I posted the clip of the exchange between Mike and "Fake Liam"
here in the main Comicsgate thread. If you were going to watch it I'd recommend going
here to bitchute so you can do it at x2 speed.
LIFE WITH LIAM [FINALE]
It had been a rough few days for Liam Gray, facing off accusations of flagging the channels of
@NasserRabadi13,
@TESTEFY-HD and Mike S Miller on both twitter and youtube. Liam faced a large backlash from not only anti-Comicsgater's but pro-Comicsgaters too including a refund request from Ethan VanSciver himself. Our show begins with a tweet from Liam, announcing a season finale stream in which everyone has been unblocked from his chat.
Our show begins after intro music at the
3 minute 15 second mark with Liam greeting the chat, announcing that after watching the Oz show he is going to tell a story to combat what he feels is a negative image of himself built up largely by clips. Liam Gray first states that his name is not really Liam Gray, it's his birth name on his birth certificate but it is not his current name. Around the
9 minute mark Liam claims that he never really needed crowdfunding to produce his book and he is quite wealthy and donates money to families in the Philippines. Shortly after Liam also claims that he will not release his pen names or any personal information about himself as certain individuals have already approached a 9 year old family member, possibly a niece and provided her with pornography. The pornography in question is Robbi Rodriguez's anus which he
famously tweeted at Ethan VanSciver during late 2018. Liam further claims that his partner has been sent photoshopped images of him in pornographic pictures, in an attempt to convince her that Liam was having an affair.
Liam then begins to stream snipe his cohosts stream Oz Arts Creations the
Oz Show #45 and that his previous tweet of discussing the possibility of Warcampaign returning to Comicsgate was to grab attention and get as many viewers as possible for his next stream.
Liam again brings up his resume touring with punk bands, working on films, television, animation etc; but his original love was comic books. He again brings up that he had a brain aneurism and it was an "eye opening" experience and the doctor told him he had till the age of 50 to live. Following is another Liam trope that he was raised in poverty in the Aboriginal communities and he was able to uplift himself thanks to perseverance and hard work. Liam also states that he has known
Vinnie Tartamella for the past 20 years and worked with some big creators during his time.
At the
18 minute 44 second mark Liam describes his first failed crowdfunding attempt
SWAY which Liam asserts failed due to sabotage and gay ops. Liam then describes the various challenges he has faced and continues to hint at future legal action against individuals for what he considers cyber harassment. At the 22 minute 50 second mark Liam continues with the efap of the Oz Arts stream, which features one of his supporters Amit Raina and later one of his former supporters turned detractor Well Read User 1. Liam reasserts that the accounts he struck were in violation of copyright infringement and at the
24 minute 14 second mark begins to explain that "Liam Gray" is a character and Liam owns the rights to it. Liam states that his lawyers have told him that this is an anti-business and anti-competitive practice and Liam claims that he is being contacted by his backers and they have requested $1700 in refunds. This could be due to Ethan VanSciver requesting a refund on Liam's show live, before being blocked by mods in the chat. Liam then infers that four of these individuals are in cahoots with one another and strangely references "The Black Glove" incident, which occurred in late 2018 when Tim Lim was leaking private DMs of Ethan VanSciver to a third party to post on kiwifarms. Why Liam references the Black Glove incident is beyond me, since he was not involved nor affected by it. Liam then goes on to name Doug TenNapel and Mike S Miller as two of the four individuals and then explains why Mike might be targeting him, since Liam used his platform to spread lies about Mike S Miller being targeted by the IRS. Liam expresses that he was not at fault as he was just parroting the talking points of Ethan and then offers Mike an apology for his involvement. Liam then offers a retraction and hand waves it away by explaining that he was a tabloid news service and a self admitted goofball.
