Fallout series

The Steel Dawn update for Fallout 76 straight up has the BoS NPCs come from California, fuck me. The Brotherhood shouldn't even be emerging from Lost Hills in any major capacity for another twenty years, but apparently they have the resources to send a team across the fucking country to reestablish the Appalachian chapter when that makes no sense tactically. The radio broadcast explanation for why there's a Brotherhood chapter this early on the east coast strained disbelief but they really don't give a fuck anymore.
It should have been Enclave Remnants. Like say, a remnant of the Appalachia Enclave forces formerly under Thomas Eckhart. You can still have NPCs with power armor and energy weapons to trade with, and have some of them be hit with the Scorch Plague or be a rogue faction so you can have enemies in power armor to shoot and loot from.
 
The Steel Dawn update for Fallout 76 straight up has the BoS NPCs come from California, fuck me. The Brotherhood shouldn't even be emerging from Lost Hills in any major capacity for another twenty years, but apparently they have the resources to send a team across the fucking country to reestablish the Appalachian chapter when that makes no sense tactically. The radio broadcast explanation for why there's a Brotherhood chapter this early on the east coast strained disbelief but they really don't give a fuck anymore.
I don’t know where you are getting the idea that the brotherhood wouldn’t emerge from Lost Hills in the early 2100s.

There is a way that sending the team out makes sense; it is the Brotherhood’s method of dealing with those who conflict with Brotherhood philosophy.

They send people out with their weapons and equipment so they don’t have deal with them and risk civil war. If the outcasts die then they cause no more trouble. If anyone acquires BoS tech from the outcasts’ corpses, they are far enough away from Lost Hills to be an immediate threat. If the outcasts survive, they will produce another stable area in wasteland and they won’t be antagonist to Lost Hills.

The BoS did this to Elder Lyons, Veronica, and Danse.

Their actions reflect the origins of the BoS; exile from an organization they rejected (USA), and moved to a new location where they set up a stable part of the wasteland (Lost Hills).

I say this because the Brotherhood Expedition to Appalachia ends up setting up the second Appalachian chapter because of disagreement with BoS orthodoxy.
 
I don’t know where you are getting the idea that the brotherhood wouldn’t emerge from Lost Hills in the early 2100s.

There is a way that sending the team out makes sense; it is the Brotherhood’s method of dealing with those who conflict with Brotherhood philosophy.

They send people out with their weapons and equipment so they don’t have deal with them and risk civil war. If the outcasts die then they cause no more trouble. If anyone acquires BoS tech from the outcasts’ corpses, they are far enough away from Lost Hills to be an immediate threat. If the outcasts survive, they will produce another stable area in wasteland and they won’t be antagonist to Lost Hills.

The BoS did this to Elder Lyons, Veronica, and Danse.

Their actions reflect the origins of the BoS; exile from an organization they rejected (USA), and moved to a new location where they set up a stable part of the wasteland (Lost Hills).

I say this because the Brotherhood Expedition to Appalachia ends up setting up the second Appalachian chapter because of disagreement with BoS orthodoxy.
They didn't send the Expedition because of disagreements. That's only Leila Rahmani, and she didn't have any clear vision of breaking away from the Brotherhood until they arrived in Appalachia as far as I can tell. Anyways, the Brotherhood didn't start initiating trade until the 2140s to build up, wasting a paladin on a cross-country expedition is stupid.
 
So we're all in agreement that Mr House is the best choice for New Vegas right?
Caesar's too brutal, the Brotherhood are a bunch of backwards savages, and the NCR is too incompetent. Unless you have a genius-level Courier pulling off the Yes Man ending, who else can you turn to?
 
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They didn't send the Expedition because of disagreements. That's only Leila Rahmani, and she didn't have any clear vision of breaking away from the Brotherhood until they arrived in Appalachia as far as I can tell. Anyways, the Brotherhood didn't start initiating trade until the 2140s to build up, wasting a paladin on a cross-country expedition is stupid.
Not initiating trade is different from sending people out, and I read that Rahmani was ordered to leave by the Brotherhood elders, even having to be coaxed by Maxson to continue the mission, so there is a subtext of discontent there.

