2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[ChikN10der]

I'm not saying that there isn't evidence, though. As it stands, though, while the evidence that we do have may be worthy of further discovery, Trump's lawyers can't get to discovery because they can't establish their standing in the case in the face of a motion to dismiss, and they can't make the case that the relief they seek is appropriate in the first place.

That's the issue, isn't it? They suck.


How do you determine credible testimony without vetting them in cross examination?

How do you get to cross examination when you're being blocked on standing?

So the evidence doesn't count until cross examination, and cross examination can't happen without a trial, but a trial can't happen without the evidence produced by the cross examination?

Your take is evidence is a catch 22 and that's legitimate?

Lower courts saying they don't have standing is expected. What the pa sc says is irrelevant, they're the ones the trump campaign is trying to get the scotus to overturn.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Look I am not saying anything definitively, but it would be something for there to be a bombshell today with Trump being at this hearing at Gettysburg of all places.
This current administration to me isn't acting like one that knows it's on the way out the door by trying to ram through as much as possible in the lame duck period.
Watching with keen interest.

Nah we're due for boring shit again.

 

[murdered meat bag]

Look I am not saying anything definitively, but it would be something for there to be a bombshell today with Trump being at this hearing at Gettysburg of all places.
This current administration to me isn't acting like one that knows it's on the way out the door by trying to ram through as much as possible in the lame duck period.
Watching with keen interest.

democrats flood courts with lawsuits all the time. The gope would do the same but that's not honorable.

Nah we're due for boring shit again.

its thanksgiving weekend, the courts aren't doing anything. BUT the media will spend all week going over every word.

 

[CrystalHead]

Look I am not saying anything definitively, but it would be something for there to be a bombshell today with Trump being at this hearing at Gettysburg of all places.
This current administration to me isn't acting like one that knows it's on the way out the door by trying to ram through as much as possible in the lame duck period.
Watching with keen interest.

I don't wanna get my hopes up. But considering how much Trump compares himself to Lincoln I'm intrigued by Gettysburg being the location and that makes me think there might be something big for the sake of symbolism.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

So the evidence doesn't count until cross examination, and cross examination can't happen without a trial, but a trial can't happen without the evidence produced by the cross examination?

Cross examination doesn't produce evidence. It puts witness testimony under scrutiny.

Lower courts saying they don't have standing is expected. What the pa sc says is irrelevant, they're the ones the trump campaign is trying to get the scotus to overturn.

Depending on the charge, what the PASC says may be final-- the SCOTUS isn't likely to rule on PA law unless said PA law contradicts the federal constitution.

The gope would do the same but that's not honorable.

It's not that they won't do it because it's not honorable, or whatever-- it's that they're allergic to fighting, winning, and collective effort, on top of not being as clever.

 

[murdered meat bag]

Depending on the charge, what the PASC says may be final-- the SCOTUS isn't likely to rule on PA law unless said PA law contradicts the federal constitution in a way where the federal constitution would have bearing.


It's not that they won't do it because it's not honorable, or whatever-- it's that they're allergic to fighting, winning, and collective effort, on top of not being as clever.

SCOTUS can't rule that PASC didn't follow its own constitution regarding the late ballots, or extension of ballot reception?

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Keep in mind, the amount of credible affidavits produced would be easy enough to get a guilty plea for a murder charge, let alone another crime.

90% of admitted evidence is testimony.

Scott Adams asked the question 'What would you do if all the affidavits turned out to be from crazy people and were obviously untrue?' and then gradually wheeled round to 'Is it possible for fraud to have changed the result of the election and for their to be no witnesses willing to come forward?'

And the thing is answer to the latter question is 'Yes'. E.g. if you look at these graphs of votes



What happened is that they obviously did one ballot dump late at night to swing things. Now if you think about how this would happen you'd have a bunch of criminals making the ballots. They're not going to be witnesses. You've got a couple of people to dump those in with the regular ballots. They're not going to be witnesses. And then you've got the people counting ballots who probably don't know anything is wrong.

So it's quite possible that there was fraud but all the affidavits are from crazy people, or from Democrat trolls putting false information in to try to discredit the allegations that the election was fraudulent.

Incidentally, I remember on one of Gorka's shows some woman called in and claimed Republicans had been told to park in one car park and Democrats in another. She'd heard it from a friend of a friend and that friend had no photographic evidence. Gorka obviously sensed this was bullshit and asked her for evidence and told her if she had any to pass it to the state-level Republican party but also pointed out that if she didn't have evidence it's unlikely anything can be done. So that seems like a classic example of the sort of person who'd file a false affidavit for attention and because they're frankly a lolcow.

Then again we know Republicans were excluded from observing. A lot of the affidavits will be from them and those are genuine.

I suspect the media will pick up on the ones from the crazies and trolls and not mention the ones which are genuine as this process goes forward.

Ignore that. You only need to look at those graphs and read about the 1960 election to know what happened here. Also, this article in the Federalist (archive) makes it pretty clear with the use of irony that this election was bogus.