At the
27 minute 55 second mark Liam then attempts to justify his past jabs at Mike by stating that Mike was in collaboration with the SWC brothers and has been present on livestreams with them, which as far as I know is false. The SWC brothers don't like Mike S Miller so unless they both appeared together on Doug TenNapels channel out of pure coincidence, I severely doubt they have ever hosted each other. Liam also claims that Mike has participated in the slander and lies against Liam and he has a recording of this, that is currently with his attorneys. Liam maintains that Mike and "Fake Liam" told people to refund Liam's book, that it wouldn't be fulfilled and that Mike was presenting Fake Liam as actual Liam. All of this is proved to be false as the bitchute of the exchange can be found
here and my original post on the farms about it
here. Liam continues to decry the appearance of Fake Liam and continues to assert that he will be following up with legal action but will drop the strikes against Mike at the
31 minute mark. Liam then rehashes his feud with
@NasserRabadi13 claiming Nasser is trying to present him as a lolcow and knows of Nasser's tactics and past actions against other creators and will again be pursuing legal action against him. Liam further claims that Nasser is guilty of anti-business practices, blackmail, extortion and harassment and Liam is the victim of this.
At the
35 minute and 25 second mark, Liam pauses his efap of the Oz show stream to respond to Amit Raina's assertion that he doesn't believe Liam's business is being affected by these struck channels since they would have never backed his projects in the first place. Liam claims he has verified data that his business is being affected and once again it will not be solved with youtube kayfabe but rather with lawyers in the court of law. Around the 39 minute mark Liam starts to claim that all his lolcow behavior has been one giant act and he has been hamming it up for the audiences benefit, something I sincerely doubt. Following that Liam claims that if you do not enforce your copyright, it will lapse and open yourself up to claims, which was countered by
@Spectre_06 post
above who asserts that Liam is confusing copyright law with trademark law. Liam continues to lie about the exchange between Fake Liam and Mike S Miller claiming that they both claimed that Ody was leaving Conquest Comics and Liam's employ, which both panelists didn't know anything about and asked
@Mister Dongs in chat to clarify. At the
46 minute and 52 second mark Liam again insists that he will be dropping the copyright claim against Mike after the insistence from several other Comicsgate creators, as of writing this post two days later it appears that no action has been taken by Liam Gray to remove the copyright strikes. Liam continues his tirade against Nasser Rabadbi at the 51 minute mark, claiming that Nasser is harassing him via emails and attempting to contact Liam's employees when Liam has requested that he cease contact with him. Liam then describes Nasser's products as "sub par garbage" which are marketed via outrage.
Liam continues to efap the video until Well Read User 1 joins the panel and Oz pauses the show to highlight a comment from
@Mister Dongs which reads "Liam is issuing false channel strikes out of anger, should be cleared up in 10 days." This causes Liam to pause the efap and state that Oz explains the matter more concisely and better than he could in response to Mister Dongs at the
55 minute 21 second mark. Oz then claims Liam has contracts outside of Comicsgate and complains that these contracts are being affected by google search results of his name and brand, most likely this thread is included in those results. Mister Dongs then very wisely corrects Oz by asking him "what does Liam's google search results have to do with Mike S Miller, Oz?" Liam pauses the video here to grandstand some more and continue one of his classic rants of "saving the comic industry." Liam then makes a new bold claim that he was an artist who did covers for punk CDs and zines for magazines in the punk scene but gave it up since he didn't have the talent to continue going forward. Liam then strangely segways into how he never got to write Spiderman and how artists and writers at Marvel would troll him specifically by using certain covers and storylines, all just to troll him.
At the
1 hour and 6 minute mark Oz highlights a comment from
@VIkkiVerse who brings up that Liam lied about the restraining order against him and that if that truth forces people not to want to do business with him then it's his own fault. Both Oz and Liam dispute Vikki's comment and Oz lets slip that "Liam didn't have a restraining order for what you claimed he did" in a way revealing that Liam was the one named in the apprehended violence order in the opening post. Liam pauses the video to state that all these groups are connected and operate in Mike S Miller's discord where they reveal personal information about him, share his photos and plot to contact his family members including the 9 year old girl mentioned above. Liam then does the standard routine of claiming his detractors are social justice warriors and that he is a victim of their attacks and claims one individual has an extensive criminal record with assault charges. Liam then again claims he is not
"Liam Cameron Gray" who is the recipient of charges in Sydney and the Central Coast of Australia and that the AVO was photoshopped to look like him, which is a lie since it was
archived from the NSW court registries website.
