Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

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Halos have distinct scars, and they aren't used for hours/couple of days. Scar tissue, especially in the beginning doesn't have hair growing out it. For someone claiming EDS the scar looks damn good.

I knew a guy in high school who broke his neck diving into a swimming pool. He ended up a quadriplegic. I went to visit him a week or so after he finally came home from the hospital and he had these awful deep still-healing puncture wounds around his head. He told me it was from the halo and explained to me what that is. He told me that it was literally screwed, with bone screws, deep into his skull. It was in place for three months. When he had to go back in for more surgery I visited him at a hospital known for treating spinal injuries and I saw more people in halos. Halos are terrifying shit straight out of Hellraiser, not something you put on and take off like a hat.

I know it's not a shock to anyone, but wow is this person lying.
 
If these people (with REAL SERIOUS MEDICAL PROBLEMS) are regularly ignored like this...how the fuck is it that munchies are supposedly able to get everything they want, like special IVs and ports they don’t need, let alone even a fraction of the attention/concern that actual sick people get from doctors and nurses? I would LOVE to see a video of a munchie throwing a tantrum at a hospital and see how medical staff actually handles the situation versus what they say happens on their happy shiny instagrams.

I don’t doubt some people in the comments are stretching the truth (let’s be honest probably all of them) but I would also like to know how the hell munchies are getting their unnecessary surgeries and hospital stays, because I and plenty of people I know have been ignored by doctors when we shouldn’t have been. I don’t know about the first person saying the doctor recommended she be punished for faking, but when you’re a kid with a vague symptoms like nausea and fast heart rate and you’re too young/scared to explain it well, it’s easy for a panic attack to be overlooked as “faking it.” And don’t get me started on genuine mental disorders being dismissed as “your kid is just shitty.”

That’s why I’m bewildered, especially in the case of America’s fucked up health care system, how munchies are getting the treatments they want when there’s nothing even wrong with them while people who genuinely do have something wrong get overlooked unless they’re bleeding out to death. Is it really just about throwing a tantrum until the staff give you in to make you shut up?
 
I don’t doubt some people in the comments are stretching the truth (let’s be honest probably all of them) but I would also like to know how the hell munchies are getting their unnecessary surgeries and hospital stays, because I and plenty of people I know have been ignored by doctors when we shouldn’t have been. I don’t know about the first person saying the doctor recommended she be punished for faking, but when you’re a kid with a vague symptoms like nausea and fast heart rate and you’re too young/scared to explain it well, it’s easy for a panic attack to be overlooked as “faking it.” And don’t get me started on genuine mental disorders being dismissed as “your kid is just shitty.”

That’s why I’m bewildered, especially in the case of America’s fucked up health care system, how munchies are getting the treatments they want when there’s nothing even wrong with them while people who genuinely do have something wrong get overlooked unless they’re bleeding out to death. Is it really just about throwing a tantrum until the staff give you in to make you shut up?
The answer is doctor shopping. You will notice a pattern with these munchies - they all see the same doctors.
 
The answer is doctor shopping. You will notice a pattern with these munchies - they all see the same doctors.
That’s also something that confuses me, and if any US medikiwis can help: are you not required to give a verifiable medical history when you’re demanding something as severe as a port? Like, I doubt anybody thoroughly checks your history if you’re just coming into the clinic with a cold, but when you’re trying to convince medical staff that you have something THAT serious going on with you, wouldn’t they want to know more about your health background or whatever and inevitably discover that you’ve been to a suspicious amount of doctors?

I don’t know if I’m making my question clear because I’m thankfully healthy enough to know jackshit about how hospitals work, but I figured there was some way that a doctor who’s suspicious of The Munch could check to see if their patient has actually been shopping at every hospital in the state before their appointment. I guess there’s the issue of privacy?
 
Found one in the wild. Meet Lucy Cottier, 20 year old Australian with EDS, POTS, PCOS, endometriosis, DID, anorexia, hearing loss, alcoholism, memory loss, “suspected chiari malformation” (she got tested and they told her it was anxiety induced and she was NOT happy), etc. 2 years ago she had Tourettes, but seems to have miraculously recovered since then.

