2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

All of this civil war talk is stupid because it'll be like watching fat people riding electric Carts fighting fat whales with blue Mohawks and soyboy numales with Nintendo switches unleashing their soylent Grimmance.

While us autistic retards watch from afar at the shit show.

You mean like the retards who went on a picnic to watch the First Battle of Bull Run?

 

[Meat Target]

All of this civil war talk is stupid because it'll be like watching fat people riding electric Carts fighting fat whales with blue Mohawks and soyboy numales with Nintendo switches unleashing their soylent Grimmance.

While us autistic retards watch from afar at the shit show.

Who would NOT want to see such a Lulzapalooza?

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

I wonder if all the people who were like "Tucker 2024!" and "Tucker is someone who would fight for us!" feel dumb now.

 

[soy_king]

You're naive if you think they'll give a single fuck about that once in power. That mask slipped off aeons ago at this point.

You think Joe Manchin doesn't realize that his thin majority relies on him pandering to people who openly support a conservative SCOTUS? He votes for court packing, and he can kiss his seat goodbye. Did you also know that there's a Democratic Senator in MT? Imagine if that guy votes for court packing to destroy a conservative SCOTUS. Sherrod Brown of OH is also in the hot seat if it goes through. Finally, any Republican senator with any dreams of incumbency or staying in the good graces of the GOP won't dare to fuck McConnell over like that. There's a reason why Romney has been such a bitch to Cocaine Mitch, and that's because he realizes that if he crosses the tortoise he'll be primaried faster than you can say binders full of women.

 

[LurkTrawl]

You think Joe Manchin doesn't realize that his thin majority relies on him pandering to people who openly support a conservative SCOTUS? He votes for court packing, and he can kiss his seat goodbye. Did you also know that there's a Democratic Senator in MT? Imagine if that guy votes for court packing to destroy a conservative SCOTUS. Sherrod Brown of OH is also in the hot seat if it goes through. Finally, any Republican senator with any dreams of incumbency or staying in the good graces of the GOP won't dare to fuck McConnell over like that. There's a reason why Romney has been such a bitch to Cocaine Mitch, and that's because he realizes that if he crosses the tortoise he'll be primaried faster than you can say binders full of women.

Funny how votes don't really matter if you can just rig the system and have an army of cumslurpers deny the existence of fraud for you. I really don't think it's gotten through to people that if they're willing to rig a presidential election they won't give a flying fuck about local elections.

 

[GuntPunt]

I wonder if all the people who were like "Tucker 2024!" and "Tucker is someone who would fight for us!" feel dumb now.

Meh, I always thought Mike Rowe would probably be the next best sucessor to Trump.

Guy appeals to everyone except the rich. He would probably flip states not seen in years.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

You think Joe Manchin doesn't realize that his thin majority relies on him pandering to people who openly support a conservative SCOTUS? He votes for court packing, and he can kiss his seat goodbye. Did you also know that there's a Democratic Senator in MT? Imagine if that guy votes for court packing to destroy a conservative SCOTUS. Sherrod Brown of OH is also in the hot seat if it goes through. Finally, any Republican senator with any dreams of incumbency or staying in the good graces of the GOP won't dare to fuck McConnell over like that. There's a reason why Romney has been such a bitch to Cocaine Mitch, and that's because he realizes that if he crosses the tortoise he'll be primaried faster than you can say binders full of women.

They thought it was cool to vote guilty on both articles of impeachment against the president that won those states handily.

 

[soy_king]

Funny how votes don't really matter if you can just rig the system and have an army of cumslurpers deny the existence of fraud for you. I really don't think it's gotten through to people that if they're willing to rig a presidential election they won't give a flying fuck about local elections.

That only works in NPC world and the shadow lands of the Blue Coast. The majority of GOP voters and a fair amount of Independents believe the election was rigged. How good of a job are the cumslurpers doing to convince them of it being "the most secure election in history," or even you for that matter?

