2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Dogfacefuke]

I know this book is probably brought up way too much but one of my favorite reads is Brave New World. Control of the people is heavily dependent on soma, a feel good drug with no side effects, and also a government pseudo Christianity that lets people have spirituality without religion. Soma is "All the advantages of Christianity and alcohol; none of their defects." It is so powerful that any kind of worry or sadness can be remedied just by going on a hallucinageic "holiday". Nothing in life matters besides trivialities and people don't even fear death because they have been conditioned from birth to be content with everything. Anyway I don't want to write way too much about it but your comment just reminded me of the book which I reread every few years just because it's so interesting.

The true horror imo is that Soma might actually be the real deal, if you can allow yourself to subscribe to their society's ideology.

Why wouldn't pure happiness just be a matter of getting the chemistry right? You could say that the spirit of pleasure isn't the same without truth, but what could be truer than a chemical perfectly modeled to make you maximally happy? Maybe that is humanity in perfection?

If you look at the world from an objectivist perspective, I do honestly think that that is the technical "solution" to human happiness. Engineered to perfection. That's the whole book's philosophy really; that all humanity needs is proper Engineering. Orwell shows us a society destroyed by Engineering, Huxley shows us a world perfected by it.

Either solution is a horror show.

Huxley's Doors of Perception has some nice insight, through his exploration of mescaline/peyote, on how one might escape from such a nightmare, though.

 

[awoo]

If you don't mind, do go on. That sounds like a very interesting tangent.

The book covers a lot and idk which part you want me to write about. Huxley is a genius for coming up with such a thought out world. Iirc technology is advanced enough that people don't need to work, but the government has people do anyway just so they have something to do. And there's also plenty of sensual entertainment and purposely contrived sports to keep people entertained. People are conditioned by birth and born in factories so they have no family to have loyalty to, just their class and the state.
A big part of the novel is when the main characters visit a Savage Reservation, sort of a native american reservation where people still have childbirth and experience pain and religion. Then some stuff about Shakespeare I didn't get when I read the book because I wasn't familiar with it. There are a bunch of plot points I forget but I've given you some background.

 

[MrJokerRager]

My view is that since America is about to become a banana republic anyways then Trump will succeed in the end. People like Biden never last long in third world shitholes no matter who is supporting them behind the shadows. People value strength and "toxic masculine" traits in third world shitholes and thanks to the neoliberals and liberals, they going to make those values great again if they succeed in rigging in Biden. We all don't know what is Trump's final play but if has already made Biden and his niggers very uneasy. The longer Trump drags this out as well as projecting normalcy that he is still in charge, the better his odds of maybe crossing the Rubicon with little to no resistance. I believe the lolsuits are a smokescreen for backroom deals with the uncucked elements of the GOP as well as future plans for how to deal with the traitors.

This is my view on the other two superpowers of the world. China is probably cooming their pants right now at Beijing Biden almost getting there and Russia has basically been vindicated their propaganda that America is full of shit. The next time Russia rigs their own election because Putin doesn't like who his successor is, they will not care and use even stronger whataboutism while getting even more aggressive than ever before.

And I expect the globohomo cabal to strongly target Russia next since liberals have been paranoid of a group of white people that have literally no guilt or shame in what they do. Bill Maher's new rules segment on Russia gives a good understanding of why liberals suddenly went from Russia is a joke in 2012 to Russia oh shit in 2014. Its partly cultural and partly over Russia making big moves in their own backyard rather than being fully cuckolded in the 1990s. If Putin had Gorbachov and Yeltsin smothered in their beds in the 1990s and took power early after the Soviet Union fell, Serbia would have not had a single bomb dropped on them and Kosovo would not exist. Liberals love cuckolds both foreign and domestic. The hate for a potential uncucked GOP under Trump and the hate for a uncucked Russia that is trying to MAKE SOVIET UNION 2.0/RUSSIAN EMPIRE 2.0 GREAT AGAIN.

 

[Jarolleon]

Yes. I had gone into Weeb Wars with the belief that judges are kind of the "adult in the room" who would try to keep the system running.

Now I know the legal system is a horrible farce that borders on Kafkaesque when judges take their job as seriously as a stoned teenager.

I agree with all this. We need to rebuild our industrial base and we seemed to be doing better under Trump to accomplish that goal. (The local steel mill looks like it doubled in size. They built a whole new building that doubled their footprint.)

