2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Joe Biden is probably not going to be in charge. The democrats are now an oligarchy with Nancy having more power than cucks Schumer and Kamala and Biden. Nancy said that she will investigate Trump after election.
Isn't that going to be some "investigate Russia" thing where they just chase a mythical creature just because they hate Trump THAT MUCH?
It's mind blowing, we have people in this country gloating that their guy got in despite the obvious banana republic fraud happening.
Because they got the orange man out and now they just have to run out the clock and box him out long enough to get Biden/Harris in. That's all there is to it.
Catching up on everything.

It blows my mind that that was their defense for all of this shit. 30-40 years ago, no court would have dismissed anything after hearing something like that.

The PA Courts dismissing this isn't a surprising thing in the slightest. It's just proving the inevitable: That this is going to the SCOTUS, and it always was going to go to the SCOTUS. The biggest problem right now, though, is that the clock is definitely ticking.

If they go to SCOTUS with this they're going to get killed. Clarence Thomas ain't having that shit. Even Roberts might have to rule against them
Don't underestimate the two Obama apointees. They seem to be the type of justices the "pack the court" critics warn about. And even then, what's to say the SCOTUS ruling won't do enough to give Trump the win...or ends up not giving either candidate the needed 270? But yeah, the clock is ticking, and there's a good chance that since SCOTUS is very selective, it'll get even more fuckier.
What's really funny is that highly suspect 24 hour old account that posted the Trump election fraud hotline had me google it, because I thought it would be some 1900 phone sex number or something. (Do they still have those? god I'm old)

Instead, thousands of smug redditors and imgurs posting that phone number everywhere they can with instructions not (wink wink nudge nudge smug smug) to prank call it.

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Now, I'm not saying I'm looking forward to the boogaloo. But I will be breaking out the bubbly when these fuckers start their mental breakdowns if Trump wins, or when they finally fuck around enough and find out with the right in America.
That's what Antifa did to spoil the Arizona affidavits by making the information in them completely unreliable. Well...that avenue is fucked. Fun while it lasted, but looks like another L. People really seem to be blind to how the Internet works.
And the defense's argument is literally "Fraud doesn't harm any one ergo you can't sue about it." Which as others have mentioned won't fly in front of the SCOTUS.
Well, the other arguments are "voter supression" and "every vote needs to be counted". Which could really appeal to the Obama apointees and all the other justices who aren't hardliners like Thomas. We'll truly feel RBG dying if Trump can pull this out of his ass.
Suburb of Atlanta.
If they are stupid enough to bring this argument in front of SCOTUS then... well, I'd actually predict both Roberts AND Breyer peeling away from the liberal justices. Its THAT awful. Its almost TAILORED to make Breyer balk -hard-.

So we now know why the left has been kinda silent about all this shit.

They don't have a defense. They can't defend this. Their arguments are pants on head retarded.

This bodes well if it gets up to the SCOTUS.
That or they're trying to appeal to the Obama apointees who seem to be the types to do activism from the bench? And then you have to wonder if the SCOTUS will issue a ruling other than "nuke everything". I mean, what options of a ruling are there? ANd when it comes to removing Trump, we're dealing with people that dedicated to try LITERALLY ANYTHING to get him out so they can start chasing him to throw him in jail and seize his assets.
It's closer to authoritarian country kangaroo court.
So an extension of the Title IX college things where due process is ignored because people want funding that'll only come from convictions because they wanna give the impressions of "we take this seriously!" ? How much you wanna bet we're going to get a new age of shut ins that live either alone or with their parents in the name of avoiding a criminal record? And what are the odds we hear more about MGTOW again?
 
That or they're trying to appeal to the Obama apointees who seem to be the types to do activism from the bench? And then you have to wonder if the SCOTUS will issue a ruling other than "nuke everything". I mean, what options of a ruling are there? ANd when it comes to removing Trump, we're dealing with people that dedicated to try LITERALLY ANYTHING to get him out so they can start chasing him to throw him in jail and seize his assets.

Can you please stop saying things this stupid. Actually stop and use the brain God gave you. What the FUCK would be the point of arguing towards the two justices who will ALREADY SIDE WITH YOU?

That is just idiotic and on its face absolute retardation to say.

