2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Gustav Schuchardt]

It appears to be too sloppily done to be something the DNC would have ordered from on high. It really appears to be local idiots who didn't think it could be detected, or didn't care about the consequences because "lol what's he gonna do sue us?"

I think it was ordered from on high. Before the election, we had big tech saying 'We need to be careful that misinformation isn't spread about the election'. We had the media saying 'it's our role to 'call' the election'. Then the election happens and Trump is doing well but there's transparent bias in that the media call the whole West Coast for Biden before a single vote is in but states where Trump was ahead never gets called. Then they announce the counting will stop because people are tired. Then we need Trump to lose his lead due to vertical spikes in the Biden votes at 4 am.

And we find out in all the disputed states the Democrat local officials have changed the rules, only for Democrat voters and in defiance of the state legislature and in PA the Supreme Court. And Republicans have been prevented from watching the count at the key point when then vertical spike happened.

As Rudy asked is it just a coincidence that keeping Republican observers out happened in the exact same way in multiple states across the country? Is it a coincidence they all announced they'd stopped counting but continued counting and Biden came out ahead in a way that is statistically either implausible or impossible? At one point when it was impossible for Biden to win a state given Trump's lead and the percentage of votes counted they percentage went down because they'd discovered more votes, almost all for Biden, they needed to count. There are screenshots of Fox reporting turnouts over 100%.

It wasn't perfectly organized and people made mistakes but I think there's definitely a case that someone at the top of the DNC was directing local people to exclude observers, announce they'd stopped counting, and then find the necessary number of ballots to give Biden the win.

And then there's all the money they spent on Smartmatic software, a company that helped Chavez and Maduro rig their elections. The reason they needed that was that it told them how many ballots they'd need to stuff to come out ahead. Otherwise, they'd have to resort to the 1960 Mayor Daley technique of holding back one district until the others have declared and then stuffing the necessary ballots in that district to get a win. I mean to be fair it seems like they ended up doing exactly that but Smartmatic was clearly designed to make that unnecessary. I think Trump overperformed their polls and that's the reason they need to declare a halt and go Mayor Daley in the middle of the night.

And all the mechanisms to deal with this situation were in place before the election. Mail-in ballots were promoted and local Democrats tried to make them as insecure as possible. The media were primed to call states for Biden and not call states for Trump. Social media had mechanisms in place to ban (peons) or sticky (people who are too famous to ban) posts that claimed fraud.

In fact in the interview where Hillary told Biden not to concede she said they needed to have people in place to stop Republicans intimidating people at the polls. That plus COVID gave them a good excuse to exclude poll observers or make them stand so far back they couldn't do their jobs.

And you have Biden announcing we won't know the results for several days and we should all go to sleep or that he had 'the most extensive voter fraud operation in history'.

People at the top of the DNC knew exactly what was going to happen. So did the media. So did Big Tech.

That's what is so concerning about this. If it was just 'Hanging chads? LOL Florida can't organize an election for shit!' like it was in 2000 it wouldn't be as serious.

 

[TheSimpShow]

It's too bad the narrative gatekeepers and their NPC thralls have the attention and memory span of a gnat with a concussion. Otherwise, this shit would have an effect.

Why its almost like a handsome, and entertaining shitposter on this site has begun work on a framework to undermine that particular issue. The media needs to be ostracized to the extent they are seen in the same light as the tobacco industry, because they cause way more cancer than nicotine and Indian tears ever could.

 

[soy_king]

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but as of this moment I think it would be better for Biden to win, although Trump should still fight this in court for as long as possible. There are several reasons for this:
1. With Biden in and Trump out, the Democrats have a pyrrhic victory. The lightning rod that unified the warring factions is gone, and they're left to pick up the pieces of a country they destroyed to get the win. Assuming of course that we're not in a pandemic or some other bullshit in 2022, the DNC won't have the time to sufficiently rebuild in a way that they will be super popular, and dementia Joe and Kopmala aren't nearly charismatic enough to guarantee that the mid terms won't be a rout.