Lucy has a wheelchair and a catheter (she loves to pose with her piss bag on her lap and sometimes the tube in her mouth), claims her shoulders were dislocated for months on end earlier this year, and just has terrible medical luck, including being attacked by a fucking bird at the hospital. She loves nothing more than documenting how sicky sick sick she is. She flip flops constantly between praising medical staff and bitching about how incompetent they are, depending on if she gets the diagnosis she wants or not.

Lucy has full time carers and got herself a shiny free power chair. She has broken 2 previous mobility scooters by running herself into walls like a fucking sped, but she was probably just drunk.

Lucy has a bit of a timeline problem, one post she says shes had her catheter for “2 almost 3 years” and another she says its been exactly a year and 8 days. She will also post about how sicky sick she is immediately before/after posting photos of her out at the bar getting drunk (see: the “pray for my head” post). Nurses and doctors tell her she is faking, a doctor called her a “fucking crazy bitch”, and they accuse her of being a drug seeker, which she most definitely is not! She is most active on Facebook, but her TikTok has some gems, as well both of her YouTube channels. Her Facebook is literally full of this shit.

This is Lucy in February of this year vs Lucy today.

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Its like the opposite of a speedy-recovery but a speedy decline. I am guessing these are all self imposed conditions?
 
I don’t know about the first person saying the doctor recommended she be punished for faking, but when you’re a kid with a vague symptoms like nausea and fast heart rate and you’re too young/scared to explain it well, it’s easy for a panic attack to be overlooked as “faking it.” And don’t get me started on genuine mental disorders being dismissed as “your kid is just shitty.”
We have an entire INDUSTRY in the US built around ignoring mental problems in kids and just calling them shitty! The "troubled teen" industry is a huge fucking money maker, that is essentially paid for child abuse, because God forbid when your kid is acting out or having issues you actually try to sort of the why instead of shipping them off and abandoning them to adults who don't give 2 shits about anything other than your money. Sorry for the sperg, its a sensitive topic.

I also wonder how they manage to doctor shop during a pandemic, when their precious doctors are actually super busy dealing with actual sick people
 
Paige is claiming that the hospital are going to get her an antibiotic that has previously sent her in to anaphylactic shock but is her only option now... again not going to capture the video because they never have anything worth capturing in... it’s just some clips of the hospitals and pumps... and her face with a toob over some shitty music. Tik Tok for you.
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That’s also something that confuses me, and if any US medikiwis can help: are you not required to give a verifiable medical history when you’re demanding something as severe as a port? Like, I doubt anybody thoroughly checks your history if you’re just coming into the clinic with a cold, but when you’re trying to convince medical staff that you have something THAT serious going on with you, wouldn’t they want to know more about your health background or whatever and inevitably discover that you’ve been to a suspicious amount of doctors?

I don’t know if I’m making my question clear because I’m thankfully healthy enough to know jackshit about how hospitals work, but I figured there was some way that a doctor who’s suspicious of The Munch could check to see if their patient has actually been shopping at every hospital in the state before their appointment. I guess there’s the issue of privacy?

This, and the other questions people are posting, is where the actual munch comes in. You'll note that munchies don't get chemo, radiation, dialysis, or any of the treatments reserved for illnesses that...
A) have objective symptoms which
B) can't be self-induced or anxiety induced

They all have tubes because you can induce or fake the problems that require tubes. And even if you are clearly munching, the doctor fears that if s/he doesn't help, you'll hurt yourself permanently. And they are unlikely to be sued for giving a pointless procedure, but if you end up being that 1% who actually has the issue.... They'll be sued in a heartbeat.
 
Paige is claiming that the hospital are going to get her an antibiotic that has previously sent her in to anaphylactic shock but is her only option now... again not going to capture the video because they never have anything worth capturing in... it’s just some clips of the hospitals and pumps... and her face with a toob over some shitty music. Tik Tok for you.
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She is so brave...I myself would never have the guts to boldface lie online like that. What an inspiration!
 
That’s also something that confuses me, and if any US medikiwis can help: are you not required to give a verifiable medical history when you’re demanding something as severe as a port? Like, I doubt anybody thoroughly checks your history if you’re just coming into the clinic with a cold, but when you’re trying to convince medical staff that you have something THAT serious going on with you, wouldn’t they want to know more about your health background or whatever and inevitably discover that you’ve been to a suspicious amount of doctors?

