OKAY with AOC where it is right now. Telling women that they are off limits till 18 conditions them to have casual sex in HS and they don't break that norm till after university. It also leads to misandry feminism because women notice men being sexual attracted to them during mid teen years and they are told those men are "disgusting pigs." At a very min, it needs to be lowered to 14 (f), high school freshman. Ideally AOC would be set on an individual basis given a person's maturity.

For people potentially going through post histories for future lulz, can you describe the process with which you would judge a minor's maturity?

 

[Purin Chan]

AOC laws were way lower or even non-existent at one point. I am happy with them being the age they are now, but this whole "don't cite wikipedia cus school said no" take is fucking retarded. Wikipedia has its sources listed, the reason academic institutions say don't cite it isnt cus its a bad source for basic info and history, but because its not authoritative and just an aggregation of sources anyway. In a fucking internet debate you can just double check the source wikipedia lists.

He's arguing for things (albeit poorly) for massive revisions in AOC laws and the way we see sexual maturity in women. Although this is a dumb internet debate, I would at least expect, in those circumstances, the other party use something a tad more then an article anyone can edit, no?

 

[BoxerShorts47]

AOC laws were way lower or even non-existent at one point. I am happy with them being the age they are now, but this whole "don't cite wikipedia cus school said no" take is fucking retarded. Wikipedia has its sources listed, the reason academic institutions say don't cite it isnt cus its a bad source for basic info and history, but because its not authoritative and just an aggregation of sources anyway. In a fucking internet debate you can just double check the source wikipedia lists.

He's arguing for things (albeit poorly) for massive revisions in AOC laws and the way we see sexual maturity in women. Although this is a dumb internet debate, I would at least expect, in those circumstances, the other party use something a tad more then an article anyone can edit, no?

Has everyone here seen Benjamin Boyce's channel? He is a center-left liberal aka a transphobe, terf-adjacant.

Listen to this women's story at the 5min mark.

https://youtu.be/4DOUcpFxKKw?t=300

For this women, AOC at even 10 would have been much better.
Society would tell her, "you're an adult. men want to have sex with you. Find yourself a husband."
Instead she is being told, "men are prevents. They are sexually harassing you."
Notice how she says 10 and then 12, and that she "looks" 16.
So those men are not prevents or pedophilias, they are hitting on her because she looks mature.

So once you start doing anti-feminism and MGTOW research, you'll see these examples occur regularly.
Even if you don't the research, you'll see stories late teens or 20 yr old "pedophilies" and then when you dig deeper, you find out that these are women in their teen years, not single digits.
or college age students having sex with high school age students "Omg dude she told me she was 18."
It's clear that AOC is inaccurate and even the Romeo and Juliet laws are a loophole to weaken AOC.

 

[Lonely Grave]

He's arguing for things (albeit poorly) for massive revisions in AOC laws and the way we see sexual maturity in women. Although this is a dumb internet debate, I would at least expect, in those circumstances, the other party use something a tad more then an article anyone can edit, no?

His inability to do so and his persistent use of fatuous correlations has convinced me my efforts have been fruitless. He ignores or misconstrues everything, makes incorrect conclusions against the common grain in a vain effort to appear in "superior intellect", but as others have proven he's nothing more than a deluded Mexican nobody. At least we in the sane world have the self-awareness to laugh.

 

[Stardust]

I'm really not OKAY with AOC where it is right now. Telling women that they are off limits till 18 conditions them to have casual sex in HS and they don't break that norm till after university. It also leads to misandry feminism because women notice men being sexual attracted to them during mid teen years and they are told those men are "disgusting pigs." At a very min, it needs to be lowered to 14 (f), high school freshman. Ideally AOC would be set on an individual basis given a person's maturity.

They're off limits to 30 year old NEETS, like you. Removing the age of consent won't stop casual sex, it would probably increase it due to 'more options' being available.

Again, a 14 year old would be right about you being a disgusting pig. You are sexually attracted to her, you 30 year old swine spic. Maybe less women would go all feminazi, if you weren't trying to impose relational slavery.

 

[Omsko1029]

Has everyone here seen Benjamin Boyce's channel? He is a center-left liberal aka a transphobe, terf-adjacant.