2. Republicans control the legislatures of most states where there will be redistricting, and will likely also push through some further election integrity laws. I strongly see Georgia and Pennsylvania tightening their laws, but this will need to have legal challenges.

3. Trump's massive turnout shows the Republicans can't and won't ignore his ideological base. That means they will need to pander to economic populism, which makes them more liable to primary challenges.

4. Trump not backing down and fighting it all the way will endear him to his base, as if he had just given up they would've abandoned him. He will instead live on as a martyr against a corrupt system and will likely serve as a new Reagan. A more appropriate analogy is actually Salvador Allende, but not nearly as much of an authoritarian faggot as he was.

 

[ChikN10der]

It's too bad the narrative gatekeepers and their NPC thralls have the attention and memory span of a gnat with a concussion. Otherwise, this shit would have an effect.

At a certain point you just have to give up on convincing people whose idea of "truth" is "I saw it on cnn".

They're operating in bad faith. Fuck em, they aren't relevant at this point. The people who need convincing are the sc, and gop legislators.

No matter what, the usual suspects will scream and cry. Whatever, eventually jake tapper will tell them what to think.

 

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Based Dilbert points out the manipulation tactics the left is using:

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1329794369453400064

https://archive.vn/kSIgQ

Remembering he's the one that predicted a Trump win in 2015 based on Trump's persuasion abilities.

 

[ChikN10der]

It's not a raid, this is the 2020 election thread not the Trump 2020 thread. It turned into the "Democrats rigged the largest scale election fraud in history and and there's no way Trump could have lost legit after intentionally needling half the country for the last four years" circle jerk but that doesn't change the topic of the thread.

Yeah that's true, but it doesn't change the fact that it was a group of people posting shit with no intention of honest engagement.

Pretending otherwise is just being a retard.

 

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This is probably an unpopular opinion, but as of this moment I think it would be better for Biden to win, although Trump should still fight this in court for as long as possible. There are several reasons for this:
1. With Biden in and Trump out, the Democrats have a pyrrhic victory. The lightning rod that unified the warring factions is gone, and they're left to pick up the pieces of a country they destroyed to get the win. Assuming of course that we're not in a pandemic or some other bullshit in 2022, the DNC won't have the time to sufficiently rebuild in a way that they will be super popular, and dementia Joe and Kopmala aren't nearly charismatic enough to guarantee that the mid terms won't be a rout.

2. Republicans control the legislatures of most states where there will be redistricting, and will likely also push through some further election integrity laws. I strongly see Georgia and Pennsylvania tightening their laws, but this will need to have legal challenges.

3. Trump's massive turnout shows the Republicans can't and won't ignore his ideological base. That means they will need to pander to economic populism, which makes them more liable to primary challenges.

4. Trump not backing down and fighting it all the way will endear him to his base, as if he had just given up they would've abandoned him. He will instead live on as a martyr against a corrupt system and will likely serve as a new Reagan. A more appropriate analogy is actually Salvador Allende, but not nearly as much of an authoritarian faggot as he was.

Biden wins after stealing an election is Pyrrhic.

What kind of victory is "Trump wins after the DNC tries to steal it and fails in front of every set of eyes in the nation?"

Because I like that one better.

 

[The Pink Panther]

What kind of victory is "Trump wins after the DNC tries to steal it and fails in front of every set of eyes in the nation?"

Because I like that one better.

The victory that won't come because we control pretty much everything you hold dear and we will make sure that you alt-right idiots won't get presidential power for a second time.

 

[Standardized Profile]

We have the best Autistics, don't we folks?

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I'm looking at Braynard's Twitter and he's doing a lot of work on these disputed states, which is understandable, but it would look better if he did the same analysis on all the other states as well. If he put out an infographic showing 45 states had this level of questionable votes, but these 5 states had (e.g.) 6 times that level, it would really drive home the point that something unusual happened and it should be investigated. Or if all states have similar levels of questionable votes, that raises a new set of questions.

