World Economic Forum Megathread (The Great Reset)

I think we've already had a Great Reset fairly recently, which really killed art and imagination. I'm not that old, but I remember growing up there were amusement parks, water parks, arcades, interactive museums, and historical replicas and now 90% of them are replaced by condos, box stores, and government buildings. Hell, even quite a few festivals no longer exist.

I was working on a few creative projects and even the relatively simple creative ideas have logistical issues, for example it's a pain to find someone to print trading cards for a homebrew game.
I’d agree with that. I’m not that old (born in the 70s) and thinking back how things have changed even since my childhood - just to take one example: the mainstream humour then was so much edgier. You couldn’t even make Monty Python now, let alone more recent stuff like Brass Eye. The world seems to have got more conformist, harsher, more violent and less funny. People just arent funny any more. Everything is poor quality, big box, conformist crap. We are surveilled. You can’t speak freely, you can’t laugh at things, and we are poorer for it.
When I was at uni I used to hang out with lads from the young tories, a few goths, at least one hardcore commie and people with all sorts of different opinions. Nobody really gave a toss, you could have a good pub based argument and then still be friends. I miss that. I miss feeling free.
 
I miss feeling free.
Fucking truth.

It's a thing I've encountered more and more in the last fifteen years, and the last five especially: that there could be rapport and debate between the politically opposed is somehow seen as anathema now, but for most of my life it was the norm, and in fact it was expected. Today, the very concept of civil discourse is seen as capitulation by the hard left, because apparently it's a dog whistle for allowing evul nazis the right to murder jews in public. The very word civility is a curse, an insult. When I was a (mature) uni student, it was entirely possible to argue politics with your peers, fundamentally disagree, and return to it again the next night without any rancour or resentment, but today, suggesting the idea of civil discourse is called violence, and the response is as predictable as rain at a summer bbq.

Some of my best mates back then were socialists, and some of my best nights were spent hanging around in their bar, debating the fundamental concept of socialism (rather than the details of which socialism they preferred) over cheap whisky and beer. If I tried that now, I'd be pilloried out of the entire university, and rendered a pariah for the rest of my days.
 
I think we've already had a Great Reset fairly recently, which really killed art and imagination. I'm not that old, but I remember growing up there were amusement parks, water parks, arcades, interactive museums, and historical replicas and now 90% of them are replaced by condos, box stores, and government buildings. Hell, even quite a few festivals no longer exist.

I was working on a few creative projects and even the relatively simple creative ideas have logistical issues, for example it's a pain to find someone to print trading cards for a homebrew game.

I think it's a mix of both the Internet and the lingering effects of the Great Recession

Like, there's this very palpable feeling of before and after with 2007-2008 as the dividing line, which is kind of where we get the whole meme about "2007 was the year the Internet went to shit" but everything was really fucked over by the Great Recession, even before "Current Year" began in earnest and the Woke Left hadn't fully formed

I think the Recession is what killed a lot of the edgy humor, the concept of having fun for the sake of it, of entertainment just being entertainment without having to have a "deep" tacked on meaning, and why we saw a rise in pretentious cynicism, "ironic" snark, and smug moral pseudo-intellectualism, particularly from the Left but it was present on the Right as well.

Even aesthetically, the bland and minimalistic earth-toned design of the 2010's seems like an overreaction to the gaudy and the garish looks of the 1990's and 2000's. There was something about the 90's consumer culture that still carried over into the first half of the 2000's that had this vibe of "Yeah, it's kitschy and tacky as all get out, but it's also extremely fun and enjoyable"

The mall culture of the 1990's (and also the late 80's and early 2000's) is a good example of this, as was stuff like Planet Hollywood and the Wal-Mart Radio Grill that was mentioned in another thread a few months ago. The "kid culture" of the 90's and early 2000's was probably the most over-the-top example of "kitschy tacky fun" but that just comes with the territory of marketing to kids and teens.

There was a nihilistic and "edgy" element to the 2000's cultural mindset in the US, but it was a lot more of a hedonistic and rebellious kind as opposed to the pretentious and sanctimonious "destroy capitalism and White people to stop Climate Change" cynicism of the 2010's and 2020.

The 2000's was a boisterous "party hard and fuck the world" brand of nihilism as opposed to a smug "Check your privilege, cis het male neckbeard incel Nazi shitlord" brand of cynicism we have in Current Year.

It all just feels like we overreacted to the dumber elements of the 1990's and 2000's cultural zeitgeists but in doing so, we overcorrected to the point of looping back around to the equal yet opposite excesses of Current Year

If the 2000 was "You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded" then 2020 is "You talk like a chud and your shit's all problematic"

It really feels like the cultural Great Reset has already happened with the Great Recession and things like the demise of rock music, "edgy" media, or even just having fun and enjoying life without being guilted for your unforgivable sin of "privilege" all more or less happened after 2008 and snowballed into the nightmare that is 2020
 
I think it's a mix of both the Internet and the lingering effects of the Great Recession

Like, there's this very palpable feeling of before and after with 2007-2008 as the dividing line, which is kind of where we get the whole meme about "2007 was the year the Internet went to shit" but everything was really fucked over by the Great Recession, even before "Current Year" began in earnest and the Woke Left hadn't fully formed

I think the Recession is what killed a lot of the edgy humor, the concept of having fun for the sake of it, of entertainment just being entertainment without having to have a "deep" tacked on meaning, and why we saw a rise in pretentious cynicism, "ironic" snark, and smug moral pseudo-intellectualism, particularly from the Left but it was present on the Right as well.

