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I'm a little surprised that this wasn't completely expected of her.

As much as I love Calliope, I was always fairly certain Dice would be in support of someone like Artemis in the first place. English-speaking creatives on the internet these days tend to have that sort of underlying derangement about them that draws them to people like that.
She had a song about gender issues, so the writing was on the wall.
 
She had a song about gender issues, so the writing was on the wall.
See, I didn't even know that, but I also strongly suspected that she was all about that gender fluidity/indecision crap just based on the nuances to how she presents her personality.

It doesn't change my level of enthusiasm for her, but it is something I remain cognizant of. It would be far, far too easy for her to slip into the realm of lolcow antics if she chooses to do so.

Then again, the same could most likely be said for all of the EN gang as well now that I think about it. Thankfully, the others seem to have hit their stride by this point.
 
Newsflash, a vtuber that goes by the name Nijikawa Laki, after upd8's closed down, decided to graduate and retire the character. In doing so, she had a face reveal and it turns out she's a professional seiyuu that goes by the name Yuki Yagi, the seiyuu for Nekopara's Chocola

Hmm. I suppose the vtuber thing might be a good way for voice actors to make some dosh between gigs. Not a bad idea.
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artia's final message b4 leaving the server,mind you she said that she can keep her discord server
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WTF is with that aliasing? Are you using Windows 98?
Someone's been a busy bee while nobody was looking. 250 Vtubers, 750+ songs, 48 hours long, starting at Nov. 20th.
What exactly is this? Did someone just take a bunch of vtubers' music videos and edit them end-to-end? I don't recognize any of the characters, though, and…
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Is that a :pickle:?

Apparently Moona has started getting attacked by some fans claiming that she’s just leeching off Pekora. They’re mad the two are playing together so much.
"Fans."
 
Apparently Moona has started getting attacked by some fans claiming that she’s just leeching off Pekora. They’re mad the two are playing together so much.
Lots of people hated Moona now. See, people kind of hated her because she loved to provoke certain reaction only to do what me and friends called "simp farming" by playing victim and playing sympathy.
However, lots of people (me included) thought that she might have matured and learned when she played around with Pekora.
However, now that she did her usual tactics again, it turns out she is stil the same, just an edgy weebs

Edit: needless to say, her support in the indonesian market is at an all-time low. Lots of people (and I mean LOTS) are already joking about her graduation "soon"
 
Lots of people hated Moona now. See, people kind of hated her because she loved to provoke certain reaction only to do what me and friends called "simp farming" by playing victim and playing sympathy.
However, lots of people (me included) thought that she might have matured and learned when she played around with Pekora.
However, now that she did her usual tactics again, it turns out she is stil the same, just an edgy weebs

Edit: needless to say, her support in the indonesian market is at an all-time low. Lots of people (and I mean LOTS) are already joking about her graduation "soon"
I’ll have to take you word for it, because I haven’t seen anyone say anything about her graduating, jokes or not, and the only thing I know about her Twitter is that she shitposts.
 
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Apparently Moona has started getting attacked by some fans claiming that she’s just leeching off Pekora
Part of the course, PPTenshi also had the same problems and by that metric Iofi and the Risu are in the same boat

Lots of people hated Moona now. See, people kind of hated her because she loved to provoke certain reaction only to do what me and friends called "simp farming" by playing victim and playing sympathy.
However, lots of people (me included) thought that she might have matured and learned when she played around with Pekora.
However, now that she did her usual tactics again, it turns out she is stil the same, just an edgy weebs

Edit: needless to say, her support in the indonesian market is at an all-time low. Lots of people (and I mean LOTS) are already joking about her graduation "soon"
Weird i have not see anything about that, she is a edgelord somewhere but considering how fucking awful her fans get sometimes is a necessity
 
Then again, the same could most likely be said for all of the EN gang as well now that I think about it. Thankfully, the others seem to have hit their stride by this point.
For all her weebishness and extremely onlineness, Gura strikes me as having a very Middle American middle-class background that still comes out strongly, rather than being attuned to wokeness. She had no problem belting out an old Christmas song with extremely gender-specific wishes for toys from boys and girls. I don't think the woke brigade are too big on old-school male icons like Sinatra or Elvis, either, especially the latter. She even does her own vacuuming, even if she's usually lazy and just does the pathways she travels most. Even "Kiss Yo Homies" is more "lol gay" than "it's sapiens to be homo."
 
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Imagine giving attention to this low effort copycat, Calli is the worst.
Callie is doing a lot of things right, but also a lot of things wrong. She's giving too much attention to normie-tier shitrags like Trash Taste, and mingling too much into the embarrassing sect of indie EN Vtubers, namely Domo's rat-king. She's treading into dangerous territory and if she breaks the seal, so to speak, that could spell trouble for a lot of the other Holo girls as well, as they might get pressured to be dragged along for the hell-ride, which I don't want.

