Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Yes, additionally GIDS clinics in the UK won't start hormones until you have spoken to whatever NHS department that freezes them has been spoken to.

Problem is, if you never have a natural puberty (due to blocking it with GnRHa drugs from tanner stage 2) there aren’t any usable gametes TO store.

And what are you going to do with a defrosted egg if your uterus is in a hospital pedal bin already? Even if you can afford a third world surrogate you have to transport the frozen gametes, in ideal surrogacy situations egg retrieval and IVF happens at the same clinic as embryo transfer. Maybe you’ll be lucky and a friend or sibling will be your incubator, but why should someone else risk their health because you willingly gave up your own fertility to troon?

And if an MtF wants to use a surrogate, they need to have had the foresight to do all the right pre-tests, because sperm saved with the intent of being used with a future partner isn’t subject to the same regs as surrogacy sperm. I suppose you might find a woman stupid enough to marry a post troon out AGP, but if a straight woman is looking for relationship that is likely to lead to kids, a troon is surely at the bottom of the list? Plenty of men out there who can knock you up without the expense and indignity of a Dr with a clinical turkey baster. Women need to take huge amounts of head and body fucking hormones before attempting motherhood with Mx Frosty because defrosted sperm is a bit rubbish compared to fresh, fuck knows what it will be like after 10 or 15 years in a deep freeze. Best be prepared for a baby with the ‘tism

The troons go on about storing gametes all the time, but no one really talks about what’s actually going to happen WITH those gametes.

(Surrogacy is shitty anyway, IMO, hiring women’s wombs is prostitution only worse, because it makes babies into a purchasable product and robs them of knowing their own mother. In every other circumstance people bang on about how important breastfeeding is and how the post partum period is a 4th trimester and how babies are soothed by their mothers smell and heartbeat. Fuck, social services even try and keep crack whores and their babies together if support and supervision can be arranged, but if Elton John and his toy boy husband buy a designer baby, rainbow flags are hoisted on the hospital roof and all the best interest of the baby stuff is chucked straight out of the window)

Yes, and they always use NHS. Except for all the black market HRT and advice going around to start before your meeting so the just write the prescription.

I have a feeling many of them have inadvertently self sterilized which is not a bad thing.

Shit though the Tavi seems to have been, they do at least complete a multi session psychosocial evaluation before prescribing anything (blockers from tanner 2/3 - which can be as young as ten, according to evidence in Keira Bell’s judicial review and hormones officially from 16, although I think it will eventually come out that some kids have had them from 14-15).

Whereas Helen Webberley of GenderGP was prescribing testosterone (a steroid with controlled drug status) to 12 year old girls, despite having no relevant professional specialisms and prescribing after a single online evaluation. For all I know, still IS prescribing cross sex hormones to 12 year olds now, just registered from their Spanish holiday home. Those girls will almost definitely be sterile.
 
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Slightly unrelated, byt why do femboys always pass better than actual trannies? Even without titty skittles they look more feminine than the average tranny.
Because femboys aren't under the delusion that they're hot sexy women. They realize that they're men who happen to like being feminine, so therefore, they're more aware of what they need to hide, coverup, or do in order to look more convincing. Also, most femboys happen to be androgynous looking already, so therefore it makes it easier for them to look convincing. femboys also study actual women to learn how to be as convincing as possible, whereas troons get their ideas from other troons, or what they see in anime and porn. Also, most troons are obviously masculine men, which is impossible to hide, no matter what kind of surgeries you get.

Back in the days when there were strict guidelines on treating dysphoria, one of the criteria of being allowed HRT and surgeries was that you had to be able to pass convincingly as the opposite sex. Those who were deemed unable to pass were turned down for transitioning, because psychs figured it'd just make their dysphoria worse when people wouldn't recognize them as the sex they wanted to be seen as. Also, you used to have to have intense therapy and make an effort to live as the opposite sex before they'd hand over the titty skittles and chop off your dick, because they realized that these surgeries are permanent and long term effects of HRT were unknown, and there is no going back if you change your mind.

“Femboys” may not be under the delusion that they’re women, but they’re still absolutely fucking deranged in virtually every other way. If MTF trannies understood they were biological men and didn’t cock-chop but lived the same destructive lifestyle anyway, that wouldn’t be any better. Men are meant to live as men, not “femboys”, “traps”, or anything else.
 
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“Femboys” may not be under the delusion that they’re women, but they’re still absolutely fucking deranged in virtually every other way. If MTF trannies understood they were biological men and didn’t cock-chop but lived the same destructive lifestyle anyway, that wouldn’t be any better. Men are meant to live as men, not “femboys”, “traps”, or anything else.
What's wrong with being gender non-conforming?
 