Even aesthetically, the bland and minimalistic earth-toned design of the 2010's seems like an overreaction to the gaudy and the garish looks of the 1990's and 2000's. There was something about the 90's consumer culture that still carried over into the first half of the 2000's that had this vibe of "Yeah, it's kitschy and tacky as all get out, but it's also extremely fun and enjoyable"

The mall culture of the 1990's (and also the late 80's and early 2000's) is a good example of this, as was stuff like Planet Hollywood and the Wal-Mart Radio Grill that was mentioned in another thread a few months ago. The "kid culture" of the 90's and early 2000's was probably the most over-the-top example of "kitschy tacky fun" but that just comes with the territory of marketing to kids and teens.

There was a nihilistic and "edgy" element to the 2000's cultural mindset in the US, but it was a lot more of a hedonistic and rebellious kind as opposed to the pretentious and sanctimonious "destroy capitalism and White people to stop Climate Change" cynicism of the 2010's and 2020.

The 2000's was a boisterous "party hard and fuck the world" brand of nihilism as opposed to a smug "Check your privilege, cis het male neckbeard incel Nazi shitlord" brand of cynicism we have in Current Year.

It all just feels like we overreacted to the dumber elements of the 1990's and 2000's cultural zeitgeists but in doing so, we overcorrected to the point of looping back around to the equal yet opposite excesses of Current Year

If the 2000 was "You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded" then 2020 is "You talk like a chud and your shit's all problematic"

It really feels like the cultural Great Reset has already happened with the Great Recession and things like the demise of rock music, "edgy" media, or even just having fun and enjoying life without being guilted for your unforgivable sin of "privilege" all more or less happened after 2008 and snowballed into the nightmare that is 2020
I think 9/11 was a death knell to the happy-big-spender-big-box-mall era of the 1990s. Plenty of people made bank off the "new economy" of computers in the 90s, but it started to wane right before 2000. Until that time, you could just be a used car salesman with a basic community college computer degree and get a six figure salary selling computer systems to schools and businesses. Right around the dot-com bust, people were happier and had money to spend. 9-11 really put an end to that time.

9-11 was like one of those opportunities to push for the patriot act, and for all sorts of social/cultural changes to happen quickly. Jobs that involved social services and social safety nets seemed to disappear (at least in the US) because Republicans were often re-elected in key positions and they slashed funds for anything that wasn't directly related to business or defense. (Not implying the alternative would have been a better option, but Republicans usually slash social service programs and pile money into US defense.) Up until 9-11, people still criticized Bush 2's election. After 9-11, it became sacrilege and blasphemy to question Bush 2. People all over the country drove with US flags on their cars for months afterwards.

Post 9-11 was when it really started becoming useless to have "just any college degree". Ask me how I know this. I think 9-11 provided an excuse for companies to downsize dramatically and cut their employment numbers.

I think the overall quality of living declined a great deal for people post 9/11, but shit didn't really hit the fan for a lot of people until the recession of 2008... it was a downhill situation from there. People lost their jobs to automation and outsourcing by the droves.

Internet seemed to take a major nose dive somewhere around 2008-2013 with the social media and smart phone phenomenon. Search engines like google are useless for practical information nowadays. Everything online seems centralized, censored and controlled whereas for years you could find a wealth of truly useful knowledge online. Long gone are great forums like this one on special topics-- now you have to go to large politicized places like Reddit where psycho activist mods ban and stalk people for the most bizarre reasons. Even dumb things like shopping for furniture have become a nightmare online, as every search engine will push you towards the same four websites, and NOT towards smaller sites that have better prices or better quality. Google is now sinister to me, with a targeted agenda. Just try to google a topic like "pedophilia" and you'll get tons of hits arguing that "pedophilia is natural". Google "domestic violence" and you'll get hit after hit about "violence against transwomen". It's as if the internet itself is one monolith with a specific agenda they want to brainwash people into swallowing.

Personally, I think those who want to push the Great Reset would DROOL at the thought of a WW3, or any additional major dramatic event like 9-11 or new pandemic like COVID. When people are afraid and uncertain, it's easier to push bullshit legislation, propaganda, and agendas without drawing negative attention from the public. Watching the news nowadays is mind-boggling... it's all about COVID panic and "orange man bad" and "check out these young kiddies on tik-tok!". Newspapers seem to be written by people who've grown up in a bubble far removed from everyday people. It's like there are so few places to get "real news" or the truth anymore.

Uhh no, that's impossible, if the rich were massive leeches to society, then why does everyone keep buying their products and making them more rich? It's because their products are the best possible products currently available to humanity thanks to our capitalistic society which ensures that everything operates at optimal efficiency. America has been operating under this system for a long time, if this was such a bad system America never would have became the world's greatest country and made leaps and bounds in improving society's quality of life and technology. If you don't like the rich, just vote with your wallet and stop buying their products. Then all of their revenue streams will dry up except for the ones coming from free market tax dollars, and they'll be less rich.
Well, I think the issue is when we have no alternative but to purchase certain items or use services from only a small number of providers. If big corporate can ensure legislation is enacted (via campaign contributions/bribes) to only benefit themselves while harming competitors, they can do whatever they wish in terms of screwing the public over, overcharging for services, squashing any competition that might actually be able to provide more efficient services.
If you have a beef with some social justice campaign Unilever, ConAgra or GE is pushing, good luck trying to AVOID using products or services related to them.
What's worse is when these mega conglomerates become so wealthy and powerful that they themselves can raise armies and develop weapons to destroy America... which many of them already seem capable of doing. Their wealthy CEOs can become war lords and dictators in their own right.
 