I've got friends who just got into blue collar jobs and they love those jobs because they get a sense of accomplishment from them.

Biden is going to shut that shit down. We can't have the peasants realizing a good days work can be more effective than a feel good pill.

How perverse that sounds. Any other society would want the "peasants" to be working! These people seem to think the world is like Civ 6, Stellaris, or The Hunger games where specializing vast regions of the world for specific industries actually works. Well, what do you expect from people whose foundational belief is "Everything is a social construct"?

 

[GenericReviewerDraco]

The book covers a lot and idk which part you want me to write about. Huxley is a genius for coming up with such a thought out world. Iirc technology is advanced enough that people don't need to work, but the government has people do anyway just so they have something to do. And there's also plenty of sensual entertainment and purposely contrived sports to keep people entertained. People are conditioned by birth and born in factories so they have no family to have loyalty to, just their class and the state.
A big part of the novel is when the main characters visit a Savage Reservation, sort of a native american reservation where people still have childbirth and experience pain and religion. Then some stuff about Shakespeare I didn't get when I read the book because I wasn't familiar with it. There are a bunch of plot points I forget but I've given you some background.

I'm sorta glad I got to read Brave New World in school. That Soma orgy and the ending will always disturb me.

 

[Stoneheart]

These people seem to think the world is like Civ 6, Stellaris, or The Hunger games where specializing vast regions of the world for specific industries actually works

Well thats how europe and asia works... spain is for getting drunk in the sun, poland is for low education labor, france is a tax write off, netherrealms are for food, etc.
there are good reasons why high tech industries are just around germany and not everywhere.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Well thats how europe and asia works... spain is for getting drunk in the sun, poland is for low education labor, france is a tax write off, netherrealms are for food, etc.
there are good reasons why high tech industries are just around germany and not everywhere.

Yeah because your fucking internal trade regulations, bullshit restrictions on national matters and control over external trade deals have absolutely assraped every other country into being a glorified kraut colony. You backstabbing cunts.

 

[GuntPunt]

I know this book is probably brought up way too much but one of my favorite reads is Brave New World. Control of the people is heavily dependent on soma, a feel good drug with no side effects, and also a government pseudo Christianity that lets people have spirituality without religion. Soma is "All the advantages of Christianity and alcohol; none of their defects." It is so powerful that any kind of worry or sadness can be remedied just by going on a hallucinageic "holiday". Nothing in life matters besides trivialities and people don't even fear death because they have been conditioned from birth to be content with everything. Anyway I don't want to write way too much about it but your comment just reminded me of the book which I reread every few years just because it's so interesting.

The book covers a lot and idk which part you want me to write about. Huxley is a genius for coming up with such a thought out world. Iirc technology is advanced enough that people don't need to work, but the government has people do anyway just so they have something to do. And there's also plenty of sensual entertainment and purposely contrived sports to keep people entertained. People are conditioned by birth and born in factories so they have no family to have loyalty to, just their class and the state.

I always thought that "we were being strapped into a Huxley scenerio but are being fussy with the harnesses." In simplier terms, the powers that control us are trying to masquerade us from a 1984 based control system to a half-assed Huxley one until the technology gets there to implement the real one.

You can see the parallels already. The US uses the most antidepressants of any country by population per million. Irreligious and consumerism has slowly taken the cultural consciousness since the 1970's, with reference to Jimmy Carter's Crisis of Confidence speech. The Democratic platform has essentially devolved to nuking the nuclear family unit. Unfavorable information has disclaimers to take you to the "fact checked" information. Not 100% one way or the other, but slowly incorporating Huxley-esce features and refining them.

Its not perfect yet, but with this supposed Great Reset, who knows what they are doing to consolidate their power. Probably whichever is more effective.

 

[Stoneheart]

Yeah because your fucking internal trade regulations, bullshit restrictions on national matters and control over external trade deals have absolutely assraped every other country into being a glorified kraut colony. You backstabbing cunts.

We invented all the stuff and we produce it. you guys invented Sangria and you try everything to not sell it.
You think people would buy Spanish cars if those mythical restrictions wouldnt exist?

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Its not perfect yet, but with this supposed Great Reset, who knows what they are doing to consolidate their power. Probably whichever is more effective.