 

[Meat Target]

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but as of this moment I think it would be better for Biden to win, although Trump should still fight this in court for as long as possible. There are several reasons for this:
1. With Biden in and Trump out, the Democrats have a pyrrhic victory. The lightning rod that unified the warring factions is gone, and they're left to pick up the pieces of a country they destroyed to get the win. Assuming of course that we're not in a pandemic or some other bullshit in 2022, the DNC won't have the time to sufficiently rebuild in a way that they will be super popular, and dementia Joe and Kopmala aren't nearly charismatic enough to guarantee that the mid terms won't be a rout.

2. Republicans control the legislatures of most states where there will be redistricting, and will likely also push through some further election integrity laws. I strongly see Georgia and Pennsylvania tightening their laws, but this will need to have legal challenges.

3. Trump's massive turnout shows the Republicans can't and won't ignore his ideological base. That means they will need to pander to economic populism, which makes them more liable to primary challenges.

4. Trump not backing down and fighting it all the way will endear him to his base, as if he had just given up they would've abandoned him. He will instead live on as a martyr against a corrupt system and will likely serve as a new Reagan. A more appropriate analogy is actually Salvador Allende, but not nearly as much of an authoritarian faggot as he was.

It will only be a pyrrhic victory if R's keep the Senate. Sure, keep up with Trump's lawfare, but the GOP needs to concentrate a fuckton of their efforts on the Georgia runoffs. Because that's exactly what the Dems are doing at the moment. Trump getting back the swing states, while possible, is still a massive Hail Mary.

 

[XYZpdq]

I think it was ordered from on high. Before the election, we had big tech saying 'We need to be careful that misinformation isn't spread about the election'. We had the media saying 'it's our role to 'call' the election'. Then the election happens and Trump is doing well but there's transparent bias in that the media call the whole West Coast for Biden before a single vote is in but states where Trump was ahead never gets called. Then they announce the counting will stop because people are tired. Then we need Trump to lose his lead due to vertical spikes in the Biden votes at 4 am.

And we find out in all the disputed states the Democrat local officials have changed the rules, only for Democrat voters and in defiance of the state legislature and in PA the Supreme Court. And Republicans have been prevented from watching the count at the key point when then vertical spike happened.

As Rudy asked is it just a coincidence that keeping Republican observers out happened in the exact same way in multiple states across the country? Is it a coincidence they all announced they'd stopped counting but continued counting and Biden came out ahead in a way that is statistically either implausible or impossible? At one point when it was impossible for Biden to win a state given Trump's lead and the percentage of votes counted they percentage went down because they'd discovered more votes, almost all for Biden, they needed to count. There are screenshots of Fox reporting turnouts over 100%.

It wasn't perfectly organized and people made mistakes but I think there's definitely a case that someone at the top of the DNC was directing local people to exclude observers, announce they'd stopped counting, and then find the necessary number of ballots to give Biden the win.

And then there's all the money they spent on Smartmatic software, a company that helped Chavez and Maduro rig their elections. The reason they needed that was that it told them how many ballots they'd need to stuff to come out ahead. Otherwise, they'd have to resort to the 1960 Mayor Daley technique of holding back one district until the others have declared and then stuffing the necessary ballots in that district to get a win. I mean to be fair it seems like they ended up doing exactly that but Smartmatic was clearly designed to make that unnecessary. I think Trump overperformed their polls and that's the reason they need to declare a halt and go Mayor Daley in the middle of the night.

And all the mechanisms to deal with this situation were in place before the election. Mail-in ballots were promoted and local Democrats tried to make them as insecure as possible. The media were primed to call states for Biden and not call states for Trump. Social media had mechanisms in place to ban (peons) or sticky (people who are too famous to ban) posts that claimed fraud.

In fact in the interview where Hillary told Biden not to concede she said they needed to have people in place to stop Republicans intimidating people at the polls. That plus COVID gave them a good excuse to exclude poll observers or make them stand so far back they couldn't do their jobs.

And you have Biden announcing we won't know the results for several days and we should all go to sleep or that he had 'the most extensive voter fraud operation in history'.

People at the top of the DNC knew exactly what was going to happen. So did the media. So did Big Tech.

That's what is so concerning about this. If it was just 'Hanging chads? LOL Florida can't organize an election for shit!' like it was in 2000 it wouldn't be as serious.

