2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Idle incidental thought: /pol/ has no threads up that contain the word Rubicon in the OP. I'd expect those fuckers to be all over the concept, but it's dead silent. Odds the jannies are up to shit?

Cross the (online) Rubicon into /pol/! We're declaring war on the jannies! For our right to shitpost!

No, wait. That'd be stupid.
 
It's not a coincidence that 2018 was the first year in over a hundred years that both Florida senate seats were held by Republicans. Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis were bleeding their leads due to Broward County counting for days, while Mexico Beach in Bay County finished recounting long before Broward even though it was destroyed by a hurricane, until Scott put an end to that.
That decree is such horseshit, and I'm amazed that it was even allowed to stand, but not surprised that it started.

What gets me is the asshole judge came back out of retirement once a year just to force it to be extended forever. He did this up until the day he fucking died. Just to make it so that the GOP had to eat shit if the DNC stole an election. Why? Because MUH BWAKS.

What's the immediate thing they're screaming about Wayne County?

WON'T YOU THINK OF MUH BWAKS?!
 
All the fraud arguments come down to is simply which you think is more likely:
  1. Democrat election officials wanted a Biden win (or Trump loss) so badly that they were willing to cheat knowing that they probably wouldn’t get caught.
  2. Republican observers and officials want a Trump win so badly that they were willing to lie, even though their names would be forever signed to their statements.

There’s a partisan component to how you stand on this, and if you think otherwise you’re deluding yourself. My money is squarely on number 1., although in reality it’s likely a mix of both. The only rational solution is to investigate, and it speaks volumes that the resistance to that idea is ironically on the side that rabidly insists that there’s nothing to find.
 
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All the fraud arguments come down to is simply which you think is more likely:
  1. Democrat election officials wanted a Biden win (or Trump loss) so badly that they were willing to cheat knowing that they probably wouldn’t get caught.
  2. Republican observers and officials want a Trump win so badly that they were willing to lie, even though their names would be forever
    signed to their statements.

There’s a partisan component to how you stand on this, and if you think otherwise you’re deluding yourself. My money is squarely on number 1., although in reality it’s likely a mix of both. The only rational solution is to investigate, and it speaks volumes that the resistance to that idea is ironically on the side that rabidly insists that there’s nothing to find.

There's other options.

People have suggested this was a local idiot or two who saw the Red Wave and panicked, so they just tossed in the ballots instead of just letting Trump have the W and trying to rig downballots so he'd have no House/Senate (which would have been the smart play). Basically, Local Corruption + Panic = A little Fraud becomes MASSIVE FRAUD and shit hits the fan.

People have also suggested that other affinity groups saw one of the states pull the "Push Buttan Receive Ballot" thing at 4 AM and decided to do it themselves. Your standard monkey see sheboon do situation.

It appears to be too sloppily done to be something the DNC would have ordered from on high. It really appears to be local idiots who didn't think it could be detected, or didn't care about the consequences because "lol what's he gonna do sue us?"
 
Democrats and Republicans saying
When the bulk of the establishment agrees on something is precisely when you should feel a chill down your spine. In those situations whatever they're gung ho about is inevitably going to be the crookedest most evil shit possible and will be disaster for the non-demonic classes.
 
There's other options.

People have suggested this was a local idiot or two who saw the Red Wave and panicked, so they just tossed in the ballots instead of just letting Trump have the W and trying to rig downballots so he'd have no House/Senate (which would have been the smart play). Basically, Local Corruption + Panic = A little Fraud becomes MASSIVE FRAUD and shit hits the fan.

People have also suggested that other affinity groups saw one of the states pull the "Push Buttan Receive Ballot" thing at 4 AM and decided to do it themselves. Your standard monkey see sheboon do situation.

It appears to be too sloppily done to be something the DNC would have ordered from on high. It really appears to be local idiots who didn't think it could be detected, or didn't care about the consequences because "lol what's he gonna do sue us?"
This is the big thing. It's frankly too damned messy to have been coordinated in the Shadowed Halls of Power, but the fact that the DNC did not throw the individuals responsible right under the bus and spend the next 50 years swearing that they got rid of the riggers just like they did to the KKK makes them accessories to it anyway.
 
This is the big thing. It's frankly too damned messy to have been coordinated in the Shadowed Halls of Power, but the fact that the DNC did not throw the individuals responsible right under the bus and spend the next 50 years swearing that they got rid of the riggers just like they did to the KKK makes them accessories to it anyway.

I think they're genuinely waiting to see if Trump can prove it or not. They're also not diving in front of the riggers to protect them, either. Pelosi, Biden, etc have all been dead fucking silent.

Of course, Romney opened his fat mouth, but he wants power so badly he can taste it, so no surprise there.
 