The efap continues and Oz explains to Well Read User 1 that Liam does have legal proceedings against people that WRU1 streams with, whether this is the failed attempt to charge Ciderhype as previously
reported on in this thread, or fresh charges is unknown. At the 1 hour 13 minute mark Liam responds to a comment from the chat and claims he has two police reports currently out and one of them is in Maine, which relates to the previously mentioned charge against Ciderhype. Liam also claims that the leaked excel file of his comic book as posted
here, were released by Ciderhype. Liam then claims that
@VIkkiVerse and DA Talks admitted on a livestream to being behind the distribution, but posts no proof or clips of the of livestream in question. Liam claims the clip of them doing so is also currently with his attorneys and the police are involved.
At the 1 hour 23 minute Liam begins an epic rant about the internet, his business, his desire to fight, the death of the mainstream comic industry but it's all stock standard stuff to those who follow his rhetoric. One point of hypocrisy Liam expresses is that people are too busy tearing each other down, compared to creating art and products. Yet to date Liam has engaged in tearing down more creators than any other individual in Comicsgate and it's sub-factions only
attempting to tear down Tim Lim several days earlier. At the
1 hour and 34 minute mark he regains his composure after an 11 minute rant and continues to efap the Oz Arts stream, this peace only lasts for a few minutes as at the 1 hour and 37 minute mark the rant continues.
During this rant Liam announces that he is cancelling his passive show "Life with Liam" as he did his bloodsports alternative "Live with Liam" and will be closing this chapter on his life and leaving youtube. That this stream is the last chance at a parting shot, before he moves on with his life and ends the story. Given his previous grand "goodbye" messages on a variety of public forums, I highly doubt this. The rant then continues into the death of the comicbook industry and how he tried to save it, blah blah blah. He then quickly makes a fool of himself claiming IMAGE comics failed, which several users in the chat laugh over since IMAGE is still alive and well and competing with DC comics for the second top spot after Marvel.
After these series of rants Liam continues to efap the Oz Show stream pausing at the
1 hour 54 minute mark to abuse WRU1 as a troll and menace to his life. Liam of course doesn't tell the truth that WRU1 was a former customer, fan and moderator on Liam's channel who eventually got sick and tired of his lies and bullshit. A perfect case study in what happens when you offer a different opinion to Liam that he doesn't like. Liam then delves into another rant about how he is the victim of bullies damaging his public image, completely ignorant to the fact that his own behavior is the cause of this. As the stream continues in repsonse to WRU1, Liam essentially claims he is a martyr for others to witness the suffering of an online comic creator and that he took these slings and arrows for everyone. Completely delusional thinking as anyone who has followed him knows that his own behavior is the cause of all his problems, as evidenced in the OP of this thread. Liam continues to cry that he has been called a troublemaker, a drama monger, a nazi and that he is the victim of cancel culture, despite practicing it himself. He also claims that he was alone during all this and could count his defenders on one hand.
At the
2 hour and 4 minute mark Liam again continues into a tirade against
@NasserRabadi13 who as Liam claims interfered with his business dealings, terrorized Liams life and posted pictures of Liam's dead dog all over kiwifarms, something if you check Nasser's post history is false. Liam asserts that this is all propaganda orchestrated against him and continues his victim rant. At around the 2 hour and 14 minute mark Liam then dives into Sketch and cries how the Sketch v Liam drama was turned into content, however Liam himself was the one who promoted it as content himself as seen in the OP, before returning to dunk on WRU1. At the 2 hour 22 minute mark Liam then continues with another rant about how he has rebuilt destroyed villages, is about to start a family and has accomplished all these great things in his life.
The final twenty minutes of the stream has Liam rehashing all his previous lies about these impersonators telling people his book isn't going to come out, to refund it, that his employees are leaving him. The final ten minutes are pure gold as Liam then attempts to use his artist Ody as a human shield and begins another epic sperg rant about how he's affected by all this, when in reality it is Liam's actions that affect Ody as his business partner. The fact of the matter is, Ody is an incredibly talented artist and Liam needs him, far more than Ody needs Liam. Liam then ends the efap and in the remaining three minutes claims he will remove the strikes against the channels after some contemplation and will not stand idly against evil men. He then announces things will be different in future and maybe he'll be back or maybe he won't.
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