Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

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Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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“The media” didn’t “declare” anyone the victor.
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AP declared the Biden the victor[..]
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inb4 "out of context"
The media seeing the numbers and saying/declaring "Biden has the most votes/is in the lead/is likely to be the next president" is not the same as "Biden is the president-elect/Biden is president so we can be relieved".
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Since google is being a bitch sidney powells twitter has something out lining dominion and Venezuela but since its just a few pages i dont know who wrote it or why. any of you guys got the sauce?

Edit NM I got bing to help me out.
 
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Are you serious?

That's not how colonoscopies work

Unholy hell, you really are serious. Null was trying to pretend things were more neutral or common-spread between Dem voters and Rep voters, but people like you, regardless of who you really voted for, just prove him wrong. Either you're this bent in the head or you're a paid shill, and I'm not nearly drunk and mentally unstable enough to think the latter.

Dominion voting problem. Multiple system "glitches". Multiple verifiable instances and even recorded footage of ballot counters blocking up windows to prevent overseers from looking at them inside--in numerous states apparently. Problems with auditors. Problems with the graphs. Problems with hundreds of dead names (not in the tranny way) being cast specifically for Biden. The entirety of the mainstream media & tech oligarchs, especially Google, Twitter & FaceBook, collectively trying to force the narrative of Biden's victory, to the point of spreading disinfo even regarding the fictional office of the "president elect"--who, might I add, is already publicly announcing who he's electing to government positions, a good number of them being direct from Silicon Valley!

Video evidence, system "glitches", sworn affidavits, statistical/graph evidence and the clear test of measuring a thing's potential truth by how much people are trying to shut it down (like now with the fraud issue, they also did with the Biden hard drive which proved Joe Biden himself, through his son, was making geopolitical moves on China's payroll--but I guess if mass media and tech says it's not true then it isn't true, is it lemming?).

INB4 "but muh courts say it's false"
1. Not all courts
2. Show the context
3. Waco
What's Waco got to do with this you ask? Well, underage, it's relevant because it was the first time in American history the government (most likely by Clinton's direction), sicced policemen, SWAT and then the FBI (with a tank and more) to genocide American citizens on American soil, and they got away with it for so long because mainstream media kept calling the victims (including pregnant women and children) "terrorists, armed militants" etc. while recording their compound being destroyed live on national television.


As for the courts? Not a one ruled in favor against the government, not really. As I recall, they still haven't despite them only just last year, decades after this, putting out some Netflix movie rewriting history to say it was all an oopsie that went too far because the FBI was confused.

Everyone is telling you not to believe what your eyes are looking at. It's right in front of your face, but because some courts and all of MSM and tech are saying it's a lie, you believe it. You will reject red as red and believe red is orange if they tell you it is.
Think for yourself and look up the supposed "false" evidences for yourself. Get real.
You doing okay?
 
What is striking to me in this situation that you have a Trump lawyer (Sidney Powell) saying things that are pretty shocking, and the mainstream media completely ignore it.

I will say it again: she is not a random Q-tard conspiracy nobody. She is a TRUMP's lawyer and she has a stellar career in law. If the mainstream media were interested in doing what they are supposed to do, delivering news, instead of deciding for you and me what you should think about, they would blast her statements day and night all over the media. But they don't. They don't even do it mockingly, as they are past the stage of thinking that correct spin can undo the damage of the news being out. (reportedly Twitter made it even hard to look for her tweets)

Then you are in a situation that only "less reputable" media are talking about it, and obviously they try to survive by a lot of clickbait and telling you what do you want to hear.

I really think that although journalism as a profession was always highly questionable as far as their morals, they never went as far as denying voice to the still sitting President and his legal team.

Think whatever you want about Trump, but this fact is completely undeniable: they present him as a lonely maniac, who is bent on staying in the office no matter what, but he has a lot of people behind him, and they are not all rando maniacs. For starters look up biography of Mike Pompeo, it might open your eyes a bit.

And before all the hats will start coming: I am not emotionally vested in this election, as I said many times I see many holes in the current narrative, however, the media reaction is an additional proof that some major fraud is going on.
Powell has claimed:

- That she has an affidavit from someone who was working at the start up of Dominion who has sworn that there is code embedded in the software that allows for direct manipulation of the vote count.

- That she has other testimony that state election officials were bribed to use the system.

- That the CIA are entrenched in the company and used their resources to directly intervene in the election


I believe her I also believe that the CIA manipulates other nation's elections to sell their color revolutions and assorted other fuckery.
However if this is all she has then unfortunately it isn't enough.
It should be enough (assuming she has the proof) to trigger a full audit of ballots in all states that Dominion was used.
But in current year, with this President, and with the (((media))) we have it's not happening.
If the Republican party had gone all in to fight the steal, then maybe, but the GOP establishment want Trump gone.
The only reason there's even the slightest push back from them is because the Dems got greedy with the Georgia Senatorial races and some of them are smart enough to realize that there's no way they can run in 2024 without the Trump base.
But sending out the odd tweet in support of Trump is not the same as using the full resources of the national Republican Party, including pressuring every GOP elected official, to stand against this bullshit.
There's no establishment pressure to investigate these issues, not even from the right.

