Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

Helping those guys didn't work out great.

Egos are tough. Having to play second fiddle to me when you're pretty sure that you're a waaaay better artist than I am has got to be rough. You start to invent justifications for your bitterness. "He's just an e-celeb. I'm a REAL comic book creator!"

Rejecting my help, trying to do it without me and realizing that your success was my success all along has broken a few Smiller types in the past two years. And I get it.

Resentment grows, and everyone wants to take me down.

Smart people just work with me. I don't mean any ComicsGaters any harm, and it does make me happy to see people that I've helped making lots of money on their campaigns. All of this really is just about creating a marketing engine for indie creators to sell their comics. I'm happy to work with people who don't have emotional disorders and jealous complexes. Let's just make some money.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you another reason why these culture wars are retarded and what not to act like if you're going the anti-SJW route. Meet Andrew, an autist who's mostly on the fandom menace side of the internet, but he's not any different from some of the more hardcore cg/gg/weebwars lunatics you run into. He writes for Bounding into Comics, with such thought provoking articles as seen below.

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Archives:
Abortion story: https://archive.md/GAqIv
Star trek archive: https://archive.md/xctCg


Compelling stuff. Now we'll get into what Drew was doing to draw attention to himself. Apart from writing shitty articles for Bounding into Comics and making super smert tweets, he had quite a showdown with Testefy HD. Pretty sure there's a good bit too it but you can witness the spectacle through the lulz of this video. Pretty sure there's more to this beef, if Testefy wants to post more about it, that's up to him, or he can dm me stuff to add to this post.




Riveting shit. After this slap fight with Testefy, YouTube accounts would pop up and begin spamming stream chats in the CG sphere. Not just Testefy's streams, but others, including Oz Arts and everyone's psychotic orange koala retard, Liam Gray. The most recent as of this post was him shitting up Nasser's stream with a fake Jazz Crab account, then returning with an additional one almost immediately after it was banned.



Now I can't prove that this is, in fact, Drew Taylor running these accounts. But it's widely believed to be him and there's been no rebuttle out of Drew himself anywhere else or the accounts themselves when the accusations are made. Considering the all around faggotry displayed, I believe this is indeed Drew. When looking at his social media and his Bounding articles, he does come off as an uncreative retard who thinks being a spamfag in a chat is a good way to troll.

It's become quite clear over the past several months that our sweet lil Andrew here is a bit of an attention whore. Congratulations, Drew. Enjoy your fame.




Archives of said social media:
Bounding into Comics Archive: http://archive.md/hZWhd
DrewT twitter Archive: http://archive.md/JIAHX
YouTube Archive:
Steam Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20201123165145/https://steamcommu
Twitch Archive: https://archive.md/zA8Af
Streamelement Archive: https://archive.md/FtN0i

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Law and Order: Criminal Lulz

Andrew here isn't what we'd call a convict or a hardened criminal. Kiwi Farms has seen more embarrassing and fucked up crimes. But boys and girls, this mother fucker can't drive his way out of a nutsack. Also, he clearly shouldn't be caring for any animals whatsoever. And he might be a little bad with money or maybe just hard times as he's filed for bankruptcy.


TLDR:

Drew T is another journo fag but he's not your typical liberal retard. He's just on the other side of the fence but he isn't really better. Writes about dumb or boring shit. I didn't dig to deep into his Twitter, most of it was him trying to own SJW's, which was interrupted by him simping for some chick on that Twilight show or whatever gayness was going on. I guess Testefy got him ass mad enough he had to go around shitting up stream live chats like it was his purpose in life. All of the mentioned retardation is what got him his spot in this post and an addition to the doxes in this fantastic culture war shit.


Update to my dox of Fandom Menace and War Campaign Gigafaggot Andrew Taylor. He has another account where he has proceeded to chimp the fuck out over his doxing. The most lulzy part is he has been doing his best to blame this shit all on @TESTEFY-HD. I knew Drew was mentally deficient, but he's at least providing me with some lulz.

