2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Plaintiff asserts again that the harm is "preventing fraud". Says that the audit may turn up nothing, but it may turn up something.

(...I could come up with a better argument for harm in my sleep. Here, watch: the Arizona Republican Party is harmed in a hand-count audit by precinct not being ordered, since candidates that they fielded for election in certain elections are denied election wins under circumstances-- suspicious or not-- that are less likely to be detected in a voting center-centered audit versus a precinct-based audit, which is state law and is not contradicted by the SoS' guidelines. Defense argues that this has nothing to do with fine mathematics, I disagree and she can suck a big one for being pointlessly petty.)

Either the case is tougher in AZ or the AZ GOP is not sending their best. Both are likely true.
 
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Democrats and the RINOs really have just about succeeded in turning this nation into the world most successful banana republic.

Russia and China are about to become more aggressive if Biden is rigged in as they know the moral high ground is gone.

Also making it easier for those GOP state legislatures to not even certify the votes.
 
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MrJokerRager said:
Democrats and the RINOs really have just about succeeded in turning this nation into the world most successful banana republic.

Russia and China are about to become more aggressive if Biden is rigged in as they know the moral high ground is gone.

Also making it easier for those GOP state legislatures to not even certify the votes.
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Depends on the balls of the legislators and (slightly less important) whether substantial evidence of fraud or electoral misconduct can be found to be shoved in their faces.

...and our collective T levels have been dropping for decades.

It would be nice to be like @It's HK-47-- he understands that Trump wasn't supposed to happen, and he's just amused with the fact that it was able to happen at all. That said, I disagree with his theory that the fact that he'll just be Bush-Obama part 2 means it won't be anything worse than what we were familiar with prior to Trump.
 
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MrJokerRager said:
Democrats and the RINOs really have just about succeeded in turning this nation into the world most successful banana republic.

Russia and China are about to become more aggressive if Biden is rigged in as they know the moral high ground is gone.

Also making it easier for those GOP state legislatures to not even certify the votes.
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Zero Day Defense said:
Depends on the balls of the legislators and (slightly less important) whether substantial evidence of fraud or electoral misconduct can be found to be shoved in their faces.

...and our collective T levels have been dropping for decades.
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Looks like it's open season and lots more people than I thought are ready for the hunt. Honestly, the only way this can be solved is if every result in the contested state is just thrown out completely and the National Guard and Army does the work of conducting and observing and counting the new election, or whatever the closest action to that Trump can do.
 
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Looks like it's open season and lots more people than I thought are ready for the hunt. Honestly, the only way this can be solved is if every result in the contested state is just thrown out completely and the National Guard and Army does the work of conducting and observing and counting the new election, or whatever the closest action to that Trump can do.
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If we sold Baby Yoda dolls which poisoned their owners we'd solve a lot of problems in the long run.

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MrJokerRager said:
Democrats and the RINOs really have just about succeeded in turning this nation into the world most successful banana republic.

Russia and China are about to become more aggressive if Biden is rigged in as they know the moral high ground is gone.

Also making it easier for those GOP state legislatures to not even certify the votes.
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This- the US as a superpower still had the moral pretense of being an upholder of democratic values even if it routinely failed them in practice overseas. It was supposed to be an example of a more 'ideal' model of international governance.

This election will destroy that image- if the remaining democractic checks fail and if the Democrats get away with it, many autocrats will realize that the US can't even be trusted to uphold democracy in its own lands.

In that way, Xi has already won- he's made the US more like China, in itself a perverse inversion of how the liberal 'End of Time' order had hoped that the opening of China would have encouraged its democratization.
 
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Fact check: Evil is a point of view and Chancellor Palpatine's emergency powers were granted to him by the Galactic Senate.
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An evil space wizard managed to have a more legitimate electoral victory then we did.
I hate our timeline. At least Star Wars has tig biddy Twi'leks.
 
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Is the spec ops supposed to get antifa?
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Possibly.

If Trump really is playing 4D Chess like the memes say, then it's likely this is meant as a move to help make the Insurrection Act more effective should it have to be called. Especially when you combine it with the firings of Esper and the cybersecurity guy from DHS and Trump's plans of total troop withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan by January.

The top brass warhawks are neocons and neolibs, and this could be a way to get around them.

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I think Trump is organizing the pieces for counter-insurgency if he wins in the courts and gets a second term. Which seems prudent, to be honest. Whoever wins is going to face an insurgency.
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That's also likely and if this is meant to help with invoking Insurrection Act to defang Antifa/BLM before Biden can be officially sworn in then it can also be used for any counter-insurgency if Trump somehow does pull a win and a counter-insurgency develops.

If he's got his guys in charge of SpecOps and is purging neocon warhawks from the Pentagon and DHS while also bringing as many troops home as he can, then there's a good chance all of it's connected.
 
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Syaoran Li said:
Possibly.

If Trump really is playing 4D Chess like the memes say, then it's likely this is meant as a move to help make the Insurrection Act more effective should it have to be called. Especially when you combine it with the firings of Esper and the cybersecurity guy from DHS and Trump's plans of total troop withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan by January.

The top brass warhawks are neocons and neolibs, and this could be a way to get around them.



That's also likely and if this is meant to help with invoking Insurrection Act to defang Antifa/BLM before Biden can be officially sworn in then it can also be used for any counter-insurgency if Trump somehow does pull a win and a counter-insurgency develops.

If he's got his guys in charge of SpecOps and is purging neocon warhawks from the Pentagon and DHS while also bringing as many troops home as he can, then there's a good chance all of it's connected.
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Alternatively, he is breaking Biden's toys.

Biden would now need to be the one to do a suite of firings, get his command staff back in place, AND redeploy troops.


None of these look good, and re-cheating the election comes 2022 and 2024 would be a lot harder with the legislatures somehow uncucking in real time like they are.
 
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Gustav Schuchardt said:
Fact check: Evil is a point of view and Chancellor Palpatine's emergency powers were granted to him by the Galactic Senate.
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Then later he cucked the Senate by just being one in name only while he called all the shots and the senate just take the L and shut up because their feefees of losing relevance was to much
 
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