Which is a shame as democratic elections will become less and less trusted if this is allowed to stand.
If it becomes perceived that democracy is a sham then even the most rusted on Biden supporter should understand where that's going to lead.
 
"How's the election thread going these days, has it been fully infected by idiots?"
People said "There's no vested interest in putting left-leaning politics in videogames! That's crazy!"
People said "There's no evidence that some silly spirals means "pedophile" or that some little random pizza joint has an odd fixation with children and has connections to politicians! That's crazy!"
People said "There's no evidence that BLM is affiliated financially with the DNC! That's crazy!"
People said "There's no evidence to suggest anything bad or society altering about 5G or that China is helming 5G for geopolitical ends! That's crazy!"
People said "There's no evidence Covid-19 was man made in China! That's crazy!"
People said "There's no evidence Biden as VP was ever involved in political action as favors for foreign powers for financial compensation! That's crazy!"
Ah, yes. Good old kiwifarms politics. Never change.
 
What is striking to me in this situation that you have a Trump lawyer (Sidney Powell) saying things that are pretty shocking, and the mainstream media completely ignore it.
She can make all the claims she wants to the media. I'll believe it when a case is filed and she says it in a court room where her status with the bar association is on the line if she lies to the Judge. I'm one of the people that think some fuckery has occurred, normally this wouldn't be much of an issue since most elections are a landslide one way or another. To steal a phrase from the lawyer Robert Barnes, "the elections landed within the margin of fraud;" so now we DO have an interest in the inner workings of how the elections are handled and the normal hustle of hundreds of thousands of poll workers are being scrutinized heavily and coming up short. Any endeavor of this size will have sharp edges as the stupid, insane, or malicious bump into each other, so I'm usually forgiving of most of the conduct of the people involved. I think the American election system and mass mail in voting are just incompatible, as a resident of the Philly region I don't feel the city would have turned out in such margins for Biden if it entailed voting normally. Most ballots had already been cast before the debates, before the Hunter Biden laptops, and most damningly before the Philly riots that ended up with the city being looted a week before the election. This kind of stuff would have given a major knock to the campaign and likely scuttled it. Instead Biden managed to float over it without issue since the vote was already cast months earlier.
 
Same as in a normal Presidential Election year. All 50 states and the District of Columbia have their own rules which include when they certify. Delaware are almost always first as they don't allow absentee ballots to come in late, North Carolina allow absentee ballots to come in for 10 days post election as long as they are dated on Election Day or earlier. Out of the battleground states this time Georgia is first due to certify on Friday so the Trump legal team ought to get moving to file something solid.
That isn't my point. My point is that I would not expect all the final lawsuits to be filed until states certify. Up until then there is nothing concrete to sue over.
 
just imagine as a crazy crazy thought maybe the majority of US citizens was actually not for Trump and the other one got more votes and won the election.

Maybe some people kept waiting for Mexico to build the wall and got tired of empty promises. Maybe when Trump didn't go to a war cemetery because of the rain some people liked him less. Maybe some people didn't like that taxpayers' money was used to rent rooms in Trump's resorts when he went golfing. Maybe, just maybe, some people thought that being besties with Putin, the North Korean one and the Islamist ruler of Turkey and the Islamist ruler of Saudi Arabia is not a good idea.

And maybe some people didn't want to have a president that suggests Clorox injections or shining light into the lungs.
 
Still no burned cities though, so, not as much of a salt harvest as it would have been if the other geriatric had lost.
When the right is pushed to violence you see events like Oklahoma City. Its probably why the FBI actively tries to break up militias, the Oklahoma incident was a conspiracy involving 3 people, imagine the damage 300+ folks with that mindset would do.
 
And yet if Trump managed to pull this off somehow and retains the presidency for another four years you--specifically you--will be talking about how he had a conspiracy to steal the election. If that happens then quote my post right here and call me a ninny if you don't do that. Prove me wrong.
You and everyone like you who see what's right in front of your face but continue to roll your eyes in the back of your head so you don't have to see it. There's a word for that.

In the first place, if a national conspiracy (literally "two or more people conspire together to commit an act") is "QAnon tier lunacy" then what do you call the obvious mass collusion of mainstream media and tech oligarchs (Google, Twitter, Face Book especially) to force the idea of Biden's victory (even touting the "Associated Press" as having "called" the election for Biden, as if the AP matters at all in an election, and supporting the fictional "office of the president elect" while Biden's campaign openly starts listing people he wants to elect to major government positions, specifically certain people from Silicon Valley).