I think it's a mix of both the Internet and the lingering effects of the Great Recession

Like, there's this very palpable feeling of before and after with 2007-2008 as the dividing line, which is kind of where we get the whole meme about "2007 was the year the Internet went to shit" but everything was really fucked over by the Great Recession, even before "Current Year" began in earnest and the Woke Left hadn't fully formed

I think the Recession is what killed a lot of the edgy humor, the concept of having fun for the sake of it, of entertainment just being entertainment without having to have a "deep" tacked on meaning, and why we saw a rise in pretentious cynicism, "ironic" snark, and smug moral pseudo-intellectualism, particularly from the Left but it was present on the Right as well.

Even aesthetically, the bland and minimalistic earth-toned design of the 2010's seems like an overreaction to the gaudy and the garish looks of the 1990's and 2000's. There was something about the 90's consumer culture that still carried over into the first half of the 2000's that had this vibe of "Yeah, it's kitschy and tacky as all get out, but it's also extremely fun and enjoyable"

The mall culture of the 1990's (and also the late 80's and early 2000's) is a good example of this, as was stuff like Planet Hollywood and the Wal-Mart Radio Grill that was mentioned in another thread a few months ago. The "kid culture" of the 90's and early 2000's was probably the most over-the-top example of "kitschy tacky fun" but that just comes with the territory of marketing to kids and teens.

There was a nihilistic and "edgy" element to the 2000's cultural mindset in the US, but it was a lot more of a hedonistic and rebellious kind as opposed to the pretentious and sanctimonious "destroy capitalism and White people to stop Climate Change" cynicism of the 2010's and 2020.

The 2000's was a boisterous "party hard and fuck the world" brand of nihilism as opposed to a smug "Check your privilege, cis het male neckbeard incel Nazi shitlord" brand of cynicism we have in Current Year.

It all just feels like we overreacted to the dumber elements of the 1990's and 2000's cultural zeitgeists but in doing so, we overcorrected to the point of looping back around to the equal yet opposite excesses of Current Year

If the 2000 was "You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded" then 2020 is "You talk like a chud and your shit's all problematic"

It really feels like the cultural Great Reset has already happened with the Great Recession and things like the demise of rock music, "edgy" media, or even just having fun and enjoying life without being guilted for your unforgivable sin of "privilege" all more or less happened after 2008 and snowballed into the nightmare that is 2020

FUCK the 2010s. We need to go back, goddammit!






Internet seemed to take a major nose dive somewhere around 2008-2013 with the social media and smart phone phenomenon. Search engines like google are useless for practical information nowadays. Everything online seems centralized, censored and controlled whereas for years you could find a wealth of truly useful knowledge online. Long gone are great forums like this one on special topics-- now you have to go to large politicized places like Reddit where psycho activist mods ban and stalk people for the most bizarre reasons. Even dumb things like shopping for furniture have become a nightmare online, as every search engine will push you towards the same four websites, and NOT towards smaller sites that have better prices or better quality. Google is now sinister to me, with a targeted agenda. Just try to google a topic like "pedophilia" and you'll get tons of hits arguing that "pedophilia is natural". Google "domestic violence" and you'll get hit after hit about "violence against transwomen". It's as if the internet itself is one monolith with a specific agenda they want to brainwash people into swallowing.

Personally, I think those who want to push the Great Reset would DROOL at the thought of a WW3, or any additional major dramatic event like 9-11 or new pandemic like COVID. When people are afraid and uncertain, it's easier to push bullshit legislation, propaganda, and agendas without drawing negative attention from the public. Watching the news nowadays is mind-boggling... it's all about COVID panic and "orange man bad" and "check out these young kiddies on tik-tok!". Newspapers seem to be written by people who've grown up in a bubble far removed from everyday people. It's like there are so few places to get "real news" or the truth anymore.

The 1990s and early 2000s internet was very threatening to people in power. Too many people suddenly found themselves with a voice where they had none before, and they started noticing things that the powers-that-be didn't want them to notice, and they couldn't allow that, could they?

I remember when we had a specific word for what we call "shilling", today. Astroturfing. That's when the rich and powerful make fake grassroots movements to promote an idea. Fake grassroots = fake grass = astroturf. Half of the people on Reddit are literally glowies from various nations, trying to shape public opinion to be acceptable to the Elites. Ghislaine Maxwell had a Reddit account that she posted news articles on for years and years, which mysteriously stopped posting the instant she was arrested.


China retains literally 300,000 paid internet trolls to manipulate narratives to favor the Chinese Communist Party. Not to mention, they have an actual cyberwarfare military unit.



Governments, NGOs, and PR firm have literally fucking vandalized the internet for the past 20 years, making it unusable for anyone except braindead morons who don't realize how thoroughly and savagely the internet has been ratfucked in that time period.

Well, I think the issue is when we have no alternative but to purchase certain items or use services from only a small number of providers. If big corporate can ensure legislation is enacted (via campaign contributions/bribes) to only benefit themselves while harming competitors, they can do whatever they wish in terms of screwing the public over, overcharging for services, squashing any competition that might actually be able to provide more efficient services.
If you have a beef with some social justice campaign Unilever, ConAgra or GE is pushing, good luck trying to AVOID using products or services related to them.
What's worse is when these mega conglomerates become so wealthy and powerful that they themselves can raise armies and develop weapons to destroy America... which many of them already seem capable of doing. Their wealthy CEOs can become war lords and dictators in their own right.

They raise armies, all right. Armies of paid PR goons who go on forums for the sole purpose of suppressing bad press over their products.
 
FUCK the 2010s. We need to go back, goddammit!





The great thing about the internet currently is that we have folks who upload recordings from the era so that you can feel like you live in it without being there. its great. For all the lewronggeneration folks, the pre-internet era would make all past culture shit (music, movies, vidya) impossible to enjoy since it would take so long to track down stuff or legally acquire it (money and finding said items). I have entire music discographies, filmographies, and video game system libraries at my fingers tips, ready to be enjoyed at a moments notice.
 