I know they want as much exposure as they can get, but I feel like Callie is going too far with 'spreading the love,' if that makes sense.
What exactly is this? Did someone just take a bunch of vtubers' music videos and edit them end-to-end? I don't recognize any of the characters, though,
Shame how many people don't follow our virtual diva and know what she's up to. This is the lineup for AZKi's two-day music fest, DON'T STOP THE MUSIC 2, she opened up submissions about three weeks ago and got an actual metric fuckload of other Vtubers onboard. I'm very excited, mostly because I don't know 90% of them; it will be a good way to expand some musical horizons when it comes to that genre of music. Also, yeah, I do think it's 48 straight hours of music, which is crazy.

Thing that's weird to me is more Holos didn't sign up. Honestly expected to see at least Suisei, Towa, and Kanata in there as well.

Lots of people hated Moona now. See, people kind of hated her because she loved to provoke certain reaction only to do what me and friends called "simp farming" by playing victim and playing sympathy.
However, lots of people (me included) thought that she might have matured and learned when she played around with Pekora.
However, now that she did her usual tactics again, it turns out she is stil the same, just an edgy weebs

Edit: needless to say, her support in the indonesian market is at an all-time low. Lots of people (and I mean LOTS) are already joking about her graduation "soon"

Sounds like they need to chill. Moona is fucking awesome, and I love her shitposting and tard-baiting. The ID girls are finally coming into their own and it's great. But I will agree with the fact that they might want to do some more actual ID streams, they've more or less become HoloEN Gen 0.5 (what with Coco and Haachama being Gen0)
 
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For all her weebishness and extremely onlineness, Gura strikes me as having a very Middle American middle-class background that still comes out strongly, rather than being attuned to wokeness. She had no problem belting out an old Christmas song with extremely gender-specific wishes for toys from boys and girls. I don't think the woke brigade are too big on old-school male icons like Sinatra or Elvis, either, especially the latter. She even does her own vacuuming, even if she's usually lazy and just does the pathways she travels most. Even "Kiss Yo Homies" is more "lol gay" than "it's sapiens to be homo."
She did a cover of PewDiePie's Bitch Lasagna and has 'sub 2 pewdiepie' in the description for it. I doubt she's basted and maroon pilled but I think she's safe from trooning out or sperging about identity politics.
 
She had no problem belting out an old Christmas song with extremely gender-specific wishes for toys from boys and girls. I don't think the woke brigade are too big on old-school male icons like Sinatra or Elvis, either, especially the latter
Gura is a weird case because she doesn't sing the things that most other holos does, i mean the biggest surprise that came from her debut was not that her tail was broken but she singing old ass city pop music, she also sing it another one in her membership streams, Big iron for example was a very requested song tha she practiced even when she has not played Fallout, the Girl from Ipanema came really out of nowhere, the only thing that i'm little disappointed is that she promised to sing Macross songs and has not delivered

The other city pop music was Stay with me by Miki Matsubara

 
the Girl from Ipanema came really out of nowhere
My read on that and a lot of the older songs she does is that she probably grew up listening to and singing along with songs her parents and possibly grandparents played. She seems to have a very broad familiarity with a bunch of popular but older singers.
 
For all her weebishness and extremely onlineness, Gura strikes me as having a very Middle American middle-class background that still comes out strongly, rather than being attuned to wokeness. She had no problem belting out an old Christmas song with extremely gender-specific wishes for toys from boys and girls. I don't think the woke brigade are too big on old-school male icons like Sinatra or Elvis, either, especially the latter. She even does her own vacuuming, even if she's usually lazy and just does the pathways she travels most. Even "Kiss Yo Homies" is more "lol gay" than "it's sapiens to be homo."

Gura in her Minecraft stream mentioned making a single McDonald’s visit last for several days, the same for watering down soup. Girl knows the poorfag life, that sorta shit isn’t something you make up for clout.


Callie is doing a lot of things right, but also a lot of things wrong. She's giving too much attention to normie-tier shitrags like Trash Taste, and mingling too much into the embarrassing sect of indie EN Vtubers, namely Domo's rat-king. She's treading into dangerous territory and if she breaks the seal, so to speak, that could spell trouble for a lot of the other Holo girls as well, as they might get pressured to be dragged along for the hell-ride, which I don't want.

I know they want as much exposure as they can get, but I feel like Callie is going too far with 'spreading the love,' if that makes sense.
I think its specifically the fact that its Artemis that has everyone riled, since he’s nothing but a leech on the medium with money behind the avatar — to my knowledge Kiara talked to an indie first a week or so ago, which was a minor yab until another something else happened that made everyone forget about it.
 
Also yeah, I think people are getting a bit too worked up over a tweet. Calli has given attention to smaller streamers before.
I mean, Ririsya was one of the people who submitted an entry for her remix contest AND had her video featured in Calli's contest results stream, so it's not as much of a surprise for Calli to keep an eye on her.

Meanwhile, Artemis is over here having done fuckall of note.
 
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