Also, the Brotherhood is kind of stupid. Maxson decided to turn a US military unit into quasi-religious knight order. At least raider groups can excuse their weirdness from being drug-filled lunatics. What the fuck convinced Maxson to transform soldiers into a LARP fantasy?
Caesar's too brutal, the Brotherhood are a bunch of backwards savages, and the NCR is too incompetent. Unless you have a genius-level Courier pulling off the Yes Man ending, who else can you turn to?
House is a rich technocratic asshole who can’t even fuck is robot waifus and surrounds himself with the consumerist culture of his youth.

He is a wealthy version of Moviebob.
 
So we're all in agreement that Mr House is the best choice for New Vegas right?
One thing I wish they'd done is allow you to go the Independent route while keeping Mr House alive with a high science and repair skill. Just cut off his ability to control anything outside of his life support pod and kinda keep him in storage until the battle is over. Once you emerge victorious you deal with House, making him a subordinate to you as you become the leader of New Vegas and lord of the Mojave while House becomes your chief scientific mind who's research is supported by the profits being funneled in from the casinos.

Hell, backstab the NCR at the end but retain a working relationship with them. They must now pay for the power they get from the Dam, but in return they get a useful ally with massive robot armies, an orbital energy weapon platform, and the remaining nuclear weapons of the Divide. New Vegas acts as a friendly buffer against the East while the NCR takes the time to focus on internal problems like taking out the last of the raiders and purging the corruption from their politics.
 
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So we're all in agreement that Mr House is the best choice for New Vegas right?
The problem with Mr. House's route is that you do pretty much everything for him, which is naturally going to make every player think "hmm, why am I not doing the route where I do everything and I'm in charge of New Vegas instead?"

Also, the Brotherhood is kind of stupid. Maxson decided to turn a US military unit into quasi-religious knight order. At least raider groups can excuse their weirdness from being drug-filled lunatics. What the fuck convinced Maxson to transform soldiers into a LARP fantasy?
That's just Fallout in general, though. Why was Vault Tec literally so mustache twirling evil that they made like 3 control vaults and every other vault a bunch of goofy experiments? The United States was pulp as fuck in the alternate history, and you have to accept that as the origin of the setting. Still, Fallout 76 in one of its few good moments gave a very good reason why Maxson made a new culture and rank structure for the Brotherhood of Steel, including the very practical desire not to allow remaining US holdouts to be able to assert authority over his soldiers. I don't mind there being other Brotherhood chapters due to radio communication, but sending an expedition across the US that soon after the Great War is lunacy. The expedition force in Tactics was perfectly fine and about when you'd expect the Brotherhood would find it prudent to go further east.
 
Not initiating trade is different from sending people out, and I read that Rahmani was ordered to leave by the Brotherhood elders, even having to be coaxed by Maxson to continue the mission, so there is a subtext of discontent there.

Also, the Brotherhood is kind of stupid. Maxson decided to turn a US military unit into quasi-religious knight order. At least raider groups can excuse their weirdness from being drug-filled lunatics. What the fuck convinced Maxson to transform soldiers into a LARP fantasy?

House is a rich technocratic asshole who can’t even fuck is robot waifus and surrounds himself with the consumerist culture of his youth.

He is a wealthy version of Moviebob.

I can tell you why. The original makers of Fallout wanted to combine standard RPG tropes with the "boo-hoo, the government and the corporations are corrupt!" mindset. That's why Vault-Tec were the kind of corporate assholes who make the Trade Federation from Star Wars look like saints in comparison, and they even doubled-down on it with Fallout 2's Enclave being a remnant of the US government that wants all mutated creatures dead, when what they should have just done is dominate the mainland with their superior firepower and help re-organize post-apocalyptic society to become a more stable environment, like what House did with the New Vegas Families that used to be tribes.

That's why they had Maxson and his idiots form a knightly order after being disgusted with the US government, instead of just maintaining some semblance of American government power, because RPGs were full of knights and orcs back in the day. They just wanted an excuse to put that in a modern, post-apocalyptic environment, so the Brotherhood of Steel and the FEV Super Mutants allowed them to create modern knights and orcs. The Brotherhood became the new knights, who used advanced weapons and tactics from an earlier, more prosperous age, and the Super Mutants became the new Orcs, green-skinned cannon fodder controlled by a greater power, in this case, the Master, Richard Grey, who uses his psychic powers to commune with the Super Mutants. Even the idea that the Super Mutants will replace humans as the creatures most suited to rule the new age mirrors Lord of the Rings' statement on it:

"The Age of Men is over. The Time of the Orc has come."

That sounds very familiar.

"The Super Mutant is the next advancement in human evolution. To save the world, we will convert all the worthy individuals. Simple, efficient, glorious."

