Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

The left was bitching about electronic voting being hacked (and Dominion in particular) prior to the election. Bernie was likely cheated out of the 2016 nomination by mass voter fraud.

This isn't a left/right thing it's an establishment shutting down anything they feel is a threat to them thing. Rest assured if there was some left wing populist that wanted to nationalize healthcare and downsize the military industrial sector they'd be getting fucked over as well.

However because TDS none of that matters. Even when literal videos are posted of poll watchers being kicked out of counting centers and gov workers papering over windows so no one can see what they're doing, it's all hand waived away by some reference to Politico or the NYT.

What this has confirmed to me is that all that matters now in politics is the raw exercise of power and fairness in the process be damned. However without the loser's consent actually exercising power becomes difficult to impossible. Unless Biden is prepared to bring in no shit totalitarian measures he's likely to get jack shit done over the next 4 years as half the country doesn't just think, but believes in their bones, that he's a demented old puppet that was gifted the Presidency by a corrupt elite through a fraudulent vote.

It's sad there's so many people who are stuck in the mindset of "if the guy I like wins it's fair, if he loses it's fraud".

Here's some complaints about Dominion from 2013:

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

A pollster writing for the Spectator comments on the election

https://spectator.us/reasons-why-the-2020-presidential-election-is-deeply-puzzling/

You know things are bad for The Spectator when they can only get a crank well-known for lying about his own credentials to author a piece trying to call into question the credibility of an election.

Trump must be disappointed his approval of Mossad assassinating an Iranian nuclear scientist hasn’t started a war to distract from his adult diaper wearing shame.

The Israelis knew damn well they needed to kill that scientist before Trump left office, because there’s no way Biden would have approved. No country has quietly milked Trump to get what they want better than Israel.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

You know things are bad for The Spectator when they can only get a crank well-known for lying about his own credentials to author a piece trying to call into question the credibility of an election.

Trump must be disappointed his approval of Mossad assassinating an Iranian nuclear scientist hasn’t started a war to distract from his adult diaper wearing shame.

The Israelis knew damn well they needed to kill that scientist before Trump left office, because there’s no way Biden would have approved. No country has quietly milked Trump to get what they want better than Israel.

What makes you think Biden and Kamala wouldn't bend over for Israel?

 

[Paranoia Machine]

I enjoy that two and a half hours ago I asked for a reliable source of news since MSM is not to be trusted, and was given all of nothing.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.15.pdf

https://archive.md/mmYST

No matter which side you stand on, this should be worrying.

Like one of our old friends in the Manosphere once said:

 

[Norvic]

You know things are bad for The Spectator when they can only get a crank well-known for lying about his own credentials to author a piece trying to call into question the credibility of an election.

Trump must be disappointed his approval of Mossad assassinating an Iranian nuclear scientist hasn’t started a war to distract from his adult diaper wearing shame.

The Israelis knew damn well they needed to kill that scientist before Trump left office, because there’s no way Biden would have approved. No country has quietly milked Trump to get what they want better than Israel.

Not to mention it's just a tired rehash of the same old shit.
Look, it's time to put up or shut up. If you think any of that shit is real, then take it before a judge. All of those claims have already been thrown out of court ("poll watchers excluded", "late ballots counted") or they've never been argued. They've had three weeks to file. Why is it that the only lawsuits that have been filed having nothing to do with fraud but everything to do with the same old Republican tactic of disenfranchising poor and black people?

You may be an idiot brainwashed in to thinking all this shit is real, but even that senile crank Rudy wouldn't try taking this stuff to court. Hell, they even cut ties with Sidney Powell because she was actually crazy enough to believe the shit they're cranking out.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

I enjoy that two and a half hours ago I asked for a reliable source of news since MSM is not to be trusted, and was given all of nothing.

I think there's no reliable source right now. Most people who want to spread accurate information suck at fact checking and are prone to letting their emotions get in the way. You gotta look at various sources from both sides and decide for yourself what seems the most plausible.

Not to mention it's just a tired rehash of the same old shit.
Look, it's time to put up or shut up. If you think any of that shit is real, then take it before a judge. All of those claims have already been thrown out of court ("poll watchers excluded", "late ballots counted") or they've never been argued. They've had three weeks to file. Why is it that the only lawsuits that have been filed having nothing to do with fraud but everything to do with the same old Republican tactic of disenfranchising poor and black people?