Eat the bugs bigot
Seriously though, what can we do to escape/prevent living in the technocratic hellhole?
I'm pessimistic about an uprising of the unwashed masses: People are way too divided and distracted by too much bread and too many circuses. I don't want to be boiled alive just because the other frogs couldn't be bothered to check the temperature until it's way to late…
 
Seriously though, what can we do to escape/prevent living in the technocratic hellhole?
I'm pessimistic about an uprising of the unwashed masses: People are way too divided and distracted by too much bread and too many circuses. I don't want to be boiled alive just because the other frogs couldn't be bothered to check the temperature until it's way to late…
Jump ship and live in the wild. Humans have done it before, we could do it again.
 
The great thing about the internet currently is that we have folks who upload recordings from the era so that you can feel like you live in it without being there. its great. For all the lewronggeneration folks, the pre-internet era would make all past culture shit (music, movies, vidya) impossible to enjoy since it would take so long to track down stuff or legally acquire it (money and finding said items). I have entire music discographies, filmographies, and video game system libraries at my fingers tips, ready to be enjoyed at a moments notice.

Remember back in the day, when all the major news outlets used to whine about how inaccurate blogs were? At first, people sang their praises, coining silly terms like the "Blogosphere". Then, around the middle of the 2000s, traditional media started to lash out at them.


Attack of the Blogs​

By Daniel Lyons

Web logs are the prized platform of an online lynch mob spouting liberty but spewing lies, libel and invective. Their potent allies in this pursuit include Google and Yahoo.​