Account in question:
Archive: https://archive.is/wip/j8Vpt

I'm not archiving all of his tweets, he follows Testefy around with a hate boner on Twitter, doing his best to hump his leg. I'm becoming convinced this retard has a poster of Testefy on his bedroom ceiling that he masturbates to at night while he cries tears of rage. I archived a few tweets where he's fairly certain Testefy is the one that got him.

Archive: https://archive.is/vcK8d

Archive: https://archive.is/PihWE


I'm more than certain this account is Drew. Mostly due to the fact of the shear rage this account exhibits over the dox, and I can't imagine anyone but himself going so far to stick up for the flailing helmet kid. He was last seen on YouTube on this lady's stream with Dark Grift and some other guy. I don't really know these people, and have nothing against them, Drew's presence on this stream was brought to my attention.



The name was similar to the twitter account, same pfp, and the same retarded style of spamfagging that he's known for. The mods however actually did their duty and timed his ass out, and that was somewhat unfortunate, as I wasn't able to cap his latest flavor of autism before it was deleted. The last thing I caught before his shit went down was demanding others stick up for Drew. If anyone can help me confirm or better yet, managed to take some screens, I will love you forever in the anus.

TLDR: Drew is assblasted about his dox. I'm just a little offended he's chimping at Testefy about it, but not too much, because it's lulzy either way. He's been going on a rampage on Twitter, and most recently a stream with what I assume are cg/fandom menace folks to cry about the dox further. Just further proof that CG and FM, while having good intentions, is full of autists who were allowed to sniff too many paint fumes as children. Especially our boy Drew, because god damn is he dumb.

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Looks like from those tweets he's a Warcampaigner too? As if being a colossal faggot shitting up Youtube chats with spam wasn't bad enough.
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Oh and nice work on his dox @Booty Warrior of Light, I haven't really seen you around this thread before but it's always good to have more doxers join us. Welcome to the party.
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In a attempt to placate his fans it appears Frog has made last nights stream public again. However he has chopped off the last 15 minutes or so, resulting in utter confusion from his comments section who are wondering how they didn't get notified for a stream that happened 22 hours ago (and why part of it is now missing). To be fair, he's stuck in a catch 22 because if he keeps it private he gets hounded on twitter and if he puts it back up in full youtube might come down on him. Not sure why he doesn't just use a second channel like people have been telling him to do for years.
He did make a 2nd channel but no one really subbed to it so I think he pulled it. It was around the nerkish stuff. He claimed he was leaving cg I forget what he named it.
 
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Happier times I guess.

"This is how we win."

Political comics were totally CG in June. But by July...

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Let me draw a distinction for you between "winning" at the culture war by making a character like Donald Trump more accessible to children when SJWs are presenting him as a monster

VS.

Building up an alternative comics industry that rejects SJWs while the mainstream is failing in large part due to it's partisan attitudes.

They're both worthy goals. I want both things to happen, but I'd rather devote my energy to making stuff for EVERYONE rather than just TRUMP SUPPORTERS.

I had no use for or interest in Tim Lim. He seemed like a small press guy who had a clever idea with a childrens book about Trump as a rabbit. Cool, but off my radar. I treated him cordially when we'd briefly interacted, and was excited for his success.

Our paths collided when I said that Chuck Dixon was wasting his time making Trump books when he could be creating characters like Bane that might stand the test of time, while owning them and making a real difference with ComicsGate, and Tim took that personally. That's when he showed up on my radar, representing a slew of unknown indie creators who were mad that I wasn't including them in my plans. That's when problems arose.

I don't pay close enough attention to the gay ops, but apparently he ran a full time hate campaign against me on Facebook which peeled away quite a few fans and still lingers. It was weird, he is weird, and fuck that guy.
 
Let me draw a distinction for you between "winning" at the culture war by making a character like Donald Trump more accessible to children when SJWs are presenting him as a monster

VS.

Building up an alternative comics industry that rejects SJWs while the mainstream is failing in large part due to it's partisan attitudes.

They're both worthy goals. I want both things to happen, but I'd rather devote my energy to making stuff for EVERYONE rather than just TRUMP SUPPORTERS.