You may be an idiot brainwashed in to thinking all this shit is real, but even that senile crank Rudy wouldn't try taking this stuff to court. Hell, they even cut ties with Sidney Powell because she was actually crazy enough to believe the shit they're cranking out.

What's wrong with this?

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.19.pdf

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[Bosmadden]

It's sad there's so many people who are stuck in the mindset of "if the guy I like wins it's fair, if he loses it's fraud".

Here's some complaints about Dominion from 2013:
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Why is it that a private corporation, with an opaque ownership structure, has been tasked with tabulating the results of elections? Not just in the US but all over the world?

Is our government not able to perform this task? By all accounts we put a man on the moon. The NSA can data log every phone call and email ever made. But record ballots and put the results on a spreadsheet, nah that's just too darned hard. Best get the Venezuelans to do that for us.

Why is it that Biden got a lower share of the black vote than Obama everywhere except in a few big cities in vital swing states where he got a much, much higher number of African American voters than the black Jesus himself.

Do black people in Detroit and Milwaukee just have a thing for generic old white boomers with cognitive issues who make the occasional borderline racist remark? Yeah that must be it.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Why is it that Biden got a lower share of the black vote than Obama everywhere except in a few big cities in vital swing states where he got a much, much higher number of African American voters than the black Jesus himself.

Do black people in Detroit and Milwaukee just have a thing for generic old white boomers with cognitive issues who make the occasional borderline racist remark? Yeah that must be it.

The argument is that they just hated Trump so much that they went in droves to vote against him, but I don't buy it. African Americans don't usually care about voting to that degree. Even Tariq Nasheed who usually posts hard left "black power" stuff said it was fishy.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

What makes you think Biden and Kamala wouldn't bend over for Israel?

They don’t have Jared Kushner as their son-in-law and trusted confidant?

Biden will be a friend to Israel, as all US administrations are, but Trump has bent over for Israel in totally unprecedented ways. Moving the US embassy to Jerusalem was a major coup for Israel, one that no other past president would consider.

There’s a reason the right-wing Orthodox Jews have supported Trump so vigorously and that turbo-Jew Sheldon Adelson has remained one of Trump’s biggest donors. Kushner’s main job has been to ensure Israel gets what it wants out of Trump and it’s been the one job he’s had success at during the last four years, but only because Israeli politicians are very smart and Kushner is very dumb.

 

[Norvic]

What's wrong with this?

Imagine seriously citing the batshit crazy Sidney Powell Hugo Chavez stole the election lawsuit.
I'll wait until next week when it's thrown out and then just quote the judge's opinion in full.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

They don’t have Jared Kushner as their son-in-law and trusted confidant?

Biden will be friends to Israeli as all US administrations are but Trump has bent over for Israel in totally unprecedented ways. Moving the US embassy to Jerusalem was a major coup for Israel, one that no other past president would consider.

There’s a reason the right-wing Orthodox Jews have supported Trump so vigorously and that turbo-Jew Sheldon Adelson has remained one of Trump’s biggest donors. Kushner’s main job has been to ensure Israel gets what it wants out of Trump and it’s been the one job he’s had success at during the last four years, but only because Israeli politicians are very smart and Kushner is very dumb.

Good point. All of Biden's in-laws and grandkids are Jews, but they're not religious or hold that much control over him as far as I know. Kamala has no Jewish relatives at all. EDIT: nevermind lol she's married to a Jew

Imagine seriously citing the batshit crazy Sidney Powell Hugo Chavez stole the election lawsuit.
I'll wait until next week when it's thrown out and then just quote the judge's opinion in full.

I'm citing Sidney Powell's sources who seem to have plenty of cybersecurity experience. I'm eager to see what the judges have to say, I suppose we'll see.

 

[mindlessobserver]

It's starting to look like the Pennsylvania legislature is getting ready to pull the nuclear option and assert it's full control over the electors.

Keep in mind folks, according to the constitution the Presidential electors are appointed by the State Legislatures. By whatever means they deem appropriate. Letting the general citizenry vote on them is a courtesy, not a right.

Let chaos reign if they do.

 

[Paranoia Machine]

Why is it that a private corporation, with an opaque ownership structure, has been tasked with tabulating the results of elections? Not just in the US but all over the world?