They NEED to convince one of the five properly conservative justices to peel off while preventing Roberts or Breyer getting cold feet.

I think politically they also need to be able to make a case that the election result was skewed because of illegal ballots, fraud, etc.
This is why the Michigan thing is potentially big. It provides ample reasoning and cover to go under. Hell, if it stands the legislature can actually say they are going by the popular vote... the official, certified popular vote.
 
I’m actually curious what your opinions are about all this. I seem to remember having a conversation back during Gamergate with you about your family having worked in Dem campaigns in the past, and how the actual operatives had a fair bit of disdain for the antics of the sjws and the like. If you still have people in the know, what’s your opinion on what’s been going on. Is the a previous graft that they’ve extended because they feel they can, the lunatics gaining control from people that retired or just fucked off, them trying to reassert control of something they’d so far taken for granted, or something else? Sorry if I’m thinking of someone else.
Well, sure, I can get into my own extremely unscientific thoughts on it, but I don't know how useful it will be.
If you want it, follow me under the spoiler tag.

Like the right, the left in the USA has always had a multitude of subfactions with different belief structures, goals, and ideals. These range from the oldschool Liberals to Jackson Progressives, to the Southern Dems, down through your Libertarians, Greens, and so on down to the dregs in the Anarchist and Socialist camps.

The DNC having a massive disconnect between its constituents and higher-ups is nothing new. At this point the party has almost forty consecutive years of running on extremely popular platforms, but then barely pushing them at all when they get the chance. Sometimes, like the ACA (for a more recent example), their inability to push forward policy is absolutely a good thing, Other times, like when they flat-out run on things like repealing Don't Ask, Don't Tell, or the Patriot Act, get in, and then do fuck all about it, leaving it for Bush or Trump to knock the fuck over for the easiest win in history, speaks infinitely louder.

What has changed over the years is how they choose to conduct themselves, and equally importantly, which subfaction of the Dems was in charge of the Clown Car that was the DNC when it was puttering along. When the oldschool Northern Dems or Southern Dems were in charge, you tended to actually get good policy from them for a change and actually good legislation worked on with the other side, which is exactly why the DNC fought tooth and claw to prevent those from gaining a foothold in any way, shape, or form. The DNC wanted the Uniparty status quo, and make no mistake of that.

Different subfactions would gain and lose power in the Democratic Party over the years, and get to control the steering wheel of the Clown Car, but the people dictating where the car was actually going never changed. However, the powers that be had their preferences, and none were as obvious as the Blue Dog Caucus, self-proclaimed centrists who basically were Neocons in every way but social issues and would basically do everything the Neocons wanted and then some before whining about how if only they had more power, they could have prevented it, as if we were, collectively, supposed to ignore shit like most of the fuckers voting to invade Iraq or for the Patriot Act in the fucking first place. The establishment could not suck the dicks of these assholes hard enough, because they could claim to be left on Social issues and then turn right around and vote lockstep with the Neocons on shit. Nobody likes a fucking triangulator.

While all this was going on, the Dem establishment never missed a chance to fuck up any effort to fix this paradigm. Any candidate that looked to be riding a populist swell or looked like they'd actually fucking do anything would get nuked from orbit. Vermont finally has enough of living embodiment of everything wrong with politics Joe Lieberman and successfully Primaries his ass out of office? Well, too bad, fuckers, he's gonna run as an Independent with the DNC funneling hundreds of millions into his campaign coffers while actively forcing their ground game to not back Ned Lamont, all that to stop a relatively unimportant seat from being taken by an actual populist. That uppity little shit Anthony Weiner's agitating against the revolving door of Congress again, and this time he's caucusing with Republicans on a bill that would force congressmen to disclose when they had a conflict-of-interest with the beneficiary of a bill? We can't have that. Better make a sex scandal materialize from nowhere and quietly feed it to the press on the Right at juuuuuust at the right time to completely fuck his career. A major presidential candidate is riding an actual populist swell back in 2000? Fucking cut his mic during a press event to turn him into a meme, pay off the press to actively deny him coverage afterwards to stall his momentum, buy off the other contenders, and award the most status-quo candidate you have the nomination, even though he's as Charismatic as a box of rocks. As acting DNC chair, the same dude you just fucked out of the Nomination employs an actual strategy that actually wins over moderate Republicans? We can't have that shit, what do you think this is, a Republic?! Oust him from his position and replace him with a shithead who insists we only need to run ads or campaign in stronghold states, so the only Dems that can get into a position of power are the ones so thoroughly on the take that there is zero chance of them ever doing anything but the most status-quo shit imaginable. Actual candidates worth a damn are running in 2004? Tamp down that and run human speedbump John Kerry. Fucking magic.