All the fraud arguments come down to is simply which you think is more likely:
  1. Democrat election officials wanted a Biden win (or Trump loss) so badly that they were willing to cheat knowing that they probably wouldn’t get caught.
  2. Republican observers and officials want a Trump win so badly that they were willing to lie, even though their names would be forever
    signed to their statements.

There’s a partisan component to how you stand on this, and if you think otherwise you’re deluding yourself. My money is squarely on number 1., although in reality it’s likely a mix of both. The only rational solution is to investigate, and it speaks volumes that the resistance to that idea is ironically on the side that rabidly insists that there’s nothing to find.

I retract my spergy post because I misread what you said.


There's other options.

People have suggested this was a local idiot or two who saw the Red Wave and panicked, so they just tossed in the ballots instead of just letting Trump have the W and trying to rig downballots so he'd have no House/Senate (which would have been the smart play). Basically, Local Corruption + Panic = A little Fraud becomes MASSIVE FRAUD and shit hits the fan.

People have also suggested that other affinity groups saw one of the states pull the "Push Buttan Receive Ballot" thing at 4 AM and decided to do it themselves. Your standard monkey see sheboon do situation.

It appears to be too sloppily done to be something the DNC would have ordered from on high. It really appears to be local idiots who didn't think it could be detected, or didn't care about the consequences because "lol what's he gonna do sue us?"

Except that the same playbook happened in multiple states at the same time with the same results, given a high pressure situation it's very rare you will see efforts that will align so closely across multiple groups that also produce the same results without some form of premeditation.

If you doubt the veracity of that claim, ask yourself why police, firemen, armed forces constantly drill? Why are there fire drills? If you can trust people to perform the actions required to pull it out of the bag on the fly at the last minute, no one would ever need to train ever. This was coordinated, if it was 1 state, maybe even 3, but it's like 6-10 states depending on how far they want to take it.

I for one am kinda shocked no one seems to be talking about how all the votes are being tallied on servers on foreign soil. That shit is nutso.
 
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There's other options.

People have suggested this was a local idiot or two who saw the Red Wave and panicked, so they just tossed in the ballots instead of just letting Trump have the W and trying to rig downballots so he'd have no House/Senate (which would have been the smart play). Basically, Local Corruption + Panic = A little Fraud becomes MASSIVE FRAUD and shit hits the fan.

People have also suggested that other affinity groups saw one of the states pull the "Push Buttan Receive Ballot" thing at 4 AM and decided to do it themselves. Your standard monkey see sheboon do situation.

It appears to be too sloppily done to be something the DNC would have ordered from on high. It really appears to be local idiots who didn't think it could be detected, or didn't care about the consequences because "lol what's he gonna do sue us?"
Yeah, by “election officials” I just meant anybody in place locally responsible for counting ballots or sending numbers. I don’t think the idea that independent actors feared a Trump win badly enough to cheat is nearly the logical leap that the media is painting it to be. Especially since the media has been portraying Trump as literally Hitler for four years.

Coordinated or not, to dismiss the very possibility that fraud occurred because “my side would never do that” is the height of partisanship. Especially in a scenario where we literally gutted the systems that were put in place to ensure transparency and accountability.
 
They'll probably focus on Orban, Bolsonaro, Iran and North Korea, Syria, along with at least 2 more years of Afghanistan.
Their change with Iran would be back to piece-meal proxy-war slow-escalation plausible deniability bullshit on the ground while pandering to Iranian leadership at the peace table in a "de-escalation" move that would make Neville Chamberlain blush.
 
The Military hierarchy hates Trump. He goes through Defense Secretaries faster than he does Russian prostitutes. Trump's had to fire several high ranking military leaders from his administration because they wouldn't take his shit. It started with Mad Dog Mattis.

Bookmark this post, or remember my name, and message me on January 21st.
mad dog mattis known for scamming the fuck out of people for theranos.
 
It's too bad the narrative gatekeepers and their NPC thralls have the attention and memory span of a gnat with a concussion. Otherwise, this shit would have an effect.
Without Trump I’m sure the media will pick on someone else like


They’ll probably revive French bashing and call their ‘Islamophobia’ cowardly then ‘cleverly’ state France is still cowardly since WWII and they surrendered diversity or some shit.
I have mixed feelings about Macron. He seems to want to become a based neo-Napoleon, but can't help prostrating himself before Frau Merkel.
 
Did we break a record for butthurt lib posting yesterday? It was really something.

Now they're back in TES congratulating themselves on their raid, confident that nobody is allowed to give it right back to them.

But this is the hugbox guise.
It's not a raid, this is the 2020 election thread not the Trump 2020 thread. It turned into the "Democrats rigged the largest scale election fraud in history and and there's no way Trump could have lost legit after intentionally needling half the country for the last four years" circle jerk but that doesn't change the topic of the thread.
 
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