Is our government not able to perform this task? By all accounts we put a man on the moon. The NSA can data log every phone call and email ever made. But record ballots and put the results on a spreadsheet, nah that's just too darned hard. Best get the Venezuelans to do that for us.

Dude, do you know anything about our government's delegation of work?
Our government hires and outsources all forms of work to thousands of corporations through contracts.
I'd like to point out that even some of our most clandestine affairs are not handled by the government themselves, but by government-contracted companies.
For instance, one of my drinking buddies is part of a two-man company that were contracted to program surface to air guidance systems for missiles used on aircraft carriers.
Another drinking buddy's dad works for a manufacturing plant in Connecticut that builds nuclear submarines.
The only thing that was provided by the government to these guys' jobs were military security.
Outside of that the only thing that keeps them from being liabilities is tons of government contracts that say if they do anything they aren't supposed to, it can be seen as treason and they will be handled accordingly.

Even smaller things like healthcare are not owned by the government. Each healthcare service is given to different firms via contract auctions. As a matter of fact, my family works in healthcare almost exclusively and we have had to move locations based on where contracts end up.
Example, a large portion of Medicaide and Medi-Cal coding and cataloging was done by EDS back in the early 2000s, they got bought out by HP in 2010, lost their contracts, a large portion of them went to Blue Shield, and another large portion went to Progressive.

The government literally delegates everything. So before you start making claims that its fishy that an outside firm does something for the government, try knowing how the government handles its business first.

 

[Norvic]

I'm citing Sidney Powell's sources who seem to have plenty of cybersecurity experience. I'm eager to see what the judges have to say, I suppose we'll see.

To give a small preview, if you accept that these guys really have relevant domain knowledge and are not cranks, what they are trying to establish is that it is POSSIBLE that vote totals were changed electronically, not that it actually happened.

If you're going to argue that it actually happened then you somehow need to explain the fact that the original paper ballots when hand counted during the audit process basically came up with the same results as the scanning machines.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Dude, do you know anything about our government's delegation of work?
Our government hires and outsources all forms of work to thousands of corporations through contracts.
I'd like to point out that even some of our most clandestine affairs are not handled by the government themselves, but by government-contracted companies.
For instance, one of my drinking buddies is part of a two-man company that were contracted to program surface to air guidance systems for missiles used on aircraft carriers.
Another drinking buddy's dad works for a manufacturing plant in Connecticut that builds nuclear submarines.
The only thing that was provided by the government to these guys' jobs were military security.
Outside of that the only thing that keeps them from being liabilities is tons of government contracts that say if they do anything they aren't supposed to, it can be seen as treason and they will be handled accordingly.

Even smaller things like healthcare are not owned by the government. Each healthcare service is given to different firms via contract auctions. As a matter of fact, my family works in healthcare almost exclusively and we have had to move locations based on where contracts end up.
Example, a large portion of Medicaide and Medi-Cal coding and cataloging was done by EDS back in the early 2000s, they got bought out by HP in 2010, lost their contracts, a large portion of them went to Blue Shield, and another large portion went to Progressive.

The government literally delegates everything. So before you start making claims that its fishy that an outside firm does something for the government, try knowing how the government handles its business first.

Isn't it risky to let foreign powers have a hand in voting systems, though? The US elections are a big deal, foreigners have plenty of incentives to make the machines vulnerable. This is particularly true when said foreign powers are our enemies.

To give a small preview, if you accept that these guys really have relevant domain knowledge and are not cranks, what they are trying to establish is that it is POSSIBLE that vote totals were changed electronically, not that it actually happened.

If you're going to argue that it actually happened then you somehow need to explain the fact that the original paper ballots when hand counted during the audit process basically came up with the same results as the scanning machines.

They're saying it happened. No clue about the paper ballots, though.

I have advanced training from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), National Security Agency (NSA), DHS office of Intelligence & Analysis (I&A) and Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). 3. I am employed by a large defense contractor as a chief cyber security engineer and a subject-matter expert in cyber security. During my career, I have conducted security assessment, data analysis and security counterintelligence, and forensics investigations on hundreds of systems. My experience spans 35 years performing technical assessment, mathematical modeling, cyber-attack pattern analysis, and security counterintelligence linked to FIS operators, including China, Iran, North Korea, and Russia. I have worked as a consultant and subject-matter expert supporting the Department of Defense, FBI and US Intelligence Community (USIC) agencies such as the DIA, CIA, NSA, NGA, and the DHS I&A supporting counterintelligence, including supporting law enforcement investigations.