Gregory Halpern knows how to hype. Shares of his publicly held company, Circle Group Holdings, quadrupled in price early last year amid reports that its new fat substitute, Z-Trim, was being tested by Nestlé. As the stock spurted from $2 to $8.50, Halpern's 35% stake in the company he founded rose to $90 million. He put out 56 press releases last year.
Then the bloggers attacked. A supposed crusading journalist launched an online campaign long on invective and wobbly on facts, posting articles on his Web log (blog) calling Halpern "deceitful,""unethical,""incredibly stupid" and "a pathological liar" who had misled investors. The author claimed to be Nick Tracy, a London writer who started his one-man "watchdog" Web site, our-street.com, to expose corporate fraud.He put out press releases saying he had filed complaints against Circle with the Securities & Exchange Commission.
Halpern was an easy target. He is a cocky former judo champion who posts photos of himself online with the famous (including Steve Forbes, editor-in-chief of this magazine). His company is a weird amalgam of fat substitute, anthrax detectors and online mattress sales. Soon he was fielding calls from alarmed investors and assuring them he hadn't been questioned by the SEC. Eerily similar allegations began popping up in anonymous posts on Yahoo, but Yahoo refused Halpern's demand to identify the attackers. "The lawyer for Yahoo basically told me, Ha-ha-ha, you're screwed,'" Halpern says. Meanwhile, his tormentor sent letters about Halpern to Nestlé, the American Stock Exchange, the Food & Drug Administration, the Federal Trade Commission and the Brookhaven National Laboratory (involved in Circle's anthrax deal).
But it turns out that scribe Nick Tracy of London was, in fact, a former stockbroker in Oregon named Timothy Miles--and Miles himself faces SEC charges that he took part in a pump-and-dumpstock scheme in 2000. He was tried in June and awaits a verdict. No matter:Circle Group stock fell below a dollar in a year of combat with Miles and the anonymous bashers on Yahoo (and after Nestlé dropped Z-Trim). Halpern's stake is down $75 million, and he blames Miles and his acolytes; he has sued for defamation. "Some of these bloggers have just one goal, and that is to do damage. It's evil," he says.
Blogs started a few years ago as a simple way for people to keep online diaries. Suddenly they are the ultimate vehicle for brand-bashing, personal attacks, political extremism and smear campaigns. It's not easy to fight back: Often a bashing victim can't even figure out who his attacker is. No target is too mighty, or too obscure, for this new and virulent strain of oratory. Microsoft has been hammered by bloggers; so have CBS, CNN and ABC News, two research boutiques that criticized IBM's Notes software, the maker of Kryptonite bike locks, a Virginia congressman outed as a homosexual and dozens of other victims--even a right-wing blogger who dared defend a blog-mob scapegoat.
"Bloggers are more of a threat than people realize, and they are only going to get more toxic. This is the new reality," says Peter Blackshaw, chief marketing officer at Intelliseek, a Cincinnati firm that sifts through millions of blogs to provide watch-your-back service to 75 clients, including Procter & Gamble and Ford. "The potential for brand damage is really high,"says Frank Shaw, executive vice president at Microsoft's main public relations firm, Waggener Edstrom. "There is bad information out there in the blog space, and you have only hours to get ahead of it and cut it off, especially if it's juicy."
Some companies now use blogs as a weapon, unleashing swarms of critics on their rivals. "I'd say 50% to 60% of attacks are sponsored by competitors," says Bruce Fischman, a lawyer in Miami for targets of online abuse. He says he represents a high-tech firm thrashed by blogs that were secretly funded by a rival; the parties are in talks to settle out of court. One blog, Groklaw, exists primarily to bash software maker SCOGroup in its Linux patent lawsuit against IBM, producing laughably biased, pro-IBMcoverage; its origins are a mystery (see box, p. 136).
The online haters have formidable allies amplifying their tirades to a potential worldwide audience of 900 million: Google, Yahoo and Microsoft, plus a raft of other blog hosts. Google is the largest player; its Blogger.com site attracts 15 million visitors a month, more than each of the Web sites of the New York Times, USAToday and the Washington Post. An upstart, Six Apart in SanFrancisco, owns three blogging services--TypePad, LiveJournal and Movable Type--that together run a strong second to Google.
Google and other services operate with government-sanctioned impunity, protected from any liability for anything posted on the blogs they host. Thus they serve up vitriolic "content" without bearing any legal responsibility for ensuring it is fair or accurate; at times they even sell ads alongside the diatribes. "We don't get involved in adjudicating whether something is libel or slander," says Jason Goldman, a manager at Google's blogging division. In squabbles between anonymous bloggers and victims Google sides with the attackers, refusing to turn over any information unless a judge orders it to open up. "We'll do it if we believe we are required to by law," he says.
Attack blogs are but a sliver of the rapidly expanding blogosphere. A hundred thousand new blogs are created every day, more than one new blog per second, says Technorati, a firm in San Francisco that tracks the content of 20 million active blogs. Some big blogs attract millions of readers. Weblogs Inc., a Santa Monica, Calif. outfit that just got bought by America Online for a reported $25 million, publishes 90 blogs and could bring in $2 million in ad sales this year, says cofounder Jason McCabe Calacanis.
Bash-the-company Web sites emerged in the 1990s; Untied, founded in 1997 to carp at United Airlines, was one of the first. But blogs are more virulent; they spread farther and build on one another's allegations. The first blog is said to have gone up on Dec. 17, 1997 from a techie who wanted to log cool sites on the Web. By 1998 there were 23 known blogs. In 1999 the first tools to automate a site's design came out, making blogging easy for anyone. In 2003 the word "blog" made it into the Oxford English Dictionary.
The combination of massive reach and legal invulnerability makes corporate character assassination easy to carry out. Dry treatises on patent law and trade policy don't drive traffic (or ad sales) for bloggers and hosts; blood sport does. Last year consultant Sara Radicati published a negative report about IBM's Notes e-mail product. That led to organized outrage from bloggers who, it turns out, are consultants who make money installing Notes. She says her firm, the Radicati Group in Palo Alto, Calif., was deluged with obscene phone calls and e-mails, a common element when blogs go negative. "They were trying to disable my business," she says. "It was obscene, vile, abusive, offensive stuff. These are a bunch of sickos."
The anti-Radicati bloggers got an endorsement of sorts from an executive at IBM. Ed Brill, an IBMer who works on Notes marketing and publishes his own blog (edbrill.com), responded on July 23 last year to Radicati's bearish Notes report. He questioned whether she had ties to Microsoft and referred readers to two other blogs with far blunter assertions.
Within days bloggers had posted "investigative" articles "exposing" her as corrupt and unethical, claiming she was a "shill"who took bribes from Microsoft.One blogger said she was doing something shady by operating a group that helps small companies find venture funding. Bloggers linked to one another's sites and posted on Brill's blog and elsewhere, creating an echo chamber in which, through repetition, the scandal began to seem genuine. Six days after the attacks began, a Notes consultant in the U.K. gloated on Brill's blog:"The Radicati Group?Their analysis is now meaningless . Their name has been blackened, their reputation in tatters."
Radicati fought back by responding on her own Web site, but the smear job hovers online, appearing when you Google her name or start with Brill's mostly diplomatic site and then work your way through its links. One step away is IBM itself, which has a Notes site that once linked into Brill's. That link has since been taken down. Radicati says IBMignored her pleas to stop Brill from linking to the hate sites. IBM says it has nothing to do with Brill's blog.
A week after that flap IBMer Brill fired up the swarm again, issuing a call to arms against research firm Meta Group for similar sins. "Y'all did such a good job on the last report " his blog entry began. Sure enough, soon Meta was being "investigated" by bloggers and "exposed" as Radicati was. Gartner, which now owns Meta, declined to comment.
No wonder companies now live in fear of blogs. "A blogger can go out and make any statement about anybody, and you can't control it. That's a difficult thing,"says Steven Down, general manager of bike lock maker Kryptonite, owned by Ingersoll-Rand and based in Canton,Mass.
Last year bloggers posted videos showing how to break open a Kryptonite lock using a ballpoint pen.That much was true. But they also spread bogus information--that all Kryptonite models could be cracked with a pen; that it is the only brand with this vulnerability; and that Kryptonite knew about the problem and covered it up.None of these claims is true, but a year later Kryptonite still struggles to set the record straight, while spending millions to replace locks.