I had no use for or interest in Tim Lim. He seemed like a small press guy who had a clever idea with a childrens book about Trump as a rabbit. Cool, but off my radar. I treated him cordially when we'd briefly interacted, and was excited for his success.

Our paths collided when I said that Chuck Dixon was wasting his time making Trump books when he could be creating characters like Bane that might stand the test of time, while owning them and making a real difference with ComicsGate, and Tim took that personally. That's when he showed up on my radar, representing a slew of unknown indie creators who were mad that I wasn't including them in my plans. That's when problems arose.

I don't pay close enough attention to the gay ops, but apparently he ran a full time hate campaign against me on Facebook which peeled away quite a few fans and still lingers. It was weird, he is weird, and fuck that guy.

Cool story. Yeah, things changed a lot between June and July 2018.
 
Mitch invited Ethan to come down and take part in the meetings with WalMart.

Mitch was under the mistaken impression that Ethan would partner up with him using his CyberFrog property to help leverage a sweet deal with the retail giant. Ethan had a bigger name and a sooper successful crowd funder that he let Mitch think was in play.

Ethan let him think that because he wanted to make the contact with WalMart I presume. It never hurts to have a relationship with the biggest retail store chain in the known universe.

Ethan attended the meetings to make the contacts and then pulled the rug out from under Mitch leaving him high and dry without leverage while dealing with the most cut throat negotiators in all of retail. CyberFrog was never on the table.

Mitch couldn't even bitch about it because he needed Ethan's support to keep the crowdfunding end of his venture solvent and finance his new business on the back of Red Rooster's campaign.

Strangely, after the trip to Arkansas things noticeably cooled between the Bitchweisers and EVS.

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Edit: I'm curious @FROG. What did your wife's boyfriend do for a living when she dumped you?
To be fair, negotiating for something while having no control over your major selling point (Cyberfrog) is even dumber than anything else we know Mitch did.
 

Helping those guys didn't work out great.

Egos are tough. Having to play second fiddle to me when you're pretty sure that you're a waaaay better artist than I am has got to be rough. You start to invent justifications for your bitterness. "He's just an e-celeb. I'm a REAL comic book creator!"

Rejecting my help, trying to do it without me and realizing that your success was my success all along has broken a few Smiller types in the past two years. And I get it.

Resentment grows, and everyone wants to take me down.

Smart people just work with me. I don't mean any ComicsGaters any harm, and it does make me happy to see people that I've helped making lots of money on their campaigns. All of this really is just about creating a marketing engine for indie creators to sell their comics. I'm happy to work with people who don't have emotional disorders and jealous complexes. Let's just make some money.

Assuming that someone is not 'smart' because they disagree with you or how you run things is the kind of reaction that should be reserved for SJW's. Conservatives understand that people can disagree without it being about intelligence, but about perspective and priority.

Smiller clearly doesn't want to work with you. Because he's dumb? Not likely. Because you spent a year or so calling him a liar, a thief, an embezzler, saying that his wife 'steps out on him', and whatever myriad other accusations you threw at him "because Fuck Mike S. Miller", amiright?

Even though he said he forgave you, he would be an idiot to come waltzing back into your party when you've turned your entire fanbase against him trying to paint him as worse than Hitler all this time. Mr. Biggons was just the tip of that spear. Sketch (needs) Therapy and a majority of your fans BELIEVE all the lies you told about him.

And you think he's 'stupid' for not wanting to wade into that swamp?

Think a little deeper, frog. You're not stupid enough to think that. Unless your hubris is clouding your judgment, which I admit could be the case.
 
Helping those guys didn't work out great.

Egos are tough. Having to play second fiddle to me when you're pretty sure that you're a waaaay better artist than I am has got to be rough. You start to invent justifications for your bitterness. "He's just an e-celeb. I'm a REAL comic book creator!"

Rejecting my help, trying to do it without me and realizing that your success was my success all along has broken a few Smiller types in the past two years. And I get it.

Resentment grows, and everyone wants to take me down.