Thankfully the great reset shit, at least here in europe, is gonna be wildly ineffective on that. I mean seriously idiots seem to be wasting their money on green energy subsidies. They've been financing bloody wind turbines and bicicle lanes here in Cadiz as of late... Now I like the turbines, we got a ton of wind and need energy, and I hate bicicles but they're good for tourism anyway, so I ain't gonna bitch but if they think that'll push their ideology. Well they're idiots. Specially 'cause Cadiz's already filled with nature conservationists due to how much money we make out of the parks and how much the climate change effect's on wind and farming have started to fuck us over. So they're preaching to the choir and wasting a lot of money at that.

We invented all the stuff and we produce it. you guys invented Sangria and you try everything to not sell it.
You think people would buy Spanish cars if those mythical restrictions wouldnt exist?

Not Cars. I mean maybe that could be indirectly helped but honestly I never gave a shit about fucking cars anyway. We need to better our train infrastructure already and that's not because of the EU it was our asshole king (the prior one not his useless son we got right now) that signed deals with the sauds to fuck that up. But were it not for the bullshit merkel's boys in black forced us to swallow during Rajoi's tenure bombarding our labor laws we wouldn't have had an absolutely cripling gig economy dropped on our laps.

Were it not for the anti-GMO bullshit Merkel helped France and the Netherlands push, we'd be exporting way more on that field. Seeing as how we're literally world leads on those accademic matters but have to keep making bullshit agreements with america and others to get that shit to the market.

Were it not for the EU's brazen sabotage of our farming and active torpedoing of the southern european food export through moroccan and south african trade deals we wouldn't have seen the sector plummet and unemployment rise drastically since we were forced to bend to that shit.

Were it not for the EU lawsuits against our use of national iron our mining industry would not be dying.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

Your assholes in charge have twisted and bent us every chance they got. And people sure have noticed.

 

[Jarolleon]

I always thought that "we were being strapped into a Huxley scenerio but are being fussy with the harnesses." In simplier terms, the powers that control us are trying to masquerade us from a 1984 based control system to a half-assed Huxley one until the technology gets there to implement the real one.

You can see the parallels already. The US uses the most antidepressants of any country by population per million. Irreligious and consumerism has slowly taken the cultural consciousness since the 1970's, with reference to Jimmy Carter's Crisis of Confidence speech. The Democratic platform has essentially devolved to nuking the nuclear family unit. Unfavorable information has disclaimers to take you to the "fact checked" information. Not 100% one way or the other, but slowly incorporating Huxley-esce features and refining them.

Its not perfect yet, but with this supposed Great Reset, who knows what they are doing to consolidate their power. Probably whichever is more effective.

Well that's what you get when you found a country on Calvinism-inspired black-and-white thinking, and then bombard the populace with all the bad shit that's happening in the world 24/7, while convincing them that they could prevent all of it. Hell, all this authoritarian bullshit is likely fuelled partly by rich people reacting to this very impulse.

You could end up with some medieval China style bullshit where bureaucrats chosen on the "merit" of memorizing Confucius stagnated the country for centuries, except with the whole Earth and Confucius swapped with whatever woke bullshit ends up having staying power. That would require globohomo to effectively fuse all the cultures though, in a similar way to how so much of China is Han. Not sure what a space age Century of Humiliation would look like, or if we'd even have a military by then. Maybe we'll just sit there, stagnant, until the sun explodes, because FTL travel really is impossible and therefore aliens could never reach us.

The past 500 years has been quite the anomaly, usually technology moves extremely slowly because one dominant social group has stomped out any internal competition that doesn't involve political intrigue. Maybe wokeness is helped by a collective Uncle Ted-esque feeling that we're going too fast, and it's time to hit the brakes before we build ourselves a world that's so alien that our monkey brains will never be able to handle it, and most people know on some level which group of people is to "blame" for this state of affairs. So they get this impulse to bring the people who caused all this to heel, to make them hate themselves for their own success, so the rest have an easier time adapting (or just end up with gibs).

 

[Garm]

How perverse that sounds. Any other society would want the "peasants" to be working! These people seem to think the world is like Civ 6, Stellaris, or The Hunger games where specializing vast regions of the world for specific industries actually works. Well, what do you expect from people whose foundational belief is "Everything is a social construct"?

Because blue collar work requires independent thought and problem solving. Producing something leads to confidence that they don't need someone to tell them what to do. That they don't need some central authority to tell them how to do something.

And that makes people harder to control. You don't have to regulate weapons if you remove the will to use them, catch my drift?