Even mighty Microsoft, for all its billions, dares not defy the blogosphere. In April gay bloggers attacked Microsoft over its failure to support a gay-rights bill in Washington State (the company is based near Seattle). "Dear Microsoft, You messed with the wrong faggots,"wrote John Aravosis, publisher of AmericaBlog, which threatened to oppose Microsoft's plans for a big campus expansion unless the company caved in. Microsoft reversed itself two weeks later, saying it supports gay-rights legislation after all. It says pressure from its own employees, not from bloggers, caused the change of heart.
Microsoft's p.r. people have added blog-monitoring to their list of duties. The company also fields its own blog posse. Some 2,000 Microsofties publish individual blogs, adding a Microsoft voice to the town square. The company also treats some bloggers like bona fide journalists, giving Gizmodo.com and Engadget.com interviews with BillGates.
But if blogging is journalism, then some of its practitioners seem to have learned the trade from Jayson Blair. Many repeat things without bothering to check on whether they are true, a penchant political operatives have been quick to exploit. "Campaigns understand that there are some stories that regular reporters won't print. So they'll give those stories to the blogs," says Christian Grantham, a Democratic consultant in Washington who also blogs. He cites the phony John Kerry/secret girlfriend story spread by bloggers in the 2004 primaries. The story was bogus, but no blogger got fired for printing the lie. "It's not like journalism, where your reputation is ruined if you get something wrong. In the blogosphere people just move on. It's scurrilous," Grantham says.
And though they have First Amendment protection and posture as patriotic muckrakers in the solemn pursuit of truth, the blog mob isn't democratic at all. They are inclined to crush dissent with the "delete" key. When consultant Nick Wreden criticized credit card banking giant MBNA on his blog, a reader responded in support of MBNA. Wreden zapped the comment. "I just thought: This has to be a plant,'" he says.
"It almost takes on the feeling of a crusade," says Jeffrey Schneider, a vice president at Walt Disney Co.'s ABCnetwork. "They put out a call to arms:We're going to take these guys down, and we won't stop blogging until someone loses their head.'" ABC News correspondent Linda Douglass came under attack from rampaging bloggers last March in covering the Terri Schiavo right-to-die case. She had cited a controversial memo written by a Republican staffer. Right-wing bloggers using such pen names as Right Pundit and Mr. Right (the latter hosted by Google) claimed she had fallen for a fake; the memo was real.
In that case the bloggers slinked away. In the case of a CNN executive they didn't stop until they had claimed a casualty. Eason Jordan, chief news executive at CNN, noted at an off-the-record conference in January that journalists had been killed by U.S. troops. He used a touchy word:"targeted." A blogger present, Rony Abovitz, ignored the off-the-record ground rule and posted an account. Other bloggers soon piled on. One created a site solely devoted to the topic, easongate.com.
Jordan instantly and repeatedly denied the assertions, but the blog hordes kept wailing away. Jordan resigned in February, engulfed by a concocted controversy. Blogger Michelle Malkin crowed online, praising nine other bloggers and "legions of smaller" ones in the hunt. She wrote that the mainstream media "calls it a lynch mob. I call it a truth squad" and included a warning:"Cue the Carpenters music: We've OnlyJust Begun.'"
Even some bloggers see the harm they can pose. "Some people in the blogosphere are too smug about free speech. They'll say it's okay if people get slandered or if people make up fake stuff because in the end the truth wins out," says John Hinderaker, a lawyer in Minneapolis, Minn. who helps run a right-wing blog, Power Line, which hounded CNN's Jordan and CBS anchor Dan Rather. "But I don't think that excuses it."
When Hinderaker published an item saying left-wing bloggers should stop assaulting a White House reporter alleged to have worked as a gay prostitute, his blog brethren went on the assault, publishing his phone number at work and prompting a deluge of harassing phone calls and e-mails. "My secretary was crying" because callers kept swearing at her, he says. "Then we started getting calls at the house. My wife wanted to hire a bodyguard."
Google and other carriers shut down purveyors of child porn, spam and viruses, and they help police track down offenders.So why don't they delete material that defames individuals? Why don't they help victims identify their attackers? Because they are protected by the Communications Decency Act of 1996, which frees a neutral carrier of Internet content from any liability for anything said online.
"Blogging is still in its infancy. Imposing regulations would create a chilling effect," says Annalee Newitz, until recently a policy analyst at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a nonprofit that defends anonymous attackers. The anonymous assault has a long tradition in American political discourse, recognized by a U.S. Supreme Court ruling in McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission in 1995 and in a recent decision by the Delaware Supreme Court refusing to force an Internet service provider to disclose who called a small-town politician inept.
But even the Constitution doesn't give a citizen the right to unjustly call his neighbor a child molester. Google and the like argue they bear no more responsibility for content than a phone company does for slander over its wires. But Google's blog business looks less like a phone company and more like a mix of reality TV and an online magazine. Bloggers provide the fare, and Google maintains it for them free of charge, sometimes selling ads.
Google says ad revenue isn't the point. The real aim is "to let users embrace the Web as a medium of self-expression," a spokesman says. Google lets them run wild. Yet Google edits and censors blog content all the time--to protect its own interests. The company, whose portentous corporate ethos includes the mantra "Don't be evil," snuffs out blogs that engage in "phishing" (tricking people into revealing confidential information) and "spam blogs" that skew Google's search results. Bloggers who sign up for its ad program (Google passes along 79% of sales, on average) must follow firm Google guidelines that limit references to drugs, alcohol, tobacco, gambling and even "excessive profanity."
Once blogger attacks begin, victims can resort to libel and defamation lawsuits, but "filing a libel lawsuit, the way you would against a newspaper, is like using 18th-century battlefield tactics to counter guerrilla warfare," says David Potts, a Toronto lawyer who is writing a book on cyberlibel. "You'll accomplish nothing and just get more ridicule." He tells clients to find a third party to bash the bloggers.
Gregory Halpern at Circle Group, in Mundelein, Ill., used this approach against his nemesis, Nick Tracy, a.k.a. Timothy Miles. After the first attack Halpern contacted the blogger's lawyer but got nowhere. He demanded a correction, only to get mocked:Miles posted on his blog an audio file of a perturbed message Halpern had left on his voice mail.
Halpern had better luck, however, when he allied with Gayle Essary, who runs the FinancialWire online news service and had tangled with Miles, too. Halpern dug up details on Miles (his photo and Oregon driver's license; his links to a litany of questionable companies; his claim to be an ordained minister; his Web site that describes a mysterious crystal that contains a message from God) and fed them to Essary. Essary did 15 articles on Miles without citing Halpern as a source, and when Halpern heard from people asking about Miles' allegations against Circle Group, he referred them to FinancialWire, saying it had "exposed this guy a long time ago."
Halpern also used a new law, the Digital MillenniumCopyright Act, which requires hosts to take down copyrighted material used without permission. He confronted Miles' service provider and threatened to sue for copyright infringement and libel; the ISP pulled the plug. But our-street.com emerged days later at a second service. In three months Halpern pursued Miles through nine ISPs, finally giving up and filing a libel suit in state circuit court in Cook County, Ill. in June 2004. He accuses the blogger of orchestrating a short-seller scheme to send Circle stock plunging. Miles insists he never sold short or acted on behalf of short-sellers.
Miles, who says he misrepresented himself as Nick Tracy because "I wanted to be discreet," has abandoned our-street.com and moved from Oregon to Slovenia. He claims he is outside the Illinois court's jurisdiction. The judge disagrees. Miles says he plans to appeal. He has set up a new site, scamspotting.com, and insists he is a bona fide investigative journalist: "I tell the truth, and it's never pretty." This drives Halpern nuts:"It's amazing that an anonymous guy can put out a report full of lies and then be so self-righteous."
After anonymous attacks spread to Yahoo, Halpern moved in court to force Yahoo to reveal who was behind the sniping. In September a state judge in Illinois ordered Yahoo to reveal the names. A lawyer for the secret posters is trying to settle without turning over their names, Halpern says. Yahoo declines to comment on the case, but Halpern argues that Yahoo and other carriers should step up: "They make money selling ads on these message boards, and the controversial material generates the most traffic. So they're benefiting from this garbage. I think they should take responsibility for it."
Halpern has had less luck getting anyone inCongress to listen to his plaint. He says that may change if a few politicians get a taste of what he has gone through. "Wait until the next election rolls around and these bloggers start smearing people who are up for reelection,"Halpern says. "Maybe then things will start to happen."