Smart people just work with me. I don't mean any ComicsGaters any harm, and it does make me happy to see people that I've helped making lots of money on their campaigns. All of this really is just about creating a marketing engine for indie creators to sell their comics. I'm happy to work with people who don't have emotional disorders and jealous complexes. Let's just make some money.

Assuming that someone is not 'smart' because they disagree with you or how you run things is the kind of reaction that should be reserved for SJW's. Conservatives understand that people can disagree without it being about intelligence, but about perspective and priority.

Smiller clearly doesn't want to work with you. Because he's dumb? Not likely. Because you spent a year or so calling him a liar, a thief, an embezzler, saying that his wife 'steps out on him', and whatever myriad other accusations you threw at him "because Fuck Mike S. Miller", amiright?

Even though he said he forgave you, he would be an idiot to come waltzing back into your party when you've turned your entire fanbase against him trying to paint him as worse than Hitler all this time. Mr. Biggons was just the tip of that spear. Sketch (needs) Therapy and a majority of your fans BELIEVE all the lies you told about him.

And you think he's 'stupid' for not wanting to wade into that swamp?

Think a little deeper, frog. You're not stupid enough to think that. Unless your hubris is clouding your judgment, which I admit could be the case.
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I didn't say one thing that wasn't true about Smiller, and he knows it. He doesn't deny it. That's why when he complains about how I did him wrong, he only seethes about being called "anti-ComicsGate." That's the Big Lie that Mike always refers to, and it's a distraction. It's my opinion of him, and it's irrelevant.

Mike caused all of his own problems.

If he were smart, he'd work towards making amends and rejoining the cast, but Mike still has one or two cards left to play before he must let go of his pride.

In the meantime, I agree with you, he shouldn't come back on my show. It wasn't hubris clouding my judgment, it was sentimentality. We're over it.
 
Assuming that someone is not 'smart' because they disagree with you or how you run things is the kind of reaction that should be reserved for SJW's. Conservatives understand that people can disagree without it being about intelligence, but about perspective and priority.

Smiller clearly doesn't want to work with you. Because he's dumb? Not likely. Because you spent a year or so calling him a liar, a thief, an embezzler, saying that his wife 'steps out on him', and whatever myriad other accusations you threw at him "because Fuck Mike S. Miller", amiright?

Even though he said he forgave you, he would be an idiot to come waltzing back into your party when you've turned your entire fanbase against him trying to paint him as worse than Hitler all this time. Mr. Biggons was just the tip of that spear. Sketch (needs) Therapy and a majority of your fans BELIEVE all the lies you told about him.

And you think he's 'stupid' for not wanting to wade into that swamp?

Think a little deeper, frog. You're not stupid enough to think that. Unless your hubris is clouding your judgment, which I admit could be the case.
He also said comments about mike burning a comic how it was child abuse because the little boy claimed it was his and a war profiteering for having a tier to give a comic to a soldier.
 
By "Star Wars videos," I mean short videos that talk about whatever gossip bullshit is happening in pop culture. My Dan Slott Marvel 616 video is doing great...over 60,000 views.

On the other hand, I did a Star Wars toy review yesterday, which while appreciated by my longtime subs, hasn't hit 10K views yet. And I did a Mandalorian based article this morning which is also doing okay, but is obviously less interesting to people than the Death of Comics videos that I've started to offer. Those videos about DC people getting fired, or Marvel fucking up, do 20-30K views.

I'm looking for a subject that regularly will get 50-100K views, and I'll stumble across it eventually and beat it to death. It's a game. As long as I'm enjoying it, I'm happy to play it.

Congrats on getting back up to 132K. However I must offer my condolences about the poor performance of your pie-hunter video. Alas, it seems your true life goal, to become the Daym Drops of pie consumption on YouTube, must remain on the backburner at this time.

I wondered about the 50K+ video thing, and was interested to find these top videos on the Draftsmen podcast channel:
  • Don't Go To Art School! Here's Why [70K]
  • DIY Art School Part 1 [50K]
Draftsmen is a relatively new (2019ish) spinoff of the much bigger Proko art/anatomy instruction channel. Draftsmen focuses more generally on art and storytelling subjects, but with barely any attention paid to comics or manga, strangely.