 

[Meat Target]

You think Joe Manchin doesn't realize that his thin majority relies on him pandering to people who openly support a conservative SCOTUS? He votes for court packing, and he can kiss his seat goodbye. Did you also know that there's a Democratic Senator in MT? Imagine if that guy votes for court packing to destroy a conservative SCOTUS. Sherrod Brown of OH is also in the hot seat if it goes through. Finally, any Republican senator with any dreams of incumbency or staying in the good graces of the GOP won't dare to fuck McConnell over like that. There's a reason why Romney has been such a bitch to Cocaine Mitch, and that's because he realizes that if he crosses the tortoise he'll be primaried faster than you can say binders full of women.

And for every one of them, you have a Gretchen Whitmer or Ralph Northam that will double down on their shit, even when Meal Team Six shows up on their doorstep strapped for bear and REEEEEEing at the top of their struggling lungs.

 

[ChikN10der]

So representatives from dominion were supposed to testify to the PA state house committee today. They backed out.

Pa house now holding a press conference about it.

For those keeping score, we have > 0 people saying, under penalty of perjury, that dominion cheated. We have 0 people saying, under penalty of perjury, dominion didn't cheat, even though they just had an opportunity to do so.

Hmmmm...

 

[LurkTrawl]

That only works in NPC world and the shadow lands of the Blue Coast. The majority of GOP voters and a fair amount of Independents believe the election was rigged. How good of a job are the cumslurpers doing to convince them of it being "the most secure election in history," or even you for that matter?

Fair point but it still doesn't mean shit if there's no pushback against it, on an institutional level, that has any meaningful effect. I've said it earlier but I really think if they can just skate with this shit, it's only going to get much worse next election. This is a party of pushing the envelope, after all.

I do wish I could share your optimism but I find myself lacking in that regard.

 

[soy_king]

They thought it was cool to vote guilty on both articles of impeachment against the president that won those states handily.

None of them were up for reelection this year. If Manchin's ass was on the line this year, he'd have stayed well away. Just look at what happened to Doug Jones in AL. Tommy Tuberville clobbered his ass.

And for every one of them, you have a Gretchen Whitmer or Ralph Northam that will double down on their shit, even when Meal Team Six shows up on their doorstep strapped for bear and REEEEEEing at the top of their struggling lungs.

Yes, those states are fucked for now, but I have a very strong feeling that Porkface Whitmer will have a very difficult election struggle in 2022, especially if John James is nominated for the race. As for Blackface Ralph, let's see if he tries to turn VA into a gun free state again.

 

[Say No More]

This is kinda funny: Dominion, which is Canadian-owned, acquired Premier Election solutions/Diebold Election System in the past.
These systems had fraud allegations against them. Dominion purchased "primary assets of Premier, including all intellectual property, software, firmware and hardware for Premier's current and legacy optical scan, central scan, and touch screen voting systems, and all versions of the GEMS election management system from ES&S."

These companies were involved in various election scandals in the 2000's. Dominion also bought another election company called sequoia.
The man in charge of Dominion at the time; had once worked at seqouia.

2017 article| https://archive.md/frC0s

The article describes them (diebold) as follows:

"However, as mentioned, Riggall had formerly served as press rep for Diebold and, prior to that, as the Press Secretary to GA’s Democratic Sec. of State Cathy Cox until she left the post. In 2002, long before she left office following an unsuccessful primary bid for her party’s Gubernatorial nomination in 2006, Cox infamously brought Diebold’s horrendous touch-screen voting system to the entire state of Georgia. The Peach State, along with Maryland, was the first to adopt state-wide use of Diebold’s infamous, oft-failed, easily-manipulated, 100% unverifiable touch-screen voting systems. Chicanery with the systems has been the subject of much controversy — fueled in part by a company whistleblower, as detailed by Bobby Kennedy Jr. at Rolling Stone in 2006 — in regard to the declared upset victory of Republican Saxby Chambliss over then incumbent Democratic Sen. Max Cleland."

What if it wasn't Russian interference they had to fear, but rather their own neighbor.; Canada!
Now that would be funny.

Wonder just how much they managed to improve upon that ill-reputed soft and hardware.

 

[Gehenna]

There's other options.

People have suggested this was a local idiot or two who saw the Red Wave and panicked, so they just tossed in the ballots instead of just letting Trump have the W and trying to rig downballots so he'd have no House/Senate (which would have been the smart play). Basically, Local Corruption + Panic = A little Fraud becomes MASSIVE FRAUD and shit hits the fan.