When it comes to House, I couldn't disagree more. House is more akin to an old Byzantine Emperor having to deal with Saracens and Germanic barbarians after most of his civilization went up in smoke. Like the Byzantines, he hides behinds high walls and uses trickery, politicking, and old-world tech as his advantage against the larger, more primitive factions like the NCR and the Legion. That, and he doesn't really give a shit about fucking anymore since his body is more withered than Darth Sidious'. He just wants to bring as much order and prosperity to his little slice of heaven before he inevitably kicks the bucket and bequeathes everything to the Courier or something.

The problem with Mr. House's route is that you do pretty much everything for him, which is naturally going to make every player think "hmm, why am I not doing the route where I do everything and I'm in charge of New Vegas instead?"


That's just Fallout in general, though. Why was Vault Tec literally so mustache twirling evil that they made like 3 control vaults and every other vault a bunch of goofy experiments? The United States was pulp as fuck in the alternate history, and you have to accept that as the origin of the setting. Still, Fallout 76 in one of its few good moments gave a very good reason why Maxson made a new culture and rank structure for the Brotherhood of Steel, including the very practical desire not to allow remaining US holdouts to be able to assert authority over his soldiers. I don't mind there being other Brotherhood chapters due to radio communication, but sending an expedition across the US that soon after the Great War is lunacy. The expedition force in Tactics was perfectly fine and about when you'd expect the Brotherhood would find it prudent to go further east.

Again, that ties in with me comparing House to a Byzantine Emperor. Some Byzantine Emperors were formerly Byzantine generals who used to take orders from the Emperor until they realized they can give the orders themselves. But House is far smarter, considering that even if you go with Yes Man, you end up using the same plan House did, by defeating the Legion with the Securitron Army then strong-arming the NCR into a truce after saving their president from the assassin's bullet.

As I said, they wanted to combine a standard RPG game of knights and orcs with "boo-hoo, corporations and government types are evil!" That's why Vault-Tec was just that idiotic, even though preserving 99% of your people makes more sense, and you can always do social experiments AFTER society has been rebuilt. Their version of the US in Fallout is every socialist's worst nightmare (many nerds back then, even the guys who made 40K, are bleeding-heart liberals who wanted to subvert the conservative order born of the 1950s) down to the point where Commie-bashing is a standard way of life. Ironically enough, Fallout 3 and New Vegas embraced this idea, with New Vegas revolving around REVIVING the old-world glory of America in the Mojave with either the NCR or New Vegas, or outright making it a fascist dictatorship under Caesar's Legion. There's no socialist faction there, and the smartest man alive is an unapologetic capitalist. And in Fallout 3, they even embraced the anti-Communist spirit of that version of America, with Liberty Prime spouting anti-Communist propaganda and being your ally in the final battle, and even giving you a DLC mission in Operation Anchorage where you LITERALLY fight Communist forces in American soil. Kind of like how the original 40K writers hated the Imperium and everything it stood for (nationalism, religion, militaristic loyalty to the state) whereas most 40K Imperium fans and many modern 40K writers love that shit.

The Fiends?
Fantastic and the Think Tank

Please. As if the Fiends exist for anything but target practice. And the Think Tank can't accomplish jack shit without it blowing up on their faces.
 
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If you get the good ending in Old World Blues, with the Courier's guidance the Think Tank ends up being incredibly helpful. An independent Vegas (with either House or the Courier at the helm) and the Think Tank would be very formidable.
 
If you get the good ending in Old World Blues, with the Courier's guidance the Think Tank ends up being incredibly helpful. An independent Vegas (with either House or the Courier at the helm) and the Think Tank would be very formidable.
Note the words "with the Courier's guidance". The Think Tank without the Courier are just idiots whose experiments blow up in their faces. You need House and/or the Courier to reign them in and keep them focused.
 
I can tell you why. The original makers of Fallout wanted to combine standard RPG tropes with the "boo-hoo, the government and the corporations are corrupt!" mindset. That's why Vault-Tec were the kind of corporate assholes who make the Trade Federation from Star Wars look like saints in comparison, and they even doubled-down on it with Fallout 2's Enclave being a remnant of the US government that wants all mutated creatures dead, when what they should have just done is dominate the mainland with their superior firepower and help re-organize post-apocalyptic society to become a more stable environment, like what House did with the New Vegas Families that used to be tribes.