Neither of the very public two times Bernie got cornholed by the establishment were anything new, is what I'm getting at here.

However, like I said earlier, what breed of Clown gets their hands on the steering wheel periodically changes up a bit over time. See, when I was active in the DNC, the Progressives weren't as crazy and the Socialists weren't as powerful, internally, in the Democratic Party as they are now. In general they were seen, at best, as useful idiots, and at worst, dangerous elements that needed to be reined in. Members of them in positions of actual power were virtually unheard of at the time, because the Dem establishment wanted Blue Dog-style Dems. The problem is that behind the scenes, a lot of the big guns in the staffer departments were getting old. They were retiring, leaving the DNC in disgust, and outright dying. This caused an enormous power vaccuum within the mid-level staff in the DNC, and who filled these positions were mostly these old politicians' understudies - who were, predominantly, much less experienced and - much harder left.

In 2008, the Progressives gained control of the steering wheel, and it was expected that Hillary would bulldoze her competition at the time. Unfortunately for her, Hillary got curb-stomped. Very early on, her incredibly bad popularity caught up to her, and it became mathematically impossible for her to win the nomination, and Obama clinched it. The establishment didn't care; Obeme was still their guy. The thing is, in her anger, Hillary refused to concede, and her supporters, including a number of major staffers, went full fifth column, threatening to Broker the Convention unless Hillary was the declared the nominee, even though she could not win at that point. I remember it well because several of my family members were die-hard for Hillary and flat-out could not accept that any other Dem could win. If you were on Democratic websites at the time, you got to see some truly inspired shit, as enraged Hillary supporters fired off Anti-Obama screeds that wouldn't have gone amiss on Stormfront. Ya boi @AnOminous can confirm it for you. What started with temper-tantrums grew quickly to the point where they were talking about primarying establishment candidates and actively crippling the Obama campaign, and in one of the worst moves ever made, the DNC chose a veritable Devil's Bargain to appease them, by having Obama throw her a bone with a cabinet position. This was a fucking terrible decision.

Anyone familiar with how modern hard-lefties operate in online spaces will tell you that the second one of them gets into a sufficiently high-level position of authority, unless they are somehow stopped, they will, over time, take over any available positions within an infrastructure. This is exactly what happened to the DNC, and soon almost every mid-level staffer in the DNC was one of these asshats. Again, the guys directing where the Clown Car was ultimately going were still in place, but the fringe had effectively ejected all the other Clowns from the vehicle. This meant, among other things, that their machinations had to get a lot more overt. With them having dominant positions in the DNC, they were actually able to dictate policy, and this led to the major gains the hard left made during the Obama administration. Naturally the Clown Car crashed firmly into a ditch in 2016, and, with the hard left gaining even more power in the mainstream apparatuses of the left since, it's only gotten more blatant.

They learned basically nothing from the experience, except for the fact that they were willing to fuck every single one of us to get their way in 2020, and what this ultimately broken attempt to rig an election may comprise their most blatant act to date. They would rther destroy everything than sacrifice even a single crumb of power for themselves, a level of hubris most of us can't even imagine.
 
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Fifth reminder: Trump is the man who lost a twitter shitposting fight, so he bombed a man's balls off.
Trump has a well documented, well known vindictive streak a mile wide and ten long. He's a man who dedicated an entire CHAPTER of one of his books to how you MUST get revenge on those who wrong you, and to make that revenge as painful and agonizing as you can to ensure NOBODY ever does it a second time.
On Trump's last day of office, he has NASA send a message to Hostile Martians living underground of which the US and other nations currently have a secret peace treaty. "Biden said he's going to send nukes to Mars and glass your ass into the Asteroid Belt."
 