I thought you might find their top-viewed videos interesting, since you're a successful pro that didn't go to art school.

Then I got more interested looking at @NasserRabadi13's top two videos, which are:
  • What I learned from self-publishing my own comic book [12K]
  • Big mistake inexperienced comic book writers make [8K]
It seems like there is a demand for advice videos for indie self-starters in comics, both in art and writing. This would seem like the ideal topic for Comicsgate in its current phase, having evolved from an establishment-criticism focus to one of creator-owned self-publishing.

But looking at Comicsgate content in general, there seems to be a problem in the supply that possibly arises from a focus on streaming over making shorter, digestible, edited videos.

For example, Smiller has a backup channel that he's using to stream during the Orange Terror, Mike Draws Comics, a channel so dead that his recent 'Controversy! Drama!' video has instantly shot to the top spot with only 500 views. He has a ton of piecemeal instructional videos on various comic art topics, longer inking videos etc, but they're all sub-500 views.

Meanwhile Narwhal and Preston Poulter also stream 'process', Narwhal with brainstorming collaboration videos and Poulter with his writers' room, but they get very low viewership.

I think there's a lot of valuable content in CG that gets lost in the bushes, because the signal-to-noise ratio is too low with streaming.

There's a disconnect or gap between the viewers, who want tight informative videos oriented to their needs, and lazy streamers, for whom making content is just turning on the camera while they get some work done.

If you look at the path of a guy like Big Daddy as described in his DA/Vikki interview, he went from smelling the 'Big Lie' of TLJ, to looking up human reviews of it on Youtube, to then entering CG via TFM, whereupon he began streaming and envisioning comics of his own, recently having his script treatment critiqued by Nasser and Smiller on Afterlife thanks to the promotional efforts of @Mister Dongs.

It was very entertaining, in contrast to Poulter's writing show which feels very awkward and slow/clunky, and not really oriented towards the viewer - more of the 'turn the camera on while we work' approach. Narwhal is much the same, but has more intrinsic entertainment value because of it being Narwhal, who is intrinsically amusing as a human being.

One analogy would be to cooking shows. A good chef can put the camera on himself while he works, but that doesn't make it a good cooking show. Successful cooking shows always have some kind of thing to them, like a gameshow element that works well, or a strong personality who becomes a star.

That's kind of where I think CG might be headed, comics will be like cooking. Some people will want to try making their own produce, while others will be happy to buy the produce made by CG creators.

I think this is one of the most interesting aspects of CG that explains a lot of the internal class conflicts. It's like a soup kitchen with a bunch of gourmet chefs who have come in and started cooking up a storm - tensions and resentments are inevitable.
 
Congrats on getting back up to 132K. However I must offer my condolences about the poor performance of your pie-hunter video. Alas, it seems your true life goal, to become the Daym Drops of pie consumption on YouTube, must remain on the backburner at this time.

I wondered about the 50K+ video thing, and was interested to find these top videos on the Draftsmen podcast channel:
  • Don't Go To Art School! Here's Why [70K]
  • DIY Art School Part 1 [50K]
Draftsmen is a relatively new (2019ish) spinoff of the much bigger Proko art/anatomy instruction channel. Draftsmen focuses more generally on art and storytelling subjects, but with barely any attention paid to comics or manga, strangely.

I thought you might find their top-viewed videos interesting, since you're a successful pro that didn't go to art school.

Then I got more interested looking at @NasserRabadi13's top two videos, which are:
  • What I learned from self-publishing my own comic book [12K]
  • Big mistake inexperienced comic book writers make [8K]
It seems like there is a demand for advice videos for indie self-starters in comics, both in art and writing. This would seem like the ideal topic for Comicsgate in its current phase, having evolved from an establishment-criticism focus to one of creator-owned self-publishing.

But looking at Comicsgate content in general, there seems to be a problem in the supply that possibly arises from a focus on streaming over making shorter, digestible, edited videos.