I always thought that "we were being strapped into a Huxley scenerio but are being fussy with the harnesses." In simplier terms, the powers that control us are trying to masquerade us from a 1984 based control system to a half-assed Huxley one until the technology gets there to implement the real one.

You can see the parallels already. The US uses the most antidepressants of any country by population per million. Irreligious and consumerism has slowly taken the cultural consciousness since the 1970's, with reference to Jimmy Carter's Crisis of Confidence speech. The Democratic platform has essentially devolved to nuking the nuclear family unit. Unfavorable information has disclaimers to take you to the "fact checked" information. Not 100% one way or the other, but slowly incorporating Huxley-esce features and refining them.

Its not perfect yet, but with this supposed Great Reset, who knows what they are doing to consolidate their power. Probably whichever is more effective.

I was thinking on this and you are probably more correct than we realize. That the brainwashing is deep and been occuring for a long time.

When was the last time a blue collar job was shown to have dignity on TV? Most Blue collar people are "ignorant, uneducated types" that the hero has to show up and "educate" them. So people avoid blue collar jobs because they think they are hard. They are dirty. The people who do them are "the wrong kind of people" to emulate.

Think about all the hobbies people have abandoned because of SJW garbage. People are going to be hesitant to pick up books because they will be afraid it will be a waste of time.

The conditioning has been going on for a long time now.

 

[alreadyhome]

Well that's what you get when you found a country on Calvinism-inspired black-and-white thinking, and then bombard the populace with all the bad shit that's happening in the world 24/7, while convincing them that they could prevent all of it. Hell, all this authoritarian bullshit is likely fuelled partly by rich people reacting to this very impulse.

You could end up with some medieval China style bullshit where bureaucrats chosen on the "merit" of memorizing Confucius stagnated the country for centuries, except with the whole Earth and Confucius swapped with whatever woke bullshit ends up having staying power. That would require globohomo to effectively fuse all the cultures though, in a similar way to how so much of China is Han. Not sure what a space age Century of Humiliation would look like, or if we'd even have a military by then. Maybe we'll just sit there, stagnant, until the sun explodes, because FTL travel really is impossible and therefore aliens could never reach us.

Imagine thinking being a Calvinist was about personal discipline and spiritual strength. It makes me sick.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Haven't seen it mentioned yet, but Andrew Yang has announced he's moving to Georgia to help Democrats with Senate runoffs.

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He can't technically vote in the GA runoff election because he just decided to do it suddenly. More fuckery afoot of the CCP variety I guess.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/andrew-yang-announces-move-to-georgia-to-help-democrats-with-senate-runoffs

It's very simple actually: Trump is out, we're witnessing the failings of a fish out of water, and since the demon makes the most noise before he's exorcised, the Democrats can leave the final blow to their specialists while they go all in on the GA runoffs which will cause them to have all the stuff they need to go out and pursue their pet projects with little blowback.

If she's lying, won't she get sued to hell once this is all over?
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Well, there's a good chance she's going to be sued and forced to face the music anyway since she dared to represent Donald Trump and actually bothered to put up an actual fight for his client.

Yes, because China benefits from America being full of baizuos.

Some juicy TDS in the comments:
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Well, we now know what one EO will be in order to capatalize on the base that got him in: bringing back the internment camps FDR made that gave blanket reasons to round up those deemed as a threat to the country. Add all the other shit about reeducation, killing those who can't be saved, taking away voting privileges until dissidents can be shown to conform and be buying what is sold, and only releasing once they're assured the inmates can be proven to be a positive force, and executing Executive Order 9066 will be seen as child's play compared to what the MAGA crowd will be doomed to face.

Release the Kraken.

Conservative lawyers making a catchy meme phrase seems to be a new trend. But enough of these Weeb Wars comparisons. These are two separate shitshows that should never collide, ever.

So she’ll have a strong case that would otherwise win if the judge is not a retard?

Isn’t that what everyone assumed from the start?

If you want to talk about Weeb Wars and anime colliding with the Trump era, you could say that these paths crossed a long time ago.

I agree with all this. We need to rebuild our industrial base and we seemed to be doing better under Trump to accomplish that goal. (The local steel mill looks like it doubled in size. They built a whole new building that doubled their footprint.)

I've got friends who just got into blue collar jobs and they love those jobs because they get a sense of accomplishment from them.

Biden is going to shut that shit down. We can't have the peasants realizing a good days work can be more effective than a feel good pill.