If anything actually happens (obviously a massive if), I wouldn't be shocked if there's some behind the scenes agreement of "take the L, throw the front lines under the bus, we're cleaning all this shit out, and we'll let you continue existing as a party" type deal.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

Except that the same playbook happened in multiple states at the same time with the same results, given a high pressure situation it's very rare you will see efforts that will align so closely across multiple groups that also produce the same results without some form of premeditation.

If you doubt the veracity of that claim, ask yourself why police, firemen, armed forces constantly drill? Why are there fire drills? If you can trust people to perform the actions required to pull it out of the bag on the fly at the last minute, no one would ever need to train ever. This was coordinated, if it was 1 state, maybe even 3, but it's like 6-10 states depending on how far they want to take it.

They've had plenty of practice by committing the fraud in previous elections, though for more local positions. The sloppiness is likely due to the magnitude of the fraud,

I for one am kinda shocked no one seems to be talking about how all the votes are being tallied on servers on foreign soil. That shit is nutso.

Apparently foreign interference is okay now.

 

[DtoDab]

Shut the fuck up faggot! Tired of you niggers coming to this thread you wingsofredemption larper. We literally have certain times in a day when we black pill ourselves on this thread or make a mockery of the random black pills.

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Sizeable if verifiable

You guys are a bit behind here on the farms.

There is robust technical and statistical evidence of fraud over analysis.

The results don't look fishy because they are "weird", you see outright technical and mathematical impossibilities in them.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Assuming of course that we're not in a pandemic or some other bullshit in 2022, the DNC won't have the time to sufficiently rebuild in a way that they will be super popular, and dementia Joe and Kopmala aren't nearly charismatic enough to guarantee that the mid terms won't be a rout.

No offense but that's completely naive. The media will start hyping up right-wing terror, social media misinformation, and coronavirus pushing Biden for more lockdowns and censorship. When it comes to the Mid Terms the media will call it for the Democrats half an hour into the election and. Social media will silence anyone who alleges fraud. Lockdowns mean no demonstrations. Anything and everything will be labeled right-wing terror. If people defy all that and demonstrate he can invoke the Insurrection Act, even if Trump thought it was a step too far.

I'd say the risk of that is too great for Republicans to not fight now when they have the White House, SCOTUS, and state legislatures. Because it only takes one round of rigged elections to grab the last one and even the second is vulnerable if Biden or Harris decide to stack the court. Which they'll have the votes to do. If you're not going to fight it now you hold most of the cards how will you fight when you hold none of them in a couple of years' time?

If anything actually happens (obviously a massive if), I wouldn't be shocked if there's some behind the scenes agreement of "take the L, throw the front lines under the bus, we're cleaning all this shit out, and we'll let you continue existing as a party" type deal.

Most assuredly. I'd expect whichever party takes the L will come out and say 'We're conceding for the good of the nation. Remember to vote for us in the midterms and for President in 2024' and their surrogates will then brief how they would have won a fair election were robbed of their victory by chicanery.

 

[TheSimpShow]

At a certain point you just have to give up on convincing people whose idea of "truth" is "I saw it on cnn".

They're operating in bad faith. Fuck em, they aren't relevant at this point. The people who need convincing are the sc, and gop legislators.

No matter what, the usual suspects will scream and cry. Whatever, eventually jake tapper will tell them what to think.

The trust dynamic that the media has manufactured with everyday people needs to be shattered, and this can only be done with people you know, verbally, and not in a hostile way.

"I'm sure they were very convincing at the time, maybe you just had to be there"

"You sound a little unhinged, how about we change the subject because you seem upset"

I'm still trying to formulate effective means of cracking that power dynamic within people, but the time to start driving that wedge is now and it needs to be done gently.

 

[LurkTrawl]

recap

And yet there's people who say that there wasn't any fraud. I swear some people would happily chug buckets of diarrhetic shit if the media told them it was chocolate pudding.

 

[Epsteindidnothingwrong]

You guys are a bit behind here on the farms.

There is robust technical and statistical evidence of fraud over analysis.