I don’t know if I’m making my question clear because I’m thankfully healthy enough to know jackshit about how hospitals work, but I figured there was some way that a doctor who’s suspicious of The Munch could check to see if their patient has actually been shopping at every hospital in the state before their appointment. I guess there’s the issue of privacy?

From what i've seen, at a vast majority of places nobody checks the history/ chart. I've been going to the same clinic for the last 5 years (admittedly not often, but still) and EVERY time i go in i have to explain things that i have specifically asked them to annotate in my chart, like that i outgrew a childhood iodine allergy. Yet every time im sitting in the room, they say "and you're allergic to iodine, right?". Because it's on page 1 of the chart and they cant be bothered to look at anything else. In some cases, they're just shit, in other cases they're too busy or their caseload is too big to take the time to even skim someone's chart for the basics, so whatever the patient tells them, they assume it's accurate.

I saw a woman admitted to the psych hospital twice in a year. Her psychiatrist had told her she was schizophrenic, and she had no reason to question him. So when several months after her baby was born, she began hearing voices telling her to hurt the baby, she assumed it was a schizophrenic episode and admitted herself for a med adjustment. The hospital didnt really look into it, just threw anti-psychotic medication at her until she was "stable" and sent her home. Some months later she attempted suicide and was diagnosed with post-partum depression, and medicated accordingly. That was expected to be the end of it, except she was in and out of the hospital a couple of times a year because even the "overkill" schizophrenia treatments did not really work (things like Clozapine et al). Finally, a doctor actually read her chart. And noticed that while she was often admitted for psychosis, it was frequently accompanied by severe agitation, pressured speech, inability to sleep etc. And other times she was admitted for suicidal depression, which the previous doctors had been kinda cramming into a psychosis-shaped box because they had been told her dx was schizophrenia and while depressive symptoms arent unheard of with that condition, the severity she was experiencing did not really fit the dx. The doctor realized that the woman was actually suffering from bipolar 1, and that her symptoms after the baby was born were actually post-partum psychosis which a bipolar patient is at increased risk for. The moral of this really long-winded story? Doctors very often rely on patient-reported information such as diagnoses, and dont do much digging. So if a patient walks in and says "i have X disease previously diagnosed, and i want treatment for it", there's a good chance the doctor will take that at face value rather than go to the trouble of starting the whole differential process over again.

For a genuinely sick patient, this can mean the wrong diagnosis can follow you around for years because nobody's willing to do the legwork to look deeper, and you've got no reason (being not a doctor yourself) to believe the diagnosis might be wrong. For a munchie, it means that if you can get a doctor just to say something like "it might be EDS", for example, that's enough grounds to say a doctor "diagnosed" you, and you can take that to the next doctor with full confidence that they will believe it.
 
I knew a guy in high school who broke his neck diving into a swimming pool. He ended up a quadriplegic. I went to visit him a week or so after he finally came home from the hospital and he had these awful deep still-healing puncture wounds around his head. He told me it was from the halo and explained to me what that is. He told me that it was literally screwed, with bone screws, deep into his skull. It was in place for three months. When he had to go back in for more surgery I visited him at a hospital known for treating spinal injuries and I saw more people in halos. Halos are terrifying shit straight out of Hellraiser, not something you put on and take off like a hat.

I know it's not a shock to anyone, but wow is this person lying.

Yep, sounds like a legitimate halo experience. The halo drama had me slightly MOTI because her pics and explanation aren't at all how any of it fucking works.

If I had the time, I'd love to post some pictures of what my halo looked like immediately after insertion (which includes the necessary head shaving in those areas which is done somewhat messily because if you need a halo, your injury is severe enough to leave you paralyzed-- the doctors aren't trying to give you a haircut), upon removal months later, and the pink circular scars along the hairline (you can see the two in the front where the metal/steel whatever was drilled in, but my hair covers to back two scars. I have no doubt this isn't uncommon.) They are pink circular indents the size of a dime visible 11 years later and hair doesn't grow in any of the four spots.