What's wrong with being gender non-conforming?
What’s right with it? Once we threw out the defined roles and meanings of “man” and “woman”, all sorts of crazy shit happened, like the past 24 pages of this thread. Of course there will always be tomboys and sensitive guys, but they’re a far cry from femboys, drag queens, “enbies” and the like.
 
“Femboys” may not be under the delusion that they’re women, but they’re still absolutely fucking deranged in virtually every other way. If MTF trannies understood they were biological men and didn’t cock-chop but lived the same destructive lifestyle anyway, that wouldn’t be any better. Men are meant to live as men, not “femboys”, “traps”, or anything else.
Oh grow the fuck up. How are femboys not living as men? They know they're men, live as men, they just like to dress up pretty. Do you think butch women aren't living as women? What's next, men need to be the breadwinners and women need to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen?
 
What’s right with it? Once we threw out the defined roles and meanings of “man” and “woman”, all sorts of crazy shit happened, like the past 24 pages of this thread. Of course there will always be tomboys and sensitive guys, but they’re a far cry from femboys, drag queens, “enbies” and the like.
I should start predicting shit, more often.
 
What’s right with it? Once we threw out the defined roles and meanings of “man” and “woman”, all sorts of crazy shit happened, like the past 24 pages of this thread. Of course there will always be tomboys and sensitive guys, but they’re a far cry from femboys, drag queens, “enbies” and the like.
Femboys are just the male version of tomboys and drag queens are just performers.

Enbies are dumb because they consider gender identity to be more important than sex, though. It's the same kind of delusion we see with transpeople.
 
Oh grow the fuck up. How are femboys not living as men? They know they're men, live as men, they just like to dress up pretty. Do you think butch women aren't living as women? What's next, men need to be the breadwinners and women need to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen?
My bad, guess I forgot the part of masculinity where you prance around in tight dresses and show off your “boy pussy” to other perverts. Manhood doesn’t mean much these days but come on.
 
My bad, guess I forgot the part of masculinity where you prance around in tight dresses and show off your “boy pussy” to other perverts. Manhood doesn’t mean much these days but come on.
If they have a male body, they're men. Feminine men but men nonetheless.
 
If they have a male body, they're men. Feminine men but men nonetheless.
Exactly - they’re men, who don’t act like it. My point is they should be normal guys instead of living their bizarre quasi-tranny lifestyles.

Like trannies, they’ll get older, hit the wall where they can’t pass anymore, and regret dedicating those years to a fetish fantasy instead of a conventional male existence. Not quite as destructive as transgenderism but still no way for a man to be.
 
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My bad, guess I forgot the part of masculinity where you prance around in tight dresses and show off your “boy pussy”.
I think you are confusing femboys with troons and nonbinary retards. Either that, or you think any man who doesn't look like whatever your picture of a man is, are automatically faggots and failures of men because heaven forbid a man want to express himself that happens to not be to your rigid standards. I'm guessing you're old, extremely conservative, and homophobic to boot! Go fuck yourself faggot.
 
Exactly - they’re men, who don’t act like it. My point is they should be normal instead of living their bizarre quasi-tranny lifestyles.
But why? If they're not being obnoxious about it and keep the coomer stuff to the bedroom, who cares? Nobody makes a fuss about masculine women.
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I'm guessing you're old, extremely conservative, and homophobic to boot!
Oh the horror. (You got 2/3, not bad)
You think we care about how they live their lives?
Look at that “Catboy Kami” creature - would you want your son or brother to become like that? I’m thinking you might care then.

I don’t care if some little boy plays with a Barbie or a grown man is sensitive and likes musical theatre. That’s OK, harmless, who gives a shit. The behavior of lifestyle AGP fetishists like femboys is another thing entirely.
 
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Oh the horror. (You got 2/3, not bad)

Look at that “Catboy Kami” creature - would you want your son, brother, or any other close male relation to become like that? I’m thinking you might care then.

Ah, I see what you mean.

I think the problem is one that seems rampant in the gay male community: the propensity for men to think with their dicks and base their entire life around sex. It's not just a femboy problem, it's a coomer problem.
 
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Femboys don’t get cockchops do they?
Because this is cock chop thread.

remember lobster claws from a few pages back?

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Well, we have a healed photo! And it’s good news because it no longer looks like it’s leaking pus...

but bad news because it’s reverted to looking like THE BALL SACK IT IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE.

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Look at that “Catboy Kami” creature - would you want your son or brother to become like that? I’m thinking you might care then.

I don’t care if some little boy plays with a Barbie or a grown man is sensitive and likes musical theatre. That’s OK, harmless, who gives a shit. The behavior of lifestyle AGP fetishists like femboys is another thing entirely.
If my son turned out to be that way, I would have an conversation with him about where this stuff will lead to and refuse to pay for it, like certain parents would

And those pics looks like an STD, @ChaChaHeels:BlackOnes
 
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