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Can you please stop saying things this stupid. Actually stop and use the brain god gave you. What the FUCK would be the point of arguing towards the two justices who will ALREADY SIDE WITH YOU.

That is just idiotic and on its face absolute retardation to say.

They NEED to convince one of the five properly conservative justices to peel off while preventing Roberts or Breyer getting cold feat.
My mistake. If anything, those two appointees can easily make an argument towards the coin flips like Roberts.

Michigan State legislature is GOP leaning isn't it?

Michigan state House has 58 Republicans, 52 Democrats
Michigan state Senate has 22 Republicans, 16 Democrats

enough to send red electors?

I think if PA and WI end up with massive disputes the whole house of cards will come down. Republican state legislatures will either refuse to certify and you'll get a contingent election or they'll certify a Republican slate of electors and you'll get Trump re-elected.

Conversely, if they certify then Biden will get it.
The question is, are they GOP people on the Trump train? If anything, they've been pressured enough to support him at least in public to give a façade.
 
My mistake. If anything, those two appointees can easily make an argument towards the coin flips like Roberts.
This is a better point. But no, even Breyer dislikes Kagan and Sotomayor. While the justices never slag eachother off, you can tell how they feel about eachother by how much they reference eachother's opinions in their decisions.

Kagan and Sotomayor have never been referenced by any other judges. Not even Breyer or Ginsburg.
 
Well, sure, I can get into my own extremely unscientific thoughts on it, but I don't know how useful it will be.
If you want it, follow me under the spoiler tag.

Like the right, the left in the USA has always had a multitude of subfactions with different belief structures, goals, and ideals. These range from the oldschool Liberals to Jackson Progressives, to the Southern Dems, down through your Libertarians, Greens, and so on down to the dregs in the Anarchist and Socialist camps.

The DNC having a massive disconnect between its constituents and higher-ups is nothing new. At this point the party has almost forty consecutive years of running on extremely popular platforms, but then barely pushing them at all when they get the chance. Sometimes, like the ACA (for a more recent example), their inability to push forward policy is absolutely a good thing, Other times, like when they flat-out run on things like repealing Don't Ask, Don't Tell, or the Patriot Act, get in, and then do fuck all about it, leaving it for Bush or Trump to knock the fuck over for the easiest win in history, speaks infinitely louder.

What has changed over the years is how they choose to conduct themselves, and equally importantly, which subfaction of the Dems was in charge of the Clown Car that was the DNC when it was puttering along. When the oldschool Northern Dems or Southern Dems were in charge, you tended to actually get good policy from them for a change and actually good legislation worked on with the other side, which is exactly why the DNC fought tooth and claw to prevent those from gaining a foothold in any way, shape, or form. The DNC wanted the Uniparty status quo, and make no mistake of that.

Different subfactions would gain and lose power in the Democratic Party over the years, and get to control the steering wheel of the Clown Car, but the people dictating where the car was actually going never changed. However, the powers that be had their preferences, and none were as obvious as the Blue Dog Caucus, self-proclaimed centrists who basically were Neocons in every way but social issues and would basically do everything the Neocons wanted and then some before whining about how if only they had more power, they could have prevented it, as if we were, collectively, supposed to ignore shit like most of the fuckers voting to invade Iraq or for the Patriot Act in the fucking first place. The establishment could not suck the dicks of these assholes hard enough, because they could claim to be left on Social issues and then turn right around and vote lockstep with the Neocons on shit. Nobody likes a fucking triangulator.