The results don't look fishy because they are "weird", you see outright technical and mathematical impossibilities in them.

You literally quoted something from me that has nothing to do with your gay reply. Kill yourself.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

Assuming of course that we're not in a pandemic or some other bullshit in 2022, the DNC won't have the time to sufficiently rebuild in a way that they will be super popular, and dementia Joe and Kopmala aren't nearly charismatic enough to guarantee that the mid terms won't be a rout.

That's exactly why they're trying to plant another Chicago-style democrat machine in Atlanta, they won't have to be popular. They get a guaranteed permanent 16 EVs and two senate seats against the wishes of the residents of the state.

The trust dynamic that the media has manufactured with everyday people needs to be shattered, and this can only be done with people you know, verbally, and not in a hostile way.

"I'm sure they were very convincing at the time, maybe you just had to be there"

"You sound a little unhinged, how about we change the subject because you seem upset"

I'm still trying to formulate effective means of cracking that power dynamic within people, but the time to start driving that wedge is now and it needs to be done gently.

The best I can think of is to try asking open ended questions about how strange everything is.
"Isn't it weird that Biden got 10 million more votes than Obama?" among others. Unfortunately for most people, it's a narrative battle.

And yet there's people who say that there wasn't any fraud. I swear some people would happily chug buckets of diarrhetic shit if the media told them it was chocolate pudding.

There are people who are actually convinced town-sized 4am ballot drops 100% for one candidate (better odds than Castro) are fucking normal because teevee box man said so.

 

[soy_king]

It will only be a pyrrhic victory if R's keep the Senate. Sure, keep up with Trump's lawfare, but the GOP needs to concentrate a fuckton of their efforts on the Georgia runoffs. Because that's exactly what the Dems are doing at the moment. Trump getting back the swing states, while possible, is still a massive Hail Mary.

Even if they get the Senate, it will still very likely be a pyrrhic victory unless they can push through "rebalancing the courts" (aka court packing). As of the moment, it's a deeply unpopular position, and most normal Democrats aren't touching that booby trap. In 2008, Obama and Pelosi couldn't push through shit, leading to the largest loss of seats in Congress in recent American history. Right now, the Democrats are even more divided than they were then, and if/when they go through with the Progressive purge, they're guaranteeing losses in youth voter interest.

No offense but that's completely naive. The media will start hyping up right-wing terror, social media misinformation, and coronavirus pushing Biden for more lockdowns and censorship. When it comes to the Mid Terms the media will call it for the Democrats half an hour into the election and. Social media will silence anyone who alleges fraud. Lockdowns mean no demonstrations. Anything and everything will be labeled right-wing terror. If people defy all that and demonstrate he can invoke the Insurrection Act, even if Trump thought it was a step too far.

I'd say the risk of that is too great for Republicans to not fight now when they have the White House, SCOTUS, and state legislatures. Because it only takes one round of rigged elections to grab the last one and even the second is vulnerable if Biden or Harris decide to stack the court. Which they'll have the votes to do. If you're not going to fight it now you hold most of the cards how will you fight when you hold none of them in a couple of years' time?

That relies on them being able to control the elections in OH, TX, FL, and a bunch of other states and that people will actually listen to them. They've been hyping right wing terror for the last five years, and does most of the country actually believe them? If they did, why were shops boarding up their stores in LA and Chicago and not Dallas or Fort Worth?

Again, the rigged elections are a problem, which is why it needs to go all the way through the courts. If SCOTUS rules that a bunch of rules were ignored and the State Boards can't just make up their own rules, that's enough of a win to maintain some sense of electoral fairness. Plus, this election has opened the eyes to 47% of the country that the elections system is fundamentally broken. Unless the DNC has new tricks up their sleeves, more people will be paying attention the next time around. Again, the electoral fraud could only take place on the scale that it did because of the Rona. To pull off the same heist, the Dems will need to keep the mail in voting system that was only legitimized because of the pandemic.

 

[LurkTrawl]

As of the moment, it's a deeply unpopular position,

You're naive if you think they'll give a single fuck about that once in power. That mask slipped off aeons ago at this point.