If any of these munchies had a halo with a vest, they'd be milking that shit daily for months. They'd probably hold on to the smelly wool lined hard shelled vest that covers an unwashed body for months too for sentimental purposes.
 
Oh, I cannot wait for the reeeeeee'ing from munchies with their "registered emotional support animals"


 
From what i've seen, at a vast majority of places nobody checks the history/ chart. I've been going to the same clinic for the last 5 years (admittedly not often, but still) and EVERY time i go in i have to explain things that i have specifically asked them to annotate in my chart, like that i outgrew a childhood iodine allergy. Yet every time im sitting in the room, they say "and you're allergic to iodine, right?". Because it's on page 1 of the chart and they cant be bothered to look at anything else. In some cases, they're just shit, in other cases they're too busy or their caseload is too big to take the time to even skim someone's chart for the basics, so whatever the patient tells them, they assume it's accurate.

I saw a woman admitted to the psych hospital twice in a year. Her psychiatrist had told her she was schizophrenic, and she had no reason to question him. So when several months after her baby was born, she began hearing voices telling her to hurt the baby, she assumed it was a schizophrenic episode and admitted herself for a med adjustment. The hospital didnt really look into it, just threw anti-psychotic medication at her until she was "stable" and sent her home. Some months later she attempted suicide and was diagnosed with post-partum depression, and medicated accordingly. That was expected to be the end of it, except she was in and out of the hospital a couple of times a year because even the "overkill" schizophrenia treatments did not really work (things like Clozapine et al). Finally, a doctor actually read her chart. And noticed that while she was often admitted for psychosis, it was frequently accompanied by severe agitation, pressured speech, inability to sleep etc. And other times she was admitted for suicidal depression, which the previous doctors had been kinda cramming into a psychosis-shaped box because they had been told her dx was schizophrenia and while depressive symptoms arent unheard of with that condition, the severity she was experiencing did not really fit the dx. The doctor realized that the woman was actually suffering from bipolar 1, and that her symptoms after the baby was born were actually post-partum psychosis which a bipolar patient is at increased risk for. The moral of this really long-winded story? Doctors very often rely on patient-reported information such as diagnoses, and dont do much digging. So if a patient walks in and says "i have X disease previously diagnosed, and i want treatment for it", there's a good chance the doctor will take that at face value rather than go to the trouble of starting the whole differential process over again.

For a genuinely sick patient, this can mean the wrong diagnosis can follow you around for years because nobody's willing to do the legwork to look deeper, and you've got no reason (being not a doctor yourself) to believe the diagnosis might be wrong. For a munchie, it means that if you can get a doctor just to say something like "it might be EDS", for example, that's enough grounds to say a doctor "diagnosed" you, and you can take that to the next doctor with full confidence that they will believe it.
This seems to be very common. My doctor retired so another at the same office took over. I have a medical condition that effects my day to day life, it's right there in my file, and the new doctor knew nothing about it. I had to tell her I had it. A family member with the same condition had a similar experience. Very frustrating and sometimes dangerous.
 
This seems to be very common. My doctor retired so another at the same office took over. I have a medical condition that effects my day to day life, it's right there in my file, and the new doctor knew nothing about it. I had to tell her I had it. A family member with the same condition had a similar experience. Very frustrating and sometimes dangerous.

EHRs are pretty shitty honestly. It's like a shotgun blast of everything you've ever been diagnosed with in no particular order. Plus people end up with weird shit on their charts all the time thanks to insurance searching for specific ICD-9/10 codes for reimbursement.

If you live in the US you can request a copy of your medical chart from your PCP. It's worth doing to check if anything weird is on there. You're also allowed to submit corrections (although your physician can contest them, so...sorry munchies.)
 
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xanax acquired

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bitching because of the things people say to everyone who has any symptom or illness, this is annoying, but insanely common. Chances are if you've ever even had a cold, you've been given some bullshit advice, like 'eat better, work out, do yoga, try essential oils, crystals, etc" but this one takes it as a personal attack on her relying on her "medical aids" and threatens people with physical harm.

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now she's big mad and will literally die of malnutrition because someone took away her marinol, maybe the drug seeking should have stopped with the marinol instead of trying to get xanax too. or just get some fucking pot.
 
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