The book covers a lot and idk which part you want me to write about. Huxley is a genius for coming up with such a thought out world. Iirc technology is advanced enough that people don't need to work, but the government has people do anyway just so they have something to do. And there's also plenty of sensual entertainment and purposely contrived sports to keep people entertained. People are conditioned by birth and born in factories so they have no family to have loyalty to, just their class and the state.
A big part of the novel is when the main characters visit a Savage Reservation, sort of a native american reservation where people still have childbirth and experience pain and religion. Then some stuff about Shakespeare I didn't get when I read the book because I wasn't familiar with it. There are a bunch of plot points I forget but I've given you some background.

How perverse that sounds. Any other society would want the "peasants" to be working! These people seem to think the world is like Civ 6, Stellaris, or The Hunger games where specializing vast regions of the world for specific industries actually works. Well, what do you expect from people whose foundational belief is "Everything is a social construct"?

I always thought that "we were being strapped into a Huxley scenerio but are being fussy with the harnesses." In simplier terms, the powers that control us are trying to masquerade us from a 1984 based control system to a half-assed Huxley one until the technology gets there to implement the real one.

You can see the parallels already. The US uses the most antidepressants of any country by population per million. Irreligious and consumerism has slowly taken the cultural consciousness since the 1970's, with reference to Jimmy Carter's Crisis of Confidence speech. The Democratic platform has essentially devolved to nuking the nuclear family unit. Unfavorable information has disclaimers to take you to the "fact checked" information. Not 100% one way or the other, but slowly incorporating Huxley-esce features and refining them.

Its not perfect yet, but with this supposed Great Reset, who knows what they are doing to consolidate their power. Probably whichever is more effective.

From what I've seen, the left REALLY seems to be convinced of the notion that everyone knows their place, will stay in their place, and once that happens, we'll reach utopia. Anything that causes utopia to not be reached once something is established, which some will say is the work of things like "reality" or "human nature", is seen as something that'd brick a computer. (remember when people in CHAZ were shocked that some guy came around and started running the place like a warlord after a few days?). Once the Democrats get everything they need and deal with the Trump situation once and for all, they'll move to create their utopia, and anything and everything done by the government will be dedicated to reaching the utopia at a faster rate.

You don't have to regulate weapons if you remove the will to use them, catch my drift?

Are you talking how the left wants to bring guns that won't fire in the hands of someone deemed to be a "red flag" or someone deemed to be not allowed to use a firearm by the law? Because that's what Judge Dredd uses.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Are you talking how the left wants to bring guns that won't fire in the hands of someone deemed to be a "red flag" or someone deemed to be not allowed to use a firearm by the law? Because that's what Judge Dredd uses.

No. They are saying if you break someone's will to fight you don't need to care about their access to weapons. They will not use them even if they can.

 

[Bungus Scrungus]

Are we there yet? Anything noteworthy, or is it still the same?

 

[GenericReviewerDraco]

Are we there yet? Anything noteworthy, or is it still the same?

Same as always. I think Trump is overall boned, but it seems like various lefties are scared shitless.

 

[Tomboy Respecter]

Are we there yet? Anything noteworthy, or is it still the same?

We're going to have to wait until the Monday after the next for any court happenings, at the very least. I'd at least wait until Monday to catch up with the thread since it is the weekend.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Are we there yet? Anything noteworthy, or is it still the same?

One noteworthy thing that I'm hearing on twitter that hasn't really been discussed in this thread is Dominion's corporate leadership has apparently gone DFE. Going protected or nuking twitter accounts, hiding their profiles on Linkedin, etc etc.

Combine this with them refusing to testify and going media blackout, and suddenly that talk about a server being raided, Dominion's manuals blatantly talking about how to modify vote counts, and Middle Managers going full on ORANGEMANBAD in public makes me think there's more there than we thought -- and honestly I already thought there was something big there.

 

[Dogfacefuke]

When was the last time a blue collar job was shown to have dignity on TV? Most Blue collar people are "ignorant, uneducated types" that the hero has to show up and "educate" them. So people avoid blue collar jobs because they think they are hard. They are dirty. The people who do them are "the wrong kind of people" to emulate.

The sad thing is blue collar workers are the most diverse of the bunch. It's the weird academic freaks who never had a real job that develop this weird hyper sensitivity to race relations.

The rest of us are standing there in the kitchen or construction yard, like a scene right off the Star Trek bridge, asking ourselves "what the fuck are you people talking about??"