For example, Smiller has a backup channel that he's using to stream during the Orange Terror, Mike Draws Comics, a channel so dead that his recent 'Controversy! Drama!' video has instantly shot to the top spot with only 500 views. He has a ton of piecemeal instructional videos on various comic art topics, longer inking videos etc, but they're all sub-500 views.

Meanwhile Narwhal and Preston Poulter also stream 'process', Narwhal with brainstorming collaboration videos and Poulter with his writers' room, but they get very low viewership.

I think there's a lot of valuable content in CG that gets lost in the bushes, because the signal-to-noise ratio is too low with streaming.

There's a disconnect or gap between the viewers, who want tight informative videos oriented to their needs, and lazy streamers, for whom making content is just turning on the camera while they get some work done.

If you look at the path of a guy like Big Daddy as described in his DA/Vikki interview, he went from smelling the 'Big Lie' of TLJ, to looking up human reviews of it on Youtube, to then entering CG via TFM, whereupon he began streaming and envisioning comics of his own, recently having his script treatment critiqued by Nasser and Smiller on Afterlife thanks to the promotional efforts of @Mister Dongs.

It was very entertaining, in contrast to Poulter's writing show which feels very awkward and slow/clunky, and not really oriented towards the viewer - more of the 'turn the camera on while we work' approach. Narwhal is much the same, but has more intrinsic entertainment value because of it being Narwhal, who is intrinsically amusing as a human being.

One analogy would be to cooking shows. A good chef can put the camera on himself while he works, but that doesn't make it a good cooking show. Successful cooking shows always have some kind of thing to them, like a gameshow element that works well, or a strong personality who becomes a star.

That's kind of where I think CG might be headed, comics will be like cooking. Some people will want to try making their own produce, while others will be happy to buy the produce made by CG creators.

I think this is one of the most interesting aspects of CG that explains a lot of the internal class conflicts. It's like a soup kitchen with a bunch of gourmet chefs who have come in and started cooking up a storm - tensions and resentments are inevitable.
I was actually thinking to make more videos on craft. I actually have done a bunch of them before, and they got pretty low views, but those people that watched them really liked them. Yesterday was the first time in a WHILE that I did one, because sometimes it's difficult to know what specific topic of craft to cover unless asked.

I did this video on establishing shots, word balloons, panel layouts. I wanted to do this because of a recent conversation I had with @FROG on his channel where I was laughed at for saying you didn't always need an establishing shot, and that sometimes the establishing shot could come last.

Hitchcock said "never use an establishing shot to establish" and I think that's true about 99% of the time. I think you need to cut into action, and that an establishing shot later on adds more effect.

An example I gave in my video: Let's say there's a comic book about people snowed into a mansion, and somebody is inside of it stalking them.

If we begin with a shot inside the house, we'll get the idea from the tree and decorations it's winter. We'll probably even see snow outside the window. And when we show our character getting stalked, the reader will hope that there's a chance for the character being stalked to escape.

But after a while, we pull out, we reveal that there's 3 feet of snow, they're snowed in, there's no escape...

...now the rest of the scenes have more intensity. Now you know there's no escape, and it adds suspense.

IF the opening shot is the establishing shot of a snowed in house/mansion, then when you cut to the inside, and somebody is being stalked, you'd almost have a sense of not caring because all the suspense is pretty much gone. You can almost begin to predict how it will go.

That's just an example off the top of my head. I'll be doing more craft videos soon--and if you or anyone else has any certain topics they want me to talk about, let me know.
 
Looks like from those tweets he's a Warcampaigner too? As if being a colossal faggot shitting up Youtube chats with spam wasn't bad enough.
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Oh and nice work on his dox @Booty Warrior of Light, I haven't really seen you around this thread before but it's always good to have more doxers join us. Welcome to the party.
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More positive PR for #WASCAMPAIGN!!!

Drew Taylor from boundingintocomics.com will fit in well with WC!!! He is good friends with the non-mod leader in mind MIKEY WOODZ! Look at Mikey's intellegence below. Where is VESTIGE #2 that was due in OCTOBER?
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Bro, Tim Lim came after ME. See those DMs? I had zero problems with him.
Yeah sure. Bro.