Listen to this women's story at the 5min mark.

https://youtu.be/4DOUcpFxKKw?t=300

For this women, AOC at even 10 would have been much better.
Society would tell her, "you're an adult. men want to have sex with you. Find yourself a husband."
Instead she is being told, "men are prevents. They are sexually harassing you."
Notice how she says 10 and then 12, and that she "looks" 16.
So those men are not prevents or pedophilias, they are hitting on her because she looks mature.

So once you start doing anti-feminism and MGTOW research, you'll see these examples occur regularly.
Even if you don't the research, you'll see stories late teens or 20 yr old "pedophilies" and then when you dig deeper, you find out that these are women in their teen years, not single digits.
or college age students having sex with high school age students "Omg dude she told me she was 18."
It's clear that AOC is inaccurate and even the Romeo and Juliet laws are a loophole to weaken AOC.

So, assume you're Emperor of the West for one day. What would you do?

 

[BoxerShorts47]

They're off limits to 30 year old NEETS, like you. Removing the age of consent won't stop casual sex, it would probably increase it due to 'more options' being available.

I don't think it will. I think it'll do the opposite. We will tell women at age 10 or 12 or 14 to find a husband rather than netflix and chill.

Again, a 14 year old would be right about you being a disgusting pig. You are sexually attracted to her, you 30 year old swine spic. Maybe less women would go all feminazi, if you weren't trying to impose relational slavery.

different women hit the wall at different ages.
there is a reason teen models are widely used.

I'm not saying that I want to only attract 14 yr olds.
I've never said.
But I do think AOC should be lower.

So, assume you're Emperor of the West for one day. What would you do?

start with deporting non-whites back to their home nations.
abolish k-12 education
remove civil rights (minority rule).
put white liberals into fema death camps.
lower AOC.

Stardust did a decent job summing up my beliefs.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/debate...lor-moon-and-more.70469/page-404#post-7741256

 

[Omsko1029]

start with deporting non-whites back to their home nations.
abolish k-12 education
remove civil rights (minority rule).
put white liberals into fema death camps.
lower AOC.

Stardust did a decent job summing up my beliefs.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/debate...lor-moon-and-more.70469/page-404#post-7741256

Boy oh boy. I better let you get back to alienating the people around you because you think you're moving the Overton window.

I think your ideas are better suited to a game of Stellaris, or maybe an extensively modded version of the Sims. With grandiose ideas like yours I don't know why you thought we could possibly hone your blade of intellect. You're ready for the Dragons Den pedro. I'm going to bed.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

Boy oh boy. I better let you get back to alienating the people around you because you think you're moving the Overton window.

I think your ideas are better suited to a game of Stellaris, or maybe an extensively modded version of the Sims. With grandiose ideas like yours I don't know why you thought we could possibly hone your blade of intellect. You're ready for the Dragons Den pedro. I'm going to bed.

Welcome to the 21st century. I'm not just moving the overton window, I'll shatter it. Go on Twitter. Every day more and more normie cons are fedposting.

 

[Stardust]

I don't think it will. I think it'll do the opposite. We will tell women at age 10 or 12 or 14 to find a husband rather than netflix and chill.

It works both ways. Older men have less of an obstacle to deal with, and parents can do little to intervene. You brush this off as no big deal, saying it won't be taken advantage of. This shows either you as naive, thirsty, or both.

start with deporting non-whites back to their home nations.
abolish k-12 education
remove civil rights (minority rule).
put white liberals into fema death camps.
lower AOC.

You're non-white. How are you going to enforce the rest from Mexico or Israel, or the several nations your blood contains? Better yet, why does 80% of your goals cuck you? Why do you sperg so hard to create a society you benefit very little from, and would deport or genocide you? Besides autism, that is.