That's why they had Maxson and his idiots form a knightly order after being disgusted with the US government, instead of just maintaining some semblance of American government power, because RPGs were full of knights and orcs back in the day. They just wanted an excuse to put that in a modern, post-apocalyptic environment, so the Brotherhood of Steel and the FEV Super Mutants allowed them to create modern knights and orcs. The Brotherhood became the new knights, who used advanced weapons and tactics from an earlier, more prosperous age, and the Super Mutants became the new Orcs, green-skinned cannon fodder controlled by a greater power, in this case, the Master, Richard Grey, who uses his psychic powers to commune with the Super Mutants. Even the idea that the Super Mutants will replace humans as the creatures most suited to rule the new age mirrors Lord of the Rings' statement on it:

"The Age of Men is over. The Time of the Orc has come."

That sounds very familiar.

"The Super Mutant is the next advancement in human evolution. To save the world, we will convert all the worthy individuals. Simple, efficient, glorious."

When it comes to House, I couldn't disagree more. House is more akin to an old Byzantine Emperor having to deal with Saracens and Germanic barbarians after most of his civilization went up in smoke. Like the Byzantines, he hides behinds high walls and uses trickery, politicking, and old-world tech as his advantage against the larger, more primitive factions like the NCR and the Legion. That, and he doesn't really give a shit about fucking anymore since his body is more withered than Darth Sidious'. He just wants to bring as much order and prosperity to his little slice of heaven before he inevitably kicks the bucket and bequeathes everything to the Courier or something.
I thought of Vault-Tec as a commentary on the unethical science of the era. The 50s-60s were just coming out of the time when eugenics was thought of as a reasonable scientific study. The Tuskegee syphilis experiment was ongoing, MKUltra started up. Stanley Milgram conducted his Obedience experiment in 1964 and the Stanford Prison experiment happened in 1971. This is mad science shut and pretty much all of America's pre-war scientists were mad scientists, just look at Big MT.

I doubt that the pre-war government was a government for the American people. It is less corruption and more an aristocracy. They thought themselves as superior beings even before the war, which is why they commissioned the vaults and researched FEV. It is in the name of the virus: Forced Evolutionary Virus. They wanted to transform humanity into something else to escape the cycle of war, which they knew was going to end in nuclear war. Hell, even the Institute is an offshoot of this belief: there tagline is 'Mankind, Redefined'. The FEV is biological transformation to become immune to disease/radiation, the Vaults are a psychological transformation to survive deep-space colonization (based on Black Isle F3), and the Institute is a technological transformation to make a new version of humanity. However, all of this was for the pleasure of the elite; the majority are test subjects.

House is also an example of this elite arrogance, except without the desire to use the rest of humanity as guinea pigs. He truly wants to make New Vegas an oasis in the wasteland, but the steps to make it so must only come from his plans. Vegas must be built up exactly as he calculated, anything else he doesn't pay mind to. He doesn't give a fuck about the wellbeing of Outer New Vegas and wouldn't have been aware of some of the White Glove Society returning to cannibalism without the player telling him. He allows to Omertas to conduct sex trafficking operations. He never suspected that Benny would want to overthrow him, in fact, he believed that Benny would be his agent like the Courier can be. I don't believe that House wanted to have the Courier be his replacement. House never intended to die. He wants be in charge; forever. He believes that because he holds a full deck, the House will always win. He never thought that someone holds their own ace up their sleeve.
 
I thought of Vault-Tec as a commentary on the unethical science of the era. The 50s-60s were just coming out of the time when eugenics was thought of as a reasonable scientific study. The Tuskegee syphilis experiment was ongoing, MKUltra started up. Stanley Milgram conducted his Obedience experiment in 1964 and the Stanford Prison experiment happened in 1971. This is mad science shut and pretty much all of America's pre-war scientists were mad scientists, just look at Big MT.

I doubt that the pre-war government was a government for the American people. It is less corruption and more an aristocracy. They thought themselves as superior beings even before the war, which is why they commissioned the vaults and researched FEV. It is in the name of the virus: Forced Evolutionary Virus. They wanted to transform humanity into something else to escape the cycle of war, which they knew was going to end in nuclear war. Hell, even the Institute is an offshoot of this belief: there tagline is 'Mankind, Redefined'. The FEV is biological transformation to become immune to disease/radiation, the Vaults are a psychological transformation to survive deep-space colonization (based on Black Isle F3), and the Institute is a technological transformation to make a new version of humanity. However, all of this was for the pleasure of the elite; the majority are test subjects.