People have also suggested that other affinity groups saw one of the states pull the "Push Buttan Receive Ballot" thing at 4 AM and decided to do it themselves. Your standard monkey see sheboon do situation.

It appears to be too sloppily done to be something the DNC would have ordered from on high. It really appears to be local idiots who didn't think it could be detected, or didn't care about the consequences because "lol what's he gonna do sue us?"

This is the big thing. It's frankly too damned messy to have been coordinated in the Shadowed Halls of Power, but the fact that the DNC did not throw the individuals responsible right under the bus and spend the next 50 years swearing that they got rid of the riggers just like they did to the KKK makes them accessories to it anyway.

I retract my spergy post because I misread what you said.




Except that the same playbook happened in multiple states at the same time with the same results, given a high pressure situation it's very rare you will see efforts that will align so closely across multiple groups that also produce the same results without some form of premeditation.

If you doubt the veracity of that claim, ask yourself why police, firemen, armed forces constantly drill? Why are there fire drills? If you can trust people to perform the actions required to pull it out of the bag on the fly at the last minute, no one would ever need to train ever. This was coordinated, if it was 1 state, maybe even 3, but it's like 6-10 states depending on how far they want to take it.

I for one am kinda shocked no one seems to be talking about how all the votes are being tallied on servers on foreign soil. That shit is nutso.

I think it was ordered from on high. Before the election, we had big tech saying 'We need to be careful that misinformation isn't spread about the election'. We had the media saying 'it's our role to 'call' the election'. Then the election happens and Trump is doing well but there's transparent bias in that the media call the whole West Coast for Biden before a single vote is in but states where Trump was ahead never gets called. Then they announce the counting will stop because people are tired. Then we need Trump to lose his lead due to vertical spikes in the Biden votes at 4 am.

"Fraud from on high" and "Massive fraud by individual actors" are not mutually exclusive. Look, its basically established fact that the Democrats... shall we say "Pad the numbers" a little. Never enough to outright steal an election, but enough to turn a close race into a lock. This is not to say Republicans are innocent of their own tactics. What likely occurred was that they ramped up their usual fraud a bit, thinking it'd push them over. Hence the media blitz, they knew it was gonna see some challenges. Also why the upper brass -tried- to backtrack when Ginsburgh died. But Ginsburg's death so close to the election was a double edged sword, and there was no time to really counteract their on the ground movement.

Something to keep in mind for left-wing organization. Its there, its strong, but it works more like a mob than a hierarchical structure à la the military. You have leaders, but they don't directly command so much as... strongly suggest. Then the leaders under them suggest to their individual groups, whose sub groups are suggested by those leaders, and so down the line in a fractal mess. Direct hierarchy is rare amongst the left wing, and so often subordinates don't acknowledge anyone;s orders higher up than, at best, 2 levels.

The upsides to this organizational structure is that it can act freely quicker and more efficiently, and that it creates momentum behind it that allows its leaders to remain hands off and focused elsewhere. The downside is that it means any orders from the top can take weeks, months, sometimes years to fully spread through the lower levels.

So lets bring this lesson back on topic. Ginsburg dies in September, the most powerful democrat Nancy Pelosi immediately signals that the mail in ballot fraud is no longer a secure path to victory. Their bump is now in danger, they should rely on tried and true methods. The problem is that all of the on the ground people are the lowest level of organization. This is a hard turn for a structure that -cannot- do hard turns. So by the time the election rolls around, the people on the ground know the order but have yet to really accept it... it is after all a SUGGESTION. They are hocked up on fear, have everything set up because nothing has had time to be dismantled, they see the red wave and... panic.

Now, why when this occurred did the DNC just not throw them under the bus? Well, because admitting they HAD done it would open pandora's box. People would wonder "When have you done this before" and would ALWAYS look at them. The fraud is always there, its how they bump over close races... and now they won't have that and can't for another 50 years, if they admit it. They'd be signing their own irrelevancy if they -ever- admitted it.