A Man-in-the-Middle (MITM) cyber attack was carried out by covert operators using sophisticated tools, such as Hammer and Scorecard. The MITM attack occurred in two ways. Initially, remote operatives used USB memory cards containing cryptographic keys and access system backdoors to alter votes in battleground states. Subsequently, the results were forwarded to Scytl/SOE Software servers located in Frankfurt, Germany (previously, Barcelona, Spain). The MITM attack was structured to ensure sufficient data alteration had occurred prior to forwarding the tallied results to the Scytl/eClarity Software Electronic Night Reporting (ENR) system. The reason election data are forwarded overseas is to avoid detection and monitoring by the USIC to obfuscate the MITM.

I conclude with high confidence that the election 2020 data were altered in all battleground states resulting in a hundreds of thousands of votes that were cast for President Trump to be transferred to Vice President Biden. These alterations were the result of systemic and widespread exploitable vulnerabilities in DVS, Scytl/SOE Software and Smartmatic systems that enabled operators to achieve the desired results. In my view, the evidence is overwhelming and incontrovertible.

I was an electronic intelligence analyst under 305th Military Intelligence with experience gathering SAM missile system electronic intelligence. I have extensive experience as a white hat hacker used by some of the top election specialists in the world. The methodologies I have employed represent industry standard cyber operation toolkits for digital forensics and OSINT, which are commonly used to certify connections between servers, network nodes and other digital properties and probe to network system vulnerabilities

Dominionvoting is also dominionvotingsystems.com, of which there are also many more examples, including access of the network from China. The records of China accessing the server are reliable.

In my professional opinion, this affidavit presents unambiguous evidence that Dominion Voter Systems and Edison Research have been accessible and were certainly compromised by rogue actors, such as Iran and China. By using servers and employees connected with rogue actors and hostile foreign influences combined with numerous easily discoverable leaked credentials, these organizations neglectfully allowed foreign adversaries to access data and intentionally provided access to their infrastructure in order to monitor and manipulate elections, including the most recent one in 2020. This represents a complete failure of their duty to provide basic cyber security. This is not a technological issue, but rather a governance and basic security issue: if it is not corrected, future elections in the United States and beyond will not be secure and citizens will not have confidence in the results.

 

[Norvic]

They're saying it happened. No clue about the paper ballots, though.

OK then apply Ockham's Razor. On the one hand, you have a lawsuit filed by a crank who has affidavits from supposed domain experts claiming the election results were changed electronically. On the other hand, you have the a state mandated audit process for close election whereby the ballots are hand counted that came up with the same results as the counting machines.

Which is more likely: that the affidavits are wrong, or that everyone involved in counting the ballots is an "agent of China or Iran"?

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

OK then apply Ockham's Razor. On the one hand, you have a lawsuit filed by a crank, who has affidavits from supposed domain experts claiming the election results were changed electronically. On the other hand, you have the a state mandated audit process for close election whereby the ballots are hand counted that came up with the same results as the counting machines.

Which is more likely, that the affidavits are wrong, or that everyone involved in counting the ballots is an "agent of China or Iran"?

Not sure. Most people involved in ballot counting probably meant well. That does seem to be a glaring issue with Sidney's argument. I'm gonna need to do more research.

 

[FatalTater]

There are protests today in Lansin Michigan and other places over election BS.
PLEASE don't go out and protest. It's a trap. No good will come of it. Stay home and write letters to your congressman or Penthouse or whatever people write letters to when they're frustrated. Shouting at each other in the street just makes you vulnerable and possibly puts you in the postition to be used as a pawn in some weird thing.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

There are protests today in Lansin Michigan and other places over election BS.
PLEASE don't go out and protest. It's a trap. No good will come of it. Stay home and write letters to your congressman or Penthouse or whatever people write letters to when they're frustrated. Shouting at each other in the street just makes you vulnerable and possibly puts you in the postition to be used as a pawn in some weird thing.

More than shouting happens at protests nowadays. Antifa always shows up and starts fights because they're convinced Trump is Hitler. It's definitely not safe to go unless you're prepared to fight.