Second, there's entire threads even on this site dedicated to collecting evidence of the massive voter fraud that's visible to your own eyes in the initial graphs, and we've got delightful super-autists analyzing that data like madmen. Not good enough? Fine, then let's talk about the Dominion system,
the multiple "glitches" which switched votes by the thousands seemingly from Trump to Biden,
the seemingly endless influx of ballots written by fake/dead names,
the investigation into back-dated ballots,
the shadiness of the incestuous nature of the DNC with the press,
how there are literally pro-Biden organization(s) harassing lawyers for Trump into dropping out (look it up),
all that sketchy business regarding the Global Business Coalition's (founder George Soros) involvement of Scytl software in elections and Smartmatic which is worth looking into, especially when Dominion's official website lists this:

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But you don't look into anything. You don't research anything. You barely even think for yourself. We both begin this subject from opposing viewpoints, yes, and so we will view evidences and connections differently when we have our own vested interest in certain outcomes yet you don't do anything--and I mean actual research not reposting a news article from Newsweek or Snopes and saying "Done!".
You just sit back as others do all the work and don't even look into it for yourself. You're not even like that math autist Kiwi who spent a fat post detailing why some claim about Benford's Law or whatever didn't prove Biden stole anything. That post was great.

All you do is parrot the same hand-waving sentiment that's been used time and again to cleanse the brain of all challenging information:
People said "There's no vested interest in putting left-leaning politics in videogames! That's crazy!"
People said "There's no evidence that some silly spirals means "pedophile" or that some little random pizza joint has an odd fixation with children and has connections to politicians! That's crazy!"
People said "There's no evidence that BLM is affiliated financially with the DNC! That's crazy!"
People said "There's no evidence to suggest anything bad or society altering about 5G or that China is helming 5G for geopolitical ends! That's crazy!"
People said "There's no evidence Covid-19 was man made in China! That's crazy!"
People said "There's no evidence Biden as VP was ever involved in political action as favors for foreign powers for financial compensation! That's crazy!"
And if Biden himself said tomorrow that they stole the election you'd not believe it and just chalk it up to him "joking" or being senile.

You react and speak as if you're trained to certain stimuli when you just leap to claims of "no evidence" and "this is crazy".
You react like you are demoralized:
Right right and you blindly swallow what ever is thrown in front of you if it fits with your world view.

Because this is what this is about "my team" or better "my elected world view" and as some one who have asked for evidence and looked into claims. I have yet to see any thing else then a bunch of hersay and wishful thinking.

In an argument a claim given with no proof can be dismissed with out.

Your evidence is boomer Facebook 5G levels of garbage and blind faith if it fits your world view.
 
just imagine as a crazy crazy thought maybe the majority of US citizens was actually not for Trump and the other one got more votes and won the election.

Maybe some people kept waiting for Mexico to build the wall and got tired of empty promises. Maybe when Trump didn't go to a war cemetery because of the rain some people liked him less. Maybe some people didn't like that taxpayers' money was used to rent rooms in Trump's resorts when he went golfing. Maybe, just maybe, some people thought that being besties with Putin, the North Korean one and the Islamist ruler of Turkey and the Islamist ruler of Saudi Arabia is not a good idea.

And maybe some people didn't want to have a president that suggests Clorox injections or shining light into the lungs.
Maybe. Quick question, though - do you have a job or regularly interact with people making less than say $75,000/year? Because I guarantee you the working poor and lower middle class don't give a shit about Trump being besties with the king of the Saudis.
 
Maybe. Quick question, though - do you have a job or regularly interact with people making less than say $75,000/year? Because I guarantee you the working poor and lower middle class don't give a shit about Trump being besties with the king of the Saudis.
I am sure that some working poor and lower middle class might not care that Trump is besties with Islamic leaders such as that one who had his opponent dismembered and with Putin but many might have cared and might have been put off from voting for Trump. Imho many just thought there is nobody to vote for, we are screwed whoever wins.
 
The depressing reality is that choosing between Biden and Trump is like choosing between getting a tooth pulled or a toe nail ripped off. Both are gonna hurt but long term you'd probably keep the tooth. Biden sucks but Trump let down enough of his voters (no wall, no infrastructure, no manufacturing boon, stupid tariffs and farmer bailouts and huge national debt) to tip the scales.

I just fucking hope we can get some god damn stimulus passed. America is withering on the vine, especially mom and pop places.
 
The depressing reality is that choosing between Biden and Trump is like choosing between getting a tooth pulled or a toe nail ripped off. Both are gonna hurt but long term you'd probably keep the tooth. Biden sucks but Trump let down enough of his voters (no wall, no infrastructure, no manufacturing boon, stupid tariffs and farmer bailouts and huge national debt) to tip the scales.

I just fucking hope we can get some god damn stimulus passed. America is withering on the vine, especially mom and pop places.
That's the point, they are going to let entrepreneurship die so that way there will be a full encroachment of big corp.
 
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