 

[Omsko1029]

Your pitch, m'lord

 

[Stardust]

Your pitch, m'lord

Great meme, but that last part is incorrect. Boxy is Jewish, there is a price.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

It works both ways. Older men have less of an obstacle to deal with, and parents can do little to intervene. You brush this off as no big deal, saying it won't be taken advantage of. This shows either you as naive, thirsty, or both.

parents can always intervene. and the idea that if we lower age of consent, 14 yr olds will run away to have sex with 41 yr olds,,, non-sense. In practice it just means more marriage age relationships between women in their teens and men in the their late teens or early (maybe mid) 20s. I guarantee you that if you look back, some of your ancestors had this age gap too.

You're non-white. How are you going to enforce the rest from Mexico or Israel, or the several nations your blood contains? Better yet, why does 80% of your goals cuck you? Why do you sperg so hard to create a society you benefit very little from, and would deport or genocide you? Besides autism, that is.

Technically Jewish Ashkenazi aren't FROM Israel. Israel was created post Jewish diaspora and Ashkenazi Jews are really Aryans/Iranians who entered Europe through the Silk Road.
If I was to deport myself, I wouldn't go to Israel. I would go to Ukraine or Russia.
I fully well might deport myself. if White Americans refuse to deport the non-whites and enact hetero-normative values, I'll leave.
I don't want to become a minority in this nation and live under feminism, transgenderism and homosexuality.
America is over. The 2 visions are SJW or WN.
If SJWs win, I'm gone.
But I think most whites will choose WN once they are forced to think about these issues.
But they will not spend 100s of hours watching e-celebs, they need to manifest to on-board them fast.

 

[Taco]

So this is what pedophile LOLcow threads would be like if the person in question responded. Truly amazing.

I assume OP is some permavirgin who assumes if the age of consent was lowered and girls were told to find husbands at 10 that someone would pick him. He's probably not wrong, kids are dumb as shit and easily manipulated at those ages which are why age of consent laws exist in the first place. Otherwise you'd have legions of creepy perverts trying to lean on highschool freshman girls for pussy by getting them whatever stupid shit their parents won't buy them.

Luckily sane people realise anyone proposing lowering the age of consent of sex with full grown adults to anything below 16 minimum is not concerned with what's in the best interest of anyone involved but rather that the only thing keeping them from plowing an 8th grader is the threat of decades in prison and they'd very much like that legal barrier removed. So thankfully for women and children everywhere this will never happen in the Western world. Holy shit can you imagine the power dynamic between some 30 year old man driving a 14 year old around on a date? Truly disturbing, and yes that would definitely happen, don't be naive it happens now. If it were legal it would happen way way more often.

 

[Chicken Picnic]

People under the age of consent fuck all the time, we all know this. But they fuck each other, not fuck people three times their age.

Tell me Boxy, why do you want to fuck someone so young? What about someone your own age is so off putting? I can honestly say even when I was 18 I never looked at another person who was 12 or even 14/15 and thought I wanted some of that, let alone now I'm older.

I'm a teacher, that would be like fucking a student. The thought actually disgusts me. So please enlighten me on why you want to fuck someone so young, and don't just say "because puberty" because someone who's 25 or so has still gone through puberty but you won't fuck them.

If puberty is the guide, then why not lower AOC to 8 or 9? That age isn't uncommon for girls to start bleeding. 12 is a pretty random number tbh.

 

[Fromtheblackdepths]

parents can always intervene. and the idea that if we lower age of consent, 14 yr olds will run away to have sex with 41 yr olds,,, non-sense. In practice it just means more marriage age relationships between women in their teens and men in the their late teens or early (maybe mid) 20s. I guarantee you that if you look back, some of your ancestors had this age gap too.


Technically Jewish Ashkenazi aren't FROM Israel. Israel was created post Jewish diaspora and Ashkenazi Jews are really Aryans/Iranians who entered Europe through the Silk Road.
If I was to deport myself, I wouldn't go to Israel. I would go to Ukraine or Russia.
I fully well might deport myself. if White Americans refuse to deport the non-whites and enact hetero-normative values, I'll leave.
I don't want to become a minority in this nation and live under feminism, transgenderism and homosexuality.
America is over. The 2 visions are SJW or WN.
If SJWs win, I'm gone.
But I think most whites will choose WN once they are forced to think about these issues.
But they will not spend 100s of hours watching e-celebs, they need to manifest to on-board them fast.

Well go right ahead dude. See you in Russia.