 

[ChikN10der]

Cross examination doesn't produce evidence. It puts witness testimony under scrutiny.


Depending on the charge, what the PASC says may be final-- the SCOTUS isn't likely to rule on PA law unless said PA law contradicts the federal constitution in a way where the federal constitution would have bearing.

Lol you really have no clue do you? Why do you think Alito ordered them to put all those ballots aside? Like holy shit yeah, the sc will only intervene if the pa sc was off base, that's already established. When they changed pa election law to go against what the legislature (the one group empowered by the constitution to make election law) had established, they went against the constitution.

 

[All becomes gunt]

So anything happened ?

 

[Sekirodiealot]

Dude, women aren't going to look up to a slut who used her body to get political favors. My dad's Millennial, Hispanic, Trump hating girlfriend doesn't even like Kamala Harris. In fact she hated Kamala Harris so much that she voted for Trump. This fantasy world where anyone but white liberal women who scream, "YAAAAASSSS QWUEEEEN!" Are enthusiastic for her is incredibly retarded.

You want to give women a real role model? Find someone that didn't get where she is by sucking dick and using a man she accused of being a sexual abuser as a trojan horse to get in the White House. I was perfectly willing to believe everything you said up until that. I could at least see your point of view. But here you have to be joking. You have to be doing this ironically.

You know, i wonder how true it is about kamala sleeping her way up. I've been seeing that thrown around the farms. I would love to know since TDS folks slut shames manlia over her past modeling photos

 

[axfaxf]

What’s the point?

they're children.

 

[Shroom King]

Actually it's because of America. No I'm not kidding. Outside of America meat is usually bought using the metric system. But while hot dogs weren't quite invented in America they were certainly popularized by Americans and as a result INDUSTRIALIZED in America. And in America the meat is bought by the pound. And 10 hot dogs usually weight about 1 pound. Hence that standard.

Buns on the other hand come in packs of 8 because the machines used to create them industrially were made before the hot dog (Buns like those are used for plenty of other foods, by filling them with seafoods or minced meat and veggies, specially in America but also in fairs around the world. Indeed the tradition seems to come from Mexico although the original and usual food tends to use normal bread.) and uses trays of 4. Which was decided due to the usual size of conveyor belts at the time and the width of the buns. And changing that to 5 would require changing the whole damned production line due to the importance of a standard volume. Meaning changing that would require a very large amount of investment with no added benefit. So they said fuck it you get 2 extra frankfurts we don't give a shit. And they kept not giving a shit until this very day.

This post is why this is the best website on the internet. GODSPEED, GOD SIR!

 

[XYZpdq]

What if it was a typo and she was supposed to say she's releasing the Karen

 

[iRON-mAn]

We need some good pictures of these wristbands because in 100 years people need to know. They need to know the clown world year we've lived.

I'm not sure if this is more or less horrifying than the original.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

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I'm not sure if this is more or less horrifying than the original.

It should be just as horrifying, but it's in German.

 

[iRON-mAn]

It should be just as horrifying, but it's in German.

Actually I wasn't sure if people would get the reference if it wasn't in German.

 

[GuntPunt]

How do you determine credible testimony without vetting them in cross examination?

How do you get to cross examination when you're being blocked on standing?

There's several ways, but the easiest would probably be an alibi close to the supposed event.

 

[LurkTrawl]

What happened is that they obviously did one ballot dump late at night to swing things. Now if you think about how this would happen you'd have a bunch of criminals making the ballots. They're not going to be witnesses. You've got a couple of people to dump those in with the regular ballots. They're not going to be witnesses. And then you've got the people counting ballots who probably don't know anything is wrong

You also have a lot of people who are okay with obvious voter fraud because it's a "victory" against those who they see as an enemy. An entire army of brainwashed retards who think themselves intelligent. These are the people who consigned us to whatever happens next.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

There's several ways, but the easiest would probably be an alibi close to the supposed event.

Which still gets tested in a cross examination.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Quick run down from what I know

Nevada: A judge in Carlson City is giving Trump's campaign a chance to argue their case for Nevada

Wisconsin: Recount's still going ahead with alot of ballots being taken aside. I'm personally expecting a shit show to break out over this recount what with the amount of ballots being picked up, the pexiglass and the poo emoji armbands.

Georgia: I haven't heard much about in the past 24 hours before it was supposed to start a second recount yesterday supposedly with signaturing auditing. Apparently Kemp is getting pressure from both within and outside of Georgia.

Michigan: Barnes seems to be optimistic about an audit being triggered. I think it's one to watch.

Pennslyvania: There's something going down today with the republican state legislature and a press conference with both Rudy and Trump himself.

And Arizona seems to have vanished off the face of the Earth.

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Personally I'm waiting for the press conference in PA and then I'm gonna TRY to take a break from the thread. Between following this and personal stuff I'm feeling pretty drained.

Thanks so much. Hope you get some rest and a nice Thanksgiving after the traditional press conference sperging, we could all use some TLC for ourselves.