I had to use the Wayback Machine to get to this article. Why do you think a bunch of cunts tried attacking Brewster Kahle? They realize that archive sites make it impossible to memoryhole their corrupt bullshit.


Over the past couple decades, traditional media has intentionally worked overtime to discredit independent journalism. To this day, people still whine about the credibility and factuality - or lack thereof - of blog articles. If you link a blog article to support an argument, the reflexive reaction is "that's somebody's personal blog", as if it were illegitimate by default. That, in itself, is a deliberate manipulation of public opinion that took years of divisive propaganda to pull off. People forget the meaning of words, when they're turned into monosyllabic grunts. Blog is short for what used to be Web Log, as in a journal, as in fucking journalism. People willing to say things about society without taking a paycheck for it are the only real threat to the system's corrupt power structure. Also, they undercut traditional media's profits. If someone's reading blogs and forums for their news, I can tell you what they're not doing, and that's paying for a New York Times subscription.

That's another thing. The shift from an ad-based to a subscription-based online news model in the past few years has fragmented and siloed populations of online news readers. It used to be the case that you could compare dozens of different articles from different outlets and see if the truth lay somewhere in the middle, or check to see how much they all harmonize on an issue to the point of copycatting each other. It's harder to notice that all outlets are pushing the same agenda when you only have unlimited access to one of them.

Again, the Lying Press is a real phenomenon. Just look at all the news outlets declaring the Great Reset a baseless conspiracy theory while Trudeau is literally namedropping the Great Reset, all in the same goddamn article.


The great reset theory is nonsense, and will probably become a prime target for the many new research centres and initiatives studying “disinformation” that have mushroomed on university campuses since 2016. But although we may scorn the ideas of anti-lockdown protesters, we ignore the unequal reality of the pandemic at our peril. Many of the world’s tech companies and CEOs have done well from this crisis. Indeed, in the same week that many Americans lost their jobs, Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, added $13bn to his fortune in just a day. With surreal realities like these, where prominent members of the 1% really do appear to have gained from the pandemic, how much of a leap is it to persuade someone that the crisis has been orchestrated deliberately so that elites can amass power?


A baseless conspiracy theory about the coronavirus has found new life as cases surge once again.

On Monday morning, the phrase “The Great Reset” trended with nearly 80,000 tweets, with most of the posts coming from familiar far-right internet personalities. The conspiracy alleges that a cabal of elites has long planned for the pandemic so that they could use it to impose their global economic control on the masses. In some versions of the unfounded rumor, it is only President Trump who is thwarting this plan and keeping the scheme at bay.

The narrative first took root in late May, when Prince Charles and Klaus Schwab, the executive chairman of the World Economic Forum, announced plans to convene world leaders and discuss climate change and how to rebuild an economy damaged by the pandemic. The meeting was branded as a “Great Reset,” and the false rumors about the tight-knit group of elites manipulating the global economy took off.

Then, over the weekend and into Monday morning, a video of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada speaking from a United Nations meeting in September gained millions of views online. In the video, Mr. Trudeau referred to a “great reset” and also happened to utter the words “build back better,” which conspiracists saw as a tie-in to President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. — who had used the phrase as a campaign slogan.


The word for this is gaslighting, by the way. You are being gaslighted.

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This is a form of psychological torture. As in, any good CIA or FSB torturer would have something very similar to this in their manuals. It is literally a torture technique. It is extremely frustrating and potentially even traumatizing to be told that your senses are wrong, that you aren't experiencing what you think you're experiencing, and so on, and so forth.

 
Jump ship and live in the wild. Humans have done it before, we could do it again.
It's either that, suicide or becoming an unhinged doomsayer, I guess.
Problem is, it's quite the drop jumping from the Internet Age back to pre-modern living (if you want to be truly independent). Too big a drop for most if they have to do it by themselves. With my current set of skills I probably wouldn't last long as the local Bigfoot sighting.
What would be the best way to make that transition as smooth and normie friendly (if you want to drag others through the literal mud with you) as possible? I thought of starting prepping and working my way "back" 🤔
 
FUCK the 2010s. We need to go back, goddammit!








The 1990s and early 2000s internet was very threatening to people in power. Too many people suddenly found themselves with a voice where they had none before, and they started noticing things that the powers-that-be didn't want them to notice, and they couldn't allow that, could they?