No offense but that's completely naive. The media will start hyping up right-wing terror, social media misinformation, and coronavirus pushing Biden for more lockdowns and censorship. When it comes to the Mid Terms the media will call it for the Democrats half an hour into the election and. Social media will silence anyone who alleges fraud. Lockdowns mean no demonstrations. Anything and everything will be labeled right-wing terror. If people defy all that and demonstrate he can invoke the Insurrection Act, even if Trump thought it was a step too far.

I'd say the risk of that is too great for Republicans to not fight now when they have the White House, SCOTUS, and state legislatures. Because it only takes one round of rigged elections to grab the last one and even the second is vulnerable if Biden or Harris decide to stack the court. Which they'll have the votes to do. If you're not going to fight it now you hold most of the cards how will you fight when you hold none of them in a couple of years' time?



Most assuredly. I'd expect whichever party takes the L will come out and say 'We're conceding for the good of the nation. Remember to vote for us in the midterms and for President in 2024' and their surrogates will then brief how they would have won a fair election were robbed of their victory by chicanery.

Keep in mind, Gustav, that all the swing states but Nevada are Republican controlled. And while they are run by RINOs they uhm... their constituents are not. They are going to feel a lot of pressure to do some election reform, and hooo boy if Trump loses its going to be a -lot- of pressure.

 

[-4ZURE-]

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but as of this moment I think it would be better for Biden to win, although Trump should still fight this in court for as long as possible. There are several reasons for this:
1. With Biden in and Trump out, the Democrats have a pyrrhic victory. The lightning rod that unified the warring factions is gone, and they're left to pick up the pieces of a country they destroyed to get the win. Assuming of course that we're not in a pandemic or some other bullshit in 2022, the DNC won't have the time to sufficiently rebuild in a way that they will be super popular, and dementia Joe and Kopmala aren't nearly charismatic enough to guarantee that the mid terms won't be a rout.

2. Republicans control the legislatures of most states where there will be redistricting, and will likely also push through some further election integrity laws. I strongly see Georgia and Pennsylvania tightening their laws, but this will need to have legal challenges.

3. Trump's massive turnout shows the Republicans can't and won't ignore his ideological base. That means they will need to pander to economic populism, which makes them more liable to primary challenges.

4. Trump not backing down and fighting it all the way will endear him to his base, as if he had just given up they would've abandoned him. He will instead live on as a martyr against a corrupt system and will likely serve as a new Reagan. A more appropriate analogy is actually Salvador Allende, but not nearly as much of an authoritarian faggot as he was.

Honestly, I am starting to view Biden as a better outcome the more I talk to Democrats. Now before I get hate—bombed, hear me out.

The Dems are split right now into two factions. There are the neo-Libs and their support base amongst the Gen X 40+ year olds that are very along the lines of people on the Farms in terms of politics, and then there is the progressive base comprised of 20-30 year old Millennials and early Gen Z that wants their Communist run. The older Dem base is smart, if not just behind in the times. They went from ahead of the old Neo-cons in the 90s and 2000s to the very Fox News watchers they bash as they rely solely on CNN and comedians because they were great 10+ years ago. They really do not align with progressives and would freak out about any change as they cannot even handle more moderate progressives like Bernie. When AOC is really on full display for something other than “strong woman” or “Trump Bad” the hope would be that Gen X loses it as her policies are too far left. Since Progressives are looking to overturn the Dem party for themselves, I believe anything hooking the two coinciding Dem generations together will fall apart quickly as the ideologies are contradictory to each other. Gen X wants to stay in the Obungo years, Progressives want full Commie mode. Their only glue was Trump, so expect war to break out.

I think Trump has done his work. He has radicalized the left to much for many to go with them. They are no longer slowly moving towards Communism and race policies like they were in 2016. Back then they could gain older peeps as they slowly introduced them to race policies and guilted them in. Now that they are going all in on stuff like the race education, which I have seen old Dems depict it as ridiculous.