And you had no idea how bad WarCampaign was until they started picking on Anna.

When they were attacking the people you wanted them to you had no idea...

Like I said, "cool story".

Believable.


To be fair, negotiating for something while having no control over your major selling point (Cyberfrog) is even dumber than anything else we know Mitch did.
I agree. Mitch is dumber than rocks and a complete tool bag.

He was also Ethan's friend at the time and EVS used him like toilet paper.

Seems to me, they're both assholes.

I didn't say one thing that wasn't true about Smiller
You lie constantly about everyone who isn't on your good side Ethan.

It's what you do.

He also said comments about mike burning a comic how it was child abuse because the little boy claimed it was his and a war profiteering for having a tier to give a comic to a soldier.
Did you claim Mike was a war profiteer and a child abuser Ethan?

Didn't you spread rumors about Mike defrauding IGG and his backers?

You were still defending Mitch at the time though and you were in the loop that Mitch was using backer money to build his Walmart venture instead of delivering Red Rooster. I'm sure Mitch appreciated you keeping his secret from your fans.

Cool cool cool.
 
That's just an example off the top of my head. I'll be doing more craft videos soon--and if you or anyone else has any certain topics they want me to talk about, let me know.

I definitely like this direction, at some point the Liam and Donal milk will run dry and you'll need something to fall back on.

However I need to call you out on a few things:

Slapfighting - this debate is a good subject, but maybe avoid getting into autistic slapfights. Comics are dorky enough without more layers of dorky debates going round in circles.

I get what you're saying about establishing shots for sure, but I think it gets a little confusing when you conflate it with the pullback/reveal. Going by something you said in a previous video, the reader is a detective - so every shot is really an establishing shot, by definition the first shot is an establishing shot even if it's just a black screen with some text.

Looking at Hitchcock in practice, movies like Psycho and Rear Window open with a very active, roving camera that not only establishes, but also brings to life the world in which the story is about to take place. Rear Window in particular dumps a huge amount of information in its opening shots, building the entire world in which the film then happens.

Sergio Leone is another good one, I think this scene is a good example of the point you're making about a delayed pullback shot being better than an opening wide shot:


It being cinema, Leone uses musical refrains where a comic book author would use text to deliver the emotions, but the basic idea is the same. It's potentially much more impactful to save those rich wide shots for where it suits the story, rather than obey a rule about opening establishing shots being wide shots.

However moving on from that, you did two presentational things I don't like:

1. The presentation of the comic using Dropbox in your browser is just awful. The comic is too small to see properly. It feels like being in a gallery and somebody has set the guard rail back ridiculously far. I can see there's a comic there, with stuff on it, that's about it. You're using less than half the screen, and the rest is colored like a bathroom.

I wish CGers would make more of an effort to present their own work with more theatrical grandiosity. This is a show for your work, a showcase. Chop the comic up or zoom into it and showcase it panel by panel if you need to, that's how documentaries do it. You shouldn't be presenting your product the same way you would a garbage-tier website article that you wanted to roast.

2. You yadda yadda'd your own story, which is a CG pet hate of mine. You know: "Then they get captured by the Jawas, then they get sold to Luke, yadda yadda yadda..." If you're getting bored going through your own story, how am I supposed to get excited about it?

This is me being a little harsh on you, but please understand the bigger point I'm trying to make. Guys like @FROG and Dillard are able to sell me on their comic very quickly, for several reasons. One, they care about their stories, and I can sense that they care about them when they talk about them. They're like custom cars that they love to tinker on, you can sense their enthusiasm, you can sense there's going to be a personal touch and depth to the story. The product is going to have a 'soul'. While I like your ASYL project, I feel like it has a different feel - not a labor of love, but almost more like a school assignment. Know what I mean? It's like something you're into, and excited about, but it's different. It's a cool project, but it's not like Cyberfrog and The Buckler, where it feels more like their whole heart and soul is in the product.

The other reason Frog and Dillard sell me on their product more quickly is because they're natural raconteurs - they're able to get away with doing lazy streams that are still entertaining through their natural storytelling ability.