I remember when we had a specific word for what we call "shilling", today. Astroturfing. That's when the rich and powerful make fake grassroots movements to promote an idea. Fake grassroots = fake grass = astroturf. Half of the people on Reddit are literally glowies from various nations, trying to shape public opinion to be acceptable to the Elites. Ghislaine Maxwell had a Reddit account that she posted news articles on for years and years, which mysteriously stopped posting the instant she was arrested.


China retains literally 300,000 paid internet trolls to manipulate narratives to favor the Chinese Communist Party. Not to mention, they have an actual cyberwarfare military unit.



Governments, NGOs, and PR firm have literally fucking vandalized the internet for the past 20 years, making it unusable for anyone except braindead morons who don't realize how thoroughly and savagely the internet has been ratfucked in that time period.



They raise armies, all right. Armies of paid PR goons who go on forums for the sole purpose of suppressing bad press over their products.
Agree with everything you mention.

The paid internet trolling and orchestration is beyond belief. I notice how many bizarro pro-tranny posts on forums like twitter get THOUSANDS of likes within minutes. I'm assuming a great deal of regular people see that phenomenon and automatically assume that the majority of the public agrees with these views.

When you dig further into the transhumanism/troon ideology and overlapping movements, there is a definite push to legalize pedophilia, to legalize child grooming online and in real life, to legally eradicate parental rights, to obliterate physical boundaries to people's bodies, to obliterate one's right to deny certain medical procedures "for the good of the public". I can hardly believe the majority of twitter users believe in this ideology to begin with, but they get exposed to this propaganda non-stop. People at large are unaware of AI bots and social media manipulation by the social media companies themselves, and the regular media will NEVER cover this phenomenon. The ability for tech and other vested interests to push dangerous propaganda at breakneck speed is staggering.

I was recently looking into concepts like blockchain as someone who doesn't have a background in technology. The potential pitfalls of creating programs based on collected online data seem glaringly obvious to me-- yet those who claim blockchain is wonderful seem blind to it, or seem unwilling to admit how it will impact humanity in a negative way.

Check this insanity out: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/12/doc-bot-ai-driven-primary-healthcare
 
It's either that, suicide or becoming an unhinged doomsayer, I guess.
Problem is, it's quite the drop jumping from the Internet Age back to pre-modern living (if you want to be truly independent). Too big a drop for most if they have to do it by themselves. With my current set of skills I probably wouldn't last long as the local Bigfoot sighting.
What would be the best way to make that transition as smooth and normie friendly (if you want to drag others through the literal mud with you) as possible? I thought of starting prepping and working my way "back" 🤔
Start prepping, learn everything you can about land survival while you can. How to start controlled fires, how to make clean drinking water in a pinch, what foods are edible in the environment, basically learn what you can about nature around you and how to survive it. Real life scary stories about nature can give you ideas of dangers to be aware of, and what could be beneficial to you. Figure out where you're most likely to get food. Learn from peoples mistakes in nature
 
Start prepping, learn everything you can about land survival while you can. How to start controlled fires, how to make clean drinking water in a pinch, what foods are edible in the environment, basically learn what you can about nature around you and how to survive it. Real life scary stories about nature can give you ideas of dangers to be aware of, and what could be beneficial to you. Figure out where you're most likely to get food. Learn from peoples mistakes in nature
Thats a stretch lets be honest if things got near that point they would just declare victory over the virus and let society re-open.
 
Thats a stretch lets be honest if things got near that point they would just declare victory over the virus and let society re-open.
It's not just about the virus and lockdowns - it's about getting away from getting pressed into a mold designed by people who think they know better than you. In the past you had the option to associate with people who are/think like you or get away from those you're opposed to. With the rest there was more or less a "live and let live" attitude, just like Otterly and teriyakiburns said.
Globalism made the world smaller - so small that you can start to feel the walls closing in. Living in Europe I can still remember times, where you could tell where you are - not only by the language, but by the "feel". Today everything is the same.
 
It's not just about the virus and lockdowns - it's about getting away from getting pressed into a mold designed by people who think they know better than you. In the past you had the option to associate with people who are/think like you or get away from those you're opposed to. With the rest there was more or less a "live and let live" attitude, just like Otterly and teriyakiburns said.
Globalism made the world smaller - so small that you can start to feel the walls closing in. Living in Europe I can still remember times, where you could tell where you are - not only by the language, but by the "feel". Today everything is the same.
Dude I get what you are selling but the deal is already made it was most likely penned and inked many years ago. Shit is gonna be a lot different moving forward. I understand people are afraid of change but we are placed in a headlock nothing you can do outside of a violent takeover is gonna make a difference. Personally I do think we are moving ahead too quickly for the population to adjust to it. The fact everyone has cameras on them and are connected to the internet 24/7 helped expedite this change. Learn to adapt or get left behind.
 
Dude I get what you are selling but the deal is already made it was most likely penned and inked many years ago. Shit is gonna be a lot different moving forward. I understand people are afraid of change but we are placed in a headlock nothing you can do outside of a violent takeover is gonna make a difference. Personally I do think we are moving ahead too quickly for the population to adjust to it. The fact everyone has cameras on them and are connected to the internet 24/7 helped expedite this change. Learn to adapt or get left behind.
That's why I'm talking about stepping to the side. I know, in the great scheme of things, dropping out doesn't change anything. It's more about the sanity of the individual. Like I said, I believe in an uprising when I see it - I'd love it to happen, but I'm not holding my breath.
If the NWO is clever, they allow "savage reservations" like in Brave New World for the discontent as some kind of societal pressure valve. At least until the tinfoil hats stop working
 
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