House is also an example of this elite arrogance, except without the desire to use the rest of humanity as guinea pigs. He truly wants to make New Vegas an oasis in the wasteland, but the steps to make it so must only come from his plans. Vegas must be built up exactly as he calculated, anything else he doesn't pay mind to. He doesn't give a fuck about the wellbeing of Outer New Vegas and wouldn't have been aware of some of the White Glove Society returning to cannibalism without the player telling him. He allows to Omertas to conduct sex trafficking operations. He never suspected that Benny would want to overthrow him, in fact, he believed that Benny would be his agent like the Courier can be. I don't believe that House wanted to have the Courier be his replacement. House never intended to die. He wants be in charge; forever. He believes that because he holds a full deck, the House will always win. He never thought that someone holds their own ace up their sleeve.
They took that stuff and doubled down on it. In reality, if Vault-Tec were the least bit realistic, they'd save 99.9% of the vaults for control groups that work as advertised, while only .1% will be for social experiments, usually ones staffed with criminals from society. Most vaults would just lock up and teach the populace to remain loyal to American values, so when the Enclave emerges and a new president makes himself public, the Vaults open up and the people start rebuilding America. Also, realistically, the Enclave would be housed at Raven Rock or some bunker close to DC, not some Oil Rig out in the west coast that can easily be destroyed if a Chinese Communist warship or submarine pops up with ballistic missiles or nuclear warheads. Hence why I found the Enclave in Fallout 3 to be more realistic than the Enclave in 2. In FO2, the Enclave is residing in a very vulnerable post, with an offshore oil rig that has a reactor that can go critical, not to mention it's vulnerable to naval assaults if any remnant of the Chinese Communist fleet remained operational. Sure, there was some mad scientist shit back in those years, but they wouldn't be stupid enough to jeopardize the future of the country. I suppose the heads of the US government and Vault Tec in Fallout were tripping on Psycho when coming up with those plans.

Even an aristocracy defends the populace, just so they can have people to tax and trade with, not to mention people to draft in their wars. The negative, American view of aristocracy is far removed from the actual, real-life aristocrats who, in the Dark Ages, brought order where there was chaos and helped rebuild European society in the centuries after the collapse of Ancient Rome. People originally camped out near noble estates because the nobles can guarantee them security in times of trouble, they only evolved into serfdom as nobles later consolidated their power, only for serfdom to fade away once monarchies became more developed and centralized. Again, if this was realistic, the vast majority of people would either just be soldiers or workers for the government "aristocracy" so they can maintain a working economy and a large armed force to retake the surface world, and the "test subjects" would be an expendable minority usually consisting of criminals, retards, and political dissenters.

So? As bad as House's plans can be, everyone else is worse. The Legion doubles down on slavery and rape and wonders why the rest of society sees them as barbarians instead of a proper, Roman-style Empire. The NCR is so incompetent that it's practically a joke. The Brotherhood is just waiting for things to un-fuck themselves while acting like assholes towards everyone, then they get surprised when EVERYONE wants them dead. House is the only one with his head out of his ass and has an actual plan to revive the old-war glory that America used to have. His far-sighted plans allowed Vegas to survive the nuclear apocalypse, and his Securitron army makes the Brotherhood of Steel look like a boy scout club. That, and his plans to revive the tech sectors and space travel makes sense when the world they live in is an irradiated shithole. He's the only one planning five steps ahead. Caesar's Legion is too brutal, the NCR is too incompetent, and the Brotherhood are just plain idiots. It's telling that if you go the Yes Man route, 95% of your plans revolve around enacting House's plans for your benefit. The man is so smart that the guy/gal who overthrows him as lord and master of New Vegas practically does the same shit he wants, from saving the NCR President's life to annihilating the Legion and strong-arming the NCR into a truce.