I want to see you work on your raw natural storytelling ability, because right now I would say that Big Daddy, who you clowned and roasted, is a better horror storyteller than you. He has actually scared me just from talking on his streams, whereas you have never scared me even a tiny bit. And you're the one selling a horror comic!

That's why Nasserpiece Theater was good training and marketing for you. You were being clowned and roasted the same way as Big Daddy, but at the same time people got a sense of your style of storytelling, which may or may not be their cup of tea. And that's what matters for sales in the end.

So what I'm saying in a nutshell is, sell me on your horror storytelling abilities, and don't worry about getting into 'No actually I think you'll find I am right' type arguments that don't really matter. What matters is that you need to find and sell to your audience, which is horror fans presumably. And the way to do that is by showing us what you can do.

Hitchcock famously used to spontaneously recount hideous made-up murder incidents whenever he was in an elevator, just to shit up the other people in the elevator. Almost like horror farts, he was farting horror into their minds while they were trapped in the elevator with him. Just for shits and giggles.

Where is that mischievous spirit from you? On Sunday, Testefy was Bugs Bunny to your Elmer Fudd. Even Smiller, Square Smiller, is more mischievous than you. He was like the R2-D2 to your C3PO that same day.

So prove yourself here on these proving grounds of the internet. Can you spin a yarn? Can you tell an improv story like this guy, the self-proclaimed 'greatest storyteller on Twitch'? (Don't feel bad if not, you have some way to go before you're on this guy's level.)


That's all you need to be able to do. Can you make me shit my pants, either through laughter or fear? That's the main thing we all want deep down.
 
Look, fuck Tim Lim. He's a massive secret gay op sperg who behaves like a woman, and does comics for head pats from Republican celebrities.

I'm clear about how I feel about Lim. He sits around with jealous OGCG nerds and forms grudges, with his "people are gonna talk" passive aggressive threats.

Here's Tim letting me know that Smiller shouldn't get bumped to the front of the line, and that his pals would give me grief if I didn't give them access to my platform the way I was helping Zack:

Tim's just keeping his head down and making books and coming out with them regularly. Seems to be a trend with who gets attacked hard. Maybe chill and let people be about comics and everyone comes together and are about comics? This is the way.
 
Catching up on the thread. The Frog white knights and A loggers are at each other. Either Ethan is a perfect baby boy who didn't do nuffin' or he's Satan incarnate.

Course the middle road is best. He's a life long recovering comic book pro who's somehow surrounded by a mix of the most tismy people on the planet who make him look normal when he isn't.

For Ethan's detractors, your too invested. Take a break. There's a wonderful catalogue on here of career cows to enjoy on the Farms. For Ethan's simps, just fuck off.

We get a perfect example of the CG tism here. Tim Lim. Lim did some very cowish things. Two years ago.

Ethan's being Ethan, portraying himself as the constant victim who never does anything to bring it on himself...:lol:

In a attempt to placate his fans it appears Frog has made last nights stream public again. However he has chopped off the last 15 minutes or so, resulting in utter confusion from his comments section who are wondering how they didn't get notified for a stream that happened 22 hours ago (and why part of it is now missing). To be fair, he's stuck in a catch 22 because if he keeps it private he gets hounded on twitter and if he puts it back up in full youtube might come down on him. Not sure why he doesn't just use a second channel like people have been telling him to do for years.

What was at the end of the stream that got chopped off that would get him in trouble with YT?

Ethan is obsessed with getting his main channels numbers. He also wields allot of power via his ability to livestream and monetize. A second channel would need to be built to the point he could monetize those livestreams with thirsty wannabes sending him notice me senpai super chats. He'd have a tough time with the requirements now that he's post Star Wars grift. Allot of the new geek channels hit their boom riding these mini gates within niche fandom. Nerdrotic/Dr. Who, Doomcock/Discovery, the High Council (Ethan, WCB, G&G)/Star Wars. Star Wars is mostly dead except for Mando right now and even then, its good so that's not helpful.

 
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