While all this was going on, the Dem establishment never missed a chance to fuck up any effort to fix this paradigm. Any candidate that looked to be riding a populist swell or looked like they'd actually fucking do anything would get nuked from orbit. Vermont finally has enough of living embodiment of everything wrong with politics Joe Lieberman and successfully Primaries his ass out of office? Well, too bad, fuckers, he's gonna run as an Independent with the DNC funneling hundreds of millions into his campaign coffers while actively forcing their ground game to not back Ned Lamont, all that to stop a relatively unimportant seat from being taken by an actual populist. That uppity little shit Anthony Weiner's agitating against the revolving door of Congress again, and this time he's caucusing with Republicans on a bill that would force congressmen to disclose when they had a conflict-of-interest with the beneficiary of a bill? We can't have that. Better make a sex scandal materialize from nowhere and quietly feed it to the press on the Right at juuuuuust at the right time to completely fuck his career. A major presidential candidate is riding an actual populist swell back in 2000? Fucking cut his mic during a press event to turn him into a meme, pay off the press to actively deny him coverage afterwards to stall his momentum, buy off the other contenders, and award the most status-quo candidate you have the nomination, even though he's as Charismatic as a box of rocks. As acting DNC chair, the same dude you just fucked out of the Nomination employs an actual strategy that actually wins over moderate Republicans? We can't have that shit, what do you think this is, a Republic?! Oust him from his position and replace him with a shithead who insists we only need to run ads or campaign in stronghold states, so the only Dems that can get into a position of power are the ones so thoroughly on the take that there is zero chance of them ever doing anything but the most status-quo shit imaginable. Actual candidates worth a damn are running in 2004? Tamp down that and run human speedbump John Kerry. Fucking magic.

Neither of the very public two times Bernie got cornholed by the establishment were anything new, is what I'm getting at here.

However, like I said earlier, what breed of Clown gets their hands on the steering wheel periodically changes up a bit over time. See, when I was active in the DNC, the Progressives weren't as crazy and the Socialists weren't as powerful, internally, in the Democratic Party as they are now. In general they were seen, at best, as useful idiots, and at worst, dangerous elements that needed to be reined in. Members of them in positions of actual power were virtually unheard of at the time, because the Dem establishment wanted Blue Dog-style Dems. The problem is that behind the scenes, a lot of the big guns in the staffer departments were getting old. They were retiring, leaving the DNC in disgust, and outright dying. This caused an enormous power vaccuum within the mid-level staff in the DNC, and who filled these positions were mostly these old politicians' understudies - who were, predominantly, much less experienced and - much harder left.

In 2008, the Progressives gained control of the steering wheel, and it was expected that Hillary would bulldoze her competition at the time. Unfortunately for her, Hillary got curb-stomped. Very early on, her incredibly bad popularity caught up to her, and it became mathematically impossible for her to win the nomination, and Obama clinched it. The establishment didn't care; Obeme was still their guy. The thing is, in her anger, Hillary refused to concede, and her supporters, including a number of major staffers, went full fifth column, threatening to Broker the Convention unless Hillary was the declared the nominee, even though she could not win at that point. I remember it well because several of my family members were die-hard for Hillary and flat-out could not accept that any other Dem could win. If you were on Democratic websites at the time, you got to see some truly inspired shit, as enraged Hillary supporters fired off Anti-Obama screeds that wouldn't have gone amiss on Stormfront. Ya boi @AnOminous can confirm it for you. What started with temper-tantrums grew quickly to the point where they were talking about primarying establishment candidates and actively crippling the Obama campaign, and in one of the worst moves ever made, the DNC chose a veritable Devil's Bargain to appease them, by having Obama throw her a bone with a cabinet position. This was a fucking terrible decision.

Anyone familiar with how modern hard-lefties operate in online spaces will tell you that the second one of them gets into a sufficiently high-level position of authority, unless they are somehow stopped, they will, over time, take over any available positions within an infrastructure. This is exactly what happened to the DNC, and soon almost every mid-level staffer in the DNC was one of these asshats. Again, the guys directing where the Clown Car was ultimately going were still in place, but the fringe had effectively ejected all the other Clowns from the vehicle. This meant, among other things, that their machinations had to get a lot more overt. With them having dominant positions in the DNC, they were actually able to dictate policy, and this led to the major gains the hard left made during the Obama administration. Naturally the Clown Car crashed firmly into a ditch in 2016, and, with the hard left gaining even more power in the mainstream apparatuses of the left since, it's only gotten more blatant.

They learned basically nothing from the experience, except for the fact that they were willing to fuck every single one of us to get their way in 2020, and what this ultimately broken attempt to rig an election may cost be the single most blatant act to date. Looking at how far they've gone, their fear of populism within the left itself makes perfect sense: they would sooner destroy everything than sacrifice even a single crumb of power for themselves, a level of hubris most of us can't even imagine.
SO basically, the road taken is utopia or bust. With all the violence and Cultural Revolution shit that comes with it. And this summer was just a taste.
 
Can you feel it?

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