House couldn't enforce his will on Outer Vegas without making the city itself vulnerable. If you win with House as your mission control, his Securitrons roll into Freeside and annihilate any troublemakers. And of course, the White Gloves are subtle about retaining cannibalism, so House, more focused on how to deal with the thieving NCR and the Legion, isn't going to be aware of it, not unless his Securitrons start policing every inch of the city like some Orewllian Hal 9000 shit. The Omertas are scummy, but they basically get drug addicts to be their hookers in the first place, so it's not like they're picking on innocents-any idiot with two brain cells to rub knows not to pump themselves with free drugs. Also, Benny betraying House was again, something he didn't count on considering that he was more focused at planning how to defeat the NCR AND the Legion. Benny was one of the Heads of the Three Families, so House wouldn't be as worried about Benny as he is with the NCR plotting to steal Vegas out from under him or the Legion planning to take it over. Not to mention that, as anyone who's seen what House really looks like can attest, House isn't long for this world. Anytime the Courier loses patience with him, they can easily deactivate him and place Yes Man in charge. That, and when you do win with the House ending, House gives the Courier every luxury that can be afforded in Vegas, either because he's scared of the Courier, or quietly proud of them.
 
At least in the older lore Vault-Tec was still more sensible than current 4/76 lore. Even the vaults that were experimental weren't always grimdark horrible, and shit going wrong was mostly not intended. Now VT's just a bunch of bad cartoon villains and almost everything was made to suck for the residents.
So we're all in agreement that Mr House is the best choice for New Vegas right?
Easily. He's the only one who really "gets it". Legion's screwed if Caesar ever dies. NCR is incompetent and extremely mismanaged. A mailman can't run a nation-state effectively.
 
At least in the older lore Vault-Tec was still more sensible than current 4/76 lore. Even the vaults that were experimental weren't always grimdark horrible, and shit going wrong was mostly not intended. Now VT's just a bunch of bad cartoon villains and almost everything was made to suck for the residents.

Easily. He's the only one who really "gets it". Legion's screwed if Caesar ever dies. NCR is incompetent and extremely mismanaged. A mailman can't run a nation-state effectively.
They've always been cartoon villains throughout the Fallout franchise. It makes NO FUCKING SENSE to run social experiments in the midst of the apocalypse. At most, it would make sense if .1% of the vaults were social experiments, and those would be the vaults with criminals, political dissidents, and retards shoved inside, while the rest of the vaults train workers and soldiers so that when the Enclave emerges from the shadows, they'll have a large stock of manpower for their operations instead of having just 1000 yahoos aboard an oil rig that can easily be destroyed.

It depends on the Courier. A highly-educated Courier who's as smart as say, Arcade Gannon, can probably take House's plans through Yes Man and manage things well. As for the Legion, it may or may not survive Caesar's death, especially since Lanius sees the west as a trap and sees the strain it placed on the NCR. More likely, he will consolidate power in the east until it's stabilized before making a bid for power in the Mojave again. As for the NCR, they've already won once, against Joshua Graham, and they still managed to fuck it up. What makes you think winning a second time will change anything for them?
 
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They've always been cartoon villains throughout the Fallout franchise. It makes NO FUCKING SENSE to run social experiments in the midst of the apocalypse. At most, it would make sense if .1% of the vaults were social experiments, and those would be the vaults with criminals, political dissidents, and retards shoved inside, while the rest of the vaults train workers and soldiers so that when the Enclave emerges from the shadows, they'll have a large stock of manpower for their operations instead of having just 1000 yahoos aboard an oil rig that can easily be destroyed.

It depends on the Courier. A highly-educated Courier who's as smart as say, Arcade Gannon, can probably take House's plans through Yes Man and manage things well. As for the Legion, it may or may not survive Caesar's death, especially since Lanius sees the west as a trap and sees the strain it placed on the NCR. More likely, he will consolidate power in the east until it's stabilized before making a bid for power in the MOjave again. As for the NCR, they've already won once, against Joshua Graham, and they still managed to fuck it up. What makes you think winning a second time will change anything for them?
Far as the experiments went, I thought they'd just keep some tabs on them through a network or something with an overseer, kinda like with the Gecko power plant in how you can use a computer there to speak with an Enclave trooper on the oil rig. I'd assume they'd use that to get reports back from an overseer for the space travel program they threw away after finding out about the FEV.
 
Far as the experiments went, I thought they'd just keep some tabs on them through a network or something with an overseer, kinda like with the Gecko power plant in how you can use a computer there to speak with an Enclave trooper on the oil rig. I'd assume they'd use that to get reports back from an overseer for the space travel program they threw away after finding out about the FEV.
Nobody even benefited from the experiments, as far as canon goes. Unless you want to count Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel as canon and maybe someone in the Secret Vault was poring over the experiment results. All these experiments, all the suffering they caused. All for nothing, since even the Enclave didn't benefit from it and just decided to genocide the wasteland instead.
 
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