As for Republicans, this election was so poorly handled that I doubt they will lose any support. Trump’s base is energized and ready to go, which will push support for the GOP in 24. Republicans can also likely count on the slow rising numbers of Gen Z as the more young, Republican base starts to factor in. If Progressives attempt to kill Biden’s run like they are planning, expect infighting in the DNC which will lead to low turnout as either progressives will get kicked out again and try to promote 3rd party, or they will win and alienate Gen X into leaving. The Dems cannot win without compromise, but neither is looking to do that. Progressives want blood, and Establishment has cucked all progressives for 4 years now.

Trump held the Dems together, without him, I say easy winnings for the GOP come 24, you know, unless fraud happens.

 

[Meat Target]

This is kinda funny: Dominion, which is Canadian-owned, acquired Premier Election solutions/Diebold Election System in the past.
These systems had fraud allegations against them. Dominion purchased "primary assets of Premier, including all intellectual property, software, firmware and hardware for Premier's current and legacy optical scan, central scan, and touch screen voting systems, and all versions of the GEMS election management system from ES&S."

These companies were involved in various election scandals in the 2000's. Dominion also bought another election company called sequoia.
The man in charge of Dominion at the time; had once worked at seqouia.

2017 article| https://archive.md/frC0s

The article describes them (diebold) as follows:

"However, as mentioned, Riggall had formerly served as press rep for Diebold and, prior to that, as the Press Secretary to GA’s Democratic Sec. of State Cathy Cox until she left the post. In 2002, long before she left office following an unsuccessful primary bid for her party’s Gubernatorial nomination in 2006, Cox infamously brought Diebold’s horrendous touch-screen voting system to the entire state of Georgia. The Peach State, along with Maryland, was the first to adopt state-wide use of Diebold’s infamous, oft-failed, easily-manipulated, 100% unverifiable touch-screen voting systems. Chicanery with the systems has been the subject of much controversy — fueled in part by a company whistleblower, as detailed by Bobby Kennedy Jr. at Rolling Stone in 2006 — in regard to the declared upset victory of Republican Saxby Chambliss over then incumbent Democratic Sen. Max Cleland."

What if it wasn't Russian interference they had to fear, but rather their own neighbor.; Canada!
Now that would be funny.

Wonder just how much they managed to improve upon that ill-reputed soft and hardware.

Day of the Rake can't come fast enough.

 

[AMHOLIO]

How close are we on things being taken to the supreme court? Near? Far? Halfway? Where we at timeline wise?

 

[HandsomeDan]

You mean like the retards who went on a picnic to watch the First Battle of Bull Run?

We prefer to call it First Manassas, but yes you are correct.

 

[soy_king]

Fair point but it still doesn't mean shit if there's no pushback against it, on an institutional level, that has any meaningful effect. I've said it earlier but I really think if they can just skate with this shit, it's only going to get much worse next election. This is a party of pushing the envelope, after all.

I do wish I could share your optimism but I find myself lacking in that regard.

I don't disagree that the fraud will get worse, but I also don't think they will do a good job covering their tracks. The heist relied on there being a surge in mail in voting this year, and that relied on a mass propaganda machine pushing the idea that it was unsafe to vote in person. I also believe that the lawsuits need to continue after the electoral college decides, and I sincerely hope the GOP isn't dumb enough to end their investigations. If they continue the litigation into next year, there won't be enough media exposure for the DNC to mobilize support for the fraud, and with less exposure and people moving on to the next outrage du jour, we might actually see legally rational decisions coming out of the courts.

 

[GuntPunt]

There's other options.

People have suggested this was a local idiot or two who saw the Red Wave and panicked, so they just tossed in the ballots instead of just letting Trump have the W and trying to rig downballots so he'd have no House/Senate (which would have been the smart play). Basically, Local Corruption + Panic = A little Fraud becomes MASSIVE FRAUD and shit hits the fan.

People have also suggested that other affinity groups saw one of the states pull the "Push Buttan Receive Ballot" thing at 4 AM and decided to do it themselves. Your standard monkey see sheboon do situation.

It appears to be too sloppily done to be something the DNC would have ordered from on high. It really appears to be local idiots who didn't think it could be detected, or didn't care about the consequences because "lol what's he gonna do sue us?"

According to Powell, Trump did so well that Dominion algorithms actually broke and they had to resort to manual input of Biden votes to win.

Funny if true.